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Since i am relatively new to ppcs, i read almost all the forums to upgrade my BA to wm5.0
the first try, it was so slow, i tried the overclock software, pocket hack master and more, it still had ten second pauses when turning on or waking up. plus the phone was lagging, (slow)
I dont know but i stumbled on this by mistake,
Warning: Backup all data on your device to your computer..
(make a backup compy of all your data on computer)
1) all i did was the following press: (camers + record+ reset "hold untill options appears") then wait until some options appear on the screen, (three options with Yes/No options) I did the same as before, leave the first as No, the last two as Yes, then press the e (internet key), it will reset itself, this takes about 5 secs, this wipe my phone clean, every installed program was gone, brand new....
point1-> do not copy old backup folders to ur device, make only one new directory in my documents (i called mine Files) and place all your files and sub-folders in there.
Note: you will still have the folders, business, personal and my pictures
plus couple others
point2-.just like a PC using MS software, the OS looks for all directories before making next steps.. for example: if you open my documents on the Pc and my documents have a lot of directories/folders and files, the OS will locate all the folders and files before actually shoing a picture in my documents.
The ppc does the same, the less folders you make the better, the faster it runs, the amount of files doesnt matter, the OS keeps special tags on folders and these takes time to read, (NO, the OS doesnt check for sud-folders unless the folder it is contained in is beeing opened)
having less folders increases the speed on the device.
2) then i installed the camera patch, then the album patch to go with it
3) i then installed the keboard patch, you need this..
4) i did not install the fix buttons patch (This is what i think slows down the BA) forgive me if i am wrong, but i leave things as is.
5) i placed all the missing apps in programs, so i can use them just as wn2003
6) i installed all my programs
skyforce 1
spb pocket plus
quickverse bible
adobe reader
photo viewer
7) i then set up my internet connections for att
8) i turn on button lock
9) i turned off all sounds
then i reset...
thats all i did, now my ppc is fast, i am not even using pocket hack master, i didnt even install it (the truth is that i forgot, i didnt see the 10 sec pauses anymore, i power off the device for two hours, power on, no pauses.
a) phone perfect
b) camera perfect
c) backlights perfect
d) keyboard perfect
e) games run fast without a glitch
I dont know what happened, i cant explain it, maybe this is just by luck or by chance, but evrything works well and now for two days works better and faster than ever before.
try, maybe this works for you.
thanks to all the programmers that made this possible, i couldnt have gotten this far without you guys.
let me know what happened or what you think
Hey Mutty...I'm game...will give your method a try and report...you need to make a small edit... "then press the e (internet key), it will reset itself, this takes about 5 secs..." Pressing the e will not do anything, you have to actually press the envolope key.
I have a question do we have to move all the default folders (eg Personal, My Music..etc) in My Documents into one folder or just leave the default folders as is and create a new folder (eg my files) and add all future folders inside this one?
3) i then installed the keboard patch, you need this..
WHAT KEYBOARD PATCH?
Localized Keyboard cabs for different HW-Keyboard Layout...
Here on FTP...
I think it's probably the "Enable KITL = No" option that makes the difference. KITL (Kernel Independent Transport Layer) is a diagnostic mode for developers to debug their drivers and apps, so it's very likely that leaving this enabled will slow things down.
-no1
is it as fast as WM2003se?
i dont know what Kitl is, but one thing i know is that the device worked bettr than before, no pauses, even till now.. I just have to get used to having "ok" and the "windows" key set as soft keys. its kinda good though, i use them as default, for notifications and contacts. pretty cool.
You leave all default folders as is, only create one folder to store all your other files and folders.
where do you find the option to disable KITL
maybe that will ven make my device runs even much faster.
And yes its faster than 2003se... dont take my word for it though..
Try it yourselves, you will see.. even the phone works better.
1) no ten secs pauses on wakup
2) phone works better and responds better
3) I played skyforce without a glitch many times and it is a graphics driven fast pace game.
i have a keyboard patch, i dont remember where i get it from, but i think its used to turn on the backlight on the keyboard, i am not sure, but guess i just installed it
Guys just wanna ask did anyone has problem when recieving sms, backlight didn't on? just vibrate and ring (i set to vibrate and ring) but no light? anyone has the same experience?
It is suposed to be that way
oops!... :lol:
MUTTY said:
where do you find the option to disable KITL
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The KITL option is the first of the three options in the boot menu list - the one you said you set to "No".
well im giving yr method a go too, do you have the wifi problem?
nope, no wifi issue
Holy sh!"&%§! :shock: Do you mean that if WiFi's on when you turn off the unit (not soft reset, just suspend with the power button) WiFi will still be active when you turn the unit back on again?
wifi caused me a lot of problems. I had it on, and left it on accidentally. it went into sleep or suspend mode of course, but i thought wifi would go off as usual so i didnt check it. Ohh damn, it drained my battery dead. The worst part is that when the battery went dead, i couldnt make or recieve calls for a few minutes, then the whole thing just went dead. on reserve battery. i had to wait till i got home to recharge. half a day of my life was wasted. i depend on my phone very much.
OK, but have you tested if wifi will still be on if you turn suspend with wifi on and then powers on the PPC again? That's what I'm looking for.
holy moly, it only works some times. wifi keeps on only sometimes whaen my devise is suspended. say about 40% of the time. I DONT LIKE THIS....
That's 40 % more than most people get. It's the main problem right now, that BlueTooth and WiFi is turned off when the unit is suspended.
Dears,
I faced the white screen the first time last Thu. I migrated my device (Jasjam) to Black Pro 2.0 on Wed. and started to get the white screen on Thu.
I was going arround it by few turn-of turn-on untill today morning when I noticed that the screen shifted down by 1mm. In fact more precisly, rotated down 1mm. Starting with the splash screens, the Windows booting screen and the Windows later. Everything is rotated down by the 1mm meaning what is disapearing from bottom is showing on top!
I got to the device through the mtty and ran task 2a, everything was okay. Then I ran task 28 and task 8. The deveice booted with the sae shifting problem. I installed the latest LVSW 05Apr07, the same problem still although the Windows is working fine. Switching the device off will not switch the screen off immediatly, the screen goes in fade-away type of action for about 2 minutes until it totally powers off.
Any idea? Does that mean I am loosing the mobile? Please help.
Appreciating all help.
Regards.
attot1239 said:
Dears,
I faced the white screen the first time last Thu. I migrated my device (Jasjam) to Black Pro 2.0 on Wed. and started to get the white screen on Thu.
I was going arround it by few turn-of turn-on untill today morning when I noticed that the screen shifted down by 1mm. In fact more precisly, rotated down 1mm. Starting with the splash screens, the Windows booting screen and the Windows later. Everything is rotated down by the 1mm meaning what is disapearing from bottom is showing on top!
I got to the device through the mtty and ran task 2a, everything was okay. Then I ran task 28 and task 8. The deveice booted with the sae shifting problem. I installed the latest LVSW 05Apr07, the same problem still although the Windows is working fine. Switching the device off will not switch the screen off immediatly, the screen goes in fade-away type of action for about 2 minutes until it totally powers off.
Any idea? Does that mean I am loosing the mobile? Please help.
Appreciating all help.
Regards.
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Remove the battery for 5 minutes and re-insert it back..see if it will fix it or not.
attot1239 said:
Dears,
I faced the white screen the first time last Thu. I migrated my device (Jasjam) to Black Pro 2.0 on Wed. and started to get the white screen on Thu.
I was going arround it by few turn-of turn-on untill today morning when I noticed that the screen shifted down by 1mm. In fact more precisly, rotated down 1mm. Starting with the splash screens, the Windows booting screen and the Windows later. Everything is rotated down by the 1mm meaning what is disapearing from bottom is showing on top!
I got to the device through the mtty and ran task 2a, everything was okay. Then I ran task 28 and task 8. The deveice booted with the sae shifting problem. I installed the latest LVSW 05Apr07, the same problem still although the Windows is working fine. Switching the device off will not switch the screen off immediatly, the screen goes in fade-away type of action for about 2 minutes until it totally powers off.
Any idea? Does that mean I am loosing the mobile? Please help.
Appreciating all help.
Regards.
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what bootloader version are you running?
Many thanks trashcan for your quick response. I have removed the battery for 5 minutes, the screen was still showing that last image. I keept the battery out for 15 minutes untill the screen was totally off. Reruting the battery resolved the ****ing issue, thanks again.
Also thanks to walshieau, the device has IPL-1.01 and SPL-1.40.Olipro.
Regards.
Regards.
The bad part of the news is that the white screen is still comming!!!
Any clue?
Regards.
I thought of sharing this with you
I have just done the follwoing:
> Updated (again) the device with SSPL-1.40
> Re-flashed the device Force through SSPL the new OS (LVSW)
The phone looks better, however I got the white screen two times in about five minutes.
Wat else I should do? Please share your experience.
Regards.
attot1239 said:
I have just done the follwoing:
> Updated (again) the device with SSPL-1.40
> Re-flashed the device Force through SSPL the new OS (LVSW)
The phone looks better, however I got the white screen two times in about five minutes.
Wat else I should do? Please share your experience.
Regards.
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Read?
1) Ensure that you have 1.40.Oli by checking the bootloader screen.
2) Run the upgrade, but, select AUTO DETECT! DO NOT CLICK FORCE SSPL!
3) White screen gone
LegolasTheElf said:
Read?
1) Ensure that you have 1.40.Oli by checking the bootloader screen.
2) Run the upgrade, but, select AUTO DETECT! DO NOT CLICK FORCE SSPL!
3) White screen gone
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not quite, the ROM image affects some devices, I'll redo Black 2.0 like I redid LVSW if this keeps happening.
It is getting worse now ... I do not know what is happening
Good morning,
Thanks LegoLasTheElf and Olipro for you input, I started to patch the device again and although everything was normal, the update program sayed the connecting was lost and took me to a recovery screens which just went into a loop (repeating the same steps with no hope).
The device is on the bootloader (tri-color) screen. I tried getting into it using the mtty and set 14 0 (as I found it on on of the posts) however it did not help.
Could someone tell me please to to get the device to boot normal again.
Regards.
attot1239 said:
Good morning,
Thanks LegoLasTheElf and Olipro for you input, I started to patch the device again and although everything was normal, the update program sayed the connecting was lost and took me to a recovery screens which just went into a loop (repeating the same steps with no hope).
The device is on the bootloader (tri-color) screen. I tried getting into it using the mtty and set 14 0 (as I found it on on of the posts) however it did not help.
Could someone tell me please to to get the device to boot normal again.
Regards.
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yeah... flash my patched LVSW with CustomRUU
Olipro said:
yeah... flash my patched LVSW with CustomRUU
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Yeah, that works!! That is how I solved my whitescreen.
thx Olipro!!
Many thanks Olipro for your continued help.
I have gove through your topic on the white screen and I posted you a reply there. The megaupload site is blocked in my area, if possible please mirror it on another site, i.e. 4shared.com
Regards.
I have exactly the same White Screen symptoms and more recently, the 1 mm screen shift problem too. I removed my battery for 15 mins and the screen shift temporarily went away but on the next reset, it is back :-(
I have SPL-1.40 Olipro but am unable to download the LVSW to resolve White Screen as Megaupload never works in my area. Can someone post that ROM to Rapidshare please.
Thanks a ton!
Olipro said:
yeah... flash my patched LVSW with CustomRUU
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Where can I get the CustomRUU? The device is now on the BL screen and the tools are being able to communicate with it.
Regards.
Alright, I have the same problem here. Now before anybody comes on here and tell me to read this and that, I've tried everything.
From going back to 1.01MFG, mtty the OS, use 1.40, use customRUU, leaving the battery out for 5mins, 15mins, hours, over night. Even tried going back to the original ROM and still nothing, the same damn white screen. As far as I am concerned, the intervals are actually getting worse and it comes on more often.
Anybody has any other ideas beside the ones that are posted everywhere. Trust me I've been trying to fix this for over a week now and I have read everything on here.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks guys
YES This was my first solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298520
bcrx7 said:
Alright, I have the same problem here. Now before anybody comes on here and tell me to read this and that, I've tried everything.
From going back to 1.01MFG, mtty the OS, use 1.40, use customRUU, leaving the battery out for 5mins, 15mins, hours, over night. Even tried going back to the original ROM and still nothing, the same damn white screen. As far as I am concerned, the intervals are actually getting worse and it comes on more often.
Anybody has any other ideas beside the ones that are posted everywhere. Trust me I've been trying to fix this for over a week now and I have read everything on here.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks guys
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298520
@BCRX7- After the WHITNESS from LVSW and then black1.2 I used this QTEK rom. It got rid of the white screen. Then I used Olipro's modified ROM. I am now running BLACK2.0 with no problems. Props OLIPRO and JasJammin!!!
i solved my white screen in a different and strange way, but easy
you may not believe it, but i did it, i solved the problem of my white screen in a very simple way.
i put my hermes in the fridge for 20 mins at 2C and i keep it on and put it over night.
(no charging, no sync, .... nothing)
this is the way how i solve it.
try it at your home, and tell me what happened to it.
thanks for all.
Hardware or software issue?
Hi,
Did anyone figured if white screen is hardware or software related issue? I wonder if there is anybody that doesn't got any whitescreen since they upgraded to WM6. I observed that the number and the severity of the white screens was different depending of the cooked ROM used (I have Olipro 2.10 SPL, Radio 1.50). Unfortunately I didn't count the white screen number for each version in order to choose the right one
I want to be sure I have tried all software methods before I will send my Hermes to the mobile operator for a replacement (if it is a hardware issue). Thanks in advance for any suggestion!
Hi all.. I had the same prob and it developed into this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303872
So its a HW problem... You can get it back to normal by hitting(yeah not the nicest thing to do with a toy that has high price tag) the phone when its turned off completely -if its hibernating it doesnt work. If you have warranty time left -get it fixed. If not -you can try opening the hermie and doing whats told on 8th page in thread I mentioned. I got mine fixed by changing the front keyboard circuit board..
My Dash started acting up the other day and I am hoping someone here can help.
It is responding very slowly to most key presses, sometimes taking 5-10 minutes to, say, open a folder or bring up a settings screen. Sometimes they don't come up at all and it appears frozen, requiring a "yank the battery" reset procedure.
ActiveSync on both home and work PC's detects the device but cannot connect to it.
On bootup, the Windows Mobile splash will be displayed much longer than it used to (3 - 4 minutes) before I finally get a desktop.
The time on the main (top) sliding panel is often the last to (slowly) appear on the display when "waking up".
Email has stopped working in and out. I can receive calls, and Bluetooth is working, but often the ringer will continue for 5 -10 seconds after I answer, and transferring calls to my headset takes about 5 - 10 seconds after that.
Sometimes, settings changes won't "take" and will reset themselves back to their previous values.
Hard resets haven't helped, and nothing seems changed after them, which is odd.
The only thing I have changed recently is I installed the ODSHOW weather thing a few weeks ago (which seriously fubar'd my phone and it was all I could do to get the "normal" top panel back) as far as I know it's uninstalled now.
And all of this started happening after the battery had run completely down and the phone shut itself off. I have already tried another battery and the behavior hasn't changed.
I would love to flash it as I think the problem is the O/S is hosed, but is that possible without being able to connect to a PC through ActiveSync? Say, by copying the ROM package to the SD card and running it from there?
I am running RickyWatts/Kavana's WM 6.1 ROM, btw.
Many thanks if you have any suggestions.
-GoJ
Ghost of Jaco said:
My Dash started acting up the other day and I am hoping someone here can help.
It is responding very slowly to most key presses, sometimes taking 5-10 minutes to, say, open a folder or bring up a settings screen. Sometimes they don't come up at all and it appears frozen, requiring a "yank the battery" reset procedure.
ActiveSync on both home and work PC's detects the device but cannot connect to it.
On bootup, the Windows Mobile splash will be displayed much longer than it used to (3 - 4 minutes) before I finally get a desktop.
The time on the main (top) sliding panel is often the last to (slowly) appear on the display when "waking up".
Email has stopped working in and out. I can receive calls, and Bluetooth is working, but often the ringer will continue for 5 -10 seconds after I answer, and transferring calls to my headset takes about 5 - 10 seconds after that.
Sometimes, settings changes won't "take" and will reset themselves back to their previous values.
Hard resets haven't helped, and nothing seems changed after them, which is odd.
The only thing I have changed recently is I installed the ODSHOW weather thing a few weeks ago (which seriously fubar'd my phone and it was all I could do to get the "normal" top panel back) as far as I know it's uninstalled now.
And all of this started happening after the battery had run completely down and the phone shut itself off. I have already tried another battery and the behavior hasn't changed.
I would love to flash it as I think the problem is the O/S is hosed, but is that possible without being able to connect to a PC through ActiveSync? Say, by copying the ROM package to the SD card and running it from there?
I am running RickyWatts/Kavana's WM 6.1 ROM, btw.
Many thanks if you have any suggestions.
-GoJ
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Here's what you do.Turn the phone off, holding the camera button down for about 10 seconds , plug the usb cable that should give you the bootloader screen,you can get the official tmo 6.0 on there, it has to be an official rom. Once you got the phone with the 6.0 running, set up active sync and then flash which ever 6.1 rom you want. Good luck.
Here's the link for the official 6.0 rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381726&highlight=official+roms
Her's the 6.1 rom link. I recomend V24 w/opera http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3315417&postcount=1
Thanks rolo. Let me make sure I have this:
1) Turn off the phone while holding down the camera button for about ten seconds.
2)Release the camera button and plug in the USB cable. Bootloader screen will appear.
3) From the bootloader screen I can put the TMO ROM on.
Is that correct?
Thanks again!
Ghost of Jaco said:
Thanks rolo. Let me make sure I have this:
1) Turn off the phone while holding down the camera button for about ten seconds.
2)Release the camera button and plug in the USB cable. Bootloader screen will appear.
3) From the bootloader screen I can put the TMO ROM on.
Is that correct?
Thanks again!
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No!
1. Turn off phone
2. after phone's off, press and hold the camera button.
3. after holding it for about 10 seconds, plug the usb like you're gonna use active sync.
4.That will give you the bootloader screen, and you can now install official 6.0.
5. after you got 6.0 set. set up active sync.
6. I would wait about 10 or 15 minutes, then flash 6.1
roloracer said:
No!
1. Turn off phone
2. after phone's off, press and hold the camera button.
3. after holding it for about 10 seconds, plug the usb like you're gonna use active sync.
4.That will give you the bootloader screen, and you can now install official 6.0.
5. after you got 6.0 set. set up active sync.
6. I would wait about 10 or 15 minutes, then flash 6.1
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Ah! Ok, now I have it in bootloader mode. Thanks.
I d/l'd the Official TMO_1.22.531.6 file and unpacked it, but the 40 MB RAR file contains only a 60 KB(?) file named RUU_signed.nbh
What do I do with that?
Ghost of Jaco said:
Ah! Ok, now I have it in bootloader mode. Thanks.
I d/l'd the Official TMO_1.22.531.6 file and unpacked it, but the 40 MB RAR file contains only a 60 KB(?) file named RUU_signed.nbh
What do I do with that?
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the phone should recognize the 6.0 rom update. If it doesn't, unpack it again, wait until the screen ask you if you did everything to establish connection, click next and attempt the bootloader sequence again.
ah-HA!! I did it! Officially un-bricked! I downloaded the latest ROM for the T-Mobile site.
ActiveSync now works, I can receive Outlook email, and have even paired up my Aliph Jawbone via Bluetooth! Thanks so much Rolo!! You rock, dude!
I think I might wait a bit before flashing a custom ROM. I'd like to have sliding panels and such, but I'm not in a hurry.
-GoJ
Tweaked removed post as you obviously found the other .zip needed
Ghost of Jaco said:
ah-HA!! I did it! Officially un-bricked! I downloaded the latest ROM for the T-Mobile site.
ActiveSync now works, I can receive Outlook email, and have even paired up my Aliph Jawbone via Bluetooth! Thanks so much Rolo!! You rock, dude!
I think I might wait a bit before flashing a custom ROM. I'd like to have sliding panels and such, but I'm not in a hurry.
-GoJ
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I'm glad everything worked out well
Same problem with an O2 XDA COSMO.
To put it back to live I need an original O2 XDA COSMO Rom.
Please help or I have to put my loved Cosmo to the bay.
chubbichubbi said:
Same problem with an O2 XDA COSMO.
To put it back to live I need an original O2 XDA COSMO Rom.
Please help or I have to put my loved Cosmo to the bay.
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Yep, you need the official rom that the phone used from factory. Check for your rom on the official rom thread on the sticky. You might want to pm profezza and ask him if the O2 XDA Cosmo, Orange SPV E600 and the Rogers HTC S621 use the same rom. If they do, he has your official rom there.
These Instructions are out of date, and may not work anymore.
-CarComp
EDIT POST ON 5-5-2010
INSTRUCTIONS ARE IN BOLD!!!!!!!
EDITS AND MY OPINIONS ARE IN ITALICS
Want google and not winmo but can't wade through all of the confusion offered up by the supergeeks of android linux? Well just do these steps. It took me an evening to figure out these steps, and could whip it up instantly now.
BTW - it REALLY helps to have a computer with an SDcard slot adapter that handles the micro-sd cards. I don't really recommend trying all this with a USB cable, b/c once you get to linux only, you will kinda be screwed cause it doesn't quite work the same like windows CE. Also that and you can't format through the phone, so just get an adapter ok? Stop right here if you don't have one and just order one or go to walmart and spend 10 bucks and get one. BTW, your micro sd card should have come with one when you bought it, so go look for it.
Ok how to get the super Eclair android into NAND and live a happy life....
1, CHARGE YOUR PHONE UP ALL THE WAY BEFORE ANYTHING. When done charging, unplug whatever is in your USB port for the rest of this procedure. Having phone plugged in while flashing = BAD
2, get hard spl on your phone.
3, Install Hyperdragon IOlite on your phone to get the radio(1.65.24.36) that I recommend, which will improve battery life and possibly other things that I don't know about. Get it here -> http://sakajati.com/blogs/2009/02/hyperdragon-iv-iolite-based-on-htc-iolite/
4, format your 1+ GB sdcard using fat32 only.
5, download polyrhythmics dark / light build for nand and sdcard.
put that SINGLE FILE (androidinstall.tgz) into a folder in the root of the SD-CARD called "andboot" - Get it here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
6, go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/ and download KAISIMG-PANEL2-320-TILT.NBH if you have an ATT tilt. If you have something else, download that NBH.
7, Rename that NBH file to "KAISimg.nbh". Put it in the root of your storage card.
8. Now you are ready to install to nand. Get out your stylus, hold down the camera and power button and press the reset button with the stylus. It should go to an updating screen. If you don't get a white screen with a progress bar, but instead it still shows tri color and says "serial" then you did something wrong. Start over from step 1. Once you get to 100%, wait 20 seconds or something (just for shihtz and giggles) and then pull out the battery.
9. Now, put it back in, press power and wait for android to start booting. You will know cause all this random looking text will go by. You have to be quick to do it, but press the middle button on the d-pad when it says 'press the middle button to enter setup' or soemthing like that. (EDIT: I've been told that you have to just hold the d-pad center button down. Either way, just get that button pushed when it says to push it).
You will be presented with some options. Make sure the little asterisk is on the "NAND" option.
10. Go to the install (first option) and tell it to overwrite everything. It may ask you twice.
Now it should go into a fix of text and waiting and hanging, but be patient. You should eventually see a colorful "X" for about 10 minutes. Go to eat, have a beer, leave the house for awhile. Go mow the yard. Just don't use the phone. When you come back, go through the inital setup (touch the android, and skip everything else. Don't set up anything.) Now go mow the yard again. After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power.
Crap your pants at the speed NAND offers. Install some live desktops (I like the starfield warp drive one from the google market.)
BTW: If you mess up your phone doing this, blah blah its not my fault blah blah you probably shouldn't be on these forums etc. Just make sure you have HardSPL and you will be fine. I've flashed hundreds of roms hundreds of times. Just that one little step will make your life easier.
EDIT:
RADIO DETAILS:
I've heard a LOT about using the latest radio or whatever version 1.71 or soemthing. I run radio 1.65 just fine. I never upgraded it through out all of the android builds. I operate like this.. If you weren't having cell quality issues, GPS lock issues, or any other radio issues in WINMO, then android will be fine too. I've added a step to the process to install a specific winMO rom that has the radio that I use. If you don't like the fact that I'm telling people to use an older radio, so be it. I'm just spreading the word for what works REALLY well for me.
EDIT: (My thoughts on the panel 1 2 3 and the 320 or 428 or whatever...) Picking the right panel is like playing the 'cups and ball' game. if you know which one the ball is under, you will win. Well for you TILT users, the ball is under #2. I don't know why, but it is. If 2 doesn't work, use 1. Doesn't get simpler than that. As for the resolutions, just use the 320. Ya, some apps fit better on the higher res, but our screens don't support them really well, and its all blurry. Think of it like this..... using 4xx instead of 320 is like asking 3 pixels to display as 1, vs. one pixel displaying as one pixel very clearly. Polyrhymic has done a great job supporting our screen's native 320 size, so just use it.
EDIT: (An issue i've noticed with booting and having your phone plugged in). Android just won't do it on nand. You can charge your phone from a dead point for say 20 mins, unplug it, then turn it on, boot android then plug it back in. You can't plug it in, and turn it on. It gets stuck in some sort of USB status loop.
EDIT: (When your phone just sits there on the A N D R O I D text and won't boot). Seems like this has been happening a lot, for me too. I've found there are two ways to stop this, one is preventative... Don't let your phone go totally dead. The second, when you reboot your phone, press and hold dpad center, then just count to 10 and go to the QUIT option. 9 times out of 10 it will boot right up.
IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, JUST REPEAT THE PROCESS.. Don't skip the full charge and installation of Hyperdragon first.
for may people on here, the fear of flashing isn't the problem. it's the missing features such as bluetooth, speakerphone and in some builds even camera.
I would LOVE to go nand. I hate not knowing if the problem is with the build or with the sucky sdcard.
but I need to revert back to winmo for bluetooth headset. once that or speakerphone works I am ON IT.
Nice, couldn't have said it better myself, a few small points, press and HOLD the centre button on Dpad, a quick press will not do it, I'd mention the radio version too, but those are not major issues, and can be sorted easily enough
Good advice about the card reader and adaptor, those two saved my ass a few times in the early days of Nand flashing, I keep a good stock winmo kaisimg.nbh on a spare SD card, you only need a 128Mb one for a stock rom.
Yes there are install instructions on the build posts, but a lot of the info is now spread though some 2000+ posts, so having it all in easy terms helps a load.
I have a question. What is the different those PANEL1, PANEL2 and PANEL3? And the following number 320 - 428 - 480?
And one more silly question, is Tilt the one without 3G camera?
Thx for the instruction, it is easy to understand and so helpful!
added info about panel stuff to the instructions
It is not a fear of flashing in NAND It is just the issue that not all the features works...CAMERA,Bluetooth, voicesearch, so when the features will work than probably everybody will change I know i will ))
my problem is, that i cant get to boot the android for the second time. it just hangs in first screen after booting and thats it...
tried to pull out the battery for 10minutes and still nothing...
Disturbed21 said:
It is not a fear of flashing in NAND It is just the issue that not all the features works...CAMERA,Bluetooth, voicesearch, so when the features will work than probably everybody will change I know i will ))
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agreed, currently no gps working map that can be rely such as garmin that can work on winmo.. 1 disadvantage of android.. need to be online to get route..
Kurt Cobain said:
I have a question. What is the different those PANEL1, PANEL2 and PANEL3? And the following number 320 - 428 - 480?
And one more silly question, is Tilt the one without 3G camera?
Thx for the instruction, it is easy to understand and so helpful!
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320-428-480 là chỉ độ phân giải đó bạn.
320 is a resolution of 240X320 and the 480 is a resolution of 320X480
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Created another edit to the 1st post.
I'm not saying that android doesn't have its shortcomings, I'm just offering a quick means to get to NAND without trying to comprehend the whole thing in the traditional sense of reading 200 threads.
BTW my radio is 1.65.24.36
Maranevin, try flashing Hyperdragon IOlite first. Maybe a radio switch will prod your phone into the correct direction.
Errr, for newbs who don't know how to properly unlock their device isn't this dangerous? There IS a possibility of bricking your phone if you don't know what you're doing -- right?
Anyway, I would also mention that if you or your phone can't do 3G don't flash to NAND yet. The radio can't be instructed to use GSM only with the current poly build (and any other I have tried so far)
I totally agree with mnjm9b, the problem is not flash the phone, the problem is that there are many things that do not. In particular I am very happy with the performance of 2.1g polymod to date is the best I've worked.
carcomp thanks for the help, very good summary.
aikeru, if someone is flashing a phone, they probably know the risks. Its not my fault if they do something stupid. Is it autozone's fault if I buy specialty tools and ruin my engine changing a timing chain?
Anyways, I don't get the 3g thing. We have hardly any 2g or whatever is below 3g here in Mulberry Indiana and my android works fine.
Like I said, maybe i've found that magic mix of things that works really darn good.
BTW: major argument for using android.....
First of all, i'm not borg. I have yet to really get into bluetooth. I own two earpieces and the only good thing i've found is you can talk on the phone in freezing weather with you hands in your pockets. Bluetooth to mute car radios is cool, but I have a 20 year old car. I don't need bluetooth for file transfer cause i've got wifi, and SD CARD.
Second, as for the speakerphone, it never really was that loud anyways. I came from a hermes, which has a speaker like the voice of god, so i've never been impressed with the kaiser speakerphone.
Third, the camera... I have a nikon D60 with a speedlight for taking stills and lowlights, and a Kodak Z612 in my wife's purse most all the time for the past 3 years for video and spot shooting. All this data easily goes onto the micro sd card and into the phone.....
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10. Go to the install (first option) and tell it to overwrite everything. It may ask you twice.
Now it should go into a fix of text and waiting and hanging, but be patient. You should eventually see a colorful "X" for about 10 minutes. Go to eat, have a beer, leave the house for awhile. Go mow the yard. Just don't use the phone. When you come back, go through the inital setup (touch the android, and skip everything else. Don't set up anything.) Now go mow the yard again. After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power.[/B]
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I've done all step above, just when i did this After about 5-10 minutes goes by, come back and pull out the battery. Put it back in and push power. it started back to Step 9 when i had to 'press the middle button to enter setup'.
So, i skipped that step, and then later everytime i tried to press reset button, the phone is freeze, then i had to started over again...
In some cases, my OK button became to POWER button...
And at first time, WIFI was OK, then it showed Unable to start Wi-Fi
Any suggestion for my troubles?
Thank you!!
Great!!
Hi all, Great!! I am now running Android on my kaiser and I love it!!!
Just a couple of questions for people who can answer them:
- How to change phisycal keyboard layout? I mean, some keys that I have in blue aren't the same I have on my keyboard...
- Is there any means to connect to a pc to transfer contacts and files?
Thank you all!!
Gnatto
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my problem is, that i cant get to boot the android for the second time. it just hangs in first screen after booting and thats it...
tried to pull out the battery for 10minutes and still nothing...
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Same problem here. Someone please help. My device is now a worthless brick!!!!
Ok when this happens (its happened to me), first of all don't panick. If you've installed hardspl you are protected, and besides, just cause your phone won't boot android doesn't mean its bricked, it just means its not booting android.
There can be a multitude of things causing this, but the #1 reason I think is "Just because thats how it is"
First of all, don't boot your phone with it plugged in. Ever. Charge it first, then boot it, or charge it enough to make it through boot then plug it in when it reaches android.
Second, sometimes during boot, it just hangs where it says A N D R O I D, or some other text. You can get around this by resetting with stylus, then pressing the center dpad button, then just counting to 10 or 20 or some random number that makes you happy, then select quit. It should boot.
Thanks. Fortunately I unbricked it by putting the KAISDIAG.NBH file onto the SD card, then booted it. This unbricked it. I also put the the KAISIMG.NBH for the Android on here and it booted into the installer. My problem now is that when I click install to NAND, it says it has an error extracting from the SD card for the android installer. It then quits back to the main install screen. I think it is a permissions error since it says on the screen something about being read only. If anyone could help me, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
Oh and btw, I never had usb plugged in since mine is broken.
Ok well you are on the right track. Before you do anything else though, flash a copy of windows Mobile. Either take your pick, or use hyperdragon. Its very complete ... radio / ext rom etc. Next, try reformatting your SD card using windows. Do a complete format, not a quick one. That might help. Now reflash using the link to kaisnbh that i posted.
Remember, installing windows mobile is your NAND reset. Its lot like an sdcard where you can just erase everything. You have to put something else there that is radically different. I may be wrong about this, but it seems to be the case more often than not.
You may be one of the special case people who have a weird phone that takes one of the other KAISimg.nbh files too, so don't discount that. Also since you have hardspl, and you are flashing from the sdcard, you phone is probably NOT going to brick, and even if it does screw up royally, if you can still get to tri color, you can fix it.
Ok. That's great to know. I'll try what you stated. Do I need to partition my SD card? Thanks again. I really appreciate the help.
A few hours ago i was browsing the xda portal when i found a thread about someone booting win 95 on his HTC Himalaya.... so i found it a little bit interesting so i want to try it out myself..... just few minutes later i googled some info and find out that need to increase my screen resolution by nyditot virtual display software....then i just download the trial version of it and try it on my BA.....however, my device wont pass the tricolor bootscreen(first one that is) and it just freeze there.....so i tried to remove the battery and luckily my device boot normally afterwards...dammit that app...so i go to settings and remove that sh**ty app..after that, i power off my device and put it into the cradle to charge it..my ba lights up as it detect the charging...but i just saw a white screen instead of a display...it shocked me and the first thing that i do was to soft reset it...however, after soft reset,i tried to power off and power on my phone..then the same as before a white screen,,,i also tried setting the screen to blank by using core player options... the screen didn't went blank as if it was powered off...but it seems that i can still see the display like just the backlight is turned out...however touching the screen wont do anyting....i need help asap as i need to use my device to finish my assignments...well the only possible solution that i'm seeing right now is just a hard reset...but i dont want that..recently just got everything working on my BA(wi-fi, mms, psx games,etc that i dont want to lose)help me , please.....
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A few hours ago i was browsing the xda portal when i found a thread about someone booting win 95 on his HTC Himalaya.... so i found it a little bit interesting so i want to try it out myself..... just few minutes later i googled some info and find out that need to increase my screen resolution by nyditot virtual display software....then i just download the trial version of it and try it on my BA.....however, my device wont pass the tricolor bootscreen(first one that is) and it just freeze there.....so i tried to remove the battery and luckily my device boot normally afterwards...dammit that app...so i go to settings and remove that sh**ty app..after that, i power off my device and put it into the cradle to charge it..my ba lights up as it detect the charging...but i just saw a white screen instead of a display...it shocked me and the first thing that i do was to soft reset it...however, after soft reset,i tried to power off and power on my phone..then the same as before a white screen,,,i also tried setting the screen to blank by using core player options... the screen didn't went blank as if it was powered off...but it seems that i can still see the display like just the backlight is turned out...however touching the screen wont do anyting....i need help asap as i need to use my device to finish my assignments...well the only possible solution that i'm seeing right now is just a hard reset...but i dont want that..recently just got everything working on my BA(wi-fi, mms, psx games,etc that i dont want to lose)help me , please.....
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Well, uninstalling nydiots might have messed some drivers up. Sorry to tell you this, but I think that your only option will be hard reset. BTW, I edited your post a bit... watch the language we have kids around the site, you know?
yeah, sorry bout that....i was really upset that time....but now i've found a solution....luckily i dont need to do a hard reset...i reinstall the application again(nothing much to lose...)and realised that in the application folder there was a shortcut named "vd restore"(what else should that mean...)used that and viola, everything was back to normal...then, later, i downloaded nyditot vd the latest version and it worked....just that it was too slow maybe because of the scaling...and titanium wont work...maybe it need it's own cpr....so i want to request anyone here who have it, vga titanium .cpr file please post it for me....will continue to explore what i can do with this application...and btw, thanks mr.egzthunder1 for replying....
Glad everything worked out