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My 1st time expericance with root/roms/RSD

Picked up my US (T-mo)Defy last month, it was running Eclair.
I've been reading as much as I could before I attempted to do anything that voids my warrenty. I couldn't wait for the US Froyo release...
So I rooted with SuperOneClick because z4root did not seem to work. Then I got clockwork installed. My first attempt was to install Jboogie3's "beta4Offical" thinking it would keep Eclair and just clean up this blur nonsense. But when I used clockwork recovery, it just hung. No worries, I've still got a working phone.
Next I attempted "JBoogie3 Deblur Honey" and that put me in a boot loop <that was a Oh ****! moment>. Since I could still get into stock recovery and bootloader, I was not too worried. I happen to have the T-mo OTA update.zip on my Defy, so I attempted to flash/install that...but I got the "status 7" error (I think b/c it was still rooted). Since I wanted my phone back that night, I went ahead and installed 3.4.2_145(Finland) .sbf (I think...it was late) with RSD Lite. Anyhow, it got me back up! I had saved my APN earlier, so things were working, but still stock.
Not leaving well enough alone, I figured "why the hell not" and rooted->clockwork and then recovered to "JBoogie3 Deblur Honey". That worked this time.
Happy as a clam now. I was worried about the "H" for my network, but I did speedtests and browsed around and I'm getting 800-100kbps and I can live with the "H"...like a sleeper!
I'm gonna continue to read and try new "roms" (I'm still wet behind the ears on the terms).

I also did it wrong when I tried to restore the orange recovery, and ended up flashing the orange sbf. But its working well and I'm happy as well.

i also own the phone from less than a month and i also messed up everything , install 3.4.2 before reading about non downgreadable....... rooted 3.4.2 finland installed clockwork , took a nandroid backup of 2,34 trying to restore to official 2.1 eclair version it restored and i was happy but no luck it got me on the bootloop....... now i am flashing to 3.42 but not finland ... its uk version hope it works and the phone dont dies.......
by the way my moto swimmed already but its fine ... its very cool to watch your phone at the bottom of water sparkling v ery tough on the outside hope i wont kill it from the inside
edit: installed the uk blur rom but it doesnt give the starting options (LANGUAGE) to change them... now its in german , and reset factory settings doesnt work pushing the button button but it dingoes nothing.... crap , reseting with system recovery also doest help resets but its in german again

Thanks for the report, im relatively new to the defy as well ( just over a week now ) and at some time i will probably start looking into the various roms+upgrades.
the only thing holding me back is the official 2.2 update is due soon ( apparently )
and im not sure if i would be able to return back to my current settings/ version 2.1 should i need to.

New to android, new to Moto-Defy
Fellow Defy users,
Greetings of peace!
I am noob here in the xda developers
First off, really don't want to spam threads.. So I chose to post my message here in this thread for a semi-short explanation of what I want to share.
I am new to the android phones (previously a symbian user), and I just got my new Motorola Defy - Black which I bought here in the Philippines.
I bought 2 models actually one for myself and one for my brother as he requested one as well.
To cut the chase..I just want to share some inputs.
To my shock, the phone has some mods already as I opened it.
**take note that the battery is sealed and all other stuffs are sealed when I got the phone*
It has adobe flash player 10 (not flash lite)
Super User
R. Explorer
ITFUNZ (which is all in chinese)
UC Browser
I believe this are the things needed to "root" your phone.
I heard it's better when your phone is rooted.
android version 2.2.1 Froyo
And the as of my brother's phone, no additional apps as mentioned above.
Android version 2.1 eclair
** Noticed that my camera is better than his and has slightly a different camera interface**
I heard that it's cooler to have a rooted android phone and I hope you can enlighten me with my curiosities.
1. My phone has a 3 day replacement warranty and 1 year Motorola service warranty, should I return the device since it's rooted? Or Should I keep it to save me of the hassle since I would like to root anyway in the future.
2. Prior to question 1, do I lose/void the Motorola warranty since it's already rooted the day I purchased it?
3. I know it’s possible to unroot my device, my concern is that the ITFUNZ and R.Explorer applications are in Chinese. How am I able to understand and access.. “just” in case I need access to these files
The seller told me that the models they’re selling are open to all network or factory unlocked which are processed already by their suppliers.
That’s true since my bro’s phone is opened to all network. Maybe mine was just special because it was already rooted.
Here are the details of my MOTO-DEFY (Setting>Applications>about)
**I hope some one can give me information on each item so I can get a head start working with my phone**
System Version
Version.34.0.117.MB525.Retail.en.GB
Model Number
MB525
Android version
2.2.1
Baseband version
EPU93_U_00.56.00
Kernel Version
2.6.32.9-g3c35cd0
[email protected]#1
Build number
ITFUNZ_DEFY_Eclipse_CN_Base_UK_SP1
Well that’s it for now. I’m just reading and reading more threads to feed my knowledge. (sometime reading to much information confuses already your understanding)
Thanks for reading my post and it will be highly appreciated for you masters out there to give a helping hand on how to maximize and enjoy our Moto-Defy.
-G

nubbuns question regarding installing foroy on the defy

Just a quick one.
Ive come from the desire which ive installed just about every rom on and modified the partition table dozens of times so im no stranger to rooting... however this defy has me confused.
I need 2.2 to access lotus traveller for my work emails so im looking to install a custom rom until T-mobile uk finally release the official one but im reading all sorts of things like not being able to downgrade if you flash certain roms which arent "fixed".
Can someone give me a brief overview so i can get my head round what all this is about and can anyone point me in the direction of a good solid 2.2 rom which is as close to the official rom as possible?
cheers
edit : forgive the title, its meant to say FROYO!!

Here you go fella http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993402
I've just recently flashed this 3.4.3-11 http://depositfiles.com/en/files/tjnmh6d98 onto my Defy & it's running great. There's no T-Mobile branding on this one & I doubt that you would be able to downgrade to an older version either.
You'll need RSD Lite V4.9, Motorola Drivers (I used V4.9 for these).
I followed Higgsy's great guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853674 about flashing a sbf & it worked a treat - in fact this current sbf is the 2nd froyo that I've flashed.
Hope this helps.

thanks for that. Ive actually managed to get a version of 3.4.2 on now which can be downgraded. Im starting to get the hang of this, it certainly a different process than what im used to thanks to motorola!
Im trying to keep it to stock roms now as I found with my desire there was always some bug that "bugged" me with custom roms so with this I think when the official 2.2 comes out for the UK I will flash it and keep the phone unrooted ( I only ever initially got into rooting for apps2sd anyway)
The reason for needing to keep it downgradeable is purely for the warranty with t-mobile otherwise I would just go with the rom you suggested.
Do you know of any version of 3.4.3-11 that is out there that is downgradeable that is still close to stock in terms of apps and features?
edit :its worth noting that higgsys procedure doesnt work with the eclair 2.51, you end up with the black screen issue. ( I imagine most are shipping with this now) although the general guidelines still apply, just different files are needed.

I'm not clued up on anything other than flashing a sbf via RSD Lite but if you have a look at the SBF Service File sticky in the Defy Dev forum the last post or two links to a fixed sbf & a nandroid of 3.4.3-11.
Sent from my MotoDefy.

[Q] Getting rid of Vodafone AU ROM to 'stock'?

Hi,
I've had my DHD for 6 months now, and I love it, but after seeing this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056329
I've finally decided I want to get rid of the Vodafone crap on my phone. It takes way longer to boot than it should, I have stupid apps on there, and I'm generally sick of seeing the Vodafone symbol every time I boot my phone, especially as I bought the phone from them and am not even contracted to them.
Is there an easy way to rid myself of this Vodafone branded ROM? I know next to nothing about rooting or anything, however.
After seeing the link above, I realised that I'll probably be waiting ages for Vodafone to send the update OTA, and I would really like some Gingerbread around about now. Hopefully the process will speed up my phone.
But, is there anyway I can do this without losing everything on my phone? My messages, apps, settings?
A lot of questions there - thanks in advance.

Hi, you will lose everything you don't backup.
Apps will need to be reinstalled, and settings will be lost.
If your firmware version is greater than 1.3x.xxx.x then you will need to downgrade to 1.32
Follow THIS thread to downgrade.
Once downgraded simply download & run the RUU~.exe file and it will take care of the rest.

How could I backup my apps (and settings) and restore them once updated?
My 'software version' is 1.32.178.5
Looking at the link you provided, it says...
System requirements:
Desire HD with build number 1.72 or higher
My DHD's build number is 1.32.xxx.x... Do I...not have to downgrade? Or what?
Also, since I'm running on an Australian network (Virgin), will I need to incorporate that somehow into the software I put onto the phone or something..?

You can root your phone and use clockwork to remove data/cache to go back to factory settings
as for the virgin thing, just make sure your APNs are correct and you should be fine

So I could root it and use Clockwork and my phone would basically be like a standard Desire HD that I bought new, unbranded in a shop?

yeah but you will also lose all your contacts and messages etc
i think you can use titaniumbackup to save those kind of things .. but done quote me because ive never done this, ive only rooted and cleared then flashed a new rom on

actually look up a stock RUU guide
EDIT: Just Root your phone and flash a custom rom imo
I did it .. never going back

Hmm, okay.
What about if I wanted to put something on my phone like the link I posted up top, the 2.3 'release'?

well click the ROOTED link in my sig
and do all the steps with the exception of the flashing of the MIUI.zip ... just replace it with the custom rom of your choice and bobs your uncle
i advice to back up your apps and anything else you want to keep

Flashing Roms how to start, where to start?

Ive been looking through some of the posts on the Android development board, but im relativly new to the idea of flashing different roms.
At the moment my phone is running the standard Froyo 2.2.2 firmware, from Motorola,
system version 34.164.3.MB525.Retail.en.FR
Is it a simple process to change this?
can i go back to the default Rom/version( listed above)? or would i be stuck with, say, cyanogenmod 2.3.4?
would i still be able to use the Motorola phone portal to send texts via my p.c?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065798
Follow this tutorial..everything is given in this..
The process is simple..u may face few problems flashing a ROM,just search in this forum for the solution.
Well yes u can go back to your stock ROM if you have the sbf file or an nandroid backup.
Yes phone portal is present in CM7 also..so not a problem.
All the best

Thanks for the link, although im still non the wiser.
You said
Well yes u can go back to your stock ROM if you have the sbf file or an nandroid backup.
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How can i get hold of that file? my phone updated via motorola sfotware update to this:
Version.34.164.3.MB525.Retail.en.FR
and its running Firmware version 2.2.2
whats this nordic firmware?, and if thats 2.1 would that cause probelms as my phone is curently 2.2.2??

you already have the right firmware. start to flash cm7. should be fine.

klickig said:
you already have the right firmware. start to flash cm7. should be fine.
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How can i get hold of a revocery file, if i decide to go back to the standard motorola 2.2.2?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126907
Here is the link to the official 2.2.2 UK sbf(as u r from UK)
you can use this to get back to 2.2.2 anytime you want
http://www.multiup.org/fichiers/dow...06b1_Motorola_Defy_Nu___Android_2.2_FroYo.rar
or go to above link to download you present official ROM..
Both should work fine..
All the best

Is it safe to update Motorola defy while maintaining the unlock?

Hey guys, I was thinking of installing cm7 on my motorola defy but the problem is that its a t-mobile uk version that has been unlocked using an unlock code. Right now I can use any sim with this phone but after installing cm7 will the phone lock itself back to t-mo? I don't have the unlock code for this phone so it would be really disastrous for me if it were to lock itself. should I be worried?
I found a tutorial here that un brands the motorola defy, does that mean the phone would be unlocked? My phone is currently running android 2.2.2 official uk build with baseband epu_93_00.59.02 kernel version 2.6.32.9 and build number jorem_u3_3.4.2_179-6.1.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Sent from my MB525 using XDA

Yes it should be safe.
I haven't done it myself, but here's why I say so:
1- during the process of updating to a custom rom, everyone should create a full nandroid backup of their current stock rom right after installing 2nd-Init. That way, if things don't work out with custom rom [or for warranty purposes] one can easily return to that original setup with a nand restore [and un-rooting];
2- there is a thread regarding sim unlocking the Defy here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22227859 but I bet you will not even have to deal with it...But if you do, it's there for you and you'll find help from others users I'm sure.
Don't waste anymore time and give a shot at CM7; I'm sure that you'll never go back to stock rom afterwards ;-)
Cheers

Ok one last question. My baseband is greater than the version listed on that thread. It is .02 and I have heard that downgrading your baseband is usually not safe?
Sent from my MB525 using XDA

that shouldn't be a problem either.
In fact, Maniac103 just recently changed the way we set baseband on cm7; no more dedicated apk.. it's now all done through Device Settings.
If you're still worried [and To be on the safe side, in addition the the nand backup before installing a custom rom], also make a copy of this whole folder (current radio files) from your stock rom:
system/etc/motorola/bp_mvn_default
so that you can revert to them (make a flashable zip w them) if needed.
Anyhow, no big risk involved if you do it that way.
Good luck and have fun.

Thank You for your help!

as far as I know unlock is retained no matter what rom u are on...
not 100% sure...
let us know how this works out...
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium

SBFs on Motorola Defy
I read the Motorola Defy beginners guide but I don't understand some stuff. I am already on the latest SBF deployed by T-Mobile UK i.e JOREM_U3_3.4.2_179-6.1 as shown in settings Build Number. When we install Custom ROMs lets say CM7, do these ROMs change the SBF? If yes, then how do I know if it is a Fixed SBF or a Full SBF? If I want to come back to the official build of which I would be making a backup in case I need to get warranty (I still have 6 months of warranty) then do I need to again install the Full SBF taken from the link Zephyrot posted?
If CM7 does not modify or change the SBF then I think I would be pretty much safe in just restoring the official 2.2.2 froyo build without worrying much about SBFs, unroot the phone using SuperOneClick and taking it back to the service center. Right?
And lastly I have the SOC Defy, checked it using CatLog. Does the stable build downloaded from the CynaogenMod website of CM7 work OOB? Zephyrot suggested that sometimes you need to do additional stuff for everything to work correctly.

To go back to stock state, there are two options: 1) you restore a nand backup and like you said, you have to remove SU and unroot. This ain't so easy to do, but is sometimes the only option for people not having their stock sbf available. 2) access STOCK recovery and wipe everything and then flash their stock sbf.
Once rooted and 2nd init installed, I still recommend to create a nand backup of your stock/current state before using a custom rom anyway.
Could be useful if you ever need to go back (outside warranty) to stock rom with all your apps still installed...
Sbf is stock firmware; custom rom replace and build upon that software. I think you meant kernel? But anyhow, I suggest you to first go with ghe latest Maniac103 latest build as it includes boot.img and devtree; no need for anything else and it is rock solid and lightning fast.
Get it here: https://github.com/maniac103/android_device_motorola_jordan/downloads#download_187690

It works superbly
Thanks guys, everything works superbly. The phone didn't lock and it feels like a dead man has been given a life back again!