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[Q] Orange UK Branded Desire wants FroYo!

Hi Everyone,
I would be very grateful for a little help.
I have an Orange UK branded desire. Like everyone else the Orange branding really annoyed me so I have followed the guide to create a goldcard and have rooted and flashed a stock HTC rom. (so I'm currently using 1.15.405.4)
This is as far as I got before I left it.
So, am I right in thinking that to now get a rooted version of FroYo onto my desire all I need to do is;
1. Update the radio to the latest one, which will lock me out of my phone regardless of what network I'm on
2. Purchase an unlock code to get me back into my phone.
3. Use an application like ROM Manager to flash a FroYo rom onto my phone. (will I need to use my goldcard if I used ROM Manager?)
Is there anything else I should be aware of? I have been reading around and it seems fairly straight forward but I believe there are some issues with de-branded Orange phones.
Apologies if this has already been covered in another thread, but I'm really new to all this and to say I'm a little worried that I'm going to brick my desire is a major understatement!
Thanks again for any help!

Yep you pretty much have it spot on! Although it sounds like you haven't rooted yet. You will need to do this in order to flash a rooted ROM!
You can use Unrevoked 3 to root your phone, really easy with a couple of clicks.
Although I have personally used an unlock code my friend with an Orange Branded desire didn't get locked out when he used the latest radio, so looks like you may be in luck! Probably worth trying before you purchase a code

magicwaz said:
Hi Everyone,
I would be very grateful for a little help.
I have an Orange UK branded desire. Like everyone else the Orange branding really annoyed me so I have followed the guide to create a goldcard and have rooted and flashed a stock HTC rom. (so I'm currently using 1.15.405.4)
This is as far as I got before I left it.
So, am I right in thinking that to now get a rooted version of FroYo onto my desire all I need to do is;
1. Update the radio to the latest one, which will lock me out of my phone regardless of what network I'm on
2. Purchase an unlock code to get me back into my phone.
3. Use an application like ROM Manager to flash a FroYo rom onto my phone. (will I need to use my goldcard if I used ROM Manager?)
Is there anything else I should be aware of? I have been reading around and it seems fairly straight forward but I believe there are some issues with de-branded Orange phones.
Apologies if this has already been covered in another thread, but I'm really new to all this and to say I'm a little worried that I'm going to brick my desire is a major understatement!
Thanks again for any help!
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Hello there,
I am not sure that debranding was necessary, you could have rooted the phone using unrevoked, then just flash a rooted official froyo. And if you had unlocked your phone first, then you could have also flahed the latest radio rom.
I would say unlock your phone first, root it, then flash the latest radio, then flash a rooted froyo rom of your choice.

Thanks for the really fast responses.
I thought I had already rooted it? How would I tell if its rooted? I've already installed the ROM Manager app and Titanium Backup which say that they need root to work. Titanium Backup also says "Root access=> OK (BusyBox 1.16.0 from app)"

your defo rooted if the app says that
Strange people should say your not rooted, you can get rooted stock roms after all thats what I did. I'm on tmo and I flashed back the same firmware before flashing froyo no sim lock when I finally got to froyo cause I had trouble flashing recovery.
I have read some stuff on orange sim locking, try looking at the unlockr wbsit I think there is a tutorial there that mentions what to do when this happens.
Best thing to do tho is go to the Macardo android website (hxxp://android.modaco.com) they are really helpful there you'll get instant replies worth listening too, anyone worth listening too on here is far too busy

If you flash the latest radio you will not get simlocked (@satnile)

Just wanted to say thank you for all your help, I done it! I am now using FroYo on my (previously orange branded) Desire. Its awesome!
Also thanks for letting me know that I didn't have to buy an unlock code. Saved me few quid!
I don't think I want to be messing around with my phone like this again... well... maybe until the next major update
Thanks again!

But you just forgot to mention which method you've used.

That would probably help!
I had already followed the instructions on how to root a branded desire and install a stock htc rom that is posted on these forums.
This left me with a rooted, debranded desire. I lost all my contacts in the process, but thankfully I had synchronised it with HTC Sync a little while ago, so I was able to retrieve my contacts from that. Also having the desire set to automatically back-up things in its own settings, helped get back my text messages and saved wifi/bluetooth connections.
I then found the ROM I wanted to install. I just wanted the stock FroYo ROM. I picked one that was already rooted and did not update the hboot as I read there were issues if it did update it.
I followed instructions, also on these forums, on how to install the latest radio. I wasn't sure if I should have done this with my goldcard in the phone, but I used it anyway! That went fine and I was also not sim locked out, which saved me some money.
I copied the FroYo ROM I wanted onto my normal micro-SD card (not my goldcard), then used ROM Manager (downloadable via marketplace) to install the ROM. I was expecting it to take some time to install (10min+), but its pretty quick. The phone took a bit longer to boot up after the update.
Thankfully everything went well and I didn't even lose anything on the phone! Nothing was affected. I had all my apps, contacts, settings, background, ringtones, widgets etc... all set as normal. I was expecting them to be all wiped so I had backed up everything using Titanium Backup.
I hope that helps anyone who is about to void their warranty!
Any questions, just ask and I'll do my best to answer them. I'm definitely no expert, so all I can really talk about is what I did. I'm sure people will say there was an easier way to do it, but this is how I understood the process from the many guides out there.

T-Mobile's botched Froyo update...

Ok - as some people will know, TMob pushed the OTA in September.
Initially things seemed ok, but people spotted those pesky german apps that came down as well, so alarm bells started ringing.
For me anyway, the Market doesn't work as it should either - there are quite a few apps I've paid for which now don't show up on the market.
Also (and I'm not sure if this was OTA related) my gmail contacts went to crap, so I ended up doing a factory reset.
I think there may be other foibles that have come over by having the german version installed - never mind the space taken up by those useless apps.
So, the question I have is this - what have people managed to do about it, other than doing the usual debrand, or root solutions.
Has anyone contacted T Mobile yet to see what they have to say about it?
It's a real pain in the ass. I should probably debrand and be done with it, but I don't really want to lose my warranty, just in case...

man debrand and root, install a pre-rooted 2.10 add a2sd+ and UVOC v3 kernel and you won't look behind

I use, a lot, the wifi hotspot, and usb tether option.
2.1 doesn't have these does it?

i meant the official HTC WWE firmware numbered 2.10, its the second and latest WWE stock froyo release (the first was 2.09)
i had t-mobile desire myself and i've debranded it, just make sure you always have a goldcard when you debrand and update

hamdir - where can I get this?
Shipped Roms doesn't appear to list it...

Yes they do...
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
You'll need a gold card to flash it, though

Ok - not sure how I missed that then.
I had actually started prepping my phone for doing a debrand, so my sim is already goldcarded I think. (ie I used the goldcard utility etc, and the program said it had created.) That said though, I didn't format the card first before going through the routine of creating the goldcard - should I have done?
I figured the card is already formatted, as it's an 8gb card - ie not a stock microsd, so in order to use it initially, I would have had to have formatted it anyway.
How do I get the kernel and radio then?
Are they part of the Rom you've posted?

So, will I have problems with this goldcard?

Getting back to stock

About a month ago my phone was getting stuck on the HTC loading screen making it impossible to even get into recovery, So with some help from some lovely people on XDA I got a rom which put me back to stock, however I now have the problem that my phone either has a very low signal on the rom I got linked to, or on the Miui one i backed up thinks im roaming alot, which obviously isnt right.
Basically I want to go completely back to the start as if the phone hasnt been touched firmware wise, except for the froyo update. I have tried different radios and all do the same. I have backed up all the apps, contacts etc. But I cant find the Official Orange froyo rom, I have debranded the phone so I think i can use a debranded Ruu right? However When i downloaded one and try to flash it through Hboot, It says the utility isnt right and i need to update it. I have no clue what this is. So can someone help me out, I have searched the internet but alot of the threads are not relevant to my phone etc or my carrier.
I hope someone can help. I dont mind if i lose root etc. because i can redo all of that easy enough.

[Q] New to the Android Scene - 2.3.5

Hi Guys,
Sorry to be a pain and make my first post to be pretty much that of bunch of 'dumb and silly' question post but im just a little bit weary about some of the procedures relating to the upgrade of 2.3.5.
BACKUPS
I noticed in the main thread with the how-to about Upgrading to 2.3.5 it states to take a FULL BACKUP - How can one achieve this without a Rooted S-OFF'ed WFS? Understandably I can backup music etc that's on my SD Card already, but is there anything else I should be backing up and if so, what - is there anything such as an application out there?
UNBRANDED
Im just wanting to make sure that by unbranded it means, unlocked to all networks and with no specific network lock on the device or branding?
WILL NETWORK SETTINGS ETC NEED TO BE CHANGED
I had the G1 when it was first launched and can remember having a few problems with rooting and upgrading that device to newer ROMS where-by my network carrier settings (T-Mobile at the time) would not work correctly. Has this problem been rectified?
GOING BACK TO STOCK?
What happens if I don't like the new 2.3.5 version of android, can I roll back to stock, am I stuck on it and if I can roll back, how?
OTA Updates - IF THEY EVER HAPPEN
Finally, I was wondering if using the 'hacked' way of upgrading to 2.3.5 would stop any OTA Updates coming through should my Network Carrier provide any (seems unlikely).
I just want to apologise before-hand if any of the above questions have actually already been answered. I have done some searching and cannot find definitive answers to the questions I have provided and felt it best to provide them in once place. Chances are if im asking them a fair few other people will be thinking them....no?

Surely the WFS community isn't that dead...anyone at all - Speaking to Orange UK they have said they have not heard anything about an update for the WFS this side of Christmas...

Allow me to answer all your questions.....
1.You can backup apps etc... Just temp-root your phone(it is either in the general aur dev section).....then use titanium backup....
2.As far as I know debranding would only mean to remove the bloatware that phone carriers add in some countries.
3.No need to change network settings.
4.Going back to an older version without s-off is currently 55% possible(rounded figures )
5.If you are in the stock ROM...then I don't think OTA updates won't stop even if you are rooted
6.And yes....is your carrier a CDMA one or a GSM one??If it is CDMA then you can s-off your phone easily and you can then root it.....

Thank you for getting back to me. I was just wondering with temp rooting and taking a backup will I lose any data already on my phone etc?
My carrier is Orange UK, which requires a SIM...
Regards
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Just wondering if I need to use Titanium Backup or whether I can use any backup application for this move to 2.3.5?

How to make a full backup before installing roms?

Hello,
I would like to create a full stock backup, I do not care for applications or settings, the only thing I want is full non-rooter, current Gingerbread with ability to install possible upcoming OTA updates.
The reason for this is simple, I want to try out different ICS roms just for fun and then go back to original, HTC Sense 2.1 powered rom.
The question is: How do I do that? I know I can handle rooting the device and installing various things but how do I get back?
Thanks!
PS A link with instructions on how to do that would be nice, I tried searching the forums and Google but nothing legit came out.

If you have already rooted your phone and installed a recovery such as ClockworkMod or 4EXT, reboot into recovery and go to the "Backup" menu and make a full backup.
In the event of problems, you can do a full wipe or factory reset, and then go to the same backup/restore menu to restore your backup from the SD card.

But if the phone is Gingerbread (it is) I have to downgrade first, correct? To Froyo 2.2. So Basically that leaves me with a copy of 2.2 while my phone came with Gingerbread in the first place.
It basically shows that I've changed (downgraded) the software, doesn't it?

stranded.eu said:
But if the phone is Gingerbread (it is) I have to downgrade first, correct? To Froyo 2.2. So Basically that leaves me with a copy of 2.2 while my phone came with Gingerbread in the first place.
It basically shows that I've changed (downgraded) the software, doesn't it?
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If you have ALREADY rooted it, then there is no need to be downgrading back to an exploitable firmware when you've already exploited the phone. If all you're doing is installing a custom rom on an already rooted/unlocked phone then you need only flash the roms via recovery.
You would only have to downgrade the firmware if you for some reason decided to flash the original stock firmware, hboot, etc onto the phone.
But that's least as far as the backups go.
In terms of how to get the phone back to non-root/locked state there's a sticky/wiki for that, though I would find it to be a pain in the butt to have the phone rooted and unlocked and then have to go thru the process of locking it back up only to possibly risk bricking it. The more times you mess with the firmware/radio/hboot the more likely you are to brick it.

Just to make it all clear my phone is kinda new, was never rooted, that's why I'm asking. I still can't believe that HTC doesn't have an app like Xperia has, SEUS to be exact, you can fix any phone with one click. By saying fix I mean install the latest, official rom.
That's too bad there is no other way to root Desire Z.

stranded.eu said:
Just to make it all clear my phone is kinda new, was never rooted, that's why I'm asking. I still can't believe that HTC doesn't have an app like Xperia has, SEUS to be exact, you can fix any phone with one click. By saying fix I mean install the latest, official rom.
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If never rooted there's not much of a way to make a full backup first (since most backup tools like Titanium Backup requires root).
That's too bad there is no other way to root Desire Z.
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Well there is the HTCDev unlocker from HTC themselves, but you actually have better luck following something like cyanogenmod's wiki entry.
Something like this works quite well : http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Vision
You just need to make sure to triple-check all the numbers and messages, someone accidentally skipping 2 or 3 steps multiple times is just asking for problems.
But once rooted (like for my G2 I followed the cyanogenmod steps, and then went another step by upgrading my radio to the latest, I just went with a different rom after being rooted) it's usually best to keep it that way even if you decide to just flash the stock rom (i.e.: still rooted and unlocked, but simply using the original software they provide you, which can be rooted simply by having the su binary and superuser app).
The voiding of warranty usually applies to software, i.e.: you bricked the phone as a result of flashing the wrong hboot. Where as if the screen or eMMC dies, it's a hardware failure and shouldn't be voided simply because the phone was rooted (unless of course they determined you fried your CPU by running the phone at 1.9Ghz constantly).

You could just download a full version of the G2 gingerbread rom from shipped-roms.com and flash that if you ever want/need to go back to stock gingerbread.
-Nipqer