[Q] Struggling to load HD roms with new 32gb card - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All,
Bought myself a new Kingston class 4 32gb microsdhc the other day. Love my music and vids, and also find that travelling a bit, downloading the maps through the HTC locations app is useful, so i'm loving the HD roms.
However, tried to load up Cool V4, and Insertcoin last night and really really struggled. Bootloops galore. Eventually got Cool V4 to work after flashing the extra bit to remove apps2sd.
Both roms load up fine with apps2sd if I switch back to the supplied 4gb card.
Also tried Cool V4 with apps2ext, but had similar issues.
So it works, but of course it means i'm hampered by reduced space for apps.
Has anyone else had similar issues and found a way around them?

Sounds like you've not partitioned the card correctly. How did you do it?

I've tried both with amonra 2.0 and with parted. Same result. also tried both 1gb and 2gb ext4. same result. oh, and with and without swap partition. guess what?
I'm sure the card is a genuine one. It formats on windows and the phone and checks with h2testw just fine.
I was thinking of completely starting from scratch again... new s-off, new nand etc, but not sure if it would change anything as it does seem card related.

Other thing could be with it not supporting cards that fast, have heard others saying you NEED class 2 32GB cards but that was on other Android phones
What happens if you try a non-HD ROM?

no problem with a non-HD rom as they don't "require" you to have an extx partition. But then they don't have the locations app which is one of my main reasons for using an HD rom. I don't have/want a data contract, which means all my maps should be preloaded and rerady to go. Equally I don't want to have to pay for things like co-pilot, or route66 when It's there and ready in the HD rom.
I am assuming they use the ext partition as an extension of the onboard memory as they are obviously designed to a phone with a much larger memory.
The strange thing is that I can move some apps to the SD card through the applications settings. But with only 28Mb free, and half the things I need to install not there, and knowing the way my luck is, they will be the type that can't be moved, I'm gonna run out completely pretty soon.
As for the speed, I would assume that as it's being used as a memory extension it would require a fast speed rather than a slow one. But then I guess the desire wasn't designed when fast big cards were in the market, and of course weren't intended to run roms from a different phone.

If you want A2SD+ they do, try a non-HD ROM which uses it

Hmm yeah, good point. Will try that this evening thanks. I suspect it is A2SD+ that is causing the issues rather than the HD part, but that will narrow it down.
Did I read somewhere than A2SD+ requires a class 6 minimum? I thought though that there was no limitation on A2EXT, which also failed.
Will report back later. (would have just been nice to not be the guinea pig on this one )

I have a Class 2 16GB card and A2SD+ is fine - DATA2SD needs at least 6 to work properly, mind

So I've tried to logically go through some stages each time to check if I can get any of the roms that need storage space on the sd card to work.
I've tried 3 roms. One with A2SD+, one with DATA2SD and one with DATA2EXT. only one i didn't try was D2Whatever.
Each time I tried twice. Once using a 1gb partition created by amonra, and once by creating a partition with parted. No swap areas at all. Each time I also used the aligned-ext4 script that's knocking about. With the D2EXT rom, I only used the recommended settings for 2 EXT4 partitions of 268 and 768 (exactly the numbers i don't recall, but it was what was written in the thread as "working").
And yet, I get absolutely no joy each time.
The only way i can seem to get a rom to work that requires extra space is to use the script written for D2SD that removes the A2SD part of the rom, which allows me to load up fine. Obviously though i'm then very low on storage space for apps. This all points at some error that is affected by the SD card to me. However, when this does load up, I can use the standard froyo A2SD to allow moving of some apps to the SD. Again though, it's not very effective and can only be used in certain apps... ones which i seem not to be using so much!
I'm basically at the limit of my knowledge (limited admittedly, but i've flashed roms enough times on the desire and on other phones to kinda know what's up). This thing has me beaten. There's no obvious reason why they don't work. People have used faster cards, people have used slower cards, People have used the sandisk 32gb which is supposedly the same size AND slower.
Can anyone help? Has anyone successfully loaded a rom which uses A2SD, D2SD or D2EXT onto a desire with a kingston 32gb class 4 card? Can they share how they created partitions, and any extra steps the made to get it to work?
I can't take my phone out of action tonight as i'm expecting an important call in the morning, but I will absolutely wipe my desire from nand up tomorrow, and also double check the h2testw scores on my card. If that doesn't work, then i can't see how anything will.

Hey i just thought i'd add my experiences to this thread as it is similar!
I went for iNsertCoin Desire HD Rom Data2ext version. Formattted the memory with gparted as 6113mb FAT32, 1024mb EXT4, 256mb EXT4 and 255mb unpartioned.
Installed rom etc fine, installed a few apps but phone started lagging so i looked in titanium to see the following screenshot. This can't be right so i reformatted and did it all again. But after reinstalling, my apps installed again that i thought i deleted when i formatted memory card and phone (did full wipe, cache, delvik etc etc).
Any ideas?

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Internal Memory

Does any one know how much Internal phone storage there is from stock(NEW) on the desire, it's just that I dont seem to have much on my phone there is only 14.46mb left, and also tried to install a game that is 8mb and it says there isnt enough room please free up some storage???????
I remember that on 2.1 it should be around 130mb. And on 2.2 i think i heard you had an additional 10 mb so 140mb.
So if your's starts with only 14.46 there is definitely something wrong. (are you sure you haven't installed a lot of stuff already?)
Flaggie said:
I remember that on 2.1 it should be around 130mb. And on 2.2 i think i heard you had an additional 10 mb so 140mb.
So if your's starts with only 14.46 there is definitely something wrong. (are you sure you haven't installed a lot of stuff already?)
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Rite at the min I have 13.68 mb free on the phone and the icon saying low space, and i have added up whats on the phone in apps and it's about 65mb so in total thats still not the 130.
Wonder where all my space is??????????????
Can any one help??????????
Would suggest hard reset and start from new
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root your phone, install custom mod that has apps2sd+, partition your sd card and all your problems will go away.
There should be 147MB free space for aps in Desire, I personally counted every installed app and i found out it is +-150MB, so its right
What is the advantage of partitioning the SD card?
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kickasskev
You have probably already checked this but just incase ............... have you checked if you are storing old emails - some attachments can use up alot of space
The desire is **** for the amount of internal memory available for apps, only about 147mb available on the desire compared to 1.8gb on the Samsung galaxy s. Even froyo apps2sd implementation is **** on recent update. I initially could transfer only bits of 7 apps to SD and later about a total of 11 apps to SD partially.
This internal memory problem is a major drawback on the desire. I have 2 desire phones both 3months old and both on htc froyo and not rooted, but if I was buying now I might have bought the galaxy s instead because of this memory issue. I like HTC sense but it occupies too much of the 500+mb of internal memory on the desire.
You can download quick system info app or other similar apps to check your system details.
I might try the sdk method for forcing apps to external memory but looking to see if it voids the warranty from HTC. HTC needs to get their heads out of their backside and deal with this apps2internal memory ****e. Plus allowing screen shots as in the galaxy s would be a bonus without rooting.
almost every day since i bought the phones i continuously have memory alerts as my internal free meory often fluctuates between 20 to 4mb as i gorge on loads of app and have about 117 icons now i think for apps on the apps/programs main folder, all apps are free, i would buy more if not for this memory problem. but i dont buy as i keep trying different apps on a daily basis and forced to uninstall apps to instal new ones due to memory problems. whats the ****ing point of allowing a 32gb card if one can only allow 147mb for any apps and programs on internal memory. atleast samsung in the samsung galaxy s had some foresight and put in 2gb internal memory of which 1.8gb can be used for apps unlike just 147mb on the desire.
Root your phone and force all apps to SD. I have over 20 apps installed and still have 100+mb of interal mememory left.
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bob dylan said:
Root your phone and force all apps to SD. I have over 20 apps installed and still have 100+mb of interal mememory left.
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i would if not for the guarantee issue. once i am sure the guarantee isnt voided then will go that route or try the sdk method without rooting mentioned on another thread. think will query in writing this with htc whether the sdk method will void the warranty. all i want (for now) is proper apps2sd (not the crap dished out with froyo) and screenshots like on the galaxy s would be a bonus.
at present have about 115 icons on my apps/programs section. not sure how many preinstalled and how many i installed. but have about 30.91mb left after uninstalling google earth because of freq memory issues as google earth takes up about 22.4mb even though the download file is just 5.1mb. so if i had google earth as well (which i like very much but cant have for want of space) then i would have only about 8mb left and market gives problems while doing updates and hang for more than 24h at a time. anything less than 15mb will give probs and consequently one gets onlt 147-15 = 132mb for actual use on the desire unlike 1.8gb on the samsung galaxy s.
i havent bought any games or other costly programs because of the crap internal memory issue.
i've recently installed a2sd through Rom manager, and was wondering, how do i know if the new apps i install is on the sd?
if i backup from titanium backup, from before i had a2sd, will it store on the sd or internal memory?
Are u guys using Exchange mail with stock mail app?
Maybe check the mail app data size first. There is a terrible bug that the stock mail app has memory leak issue and will leave huge unremovable data even if you removed all emails.
Only a factory reset will temporarily resolve this. This happens with stock 2.1. I am not sure about 2.2...
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So if I use revolked3 to root it and put app2sd will my froyo update which i have not had yet cos im on a branded o2 phone still work, cos i read some where people were having problems with revolked and the 2.2 update.
I have tried putting a stock rom on but with no joy and with 10 pairs of dirty pants later cos i keep ****in my self every time i try to do it cos i dont have a clue and i dont wanna brick me phone, so if anyone can tel me if this revolked3 is ok and wont mess with my update when I get it, I will put that on and install apps2sd
I'm having a similar problem. Before I rooted I only ever had one message advising I was low on disc space. I've now rooted using unrevoke and installed leedroid 1.9 with A2SD and I have constantly got the low disc space message. I have changed the modinstalllocation to the SD card and transferred every app it will let me transfer to the card. But I only have 9.08MB free on the phone?? Any ideas what I can do to free up more space?
Rik_UK said:
I'm having a similar problem. Before I rooted I only ever had one message advising I was low on disc space. I've now rooted using unrevoke and installed leedroid 1.9 with A2SD and I have constantly got the low disc space message. I have changed the modinstalllocation to the SD card and transferred every app it will let me transfer to the card. But I only have 9.08MB free on the phone?? Any ideas what I can do to free up more space?
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i am using leedroid as well...i have 115mb left. i have tons of apps including navigon which should take 25 mb without APPS2sd+.
when downloading leedroid make sure u download the APPStoSD+ that plus at the end is important. If you mix up with froyo APPS2sd which is rubbish u will still do down on space.
mod install location is also not very good.
partion your sd card with rom manager to ext3
then install leedroid APPS2SD+
dont use apps2sd froyo or mod install location
txitxi2004 said:
i am using leedroid as well...i have 115mb left. i have tons of apps including navigon which should take 25 mb without APPS2sd+.
when downloading leedroid make sure u download the APPStoSD+ that plus at the end is important. If you mix up with froyo APPS2sd which is rubbish u will still do down on space.
mod install location is also not very good.
partion your sd card with rom manager to ext3
then install leedroid APPS2SD+
dont use apps2sd froyo or mod install location
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Thanks. Will give that a try tonight.
Instead of starting a new one, I'll just post here.
If stock froyo has 150mb free space, there's something wrong with my internal memory. I just did a count (manually) of all apps (>100kb) and the total space was 40.43 MB. I excluded apps smaller than 100kb, which were the last 10-20 on the list, thus not a big difference. At the moment I have 27mb free space. I can imagine there's some "lost space" due to fragmentation, but 80mb ...
I already did the setInstallLocation mod to move some apps to SD. I think the next step is rooting... But I don't really want to do that before I figured out where those 80mb are.
The Desire is an amazing phone, but the internal memory makes it a prehistoric device. I mean, today we can cram terabytes in a wallet-sized case, but I'm still counting the kilobytes that would fit on my device...
EDIT: I updated google maps (4.5.1) and went to 19mb free space, there we go again...

[Q] App icons slow to load

When i turn on my phone or disconnect from the computer the app icons that are loaded to the sd card take an average of 3-5 minutes to load. Any ideas as to the problem?
The SD card is likely a lot slower than the phone storage. Do you have a 32GB card?
PGleo86 said:
The SD card is likely a lot slower than the phone storage. Do you have a 32GB card?
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I had an 8gig class 6 that I replaced with a 16 gig class 10. Both cards have the same problem.
What ROM are you on?
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What ROM are you on?
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I am running the stock rom but am contemplating going to the Cryogene's rom or someone others. I haven't researched them to much yet. My phone has done everything I have asked it so far.
Well it might be an issue with the stock ROM. Haven't used it myself for a while though, so I can't say
What ROM are you using? I am thinking i should just root the damn thing and be done with it.
Thats a pretty standard problem with stock stuff, i would root it....theres at least 1 kernel that has sdcard speed fixes. The one i use is chad0989's incredikernel...it takes maybe 1 min now
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Right now I'm on Uber Sense RC2.0.0.
It's the Desire Z Sense with themes support, and the only issue I've had with it is no HD support in camcorder (800x480 max) and to mount to PC you need to use the included Uberscript app. But, those are VERY minor things, and I love it
And unrevoked couldn't be simpler to use. I strongly recommend rooting.

Unable to pull down notification bar while installing apps

Hi all,
I am new to flashing custom ROM but am glad that I manage to do it and have LeeDrOid 2.3d installed now. Flashed a custom glass theme and also flashed the fly-in animation and a customized color of notification bar for better viewing, too. Really love it a lot and thanks a lot to the developers!
However, I found that my Desire would lag significantly and also unable to pull down the notification bar during any installations of apps. Don't recall they on my stock ROM.
So, my question is, what is the cause of this, and is there a way to rectify this?
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It is because of the A2SD+. Having that lag too, when installing.
Basically the phone copies the app to the ext partition and it's get laggy (since the SD card is under heavy use). Nothing to worry about.
Could that be the class of my SD Card? It's a terrible Class 2.
So, any A2SD+ ROM would suffer from this issue? Will a better class of SD card be rectified?
you may experience lags if using a2sd+ rom on a class 2 sd card while installing
however it is also ROM related
on old baadnewz dhd roms (like 1.5version) i also had a big lag while installing an app but right now on 1.9 version it is totally gone despite my class 2 sd card
ps. yes - better SD card will improve situation

Is Apps2sd really worth the trouble?

Besides the obvious free up of local space on the EVO, what are other advantages of setting up apps2sd? I am running MIUI and would like to give it a shot if worth it. Thanks in advance.
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I ran it for a while, had my card partitioned and everything, the zipalign bonus is fantastic but that's about it, I formatted my card recently and haven't looked back to set it back up
if you has class 10 then go for it, my class 6i didn't notice much improvement, class 2 dont bother
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I ran it for a while, had my card partitioned and everything, the zipalign bonus is fantastic but that's about it, I formatted my card recently and haven't looked back to set it back up
if you has class 10 then go for it, my class 6i didn't notice much improvement, class 2 dont bother
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I've got an 8GB Class 6 card. I think I will not mess with it for now, seeing that performance wise there isn't much to be gained. Thanks for your response, buddy.
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Which applications to sdcard?
I tried both. I'm now with a2sd from darktremore.
It has many nice features, like zip align and cache relocate.
I had my apps2sd (file based) continuously loose the symlink pointers. May be fixed now ?
I tried it a2sd on my hero and haven't looked back. I do run a class 10 sdcard. For power consumption . Class 4 would probably have been adequate. Good luck in which ever you choose.
willy900wonka said:
Which applications to sdcard?
I tried both. I'm now with a2sd from darktremore.
It has many nice features, like zip align and cache relocate.
I had my apps2sd (file based) continuously loose the symlink pointers. May be fixed now ?
I tried it a2sd on my hero and haven't looked back. I do run a class 10 sdcard. For power consumption . Class 4 would probably have been adequate. Good luck in which ever you choose.
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Yea, I prefer a2sd from darktremor as well for its nice features. I'm just wondering what are the advantages performance wise by having all apps and dalvik cache on the sdcard other than the obvious gain of space on the phone.
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I think that it's just for space. Some say it's better to leave the dalvick on the phone but I really need the space so I move it anyway and it seems to work OK even on class 4.
What I'm not sure about is how Titanium backup treats the apps that have been moved... do they back up correctly or not? Right now I'm having problems with apps that I restored using Titanium backup (they won't update); but that's after moving to a different ROM than the one I used previously.
I'm also not sure why some programs still appear with the option to "Move to SD card" under manage applications. Shouldn't have they already been moved automatically by app2sdext?
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I think that it's just for space. Some say it's better to leave the dalvick on the phone but I really need the space so I move it anyway and it seems to work OK even on class 4.
What I'm not sure about is how Titanium backup treats the apps that have been moved... do they back up correctly or not? Right now I'm having problems with apps that I restored using Titanium backup (they won't update); but that's after moving to a different ROM than the one I used previously.
I'm also not sure why some programs still appear with the option to "Move to SD card" under manage applications. Shouldn't have they already been moved automatically by app2sdext?
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If I'm not mistaken, dt app2sdext works by fooling android that the ext partition is in fact the phone storage itself, hence why some apps show the option move to sd, android believes the apps are on main memory...
hope this helps!
Wayno-san said:
I think that it's just for space. Some say it's better to leave the dalvick on the phone but I really need the space so I move it anyway and it seems to work OK even on class 4.
What I'm not sure about is how Titanium backup treats the apps that have been moved... do they back up correctly or not? Right now I'm having problems with apps that I restored using Titanium backup (they won't update); but that's after moving to a different ROM than the one I used previously.
I'm also not sure why some programs still appear with the option to "Move to SD card" under manage applications. Shouldn't have they already been moved automatically by app2sdext?
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DTa2sd uses symlinks, so there is no ill effect on TB whatsoever. I have been running DTa2sd for a few months and I have nothing but good to say about it. I had one issue and it turned out to be user error (me being that user LOL.)
And for Honda, I can't quantify any impact on performance, but I unquestionably noticed a snappier performance and stability improvement after moving my dalvik to my cache partition, not to mention having almost 300 apps and still a ton of free space. As for being worth the trouble, I guess I would ask what trouble? The process was simple as can be, so yes, definitely it is worth the effort.
Also I disagree with the second post, I have a15GB class 2 and I'm still seeing benefits. Of course when I use the SD test app, it almost always shows up as a class 4 or 6. That could be a product of a2sd or MIUI as the same test shows class 2 on Evio2. YMMV
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And for Honda, I can't quantify any impact on performance, but I unquestionably noticed a snappier performance and stability improvement after moving my dalvik to my cache partition, not to mention having almost 300 apps and still a ton of free space. As for being worth the trouble, I guess I would ask what trouble? The process was simple as can be, so yes, definitely it is worth the effort.
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So you have a cache partition plus an ext partition on your Sd Card? If so, how big does the cache partition have to be for dalvik to fit?
I saw a number of comments NOT to create a cache partition on the SD card for done reason so I did not.
I re-flashed MikFroyo 4.5 AFTER setting up the EXT partition and it looks like everything got setup automatically this time around. It's been running great! The nice thing is that it doesn't screw up widgets like Froyo app2sd.
on miui all you have to do is format the sd card properly. The rom has the rest built in.
Will Apps2SD allow one to wipe and install a new ROM and not have to use Ti backup to reinstall all of the apps?
More than likely not, since many ROMS do not support dta2sd. I would just stick with TB since you can specifically restore the apps you need/want
It was my understanding that if under settings/applications, you don't 'move to sd' any apps, then by default dt a2sd will automatically install/move all apps to the ext3 partition (sd).
Conversely, if you restore an app using TI that was not originally moved to sd (using standard froyo apps2sd function), and if dt a2sd is still installed and configured for all apps to go to sd, then that app will be restored back to the dt a2sd on the ext3 partition.
Please read above carefully before responding.
So you have a cache partition plus an ext partition on your Sd Card? If so, how big does the cache partition have to be for dalvik to fit?
I saw a number of comments NOT to create a cache partition on the SD card
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No, have small swap and 960mb ext3. Once a2sd is on, use one of the dalvik move commands.
I know people are always recommending this or that on here (don't use havs, don't use sbc, clockwork is not thorough, don't move dalvik, blah, blah, blah). My stance is: nandroid and give it a go, but that's just me.
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Whether it's worth it or not is up to the individual. Everybody's gonna be a little different in how they use their phone. The sacrifice you're making is that reading from SD is slower than reading from internal memory. How much slower in real world situations? I honestly couldn't tell you, as I haven't actually tried it. I've found if I'm even getting close to running out of internal memory for apps, it means I've become an "app pack rat". So I simply clean house of all the stuff I downloaded cuz it seemed cool, but never actually used. Then again, I also don't have a ton of games, which are some of the largest apps. With a class 6 or 10 card, I'd imagine the difference would be minimal though, so if you need the room, and are willing to give up a little bit of speed, try it. You can always go back.
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Whether it's worth it or not is up to the individual. Everybody's gonna be a little different in how they use their phone. The sacrifice you're making is that reading from SD is slower than reading from internal memory. How much slower in real world situations? I honestly couldn't tell you, as I haven't actually tried it. I've found if I'm even getting close to running out of internal memory for apps, it means I've become an "app pack rat". So I simply clean house of all the stuff I downloaded cuz it seemed cool, but never actually used. Then again, I also don't have a ton of games, which are some of the largest apps. With a class 6 or 10 card, I'd imagine the difference would be minimal though, so if you need the room, and are willing to give up a little bit of speed, try it. You can always go back.
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Excellent commentary, a lot of common sense

[Q] Most stable and fluid ROM?

My HTC Desire is currently unrooted (I had it rooted once, but it started crashing all the time and the battery drainage was awfull..) but especially the limited capability of installing apps is getting on my nerves.
Since I ain't felling like trying around for weeks, I'd like to hear your opinion on which rom ist the most stable and fluid one.
So, my question is now, which rom is right now the most stable and fast?
From the looks I really liked the MIUI ROM I tried, but I also liked the cyanogen mod one.
Additionally: Is it usefull to change the kernel? If yes, which one and how am I supposed to do it?
-Nascor
Any ROM that is small, and fits into the internal memory.
Obviously if the ROM needs an ext partition it will be much slower.
So basically any AOSP ROM will satisfy you. (CM7, Oxygen, MIUI, dGB etc.)
k3lcior said:
Any ROM that is small, and fits into the internal memory.
Obviously if the ROM needs an ext partition it will be much slower.
So basically any AOSP ROM will satisfy you. (CM7, Oxygen, MIUI, dGB etc.)
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what do you mean by that, just ROMs which need an ext partition for "themselves" or also ones, which use it for apps?
Also, CM7 and MIUI started crashing pretty occasionally and often after a time...
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what do you mean by that, just ROMs which need an ext partition for "themselves" or also ones, which use it for apps?
Also, CM7 and MIUI started crashing pretty occasionally and often after a time...
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#1 Yes ROM's which use SD Card to store apps/system files will be always slower no matter what.
#2 Never had issues with either one so cant really help you, when does it happen?
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k3lcior said:
#1 Yes ROM's which use SD Card to store apps/system files will be always slower no matter what.
#2 Never had issues with either one so cant really help you, when does it happen?
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well, but that's the main reason for flashing, on the stock ROM I'm just able to have really few apps installed until the internal memory is full.
The crashes where most times completly random. Sometimes it just rebooted in my pocked, another time it froze on the lockscreen, and then it froze while using it. And after some time I got stock in a bootloop (on both ROMs)
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I like the overall look, does it run smooth and stable?
k3lcior said:
#1 Yes ROM's which use SD Card to store apps/system files will be always slower no matter what.
#2 Never had issues with either one so cant really help you, when does it happen?
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Using sd-ext doesn't mean that you'll get slower rom, as long as you have sd card with higher speed (class 6 or 10). You can try CM 7.2.0.1 from Proz0r's thread (with int2sd support) no difference with stock version trust me.
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Using sd-ext doesn't mean that you'll get slower rom, as long as you have sd card with higher speed (class 6 or 10). You can try CM 7.2.0.1 from Proz0r's thread (with int2sd support) no difference with stock version trust me.
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Keep fooling yourself, tested all a2sd scripts with Class 4, 6 and 10 SD Cards.
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Keep fooling yourself, tested all a2sd scripts with Class 4, 6 and 10 SD Cards.
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And what's the proof that you're right?
I've been using some scripts for a long time and I can tell you that if you're using right scripts on right way everything is perfect.
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And what's the proof that you're right?
I've been using some scripts for a long time and I can tell you that if you're using right scripts on right way everything is perfect.
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Yeah, then make a video when you're opening large application.
First with the app on internal memory, and then with the app+dalvik+data on SD and lets see.
k3lcior said:
Yeah, then make a video when you're opening large application.
First with the app on internal memory, and then with the app+dalvik+data on SD and lets see.
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Have you ever tried a2sdx script by Amarulz and int2sd method by Proz0r?
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So I should probably add: Which A2SD script or whatever should I use? The internal memory for apps is much too less...
Beside that, here are a few ROMs I looked into, what do you think, which one will fit my needs best (fast&stable)?
SUPERNOVA XTREME OFFICIAL
MARANGE MIUI
MOKEE OS
Oxygen ZM
Nikez Lente
Supernova if you want Sense, Oxygen if you prefer AOSP.
k3lcior said:
Supernova if you want Sense, Oxygen if you prefer AOSP.
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isn't oxygen a bit outdated now.
ryanraven said:
isn't oxygen a bit outdated now.
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Go with OxyZM1.2 or MildWild v4.3, both Oxygen based and very smooth n stable
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got OxyZM1.2 right now, I like it so far...just 2 quick questions:
How can I move whole apps to the ext4 partition on my SD card? I'm running pretty low on memory again...just like 30MB left...
I can also backup the login data of the stock email programm, so I don't have to reenter everything every time I install a new ROM, can't I?
by the way, what's the difference from OxyZM to MildWild?
Thanks for the answers till yet!
Hi,
My experience so far is very limited but:
CM7 is bullet proof, but my experience with using the app S2E to expand internal storage was variable.
One the one hand, you can just install anything you like and not worry about space (within reason)
Downside is after a few months use it was laggy as hell. It was taking 5 seconds to open up swiftkey.
Now, I've since tried the following:
BCM, a version of CM9/ICS for Desire. It's ludicrously fast and comes with a very nice built in script for using the sd card second partition as internal space.
It's still laggy, BUT I've now learnt how to align partitions correctly and that my SD card is badly aligned.
I've got the 4EXT recovery so once I've backed it all up I can re-partition the card correctly and see how much that improves things.
BCM's a2sd script (called Mounts2SD) also allows you to disable writing file times, good speed up from that too, I use it on my desktop PC's SSD.
So far though, BCM is chomping my poor battery, even when idle.
BCM benches about 50% faster than CM7 on AnTuTu (3000 vs 2000)
It's noticeably smoother for UI interactions, my one 3D game (Monopoly) it also noticeably smoother (higher frame rate)
So, I've got to now fix the battery drain and repartition the card and then my good old Desire is all good.
There's also something called Supercharger V6 which bodes well, unless all it's tweaks are already in CM7/9/BCM.
J.
not alot between the 2 really. download attached file and put on ur sdcard, boot into recovery and flash it (install from sdcard) this will give ya more space
RoboJ1M said:
Hi,
My experience so far is very limited but:
CM7 is bullet proof, but my experience with using the app S2E to expand internal storage was variable.
One the one hand, you can just install anything you like and not worry about space (within reason)
Downside is after a few months use it was laggy as hell. It was taking 5 seconds to open up swiftkey.
Now, I've since tried the following:
BCM, a version of CM9/ICS for Desire. It's ludicrously fast and comes with a very nice built in script for using the sd card second partition as internal space.
It's still laggy, BUT I've now learnt how to align partitions correctly and that my SD card is badly aligned.
I've got the 4EXT recovery so once I've backed it all up I can re-partition the card correctly and see how much that improves things.
BCM's a2sd script (called Mounts2SD) also allows you to disable writing file times, good speed up from that too, I use it on my desktop PC's SSD.
So far though, BCM is chomping my poor battery, even when idle.
BCM benches about 50% faster than CM7 on AnTuTu (3000 vs 2000)
It's noticeably smoother for UI interactions, my one 3D game (Monopoly) it also noticeably smoother (higher frame rate)
So, I've got to now fix the battery drain and repartition the card and then my good old Desire is all good.
There's also something called Supercharger V6 which bodes well, unless all it's tweaks are already in CM7/9/BCM.
J.
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hes looking for most stable rom lol also antutu scores are pointless and mean jack s*** imho
Benchmark scores mean nothing, just a bunch of useless information that are not right. Usually all roms that I used and had big scores on benchmark apps were running much slower then the ones with lower scores. As you all can see and try roms with swap support get much higher scores but doesn't run nor smoother nor better.
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