This is a long post, but worth the read if your a phone geek.
With all the hype about the new Verizon iPhone4, I am a phone whore, like to upgrade to a new phone every 12 months or so. I have been with Android since the Nexus-One, and loved it, then bought the EVO 4G last Summer, and fell in love even more, but got bored with it.
Anyways I am open minded to the iPhone, my first smartphone was the iPhone3G. And my Brother has an iPhone4 on ATT for me to play with. After having some sit down time with the iPhone4 compared to my EVO, here are my comments; sure the iPhone has a wicked screen resolution, very sharp and crisp and good colors, and the UI is super fluid and smooth, the overall phone feels very snappy and fast.
But to be honest that is about it. #1 the screen is way too small for me, looking at a webpage on both phones, the EVO had a good amount of the page up, where the iPhone needed to be scrolled left and right to read it, feels like a wristwatch size screen now. And the size of the iPhone, everyone says how it is so much smaller and easier to carry in pocket than the "brick" the EVO is. Bull ****, thickness wise, they both seemed almost the same, we both have cases on our phones, and they felt very close in thickness. And weight, the iPhone is not light like a Samsung Galaxy-S, it is heavy, and felt pretty close in weight to the EVO. It is just the width and height the EVO is larger, but by no means night and day different like the Apple complain about.
And now that I rooted my EVO recently, and installed "Myn's" ROM with a lot of transparent menus and apps, my EVO looks so unique and cool, and with this ROM, the phone is very smooth as flowing water, super fast, with even better battery life. But I also bought a 1750mhz Japanese made battery, not much larger, but seems to hold the charge longer, and it charges up much faster than the stock battery. So I can get by the whole day now, never could before.
Overall I feel the EVO 4G once rooted with a good ROM become a mini laptop or small computer in my hand. And the iPhone4 feels like a Fischer Price toy, not to be rude, it just feels and looks so cute and small, with the little bubble apps, and all. I can now see why I see so many women with the iPhone more than ever. I see tons of Moms and older chicks with the iPhone. And the tech geeks that like to mess around and have a different and unique phone have moved on the higher end Android devices.
But this is just my opinion, I am sure many disagree. I am happy there is an iPhone around, will make Google stay on their toes, and keep coming up with fresh and good ideas for Android. And I hope the iPhone5 is kick butt, they need to just do 3 things to make that phone really bad ass. #1 A larger 4" screen. #2 Add Widgets to iOS. #3 Add Notification system to iOS.
If Apple makes those changes to the next iPhone, I would seriously think about going back. But as it is now, just too tiny and a cute toy, not for me I stay with my custom EVO. And if there is an EVO2 this Summer, with dual core, better battery, and better screen technology, and running the latest Android OS, and new Sense UI, that will be hard to pass up.
+1, I agree
My friend absolutely loves his iPhone 4. I agree with him that it's the best phone for him... for one reason: it simply works. He doesn't like to tinker with his phone. He wants it to simply work right out of the box and he accepts the way it works. I prefer to tinker and make it work the way I want it to bloody work. If you tinker, use Android. If you accept the limitations of your device, use iOS.
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My friend absolutely loves his iPhone 4. I agree with him that it's the best phone for him... for one reason: it simply works. He doesn't like to tinker with his phone. He wants it to simply work right out of the box and he accepts the way it works. I prefer to tinker and make it work the way I want it to bloody work. If you tinker, use Android. If you accept the limitations of your device, use iOS.
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I agree. The iPhone is the "dumb" smartphone, not to be rude, but for people that just want to hit the apps and that's it. They look at Android as some buggy, laggy, wannabe iPhone copy, that sucks. I look at it like a custom built gaming PC rig, optimized for the way each person likes it, and the iPhone is the standard BestBuy computer, it works, but that's it.
I also think a lot of iPhone users that have tried Android did so on crappy phones like MyTouch3G, or low end Droids, and that is a rough experience, and will make you run back to iPhone. Now lest see them try an EVO or Nexus that is rooted with good ROM's I bet they may like it then.
Oh well, my main beef is the tiny screen, 3.5" is just way too small. And the iPhone for sure needs to be jailbreaked to be fun and unique. But that screen is a deal breaker for me, like a wristwatch.
If there was an iPhone with a 4" or larger screen, and could be jailbreaked, that would be very tempting to me.
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If there was an iPhone with a 4" or larger screen, and could be jailbreaked, that would be very tempting to me.
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This right here, if only for the gaming. Since getting my iPad, I have seen a TON of iOS games that I would love to have on my Evo, but unfortunately they arent available on Android and there's no way the Evo can handle them. The iPhone has a ridiculous amount of seriously high quality games, and that makes me a little jealous, tbqh.
Another bonus the iPhone has is battery life. I failed to mention that because it's a given. Apple always wins on battery life. However, I have three batteries that are user replaceable. Take that, Apple.
Lmao the tittle got me I hVe had ever iphone they all suck I have had a ton of androids there great including the epic 4g and the big daddy evo my fav which I had to let go now I got the galaxy tab and love it I really love the old g1 better then the iphone 4android is a beast and will be here for ever honeycomb is whats gonna make iphone users drop lol just the iphone drops call but evo drops jaws hahaha
How come all this iphone users are like oh that android looks kewl oh thats the stuff oh thats so good but at the end there like iphone wins I can onr click jailbreak but im to dumb to root
I really think thats the main reason iphone users wont switch bc there to dumb to not know how to read and just want a simple click
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Here is a pic of my home screen, nothing too different than stock, I like to keep it clean and simple. But would like to know how to get transparent app icons names ? Right now they have the black bubble under each app, is there a way to not have that black border, and just the white icon name only ?
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Here is a pic of my home screen, nothing too different than stock, I like to keep it clean and simple.
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Elk Grove Village? Howdy, neighbor!
Zorachus said:
Here is a pic of my home screen, nothing too different than stock, I like to keep it clean and simple. But would like to know how to get transparent app icons names ? Right now they have the black bubble under each app, is there a way to not have that black border, and just the white icon name only ?
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Dont know if theres a way to do it without making your own icons... If you're so inclined you can just download the stock icons and make your own text at the bottom with a transparent background.. then just select to not show labels on icons in your settings and there ya go... I've done some like that and they look alright I just like to have no words on them...
Oh, by the way, you may want to post this to the Q&A section... or maybe themes and apps... just FYI
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Dont know if theres a way to do it without making your own icons... If you're so inclined you can just download the stock icons and make your own text at the bottom with a transparent background.. then just select to not show labels on icons in your settings and there ya go... I've done some like that and they look alright I just like to have no words on them...
Oh, by the way, you may want to post this to the Q&A section... or maybe themes and apps... just FYI
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Try using desktop visulizer it has some options like that
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Launcherpro and adw both have the ability to get rid of the shade behind the icon names, but they are completely different launchers than sense's rosie launcher so you won't be able to use sense widgets.
You're preaching to the choir here! You should go post that on an iphone forum.
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Elk Grove Village? Howdy, neighbor!
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Howdy neighbor's and Evo rules!
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I've been trying to convince the fiancee since day one. she doesn't see the point of the evo. "My iphone works just fine. There's nothing wrong with it, why do i need a new phone??" needless to say, i like to tinker and get 110% out of my devices, she just wants a phone that works.
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.. bought a 1750mhz Japanese made battery...
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In oriental Japan, batteries are measured in MHz
I like the iPhone 4, it's a cool looking phone no doubt, the screen is bright and nice, but I get bored with them, I like to customize **** so that's why I got an Evo.
Good thing it's on verizon now, so now maybe people can actually make phone calls without dropping bars or losing the call, I don't hate Apple, I hate att
Apple stores/employee's/customers just looks like a big cult to me, like when I step into an Apple store I feel really out of place, mostly hipster kids and nerds are in there.
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Okay so don't nobody want to talk about what they don't like... Well here's mines comparing it to the epic 4g
The phone (4G touch) is the coldest out, just want to put that out there.
The graphics or camera don't meet the expectations as a part2 of this phone.
that's the only thing I can say thats wrong with this phone...
I'm not trolling, just giving my opinion.
Just got the phone today so don't cuss me out because I said this.
But still again I'm still playing with it.
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Graphics or camera?!?
I think you nedx to play nova 2 hd and take a few 1080p videos and then check back in....
The camera is the best I seen on a phone (in person)
And graphics are amazing... Better than any dual core phone imo
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trow-uhllllll
Aside from the fact that when I read OP I was all like "what is this I don't even", if we are to assume that he intends to take exception with the "graphics or camera" I must profess, with as stiff an upper lip as I can muster, that I would prefer he were to GTFO with his trolling.
If by some peculiar stretch of the internet's good will OP has truly spoken with veracity of his mind and thoughts, well, I think it goes without saying that the sooner his opinion be disregarded the better.
I've never seen a better cellphone camera, hands down, ever. I'm pretty blown away. So far as "graphics" are concerned--as vacuous as such a statement is--we'll assume he means anything to do with 3D graphic rendering and/or reproduction. Also the finest performance I've ever seen on a cell phone. Sure, it isn't qHD, but if that is a surprise to you it would suit you well to stop purchasing bleeding edge smartphones without knowing what the hell you are talking about.
The bad:
Supplies charging cable too short.
I guess no phone can be perfect
My dislike is the screen wake lagg, and which will just doubtedly be fixed in a rom or kernel and it won't make me any food??? I'm waiting though..
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I just wish this phone was able to make me a sammich and get me a beer.
The camera is pretty sweet, though the Epic was good too. (My N8 smashes it, but then again that's that phone's main selling point.)
I haven't used it long enough to check out the radios, but it seems like Samsung pulled it together.
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I agree - the bad being the shortest charging cable I've ever seen! Barely reaches the top of the nightstand...
Fortunately easily solved on Amazon - actual Samsung branded car charger cord for $4, home charger with longer cord for $6, $1.50 for a longer Samsung USB cable...
I was also disappointed that it didn't come with a micro SD card. My buddy's DroidX I think has 16gb onboard, and came with a 16gb card too. To me, 16gb onboard is more than I need, but for a "superphone" dolled up with all these extras and details, figured they wouldn't go cheap on the power cord and no SD card.
I'm only partly disappointed that the screen resolution isn't 960x540 like the Bionic and a few others. It's not really any disadvantage, and I'd easily pick the rich colors and ridiculously black blacks over a higher res anyday - so much easier on the eyes. But mostly on principal - I'm still shaking my head that the iPhone 4 has been out so long, and it should have been 3 weeks (I'm exaggerating) before other phones came out with screens of either similar pixel density or resolution. It's not rocket science, and Apple does all their manufacturing through contract manufacturers for this stuff... a true OEM like Samsung should be able to nail that one pretty easily, right?
Also saw some GPS numbers on another thread that showed only ho-hum GPS reception... the comparison phone walked all over it. But (to stay positive), if there was a radio/antenna to skimp out on, I'm glad it was this one.
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The bad:
Supplies charging cable too short.
I guess no phone can be perfect
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haha seriously. I unraveled it and looked in the box for the rest of it.
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haha seriously. I unraveled it and looked in the box for the rest of it.
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Lmfao me too!!!
I much prefer this phone over my 3D for many reasons. I can't think of an existing phone I'd rather have but I will say
The EVO 3D got better data speeds for me - that is based on regular test in the same location.
I prefer sense but that is a matter of opinion.
This thing seems to take longer to charge than any phone I've had using the AD charger.
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trow-uhllllll
Aside from the fact that when I read OP I was all like "what is this I don't even", if we are to assume that he intends to take exception with the "graphics or camera" I must profess, with as stiff an upper lip as I can muster, that I would prefer he were to GTFO with his trolling.
If by some peculiar stretch of the internet's good will OP has truly spoken with veracity of his mind and thoughts, well, I think it goes without saying that the sooner his opinion be disregarded the better.
I've never seen a better cellphone camera, hands down, ever. I'm pretty blown away. So far as "graphics" are concerned--as vacuous as such a statement is--we'll assume he means anything to do with 3D graphic rendering and/or reproduction. Also the finest performance I've ever seen on a cell phone. Sure, it isn't qHD, but if that is a surprise to you it would suit you well to stop purchasing bleeding edge smartphones without knowing what the hell you are talking about.
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I ****ing HOWLED as I read this. So funny because it's so true.
I picture the guy typing this as Brad Neely's BabyCakes.
Lmao.
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bobbywat said:
Okay so don't nobody want to talk about what they don't like... Well here's mines comparing it to the epic 4g
The phone (4G touch) is the coldest out, just want to put that out there.
The graphics or camera don't meet the expectations as a part2 of this phone.
that's the only thing I can say ttys wrong with this phone...
I'm not trolling, just giving my opinion.
Just got the phone today so don't cuss me out becauseI said this.
But still again I'm still playing with it.
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I don't like that USB Host is disabled and wifi only does'nt do infrastructure.
The bad would be battery life for me anyway and closing of games while playing
WOW... You guy's are hard, I said I wasn't Trolling but whatever.
I took a picture with my old Epic and then my wife took the same pic with her Nexes 4G and I compared all pic's and the Epic 4G and Nexes 4g had better pic quality than my new Epic 4G touch.
But that's not a deal breaker I still love the phone.
And the charger cord is to short ( LOL ) But I have a lot of them around the house.
Well enough about this... TIME TO ROOT THIS BABY!
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The bad:
Supplies charging cable too short.
I guess no phone can be perfect
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I don't like that USB Host is disabled and wifi only does'nt do infrastructure.
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Agreed!
My only other complaint is the phone doesn't store my screen timeout settings through reboot nor my contact shortcuts using buddy now. After every boot I have to change this again. It is a bit frustrating. Anyone else having that issue? Other than these mentioned things the phone is amazing and I will have a hard time getting anything else for quite some time I think.
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WOW... You guy's are hard, I said I wasn't Trolling but whatever.
I took a picture with my old Epic and then my wife took the same pic with her Nexes 4G and I compared all pic's and the Epic 4G and Nexes 4g had better pic quality than my new Epic 4G touch.
But that's not a deal breaker I still love the phone.
And the charger cord is to short ( LOL ) But I have a lot of them around the house.
Well enough about this... TIME TO ROOT THIS BABY!
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People are going to assume trolling when they read your original post and go... English MFer! Do you speak it?!?!?!
No one seriously wants to decipher the gibberish you spewed. I, personally, am still confused about your point.
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I much prefer this phone over my 3D for many reasons. I can't think of an existing phone I'd rather have but I will say
The EVO 3D got better data speeds for me - that is based on regular test in the same location.
I prefer sense but that is a matter of opinion.
This thing seems to take longer to charge than any phone I've had using the AD charger.
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I agree I love this phone but the data speeds are a little low. I got with full bars of 4g on my evo 3d 2200 kbs and on my epic touch I am lucky to get 1100 kbs that is the main thing I see wrong or that I dont like about this phone. But that can be easily fixed with a radio update like they did on the 3d.
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I was a little disappointed that the E4GT will not walk my dog for me. I hear the new quad core phones coming out in Q1 2012 will and I can't wait for that. Other than that, this phone blows away anything else I have had....and I have had them all......
Most of us have had that encounter, usually with someone holding an iPhone. They say their phone is better but of course we know it's not.
So how do you show off your phone? What is it that you do to wow people and make the hipsters cry?
My wife owned an iPhone at one point. It pretty much did the work for me by pissing her off and losing her music from her CD's she put on it after syncing with iTunes. I showed her Google Music, the cloud, the ways I could customize it, and how my maps and navigation worked flawlessly as a native app - unlike her iPhone.
I just use the iphone launcher whenever i see them using their iphone and say hey look i have an iphone too. Then i go to the yahoo and play a flash video. Then i tell them that my iphone is better then their.
After that i get their iphone and smash it on the ground
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I press the back button the home button the menu button and search button (i hate the one button on iphone)
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Majin: So true the 1 button sucks
You can do face unlock, Google Music, show them a sexy theme, video chat on mobile data, and with phones like the galaxy nexus use nfc and google wallet at the check out. James Bond bad assness with Google wallet.
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There's no impressing the iPhone hipsters.
I show them how rich my screen is compared to theirs, and then I start tethering to a wifi device.
I left android to get a 4S and then I saw the light last week and came back to android with one of the best phones made.
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I show them how rich my screen is compared to theirs, and then I start tethering to a wifi device.
I left android to get a 4S and then I saw the light last week and came back to android with one of the best phones made.
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You better change your avatar.
Nothing. I just give them my device and tell them to have a look. Most people just like to look at the widgets.
I just pull it out my pocket, unlock the screen and let the live wallpapers + customizations do the talking. Once they all into my phone saying I wish my phone could do live wallpapers I start doing other things they can't with their iPhone. I used the dlna feature on a family members tv and she was showing it off to her man (both have iPhones) and then hooked it up by mhl to mirror the whole phone to really impress. Few days later her man came home with my phone the att variant n gave her his 4s. She really wanted this phone and went as far as saying I should've never showed him lol
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...get their iphone and smash it on the ground
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Damn, you beat me to it.
Also, if I want to impress someone, I don't mention Google Music; I haven't had good results with it.
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Most of us have had that encounter, usually with someone holding an iPhone. They say their phone is better but of course we know it's not.
So how do you show off your phone? What is it that you do to wow people and make the hipsters cry?
My wife owned an iPhone at one point. It pretty much did the work for me by pissing her off and losing her music from her CD's she put on it after syncing with iTunes. I showed her Google Music, the cloud, the ways I could customize it, and how my maps and navigation worked flawlessly as a native app - unlike her iPhone.
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If your on a custom rom that's is able to use theme Chooser like paranoid android then just switch themes endlessly with out a reboot and stuff. Use screencast to record your screen. If they smoke weed like me use roll a joint, that's an app iPhone will never see lol. Adjust your dpi using rom toolbox. All that iPhone users have that I want and continue to hate on is their library of games they got almost all the good ones, rage, CALL OF DUTY ZOMBIES! Need I say more I hate them for the games! If we get those games also android will be the shiit lol
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Normally just the size, brightness and texture to the screen, a simple unlock to a live wallpaper and a text with swype does it.. Not to mention the arrangeable homescreen.
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I just converted 1 this weekend,she is with garbage AT&T but she still got there version of our phone.(side note she actually cried after realizing how bad her iphone 4s is,she felt stupid)
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I just converted 1 this weekend,she is with garbage AT&T but she still got there version of our phone.(side note she actually cried after realizing how bad her iphone 4s is,she felt stupid)
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1 down more stupid ppl to convert! Slowly but we are making progress lol
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yeah it was obvious to me,after i showed her nova launcher and the paranoid android video she slammed her crown and ginger ale,then we went to the store to grab it.rooted rommed and slammed in 25 minutes,she wants me to show her how to theme now,also she is now on xda...i feel my job is done.
It's just a phone, who cares. I didn't buy this phone to upstage iPhone fans, and I didn't buy it because I have a dislike of Apple products. I bought it because it is the best device for me. If someone asks me about it, I'll tell them what they want to know and why I like it better. 99% of my friends have some variation of the iPhone, and they are very happy with it. In fact, 2 of them still bought the iPhone after playing with my phone. And no amount of widgets or live wallpapers, or face unlock, or whatever else Android has that iOS doesn't will change their outlook. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: not a single android device manufacturer puts out a product that is as polished as the iPhone, and even android 4.0 is not as polished as iOS. That's why my phone is not winning any converts, despite the fact that's it can do much more. I'm no iPhone fan, but that's the truth.
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It's just a phone, who cares. I didn't buy this phone to upstage iPhone fans, and I didn't buy it because I have a dislike of Apple products. I bought it because it is the best device for me. If someone asks me about it, I'll tell them what they want to know and why I like it better. 99% of my friends have some variation of the iPhone, and they are very happy with it. In fact, 2 of them still bought the iPhone after playing with my phone. And no amount of widgets or live wallpapers, or face unlock, or whatever else Android has that iOS doesn't will change their outlook. If you want to know why, the answer is simple: not a single android device manufacturer puts out a product that is as polished as the iPhone, and even android 4.0 is not as polished as iOS. That's why my phone is not winning any converts, despite the fact that's it can do much more. I'm no iPhone fan, but that's the truth.
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Polished I think not!!! You got one because "99% of my friend has some variations of the iphone" ??? Wtf and you have been the 1% that has a better phone just drop the same amount of cash as you would for an iPhone and get a High-end android phone and get the real android experience when root that High-end Android phone! They are late to everything dual core, 4g(some) and real multitasking features not to mention a home button, menu, and ITS OWN BACK BUTTON!!! Need I say more lol:beer:
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Polished I think not!!! You got one because "99% of my friend has some variations of the iphone" ??? Wtf and you have been the 1% that has a better phone just drop the same amount of cash as you would for an iPhone and get a High-end android phone and get the real android experience when root that High-end Android phone! They are late to everything dual core, 4g(some) and real multitasking features not to mention a home button, menu, and ITS OWN BACK BUTTON!!! Need I say more lol:beer:
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Perhaps you should lay off the weed, because it is clearly clouding your judgement and reading comprehension skills. I have the E4GT and had the Evo 4G before that. Nowhere in my post did I state or imply that I have an iphone. I never had an iPhone and don't want an iPhone. Why do you think I'm in this forum? My post was making the point that the vast majority of people with iphones love their device, and 2 of my friends who played with my E4GT still went with the iphone. And my phone is rooted with a custom kernel, so it actually performs better than the E4GT out of the box. As to my belief regarding why, you can re-read my post. And yes, every time I use an iPhone or iPad, I am always impressed by the smoothness of the UI and the speed of the device, so it is in fact more polished. I also have the quad-core Asus Transformer Prime, which I wish I never bought as it is an underperforming, buggy piece of crap, and you can read all about it in it's section on this board. Want to know why people dump Android for iOS, go out and buy the Prime, try to use it, and you'll have your answer in 5 mins. And I don't blame Android, I blame lazy manufacturers who slap an unoptimized kernel and OS onto cutting edge hardware, fill it with bloat, and then release the product without apparently doing something as simple as trying to access the internet with it, just to do a basic quality control. If I sound angry, it's because I am. With Android, it always seems to be a crap shoot. You can get lucky and stumble on a good device such as the E4GT, or you can spend money on the most bleeding-edge device, and be left with a device that has trouble displaying a powerpoint presentation. Now put yourself in my position; do you really think that I would be more unhappy with the iPad than I am with the Prime? If the iPad at the very least works without the browser crashing randomly and often, then the iPad is already better. Yes, IMO the E4GT is better than an iPhone, but the iPad is much better than the Prime, and it has half the hardware. Don't be a fanboy.
Agreed. Brand loyalty only hinders progress. User experience is a subjective thing, there is no definitely better answer. I know plenty of people who've "converted" to and from both "sides".
I currently own a T-Mobile G2x and plan on picking this baby up in a few days from the playstore.
A friend of mine showed me his and I completely fell in love with the screen. I'm also hopeful about the updates being pushed by Google for another year or so.
With that said, is this phone still worth getting with other devices already out like the ONE series and Samsung's S3?
I was intially going to purchase a HTC One S, but can't bring myself to do such a big gamble because of all the hardware and software issues I've read about.
for all that is holy and right, god yes.
i could ramble on what rocks about this phone, but ill keep it small.
its a nexus, so direct updates from google. Large dev community. freaking beautiful screen and physical phone dimensions. oh did i mention kick ass software and dev community
i came from the sprint epic 4g and they were doin some crazy stuff with that phone. with the nexus, i hope to see some awesome stuff.
again so much to put into words. the nexus is worth every cent
I got mine yesterday. Short and sweet, yes!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719198
tl;dr: yes
I'm a former G2x owner, and the Galaxy Nexus blows the G2x away in every aspect. Not only that, it's hell of a lot more stable.
Do it. It's totally worth it.
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fredryk said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719198
tl;dr: yes
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This one too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673845
if i can pick again, no thanks.
Its two issues that keep this or any nexus phone on top
1- direct (fast & unbloated/restrected) updates
2- a huge development base (other phones may have big dev bases, but they cant even compare)
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Yes. Good phone.
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Of course it's still worth buying. This is still the best Android phone out there. Galaxy S3 and One X may both be faster, but if you're a casual developer or tech guy, then Galaxy Nexus is the best you can get in terms of software.
Quad-core is overrated on phones and I don't like Galaxy S3's hardware decisions (the hardware keys). Galaxy Nexus has on-screen keys, which are just amazing, I could not go back to a phone without them. I don't like the bells and whistles of Galaxy S3 and One X either (which won't be a problem if you root of course). Their usability features are an overkill and don't work at all times.
Since Galaxy Nexus does come with the best version of Android - native, non-bloated one - and has very good hardware to run anything you throw at it today, then yes, it's the phone to get and the one I've suggested to fellow developers. One of the young developers I know bought it just last week and is loving it.
As everyone else had already mentioned, yes, do it - you won't regret it. I've had mine only a month now and it's freaking amazing. Fast and unbloated, beautiful screen, effortless to root, great battery life.
Best of all we will be first to get jellybean, my friend with the sgs 3 will be on ics until sometime next year. Hehe.
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Due to battery and reception/4G issues
I would say no, if i were to start over this minute... I would get a Razor Maxx over this.
I think a new phone of this caliber and price range should ROCK right out the gate and that the modding community should only (need to) make it even better... in this case it takes the modding to make it close to right with still spotty reception and CRAPPY battery life.
Is the screen beautiful... is the phone fast and with rooting and a lot of extra software does it get the job done? Yes.
But so does the RMaxx without the radio issues and it has boat loads of battery.
I would much rather have a few less bells and whistles of a newer OS and have battery life & radio reliability. I feel the bells and whistles are a lot easier to add on later than the other way around.
I like the phone... don't flame me please... but it has shortcomings
I get excellent battery life... i have never had any issues with the radio either.
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I'm hopefully buying one tonight, coming from a HTC Sensation, can't wait!
veloslave said:
I would say no, if i were to start over this minute... I would get a Razor Maxx over this.
I think a new phone of this caliber and price range should ROCK right out the gate and that the modding community should only (need to) make it even better... in this case it takes the modding to make it close to right with still spotty reception and CRAPPY battery life.
Is the screen beautiful... is the phone fast and with rooting and a lot of extra software does it get the job done? Yes.
But so does the RMaxx without the radio issues and it has boat loads of battery.
I would much rather have a few less bells and whistles of a newer OS and have battery life & radio reliability. I feel the bells and whistles are a lot easier to add on later than the other way around.
I like the phone... don't flame me please... but it has shortcomings
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Ahh you have the LTE version huh? Quite a few people seem not so happy with that one. However the GSM doesn't have as many issues as the LTE seems to..
I would say do it as well man. It's a much much better device than the G2x and you'll really enjoy it.
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Personally, I wouldn't get the Motorola. I'm a developer, and it's giving us a ridiculous amount of trouble when compared to the GS2 or the Nexus.
The nexus is a great terminal, and since they lowered the prices it's hard to beat in the quality/cost ratio.
zeke1988 said:
if i can pick again, no thanks.
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veloslave said:
I would say no, if i were to start over this minute... I would get a Razor Maxx over this.
I think a new phone of this caliber and price range should ROCK right out the gate and that the modding community should only (need to) make it even better... in this case it takes the modding to make it close to right with still spotty reception and CRAPPY battery life.
Is the screen beautiful... is the phone fast and with rooting and a lot of extra software does it get the job done? Yes.
But so does the RMaxx without the radio issues and it has boat loads of battery.
I would much rather have a few less bells and whistles of a newer OS and have battery life & radio reliability. I feel the bells and whistles are a lot easier to add on later than the other way around.
I like the phone... don't flame me please... but it has shortcomings
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As you'll see, a vast majority of the people saying "don't get it" are those with the Verizon LTE version.
To be blunt, the CDMA version of any nexus is going to be an afterthought.
Moreover, LTE is a battery-drain in comparison to UMTS/HSPA+.
If you get the Galaxy Nexus, get the HSPA+ one from the Google Play Store.
I currently have the LTE version of the Galaxy Nexus. Does my battery tend to get drained fast? Yea, although most of the time it's not an issue, I work in an office where I get to keep it plugged in most of the time. If I am planning on being out all day I always keep an extra battery, it's really not that difficult to carry one.
Does my signal tend to suck? Yea, sort of. I hardly ever make calls so I can't really notice there, although I do tend to get a lot of dropped calls but i never know which side they are coming from. My data is amazingly fast when it works right but too many times it says 4G but nothing is going on, so I have to turn the data off and back on to get it working again.
With all that said, I've had this phone since December and I still absolutely LOVE this phone! I still look at the screen and think "wow that's cool". I still show it off to people, I still love using it to pay with Google Wallet.
However, I have recently decided to get rid of it. I will be giving it to my friend, because I just ordered the GSM one from the Google Play store! I'm so sick and tired of Verizon so I want to try the whole prepaid services thing till I find something that works best for me with a service that doesn't treat me like I'm trying to steal from them because I have the unlimited data package THEY gladly offered me years ago. What ever happened to treating older customers better??
There are a few of us that jumped ship from the G2x here now, I don't think we made the wrong choice.
Plus we'll be getting Jelly Bean soon!
Just like you, I think the screen got me. That and stable ICS. I loved my G2x but after hanging around my friends with 4.3 or 4.5inch screens... I felt... inadequate...
Haha, just kidding, but I did want a bigger screen. I'm really happy with this phone now and I think I will be for a while.
kristovaher said:
Of course it's still worth buying. This is still the best Android phone out there. Galaxy S3 and One X may both be faster, but if you're a casual developer or tech guy, then Galaxy Nexus is the best you can get in terms of software.
Quad-core is overrated on phones and I don't like Galaxy S3's hardware decisions (the hardware keys). Galaxy Nexus has on-screen keys, which are just amazing, I could not go back to a phone without them. I don't like the bells and whistles of Galaxy S3 and One X either (which won't be a problem if you root of course). Their usability features are an overkill and don't work at all times.
Since Galaxy Nexus does come with the best version of Android - native, non-bloated one - and has very good hardware to run anything you throw at it today, then yes, it's the phone to get and the one I've suggested to fellow developers. One of the young developers I know bought it just last week and is loving it.
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Software keys to me are a waste of screen real estate. There is no advantage to having them. I remove them and use LMT because I want the extra screen space. Using LMT is not as quick as having the buttons there but worth the sacrifice.
The GNEX has the space at the bottom of the device to fit keys there and I wish they would have or added them as well and given the choice to use on which one we want to use.
It's true. After two months, I sold my Samsung Galaxy S III, AT&T branded, blue, shiny, and beautiful. Why did I do it?
This excellent Chicago Sun-Times article may offer an explanation: Android vs iOS Sun-Times article.
It's a good article by Andy Ihnatko. Just as Andy, I too cheated on my iPhone with the Samsung Galaxy S III. And it was not a one-time transgression, it was a full-blown two-month affair.
In the end, I went back to my iPhone. All other reasons aside, I had one -- the iPhone is just more reliable. Yep, I said it. In the age of innovation, I choose that. But for me, someone who uses the device very heavily for talk, text, email, calendar, news, boarding passes, and everything around it, the consistency and reliability matter a great deal.
I agree with Andy on most points, with a few exceptions. The screen is the first. Yes, the SIII screen is large and beautiful, as are many of the SIII Android brethren. However, I found that the SIII screen was just not as bright, not as easy to see outside, and the auto-brightness was just not as seamless. Not only that, the SIII (and this is a Samsung thing), display seems a bit pixelated despite the high resolution. It's the "pentile matrix" thing. Whatever it is, it bothered me.
The form factor is the second issue -- and is related to the screen. I don't have large hands, so if Andy had to two-hand the SIII, I certainly did too. And while I appreciated the extra real estate, it was infuriating not being able to reach the top left with my thumb. I frequently found myself holding the phone in awkward ways, wishing I had a freakishly long thumb. I felt that something between the iPhone's 3.5 and SIII's 4.8 would be a perfect compromise. But the SIII was just a tad too big.
The replaceable battery... I like that too. You know what I like even better? Not needing to replace it. The SIII just didn't last as long as the iPhone on a single charge. Not even close. I can squeeze a solid 12 hours out of the iPhone with my heavy use. The SIII died in 8. And so I bought an extra battery, and a desktop charger, and was quite proud of myself. But I wish I didn't have too.
Ergonomics. Yes, I love the back button. And the menu button. But try to hold the phone sideways to watch a movie and see if you hit one of those by accident. Again. And again. Or put the phone on the side in a car to use as a (stellar) navigation unit, and accidentally hit the power button. Or the sensitive volume rocker. Oh, and let's adjust the volume. Wait, which of the 3 volume sliders should I be adjusting? I forget.
I do miss the S III. There are times I wish I still had it. It was a passionate affair, and it was fun. But the S III mistress proved too high maintenance in the end, a bit unrefined at the cocktail parties, and a bit too wild for business gatherings. But I think we may see each other again.
In the meantime, I thought I'd keep things interesting. And so I started cheating on my iPad with a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. It's the first few weeks, too early to tell. Either you or my therapist will know how it ends.
Cool story bro
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Hmmm seems like you can not wait for some kind of announcement from cupertino tomorrow...Nice story anyways
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TLDR
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Yawn
There's only one reason that the ability to hold the device in one hand and profeciently use it would come in handy, and for that reason I've seem many automobile trunks end up in the front seat and many single handed users end up in cemeteries. ....
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I wonder if the larger screen will demand more power, hence more consumption, yet to be seen. Unless Apple has found a better way to conserve power on a processor they use that is made by Sammie, seems the something in the speed department will suffer
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well this is a no Brainer..... you use a Iphone for months, and of course your more tuned towards the Iphone... hurdurrrr
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I used iphone 2008 to 2010, at the time the hardware was the best, now in 2012 not so much, I probably couldn't go back to dealing with itunes and small screen anymore.
Well that was pointless.
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I have had every iPhone and every galaxy phone. I'll can say I can hold the s3 with one hand and do what I need. I rather have my android then use my iphones.
Hold on. Let me get this straight. You took all the time to write out your OP but you failed to be able to read? This is an android forum dude. I know you can read because you can write. So what part of the Android development part of this website did you not comprehend? You should go post this in some iPhone forum or website. Get your checkbook out first though.
There must be something to the S3 because the Rotten Apple Heads feel a need to justify owning iphones. Can the Steve mojo live forever? Everyone I know who has tried android loves it. Once you go droid, the apple is void.
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cya later....have fun with your iPhone 4S+ announcement tomorrow..........
meanvulcan said:
It's true. After two months, I sold my Samsung Galaxy S III, AT&T branded, blue, shiny, and beautiful. Why did I do it?
This excellent Chicago Sun-Times article may offer an explanation: Android vs iOS Sun-Times article.
It's a good article by Andy Ihnatko. Just as Andy, I too cheated on my iPhone with the Samsung Galaxy S III. And it was not a one-time transgression, it was a full-blown two-month affair.
In the end, I went back to my iPhone. All other reasons aside, I had one -- the iPhone is just more reliable. Yep, I said it. In the age of innovation, I choose that. But for me, someone who uses the device very heavily for talk, text, email, calendar, news, boarding passes, and everything around it, the consistency and reliability matter a great deal.
I agree with Andy on most points, with a few exceptions. The screen is the first. Yes, the SIII screen is large and beautiful, as are many of the SIII Android brethren. However, I found that the SIII screen was just not as bright, not as easy to see outside, and the auto-brightness was just not as seamless. Not only that, the SIII (and this is a Samsung thing), display seems a bit pixelated despite the high resolution. It's the "pentile matrix" thing. Whatever it is, it bothered me.
The form factor is the second issue -- and is related to the screen. I don't have large hands, so if Andy had to two-hand the SIII, I certainly did too. And while I appreciated the extra real estate, it was infuriating not being able to reach the top left with my thumb. I frequently found myself holding the phone in awkward ways, wishing I had a freakishly long thumb. I felt that something between the iPhone's 3.5 and SIII's 4.8 would be a perfect compromise. But the SIII was just a tad too big.
The replaceable battery... I like that too. You know what I like even better? Not needing to replace it. The SIII just didn't last as long as the iPhone on a single charge. Not even close. I can squeeze a solid 12 hours out of the iPhone with my heavy use. The SIII died in 8. And so I bought an extra battery, and a desktop charger, and was quite proud of myself. But I wish I didn't have too.
Ergonomics. Yes, I love the back button. And the menu button. But try to hold the phone sideways to watch a movie and see if you hit one of those by accident. Again. And again. Or put the phone on the side in a car to use as a (stellar) navigation unit, and accidentally hit the power button. Or the sensitive volume rocker. Oh, and let's adjust the volume. Wait, which of the 3 volume sliders should I be adjusting? I forget.
I do miss the S III. There are times I wish I still had it. It was a passionate affair, and it was fun. But the S III mistress proved too high maintenance in the end, a bit unrefined at the cocktail parties, and a bit too wild for business gatherings. But I think we may see each other again.
In the meantime, I thought I'd keep things interesting. And so I started cheating on my iPad with a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. It's the first few weeks, too early to tell. Either you or my therapist will know how it ends.
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I applaud your honesty without being an ass about it. I chose the SIII because of the big screen but unlike you I have large hands and can reach around the whole thing.
I do miss the iPhone battery life but I like having the screen more. I'm also a bit of a tinkerer so jail breaking isn't quite enough for me.
But I respect your choice and wish you the best of luck with your iPhone. I hope it serves you as well as my SIII will serve me.
Cheers!
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Lol wow....
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Yea... i was the exact opposite. my first smartphone was an old Motorola Q running Windows Mobile. After that, when the iPhone 3GS (the first REASONABLE seeming iPhone) came out, i upgraded to that. It was nice... and there weren't really any great Android devices at that time. My biggest beefs... lack of customizing options without jailbreaking, and requiring iTunes for damn near f*cking EVERYTHING! When the iPhone 4 came out... pre-ordered that. Also nice... liked the screen, nice camera... but still.... no customization, no ability to use something other than iTunes. When the Motorola Atrix was announced on AT&T, it seemed like quite the awesome phone. They came out, i bought one, and sold my iPhone 4 on eBay for like $450. Haven't looked back at Apple's ways. iTunes just completely sucks. Makes it seem even worse when you realize that any song you pay for is just a rental, apparently. But it sucked having to be tethered to iTunes to do damn near anything. "Oh, you can make a custom ringtone, but it has to be in this format, with a file size lower than this, and with a playback time shorter than this". Yea.... i'd much rather be able to slap any old MP3 onto a folder on my phone using any old file browser on my computer (Or *GASP*.... on my PHONE!?!?!) and be able to use it, no matter the length or file size.
But yea... you enjoy your iPhone if it's more suitable to you.
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Post this in ios forums nobody wants this crap here dude this is an ANDROID development site not a why you like being an izombie site
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Guys and gals, let me start off by saying that I am an absolute phone whore. Last year alone, I owned almost every single flagship at one point or another. I've rooted all my phones, have flashed 100's of roms, etc. You can check my posting history, blah, blah. I'm not trying to brag or anything, I just want people to know that I'm not some Android noob.
Anyhow, I am most recently coming from a Nexus 5 and a Note 3 before that. Last year, I owned the HTC One M7 twice. Each time for about a week. The first time is when my gf and I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile. When we didn't get good reception at work, we switched to AT&T and I once again got the M7. We are still on AT&T, but I dumped my M7 after a week on AT&T for the Note 3. Anyhow, here were my issues with the M7 that I see again with the M8:
1. After all the constant "excellent build quality" praise that the M7 and now M8 constantly get, I really just don't see it. Based on materials alone, yes, the M7 and M8 are excellent in materials. In actual build quality, they are both quite poor in my opinion. Both of my M7's from last year had screen fitment issues where they weren't flush with the top and bottom speaker grills. It annoyed the heck out of my OCD self and was one of the few reasons why I returned them both.
My M8 has a very similar issue. On the right side of the phone, the top and bottom speaker grills are raised above the glass. So my finger snags when I'm swiping up or down on the screen. Super annoying and I'm going to exchange it for sure, if I even keep this phone in general.
2. The LED notification light....if you can call it one. Is HTC the only smartphone manufacturer that doesn't understand the importance and desire from consumers to have a bright, legible and multi-colored LED notification light? The one on the M7 and now M8 is pathetic. Might as well not even have one. It is the size of a pinhole, can only show green or amber, and it is next to useless.
To HTC's credit, the one on the M8 does seem to be a bit more visible than it was on the M7, but it could be in my head. And also keep in mind that I knew exactly what I was getting into when I bought the M8, so it's my own fault with this issue. I still wanted to mention it however as it still bothers me.
3. The camera. I will keep this one short as there is constant discussion about it and people have varying opinions. My opinion is that it's lackluster, and I never thought I would say my Nexus 5 camera is better than a premium flagship phone. But it is, and I will leave it at that.
And once again, I knew what I was getting into before I purchased the M8, but I fell for HTC's duo camera marketing thinking it might somehow make 4mp's better than 4mp's. It didn't and I'm disappointed for the most part.
4. Software....I don't know what it is, but Sense 6 feels cold and empty to me. Coming from the Nexus 5, I know this might sound like a bizarre statement, but something feels off and I can't quite pinpoint it. It feels, dare I say, boring. Yes it is fast and smooth, I will give it that. But that's about where it ends for me.
I also can't wrap my head around HTC still not addressing their messaging app oddity. On the M7, when you got a new text message and opened the app, the new message wouldn't immediately appear and it would refresh quickly and then it would show up. I don't know about anyone else, but that is super duper annoying to me. And it's sadly still present on the M8.
Some might say, "use Hangouts or a 3rd party app". And I would say "nope". I hate how Hangouts handles SMS and MMS and I don't like to use 3rd party apps for text messaging. Just personal preference.
5. The physical aspect of the phone itself....it's just too tall. I understand they had to cram amps, a bigger battery, etc into the phone. But almost as tall as the Note 3? Come on. The phone feels good in the hand however, but it's just a little cumbersome. And I still hate the top of phone power button placement even thought they moved it from the left side to right.
With all of that being said, I still really, really like this phone believe it or not. The above average sound from the speakers, good battery life, good reception (compared to my Nexus 5), very nice quality screen, and fluid performance all add up for me.
So now I'm in the dilemma of deciding if the cons outweigh the pros enough to return the phone. Are my gripes unreasonable? Am I alone here? Any advice or thoughts?
Thanks!
You are not alone...I have owned pretty much every Android flagship as well.
At least some if not most will have the same gripes.
I have a One on the way soon but I am not as particular (at least I think so).
1. I never had screen fitment issues. I owned about 4 M7's (don't ask lol)
2. Notification light...ya this one bugs me. You pointed out yourself and I'll leave it at that.
3. I give up on the camera discussion. I'll refrain on chiming in on this because this can go on for days. In the end, I'm ok with it. If I want good shots, I have a regular camera.
4. I love Sense..simple, clean, and fast. I don't need all the bells and whistles. If I do, I pull out my Note 3 which is used for work mainly.
The One (pun intended) thing that keeps me coming back is the M7/M8 just does what it does best...be a smartphone. I think the biggest complaint is the camera. I think the M8's strong points are more than enough to make up for the lackluster camera which isn't the best but it's adequate.
For you WizeGuyDezignz, the questions is are you willing to return/sell/exhange the M8 for all the things you point out?
WizeGuyDezignz said:
4. Software....I don't know what it is, but Sense 6 feels cold and empty to me. Coming from the Nexus 5, I know this might sound like a bizarre statement, but something feels off and I can't quite pinpoint it. It feels, dare I say, boring. Yes it is fast and smooth, I will give it that. But that's about where it ends for me.
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I was just recollecting today about how much I disliked my M7 (and how happy I was to trade it for an S4), and I couldn't remember why.
This is the #1 reason why (with bad battery life of course)! There is so little color and so little contrast that the whole UI is BORING! TouchWiz on the S4 was colorful and inviting. Although it was more bloated, the experience was more pleasant somehow.
I also have to agree with all of your other gripes. The build "quality" seemed quite lacking (and mine was pretty good compared to some of the "Ones" that looked like trash out of the box). Apple does it right with the metal. HTC, not so much. I'm canceling my M8 Dev order and either going for a GPE or an S5. I'd never hated a phone as much as I had the M7 (just /using/ it made me unhappy), and I really don't want to go through the same thing with the M8 (Sense hasn't changed much and I'm sure it will go down the same). If I were you, I'd return it and go for an S5 or GPE as well.
And no, you aren't alone/crazy, but maybe I am
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I have a M7 right now, will be getting M8 when T-Mobile has it. But I'll chime in as well, since theyre pretty similar.
1. Yea, I agree. I had tons of issues with my first M7, my second M7 is better but still not perfect. Your issues with the M8 sound a lot better than either of my M7s though.
First one: Badly mis-aligned top and bottom speaker grilles. Recessed power button (had to use my nail to really push it). Screen wasnt flush with the bottom grille.
Second one (current one): Top and bottom grilles are better, but still slightly misaligned. Power button is normal. Screen is slightly sunken in on the lower left corner, but I'm not sure if this developed over time.
2. Yep.. I miss the notification lights from my old phones. They all did this better than the HTC One, except for the HTC G2... which had an equally useless tiny LED behind the speaker grille... hmmmmmmm
3. I'm one of the few that actually likes the camera. I have no need for so many megapixels. My Canon 5D Classic has 12.8MP and my Panasonic GM1 has 16MP. Even with these cameras I dont like to zoom in 100%, even with my sharpest lenses in the best lighting I rarely want to zoom in that far. Theres no need for a phone to have that much... I'd say 8MP at most, but I'm fine with the 4MP right now.
4. I dont have an issue with Sense. But maybe you feel its "cold" because its completely black and white? I believe Sense 6 allows you to change the colors a bit, so try that.
5. Yeaa.. its a pretty big phone. I'm not sure how I'll adjust to the M8 after having my M7. I would rather lose the speakers since I don't use em anyway but meh. Maybe next year.
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YES
I was just recollecting today about how much I disliked my M7 (and how happy I was to trade it for an S4), and I couldn't remember why.
This is the #1 reason why (with bad battery life of course)! There is so little color and so little contrast that the whole UI is BORING! TouchWiz on the S4 was colorful and inviting. Although it was more bloated, the experience was more pleasant somehow.
I also have to agree with all of your other gripes. The build "quality" seemed quite lacking (and mine was pretty good compared to some of the "Ones" that looked like trash out of the box). Apple does it right with the metal. HTC, not so much. I'm canceling my M8 Dev order and either going for a GPE or an S5. I'd never hated a phone as much as I had the M7 (just /using/ it made me unhappy), and I really don't want to go through the same thing with the M8 (Sense hasn't changed much and I'm sure it will go down the same). If I were you, I'd return it and go for an S5 or GPE as well.
And no, you aren't alone/crazy, but maybe I am
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Yeah, the reason why I posted this was to type all of my thoughts out to make me think more logically. On the surface, I want to keep the M8 for the style/design, speakers, etc. But I can't let that be the only reason. I need to look beyond those things and value the functionality of the software and the user experience.
This is why I am actually going to consider the S5. I already pre-ordered it for my gf since she wants to stick with Samsung. So I am going to give hers a test drive and make up my mind at that time.
Thanks for your input!
They aren't completely black and white (one is though), but all four themes lack contrast. There's no "custom" theme option from what I've seen (ability to customize the four main colors), and the whole thing looks too bland to me because of it. To each their own, but Sense just doesn't cut it for me. Although I've installed ROMs numerous times, I always find myself back at stock for one reason or another. Hence, I'm against putting a custom ROM on the M8 to fix the colors.
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Yeah, the reason why I posted this was to type all of my thoughts out to make me think more logically. On the surface, I want to keep the M8 for the style/design, speakers, etc. But I can't let that be the only reason. I need to look beyond those things and value the functionality of the software and the user experience.
This is why I am actually going to consider the S5. I already pre-ordered it for my gf since she wants to stick with Samsung. So I am going to give hers a test drive and make up my mind at that time.
Thanks for your input!
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Honestly, I think it would be better to just install a custom launcher or wait for custom roms (if you dont mind unlocking/rooting your phone).
Samsung's Touchwiz is the worst thing I have ever used. I've never owned a Samsung phone but I've helped plenty of friends with their S3s, S4s, etc. I also cant stand the plastic build. And the S5 looks like a bad ripoff of the original Nexus 7.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Yeah, the reason why I posted this was to type all of my thoughts out to make me think more logically. On the surface, I want to keep the M8 for the style/design, speakers, etc. But I can't let that be the only reason. I need to look beyond those things and value the functionality of the software and the user experience.
This is why I am actually going to consider the S5. I already pre-ordered it for my gf since she wants to stick with Samsung. So I am going to give hers a test drive and make up my mind at that time.
Thanks for your input!
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Hey of course! I agree with typing stuff out. Sometimes it really helps
I've been in the exact same situation as you, wanting to get the M8 because of the metal/hype/great reviews, but if you don't like the UI you don't like the UI. I'm very glad I could help, and don't forget you helped me also! It was your post that made me realize why I disliked the M7 so much
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Honestly, I think it would be better to just install a custom launcher or wait for custom roms (if you dont mind unlocking/rooting your phone).
Samsung's Touchwiz is the worst thing I have ever used. I've never owned a Samsung phone but I've helped plenty of friends with their S3s, S4s, etc. I also cant stand the plastic build. And the S5 looks like a bad ripoff of the original Nexus 7.
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I considered the Google Launcher, but all of the stock apps have the theme/color issue too. Probably the biggest reason I've stayed away from ROMs (except for when I've tried them of course ) is that they're never 100% perfect, and rarely as stable as stock.
The GPE caught my eye, but I'd just assume get a Nexus 5... Some metal, speakers, SD slot, and a bit more battery life are in no way worth a $300 premium IMO (and more weight+slower updates). Does the GPE even support the Dot View?
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... You all know there has been TONS of themes for Sense made here on xda right? Can make it look however you like.. sure there's no built in option for it in the ui itself, but there are flashable zips aplenty here. That should be a non-issue. And if you like the nexus(aka stock/aosp), the same launchers work for this phone and the m7. Can even convert the m7 to GPE, and I'm sure the m8 will be the same once we get soff..
As for build quality, you need to at least exchange the phones, I've had 3 m7's and now the m8 and all are absolutely perfect. No raised speaker grills or anything of the sort. Had to just be a bad luck at the time(s) or something :/
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... You all know there has been TONS of themes for Sense made here on xda right? Can make it look however you like.. sure there's no built in option for it in the ui itself, but there are flashable zips aplenty here. That should be a non-issue. And if you like the nexus(aka stock/aosp), the same launchers work for this phone and the m7. Can even convert the m7 to GPE, and I'm sure the m8 will be the same once we get soff..
As for build quality, you need to at least exchange the phones, I've had 3 m7's and now the m8 and all are absolutely perfect. No raised speaker grills or anything of the sort. Had to just be a bad luck at the time(s) or something :/
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For Sense 6 though?
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For Sense 6 though?
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+1
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For Sense 6 though?
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I know my team already has some made and working on more, and I know there are a couple other teams/people making themes for sense 6 too but don't have any links handy. It's taking a little longer as there were massive changes compared to 5.5 but yeah there are themes out for sense6 and there will be a bunch more soon.
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And I'll be honest:
Even if the colors were nice and had good contrast, it still wouldn't work for me. The whole thing: menus, blinkfeed, settings, they're all too /flat/. This may seem weird, but the new TouchWiz has some "texture" to the menus and such.
Also, as an iOS user, I was actually insanely surprised about how similar Samsung's settings and quick toggles are to iOS 7's... But hey. I like it
Here's what I mean:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Some of those icons, shapes, and colors all look quite similar to me.
Not to mention Samsung reverse-engineered iCloud backups so if you switch you can get all your iMessages, texts, call logs, calendar appointments, app data, and other stuff on your S5 XD
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I know my team already has some made and working on more, and I know there are a couple other teams/people making themes for sense 6 too but don't have any links handy. It's taking a little longer as there were massive changes compared to 5.5 but yeah there are themes out for sense6 and there will be a bunch more soon.
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Sounds good, I'm looking forward to trying some of them when theyre out then. Assuming I can unlock the T-Mobile M8 variant that I'll have... hope I can lol.
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And I'll be honest:
Even if the colors were nice and had good contrast, it still wouldn't work for me. The whole thing: menus, blinkfeed, settings, they're all too /flat/. This may seem weird, but the new TouchWiz has some "texture" to the menus and such.
Also, as an iOS user, I was actually insanely surprised about how similar Samsung's settings and quick toggles are to iOS 7's... But hey. I like it
Here's what I mean:
Some of those icons, shapes, and colors all look quite similar to me.
Not to mention Samsung reverse-engineered iCloud backups so if you switch you can get all your iMessages, texts, call logs, calendar appointments, app data, and other stuff on your S5 XD
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That does look kindaa similar. But I'm sure there are plenty of valid arguments on both sides... Didnt Windows Phone do the whole flat look in general first?
Meh. I stopped supporting Samsung a while ago for my own reasons, so I have no idea who did what first anymore.
Yeah I don't care who did it first, but I just wanted to emphasize how hard Sammy is trying to get iOS users to switch. They'll get my money, but it'll be used on my "mess around" line. No Android offering can take me away from iOS 100% yet
Edit: Windows phone was the OG flat--more reminds me of Sense than iOS though (very little color, mostly 2-3 tone). iOS is colorful and flatter than it was, but not Sense 6 or WP8 flat.
I had a Lumia 1520 for a while, and hated it for the same reason I did the M7 (OS colors).
On WP, there was nothing you could do to change it
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Guys and gals, let me start off by saying that I am an absolute phone whore. Last year alone, I owned almost every single flagship at one point or another. I've rooted all my phones, have flashed 100's of roms, etc. You can check my posting history, blah, blah. I'm not trying to brag or anything, I just want people to know that I'm not some Android noob.
Anyhow, I am most recently coming from a Nexus 5 and a Note 3 before that. Last year, I owned the HTC One M7 twice. Each time for about a week. The first time is when my gf and I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile. When we didn't get good reception at work, we switched to AT&T and I once again got the M7. We are still on AT&T, but I dumped my M7 after a week on AT&T for the Note 3. Anyhow, here were my issues with the M7 that I see again with the M8:
1. After all the constant "excellent build quality" praise that the M7 and now M8 constantly get, I really just don't see it. Based on materials alone, yes, the M7 and M8 are excellent in materials. In actual build quality, they are both quite poor in my opinion. Both of my M7's from last year had screen fitment issues where they weren't flush with the top and bottom speaker grills. It annoyed the heck out of my OCD self and was one of the few reasons why I returned them both.
My M8 has a very similar issue. On the right side of the phone, the top and bottom speaker grills are raised above the glass. So my finger snags when I'm swiping up or down on the screen. Super annoying and I'm going to exchange it for sure, if I even keep this phone in general.
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I also have this, does anyone else? Is this a fault and should I be sending this back? Only have a day or two left cooling period so need to decide asap.
thanks
i will let go of all the nega on the main OP
however regarding build, we all been there before, a unit or two or even a dozen will never reflect something that is in mass production
products coming from China will forever have a possibility of imperfections, yes even iphones, for that if you are really picky just replace your unit
millions of happy M7 owners will disagree with you there, yes there was a bad batch at launch but it quickly moved on
so why go through this everytime as if its something new, just hand pick or replace your unit and move on
SolarTrans said:
And I'll be honest:
Even if the colors were nice and had good contrast, it still wouldn't work for me. The whole thing: menus, blinkfeed, settings, they're all too /flat/. This may seem weird, but the new TouchWiz has some "texture" to the menus and such.
Also, as an iOS user, I was actually insanely surprised about how similar Samsung's settings and quick toggles are to iOS 7's... But hey. I like it
Here's what I mean:
Some of those icons, shapes, and colors all look quite similar to me.
Not to mention Samsung reverse-engineered iCloud backups so if you switch you can get all your iMessages, texts, call logs, calendar appointments, app data, and other stuff on your S5 XD
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The One with Sense 6.0 has a theme chooser builtin, it makes the theme making VERY easy for XDA folks.
Just pay a visit to the themes section and see how in just 5 days how much themes are made and consider 1000x more in a couple of weeks, INCLUDING colors and icons of your beloved ios 7
Well guys, I returned my M8 today and pre-ordered the S5. While in the AT&T store as I was waiting for them to process my return, I played with the S5 that they had in the store. I'm sold and it's a better fit for me. The M8 got really boring very fast. I guess I'm not a Sense fan.
Oh well, I understand the people who are fans. Good luck all!! :good:
I have had my first hands on the M8 today. Speed aside, I swear I wasn't impressed. The M7 is a legendary phone like the Galaxy S2 was. This M8 is the same as the M7 but taller and the metal is brushed. Now that I have had my hands on the M8 I can honestly say that I prefer the M7 (looks).
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