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Hi all,
I'm going to holidays soon and I want my Desire to last as long as it can...
At the moment I'm running Modaco r6 Froyo with Sense with the radio 42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 and battery drain is not bad, but it can be better. It lasts about 24 hours with mid usage...
The ROM that I'm using is not supporting the UVOC kernel so I can NOT use SetCPU to optimize battery drain...
So I'm ready to go back to 2.1 if I'm going to have a better battery drain!
My requirements are: it must have HTC Sense and the included Dialer/Contacts app (so please no stock ROMS)
And it would be great if my batter could last more than 2 days without charge..
Any feedback ?
d3sm0nd said:
Hi all,
I'm going to holidays soon and I want my Desire to last as long as it can...
At the moment I'm running Modaco r6 Froyo with Sense with the radio 42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 and battery drain is not bad, but it can be better. It lasts about 24 hours with mid usage...
The ROM that I'm using is not supporting the UVOC kernel so I can NOT use SetCPU to optimize battery drain...
So I'm ready to go back to 2.1 if I'm going to have a better battery drain!
My requirements are: it must have HTC Sense and the included Dialer/Contacts app (so please no stock ROMS)
And it would be great if my batter could last more than 2 days without charge..
Any feedback ?
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All the SenseUI ROM's are pretty much the same as they're all based on the same source and have the same kernel, it's totally up to you which one you prefer though, I'd go for the one with the least bloat.
Also I'm using the same radio as you and get a very decent battery running OpenDesire.
May I ask why you don't want a stock ROM?
dnlgee said:
All the SenseUI ROM's are pretty much the same as they're all based on the same source and have the same kernel, it's totally up to you which one you prefer though, I'd go for the one with the least bloat.
Also I'm using the same radio as you and get a very decent battery running OpenDesire.
May I ask why you don't want a stock ROM?
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I just love the HTC Dialer, Contacts and SMS app... and sadly they can not be installed on a stock rom.
Try the one shown in my signature.
SimonCraddock said:
Try the one shown in my signature.
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It's based on the leak same as the ROM i'm using and you can not flash a custom kernel to use SetCPU to save battery.
d3sm0nd said:
It's based on the leak same as the ROM i'm using and you can not flash a custom kernel to use SetCPU to save battery.
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Not going to get any OCUV on a leaked SenseUI ROM unfortunately, you can just install SetCPU and underclock the kernel though.
42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 works great on OpenDesire and Official Froyo HTC Sense v1.0c by OD team, and also LeeDroid v1.6, in my experience so far.
dnlgee said:
Not going to get any OCUV on a leaked SenseUI ROM unfortunately, you can just install SetCPU and underclock the kernel though.
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Hmm.. didn't knew that this will work! Will try the ROM that SimonCraddock said... i see good feedback in the thread for battery life.
ryanrich said:
42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 works great on OpenDesire and Official Froyo HTC Sense v1.0c by OD team, and also LeeDroid v1.6, in my experience so far.
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What's the difference between them?
I vote neophyte 1.3
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cenkaan said:
What's the difference between them?
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The first two I mentioned are very similar but OD is stock Froyo and the other has Sense.
LeeDroid was good but I had an issue that kept creeping up. Might have been one of my apps or widgets though because others haven't reported it. I just find with OpenDesire I have a nice clean, fast and stable ROM with no bloatware and good battery life, and I love the development that Adam puts into it...
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... I love the development that Adam puts into it...
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So for the thread-opener:
Use "Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM by OpenDesire Team"
It´s from the OpenDesire developer (think he really knows what he does) and it`s not full of stuff nobody needs. A clean, fast, stable FROYO SENSE...
(I`m using it myself)
I use "Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM by OpenDesire Team" with radio 42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 and last night I lost 20% in 6.5 hours with doing nothing. When I looked the next morning what drained my battery "Batteryinfo" told me the Android system. 3G was on that 6.5 hours.
20% in 6.5 hours, I don't think that's good...
bigmouth66 said:
I use "Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM by OpenDesire Team" with radio 42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 and last night I lost 20% in 6.5 hours with doing nothing. When I looked the next morning what drained my battery "Batteryinfo" told me the Android system. 3G was on that 6.5 hours.
20% in 6.5 hours, I don't think that's good...
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That's not the ROM, it's some or other application or mod that you have installed. I have experienced this same thing on quite a few different ROM's now and it's always related to something not working correctly with that specific ROM. Do some testing though, full wipe, install ROM, don't restore any of your apps, mods or widgets, and monitor the battery life over an hour or two with the phone on standby...
When I was on Official Froyo my phone lost about 4% over 6 hours on standby with 3G and everything on...
Any non sense ROM with latest radio. Did once 3 days with opendesire. Now I use cyanogen RC1. Also seems to be very battery friendly.
Be sure to use as little widgets as possible, I only use power control and retro clock.
If you want to save even more use the night vision mode in cyanogen.
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That's not the ROM, it's some or other application or mod that you have installed. I have experienced this same thing on quite a few different ROM's now and it's always related to something not working correctly with that specific ROM. Do some testing though, full wipe, install ROM, don't restore any of your apps, mods or widgets, and monitor the battery life over an hour or two with the phone on standby...
When I was on Official Froyo my phone lost about 4% over 6 hours on standby with 3G and everything on...
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Thanks! I now saw that my Twitter was updating every 15 min. Put it on 1 hour now. Will check again tonight. Will kill all apps first with the system info app and hopefully I will have a better result tomorrow
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Not going to get any OCUV on a leaked SenseUI ROM unfortunately, you can just install SetCPU and underclock the kernel though.
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Not sure it's true. Take a look at this one: http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/312051/oclock-custom-rom/
(can't say much about battery life because I use my phone very intensive so I don't expect it to last more than 12 hours but it does seem better than with stock Sense ROM).
I`ve tested many many many ROMs (OpenDesire, DeFroST, LeeDroid etc.) and with the last one (OD 2.4a) i had strong battery drain >1% every two minutes in standby, airplane mode! No apps in backround, undervolted and underclocked to 699 MHz.
Today I have flashed radio v.5.09.00.08 and Official FroyoSense from OD Team AND wiped Battery stats from Recovery Menu.
... voila! 3G on, no setCPU, synchronization every 4 hour, everything else same as in OD 2.4a = 3% (average) lost in one hour!
IMHO this is the best radio/rom combination ever had!
Where can I download the 42.52.00.32U_5.09.00.08 Radio?
Right there
Which rom provides the best and longest battery life?
Now that all depends on what you want the rom for.
Do you want HTC Sense? Android Stock? AOSP?
Then the kernels you use have a dramatic difference, and the Radio which can be used.
Personally I'm on:
Rom - Oxygen 1.0.4 (AOSP)
Radio - 32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
Kernel - 2.6.35.9-vorkKernel [email protected] #1
And from all this, depending on how I use the rom.. On a busy day I'll get near 15 hours battery life, and on a quiet time, I can get around 30-40 hours, and all that,without using SetCpu.
So you've got to look at quite a lot of options. Also depends on what apps you use, and widgets, brightness etc.
Not much help but that's my setup and how it works personally for me.
Dan
Swyped from my Deoxygenated HTC Desire
I have tried Miui and also defrost but i didn't know that the kernel was that important.
Could you sugest other rom's? It doesnt matter AOSP or any other
If you keep to the radio which I mentioned in the earlier post.. I do suggest that you try sense roms: LeeDroid's rom, stable and fantastic, as is AuraxTSense tbh, though I'm not keen on the way that rom looks and can drain the battery quite a bit. Oxygen is also a fantastic AOSP rom, as is Cyanogen. DeFrost is good also, similar to Cyanogen mind.
I have never tried any MIUI roms so I can't suggest.
If you're willing to look on other forums, I suggest looking at http://android.modaco.com/ and go to the Desire section and have a look at some of the Sense and NO-Sense roms on there, they are also good for lack of drain.
Stick to the radio I mentioned and you won't go wrong mate . Most kernels released with the roms have been made specifically for that rom and usually will be the best that there is already, so don't worry yourself about that too much.
Dan
Swyped from my Deoxygenated HTC Desire
Thank you very much my friend.
Anyone else got ideas for a rom with good battery?
Hi,
I have a HTC Desire Z and I'm currently using the Vision Sense 1.82.405.1 Untouched ROM. I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
I'm generally happy with the phone as it is now, but my main gripes are its speed - it lags noticeably sometimes - and battery life - I get about a day at most, and by that I mean from the time I wake up to the time I sleep, not 24hrs).
Are there any comparisons/writeups on what the various ROMs offer, and how they're different from one another?
Thanks.
I'm running Blackdroidmod 3.3.0 with stock Radio, set the governer @ Interactive min 386mhz and max 1016mhz and I'm using LauncherPro (plus) instead of the stock/ADW launcher. I love it and I reach 20 hours easily with moderate usage.
(2~ 4 calls/day, average of 10 texts, lots of whatsapp messages and activesync @ 2 accounts + 2 x pop3 accounts polling every hour, fb polling every 15 mins, weather sync every 2 hours, some gaming and listening to mp3) and it's always smooth (806mhz max is enough if you don't use multiple apps at the same time).
It's stable and everything works right away from the first time I flashed it. CM7.0 is good... but isn't very stable in my opinion and misses some applications while Blackdroidmod looks a bit like Sense.
goister said:
Hi,
I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
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Really not much, if you are a Sense fan. Google fixed a bunch of aesthetic/theming stuff, and improved the keyboard. Most of which is moot, since HTC themes mostly override the theme changes, and HTC uses their own keyboard. There may be some performance improvements or bug fixes. But in running both Froyo and GB ROMs, I didn't notice much performance difference. This might be due to the fact that most of the current Gingerbread ROMs are ports from other phones, or based on the leaked Desire Z test ROM. But I have not tried the recent G2 (no Sense) leaked test ROM, which is supposed to be pretty fast.
HTC Sense really slows down the phone, so a move to any ROM without Sense will probably improve your performance. Alternately, the lag you are noticing is probably due to the Sense launcher, which seems to be a CPU and memory hog. Try another launcher, like ADW or Launcher Pro, and you will probably find it improves performance quite a bit. You will lose the HTC widgets, but retain some of the nice HTC features, like the camera.
Getting a "waking day" (charge overnight) out of a modern smartphone is pretty normal. Of course, it completely depends on how much you use your phone. But with moderate use, I have yet to get more than a day, on various ROMs and radios. I can get 24 hours+ on very light use. What is your screen brightness set to? The screen brightness is actually one of the biggest battery drain culprits. If its on auto, turn that off, and reduce the brightness to the lowest setting you find usable/tolerable. Mine is on 35%. Just going from auto to a lower setting can improve battery life quite a bit.
If you like sense, I've found the battery life on the Trollogen Mod 0.9.1 to be SPECTACULAR. So far it's given me the best battery life out of all the ROMs I've tried. That includes Virtuous with the advanced kernel and multiple SetCPU profiles and the stock Gingerbread ROMs.
I tried running the battery down last night at a friends place for laughs and left music running on Wi-Fi with full brightness. I was constantly turning the screen on and looking at websites and so forth and by the time I got home (6 hours later) it had only just hit 67%. What's surprising is I didn't need a custom kernel or to modify it with SetCPU
Wow, 3 replies, 3 different suggestions. This is gonna be tough...
So far I've only heard of Virtuous, GingerVillian and Cyanogenmod, never heard of the others.
Oh I forgot to mention I'd like something that's stable as well, I've noticed things crash/reload quite a bit currently.
Trollogen is still a beta but its fairly stable as far as I can see. But if stability is really an issue you should stick with virtuous and install a new kernel on it.
My suggestion for a stable rom would be Virtuous with the advanced kernel. With 1.0.2 OCed to 1.3GHz and stock battery,i got about 16hrs of life with moderate use. Replaced with mugen 1800mAh and now can get 20hrs with moderate use and 30hrs with light use.
Havent used CM or TGM yet, but SenseGinger goes have some bugs in it which turned me away before. I would probably stick with a Froyo release until the official 2.3 rom gets released by HTC.
Happy flashing
Sent from my Virtuous Desire Z 1.0.2 using XDA App
Lately there have been so many new ports, it's hard to keep up...but I do! (But mostly with Sense) Flash something new very night, but I always keep coming back to virtuous 1.0.2 with advanced kernel 2.2.0.
Everything just works, always (except HTC calendar widget disappears after a reboot, for some reason). Very speedy for sense, and being able to overclock pushes it into a winning position for me versus the gingerbread sense roms.
Xboarder56's stock gingerbread worked pretty well for me while I was on it for a couple of days. Worth a try!
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
Both Virtuous G-lite and Fusion have OC kernels and shouldn't have to flash a new one on install. Just have to get SetCPU or CPUTuner to enable the OC, both up to 1.5GHz.
Sent from my AOSP Virtuous Desire Z using XDA App
goister said:
OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
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G-Lite is a Gingerbread ROM, with no Sense. Fusion is a port of Gingerbread (from another phone), with Sense 3.0. Sense 3.0 has some cool new features, but the launcher takes up most of the phone's memory (our phone is not meant to run Sense 3.0, and we won't be getting it "officially" for this reason). Just about every time you go back to the launcher home, it needs to reload the launcher, which is annoying. There are also some graphical glitches. So I found Fusion fun to play with for a while, but I'm back on Froyo, probably until the official Sense ROM for our device is released (and a rooted version is posted here).
If you want Sense, stability and usability, the "original" Virtuous is probably what you want. Its easy to install. You can download straight in ROM Manager, and flash from there. You might not have to do a full wipe, since you are coming from a stock Froyo Sense ROM. But if you have any issues, you should probably wipe (dalvik, cache, and data) and flash again. Also, do a nandroid/clockwork backup of your current ROM, before you flash Virtuous, in case you have the need or desire to return to your current setup. ROM Manager will give you the choice to backup the current ROM when you go to flash Virtuous.
Virtuous comes overclocked to 1 GHz by default. The advanced kernel gives additional overclocking options (up to 1.51 GHz), that's all. Advanced kernel pretty much requires you to setup screen-off profiles with SetCPU (or similar app) or you will (AFAIK) almost certainly have issues with the screen waking. So you might not want to mess with it, and to stick with the default/included kernel, unless you are really interested in OC speeds over 1 GHz.
The Virtuous Gingerbread kernel allows overclocking of G-Lite and Fusion. They can't be used with the "regular" (Froyo based) Virtuous. Vice versa is also true.
But really, there isn't a whole lot that Virtuous actually gives you in addition to stock. You can flash the Godspeed kernel on the stock ROM, if you want to overclock. Virtuous also has trackpad wake, which is very cool. But again, you can do this mod on the stock ROM. So modding the stock ROM to your liking may be another option.
The insertcoin rom is another half way house option. It is Sense 2.1 based with some 3.0 bits added.
It is still a bit more memory intensive than stock, but it does have the very cool lockscreen, which is one of my main reasons for sticking with it. That and the CRT animations always keep me happy.
I have been using it as my daily driver for a while now.
Does G-Lite is a stable rom for G2 ?
Im searching for a stable, overclockable Rom based on 2.3
I read about CM7, and looks with so many issues on gps, etc..
Does G-Lite is stable and gps, bluetooth, youtube, etc works ?
Also, I need a tip, or a feature. I need to use a Rom (or chance any config) to put the Navigator voice on Brazilian Portuguese.
CM have this, but with the problems on GPS.
Any ideia ?
If you want something other then a Sense Rom. You could try meXdroid. It is stable and fast. It is a Gingerbread Rom (2.3.4) I have been using his roms for a while now. The dev and his team theme out the rom. Here is a link to meXdroid rom with screen shots. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886184
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
pyromod 2.0 with smartass...1.5ghz and great batt life
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angusbrasil said:
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
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meXdroid is not a Sense Rom. It just has a theme. Look at the link in the post above. You can see a few screen shots of the Rom there. You can overclock meXdroid to 1.5 ghz also. You really don't need to though. It is fast at 800 mhz. I know Quadrant does not mean a lot but at 800 mhz my scores are 2500+ and at 1.2 ghz my scores are 3000+.
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
smokeuout said:
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
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Oh no no. My post was not to say anything about your post. I was just stating as you did that meXdroid can overclock also. You can post here all you want. This is a question in the Q&A section not in the meXdroid thread. Your all good. Have a good one.
hey alright...it was the right section...lol..no im new to posting so im still learnin the areas and such...b seriously PYROMOD 2.0
pimped out g2
Hi all
i'm currently using an AOSP ROM, namely MIUI 1.6.5 on a HTC desire (NON HD...)
which combination RADIO,RIL,Kernel do you guys suggests for this Rom
( I have found such topic for desire HD but nothing for std desire...) in order to get the best battery performance
rgds
I updated my radio to 5.17.05.23 as this helps. As for my kernel, I used the ManU kernel but I used the vipermod as well to lower the voltages. From light/moderate use you could get 2 days easy. As for the RIL it doesn't really make much of a battery life saver really so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
Swyped...
Hi guys I need a new stable rom...currently on oxygen 2.1.6 and just not enjoying the low battery life and a few other bugs...toss up as I see is between insertcoin or neophyte
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
It will be the same problem...
Main thing im looking for is good battery life
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Then AOSP ROM's like Oxygen should be best for battery life, you can also try CyanogenMod 7.
Sense ROMs are not going to help improve battery life, you're better off looking into AOSP for that. That said, you could try to alter your usage to get more battery ie: screen at a lower brightness, 3G off, no background syncing etc.
Redux is fantastic for HTC Desire, it's also a ROM that's made for the HTC Desire only, so it's very fine-tuned for it. Battery life on Redux was far better than CM7 and Sense as well.
can't post a link to the redux rom homepage due to this silly post count restriction.
Sense 2.1 + 3.0 addons ROM with awesome battery life : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1170633
Really great !!!
Why don't you try to change RADIO or something ... battery life won't improve by instaling other ROM cuz oxygen is the most battery efficient ...
ilijevski said:
Why don't you try to change RADIO or something ... battery life won't improve by instaling other ROM cuz oxygen is the most battery efficient ...
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Indeed.
Oxygen is less overheaded!
But we have to do "try and error" many times 'cause it's the only way to determine which RADIO is the best for your carrier.
Combination with RIL and RADIO will affect your battery also.
For me, Ginger Villain 2.6 + stock RADIO/RIL + MANU Kernel was the best.