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this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?
If your phone is from a network provider then it will more than likely need rooting even if you just want to flash it with a generic HTC ROM.
If it was purchased SIM free then it should already have a generic ROM and it will just be a matter of time before you get the OTA update.
Have you tried manually chacking for an update on the phone?
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this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?
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Here's how
I'm Rooted and I still want the official update after reading the warning.
1) Make a goldcard using this guide (For Desire too)
2) Download this
3) Double click it and follow the instructions.
4) When the update is ready to be pushed out, you will get a notification.
(taken from the Official foyo update thread....please search or read before making threads like this)
Also consider looking at this
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/307683/howto-unroot-your-htc-desire/
BTW, if you do this you will not be able to unroot again untill a new root is found which could take weeks, or could never happen. You loose the ability to install custom roms, or non sense roms.
@ shetlander: it IS rooted, but i'm not able to flash generic, it simply doesn't work
@jedipottsy: i don't have a micro SD card available, but as i said, the phone IS rooted, so i there any way to do it without one? maybe a dump of a generic firmware instead of a ruu.exe?
edit: i forgot to mention, i had a leaked 2.2 build flashed before, but then flashed back to t-mobile rom. what doesn't work ist the flash to htc europe generic
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@ shetlander: it IS rooted, but i'm not able to flash generic, it simply doesn't work
@jedipottsy: i don't have a micro SD card available, but as i said, the phone IS rooted, so i there any way to do it without one? maybe a dump of a generic firmware instead of a ruu.exe?
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nope, need an sdcard, can't flash an official over an unofficial, you need sd to restore to an older official.
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nope, need an sdcard, can't flash an official over an unofficial, you need sd to restore to an older official.
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well i was able to got to a defrost build and back to stock without goldcard, i don't see why a htc generic can't function (
cant see the advantage of using the official, you loose too much for little gain
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741663 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741755
there is full 2.2 with extras, or plain with root, much easier to install and you dont loose root
thx jedi, i am actually flahshing the thingy with busybox(whatever that does), there's no way i'm gonna miss teeter ^^
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this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?
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Download this rom:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.zip
change the name to PB99IMG and put it on your gold card, boot into recovery and select fastboot, it will install the generic 1.21 rom, then when you check for updates the froyo update will be there, btw doing this wipes everything on your phone. Worked for me although I didn't install the froyo update as I am scared of the bootloader.
You probably get these a lot and I'm sorry for reporting if you have. About 4 days I got an HTC Desire and I know it's only Running Android 2.1 (Eclaire). I've already rooted my phone and what not using the UNrevoked method, and right now it's in the process of loading the Cynagen mod (spell check?), It's been installed correctly, it just seems to be taking a while to load (off topic but is that normal), I Was wondering if there was any possible way to load Froyo onto via mod or and upcoming update. Any step in the right direction, Im new to Android but I do want to become affluent with them.
Alright I got it working, but now unfortunately I just don't think this mod is for me. Is there a way to revert back to the cell phones factory OS?
If you can find an official Cellular ROM you can flash it and revert to stock, unfortunately I don't think there is a leaked one.
I guess I could bring it into my provider and see if they can completely erase and reinstall the operating system, I found an Official Froyo Rom, but I'm having trouble installing it. I installed the radio correctly, but the Official Froyo itselfs keeps aborting.
Keeps saying its 'bad' idk maybe its a bad download but I got it off of XDA.
If you go with a modified software to your provider they may very well decide that your warranty is invalid now.
Can you give a link to the rom you say you've found.
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If you go with a modified software to your provider they may very well decide that your warranty is invalid now.
Can you give a link to the rom you say you've found.
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This is thelike to the ROM to upgrade phone to Froyo 2.2, at this point i want to revert back to the to the stock OS, being supposebly Froyo 2.2 will be here for it in jan, but idk its been postponed 234 times now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
I cant help but feel like im not installing the radio correctly, its talking about using a rom manager but from what i've read ROM MAnager should do jut fine. Either that or Cyanogen isn't wanting it to go away.
Well i found a thread on there forums...
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/9270-stock-us-cellular-rom-request/ According the the posters its not COMPLETELY stock but its close enough. Hopefully Froyo will come soon (hopefully)
Right on the second one worked I might try to install that one on a later day.
ok guys i have a couple of doubts
1) how do i install froyo on 2.51(nondowngradable) bootloader?
2)if it is possible is there a way to unroot the phone and take it back to the "just out of the store" condition.(for warranty reasons).
thanks in advance
come on guys isnt there anyone who has their phone in 2.51 rom????
somebody please give me a reply
What's the safest way to install Froyo on 2.51?
shajumohamed said:
ok guys i have a couple of doubts
1) how do i install froyo on 2.51(nondowngradable) bootloader?
2)if it is possible is there a way to unroot the phone and take it back to the "just out of the store" condition.(for warranty reasons).
thanks in advance
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I'm new to Android and XDA and I would also like answers to these questions. My phone came with 2.51.1 system/build too. Which I assume is (nondowngradable).
Over at - and-developers .com /sbf:defy
I see mention of Android2.1Eclair 2.51uk Roms and 2.51eu Roms, are these interchangeable? I live in Australia, ordered my phone online, the stores shipping records suggest it came from Hong Kong, I open the box and the small manual is in Italian, and a couple of the Tips RSS widgets pre-installed are in Italian (no biggy). System Version states: Blur_Version.2.51.1.MB525.Retail.en.IT so I take this to suggest I should grab the 2.1 Central Europe JRDNEM_U3_2.51.1 as a backup SBF. But this states it does not contain Blur, and is not rootable(is that still accurate?). My phone has blur and I have rooted it with SuperOneClick so a blurless non rootable SBF doesn't seem a reliable backup to return my phone to it's original state if at some stage I need to (perhaps when Motorola finally rollout Froyo or Gingerbread for the Defy).
It's all very confusing at the moment.
This maybe handy for anyone else with 2.51.1. With rooting my stock 2.51.1 I found that z4root.apk did not work. But SuperOneClick did. And to boot into recovery you can from the app or from a powered off phone hold "volume down" and "power on" and when the !exclamation mark and green android appear, tap the lower right corner of the screen to enter recovery.
Hopefully someone can give us answers
+1 I also Have this unit. I have blur_version.2.51.1.mb525.retail.en.it in the system info. Rooted mine with SuperOneClick and the z4root never worked. Installed System Recovery and everything goes well. Now I would like to try some ROMs posted here but before I do that, I don't know what are the necessary precautions/infos before applying those ROM in the recovery..
Please someone englighten us here?
I went from 2.51.1 to froyo
u just restore the rom that u want, and then flash "2.2 tmo boot only" with RSD lite
but check for detailed instructions in the rom topic ur trying to install
Isn't there's still a bug that whenever you use the chinese froyo, the camera won't be working?
Hi guys!
First of all, I did a lot of research on the dev forums, and surely I've learned a lot, but somethings are still not clear for me.
My Defy runs a stock branded Eclair, but I'd like to try Froyo ROMs and also the CM7 port. I don't want to lose the ability of coming back to the stock firmware, though. As far as I understand, I have to make a nandroid backup of my phone and then Flash the Froyo ROM without CG31 and CG39, so that I can go back to the original firmware. I've understood that CG31 is something related to phone signature, and CG39 related to system partition. But will the Froyo ROM work without the CG39 flashed? Is there any resultant difference of flashing a full ROM and a "fixed" ROM besides losing the downgrade ability?
I couldn't find any description of what each CG is responsible for, do you guys have any link?
Also, on every ROM thread, someone asks for a nandroid backup of it. Why? Is it easier to flash ou flashing through a nandroid backup preserves the downgrade possibility too?
My phone infos:
System Version:
Blur_Version.6.36.1.MB525.Vivo.en.BR
Firmware Version:
2.1-update1
Version Number:
JORLA_U3_6.36.1
Thanks very much for the attention!
Daniel
The Korean Froyo will let you downgrade back to Eclair.
Its the only sbf (atm) you can flash directly and still go back.
Otherwise you need to use a nandroid and fixed sbf of the Froyo version you want to use.
People want a nandroid because the way around not being able to downgrade is to make up a 'full' rom using the nandroid + a fixed sbf.
So a nandroid gives you CG39 and the fixed sbf makes up the rest of the CG's; thus a 'full' rom.
Rather then flash a full sbf and lose the means to downgrade.
Fixed sbf's exist already: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
Codegroups: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11195544
Btw should also mention Daniel here is smarter than the average bear; he reads before trying . . . . P
Fritolays, thank you for the ultra-fast response!
In fact I've been reading threads here for more than one week... Obviously it's possible to learn a lot from intuition and observing things, but there are moments in which pieces of the puzzle start to miss, because a lot of informations are implicit on the threads or treated like already known by people who are discussing it, what's pretty normal methinks, but makes it a little difficult for the new ones to understand things.
For instance, before reading your reply I was thinking that one should flash the fixed sbf OR the nandroid backup, because I believed they had similar purposes...
So, this also means that when going back from Froyo to original Eclair I'll also need a Eclair sbf besides my nandroid backup, right? Does it have to be a specific one to match my nandroid backup or not?
Also, do you recommend flashing the full Korean Froyo ROM or another ROM with fixed sbf plus nandroid backup?
To receive the official Motorola Froyo upgrade whenever (if ever) ready I'll have to have my stock firmware, right?
Thanks and cheers from Brazil!
To go back to Eclair, yes you will need an Eclair sbf. Though is does not need to be the exact same version (just dont use 2.51, prevents downgrade); as your nandroid will overwrite the system partition with your Eclair version. Just need the sbf to restore the other codegroups.
Personally I just use the Korean Froyo as a starting point. Saves on headaches because you can just flash the sbf. Dont need to install recovery then restore nandroid then flash fixed sbf. Less rebooting P
Ya to get the official moto Froyo, if they ever decide to release it, you will most likely need to be on an Eclair build. But to be honest who cares; with Quarx working on Gingerbread, motorola can shove it. Why have 2.2.2 when he's working on 2.3.3 ? hehe
Hope this help !
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To go back to Eclair, yes you will need an Eclair sbf. Though is does not need to be the exact same version (just dont use 2.51, prevents downgrade);
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When flashing Eclair back from Froyo should I flash the whole sbf and then restore nandroid backup or should I left CG31 and CG39 out like if I were upgrading with a fixed rom?
fritolays said:
as your nandroid will overwrite the system partition with your Eclair version. Just need the sbf to restore the other codegroups.
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Do you know what CGs are present in a Nandroid backup?
fritolays said:
Personally I just use the Korean Froyo as a starting point. Saves on headaches because you can just flash the sbf. Dont need to install recovery then restore nandroid then flash fixed sbf. Less rebooting P
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It saves on headaches but if I don't install recovery, although I'll be able to flash Korean Froyo directly, there will be no way to backup my firmware and so even if I am able to downgrade I won't have my backup to do so. Right?
fritolays said:
Ya to get the official moto Froyo, if they ever decide to release it, you will most likely need to be on an Eclair build. But to be honest who cares; with Quarx working on Gingerbread, motorola can shove it. Why have 2.2.2 when he's working on 2.3.3 ? hehe
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You are right but don't forget about warranty! Say my camera or touchscreen stop working, they will put the blame on the modded firmware, so I have to be able to go forth and back to keep things official if needed.
fritolays said:
Hope this help !
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Sure you're helping! Thank you very much!
danimagrin said:
When flashing Eclair back from Froyo should I flash the whole sbf and then restore nandroid backup or should I left CG31 and CG39 out like if I were upgrading with a fixed rom?
Do you know what CGs are present in a Nandroid backup?
It saves on headaches but if I don't install recovery, although I'll be able to flash Korean Froyo directly, there will be no way to backup my firmware and so even if I am able to downgrade I won't have my backup to do so. Right?
You are right but don't forget about warranty! Say my camera or touchscreen stop working, they will put the blame on the modded firmware, so I have to be able to go forth and back to keep things official if needed.
Sure you're helping! Thank you very much!
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Yup to downgrade flash the full sbf, then your nandroid - fixed sbf's are for going up in versions.
Doesnt really work that way. It backs up your data, cache and system partitions.
Make a backup before you flash the sbf. The backup gets saved to your sdcard card so you can copy it to your computer. That way even if recovery gets deleted from flashing a full sbf you can just re-install recovery, copy your nandroid back to your sdcard, restore it and be on your merry way.
I void warranties. ) At this point its your call. Just to note though officially moto will not fix your phone if it has a leaked version on it. Official ones are ok, and the Korean one is the only official Froyo one out there.
When one sends something for repair here in Brazil they ask for the proof of purchase/invoice (don't know what's the best word for that in English). So, you know... It's a little strange... A phone bought in Brazil running Korean software. They will complain immediately But I won't worry about that.
I've read the CGs thread. Unfortunately there isn't a long explanation about what each CG is responsible for, but only a short description for some of them, and no description for 32, 35, 42, 45, 53, 61, 64 and 65.
However, as far as I understood, some CGs stay the same but some change between different ROM versions. So, if I reflash Eclair after Froyo and restore my Nandroid Backup, despite having the same data, cache and system partitions, some CGs will be different from the firmware I'm running now. Any issues about that, if I choose to stay with Eclair after all?
I've sucessfully made the nandroid backup of my phone.
But just to make sure I understand things, I would like to make one last question. I couldn't find the exact sbf of my firmware on the internet (JORLA_U3_6.36.1).
So, if I need to reflash 2.1, it won't be JORLA_U3_6.36.1.
Will my nandroid backup work together with any other 2.1 sbf than the JORLA_U3_6.36.1? For instance, will it work if I flash JRDNEM_U3_2.21.0, that I can find on the internet?
Thank you...
danimagrin said:
When one sends something for repair here in Brazil they ask for the proof of purchase/invoice (don't know what's the best word for that in English). So, you know... It's a little strange... A phone bought in Brazil running Korean software. They will complain immediately But I won't worry about that.
I've read the CGs thread. Unfortunately there isn't a long explanation about what each CG is responsible for, but only a short description for some of them, and no description for 32, 35, 42, 45, 53, 61, 64 and 65.
However, as far as I understood, some CGs stay the same but some change between different ROM versions. So, if I reflash Eclair after Froyo and restore my Nandroid Backup, despite having the same data, cache and system partitions, some CGs will be different from the firmware I'm running now. Any issues about that, if I choose to stay with Eclair after all?
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I don't think some CG's stay the same when you flash an sbf, I believe its the CG version that changes. For instance if a particular CG is at version 2 on your phone, some froyo full flashes may update that CG to version 3, and thus you cannot flash back down to a version 2, you can only flash CGs that are the same version or higher.
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I don't think some CG's stay the same when you flash an sbf, I believe its the CG version that changes. For instance if a particular CG is at version 2 on your phone, some froyo full flashes may update that CG to version 3, and thus you cannot flash back down to a version 2, you can only flash CGs that are the same version or higher.
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You're right indeed, but as far as i know some CGs do stay the same between different sbf versions, as you can see, for example, in this comparison taken from CM7 thread:
sunoldman said:
If you depack a full sbf, you will find several CG??.smg files. Here's a comparison between 3.4.3_11 and 3.4.2_177.
Code:
CG31 cdt Codegroup Description Table same
CG32 bploader Baseband Processor Bootloader same
CG33 cdrom CDROM diff
CG34 lbl Linux Bootloader same
CG35 boot Android Boot Image diff
CG39 system Android System diff
CG42 logo boot logo diff
CG45 bpsw Baseband Processor Firmware diff
CG47 recovery Android Recovery Image diff
CG53 kpanic Kernel Panic Console same
CG61 devtree Device Tree same
CG64 mbr eMMC Master Boot Record same
CG65 ebr eMMC Extended Boot Record same
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Just forgot to mention that this also means, obviously, that CGs having same version can binarly differ...
Very useful information for Android beginners like me, but the most important question still remains - is full sbf of the stock ROM is required in case of downgrade to the stock version? Or can I use nandroid backup of my stock ROM together with different version of Eclair sbf?
The problem is that I cannot find full sbf of my stock ROM, but I want to be able to get back to it if needed.
Agreed, some code groups can stay the same. I wonder what the procedure is to work out what version a CG is?
Actually a database/table of s/w versions along with the CG numbers and version would be a good resourse to help people understand what downgradability options they have by knowing what versions they are flashing to their phones.
mindugo said:
Very useful information for Android beginners like me, but the most important question still remains - is full sbf of the stock ROM is required in case of downgrade to the stock version? Or can I use nandroid backup of my stock ROM together with different version of Eclair sbf?
The problem is that I cannot find full sbf of my stock ROM, but I want to be able to get back to it if needed.
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Have you tried to plug your device to your PC and seeing if the Motorola Software Update tool detects any software versions for it? If so it will download the complete sbf from motorola servers to your Hard Drive.
kashavsehra said:
Agreed, some code groups can stay the same. I wonder what the procedure is to work out what version a CG is?
Actually a database/table of s/w versions along with the CG numbers and version would be a good resourse to help people understand what downgradability options they have by knowing what versions they are flashing to their phones.
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Used MotoAndroidDepacker (also used to fix SBFs) to extract individual CGs, than the app from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=945035 to tell each CGs' version. To compare CGs you can use good old linux diff command.
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Very useful information for Android beginners like me, but the most important question still remains - is full sbf of the stock ROM is required in case of downgrade to the stock version? Or can I use nandroid backup of my stock ROM together with different version of Eclair sbf?
The problem is that I cannot find full sbf of my stock ROM, but I want to be able to get back to it if needed.
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I had the same doubt as yours because I couldn't find the exact sbf of my stock ROM also, but I've tested my stock ROM Nandroid backup (Eclair) and it worked together with every different Eclair SBF I tried, independently whether the "helper" sbf was full or fixed or the CG version it had. Just be aware that even a Eclair ROM may have greater CG version than the one installed on your phone so if you flash one of these you won't be able to come back using a full sbf (if you had it...). However if you lock your phone you can always downgrade using fixed sbf + nandroid backup.
Don't know if I was clear enough, I know this is confuse to explain.
It's easier if you tell your stock rom version and what you want to do exactly.
Feel free to ask if you have any doubts...
Question about update and downgrade
Hello android people!
I'm new to android world, and i have done some things, differente from daniel.........i didn't read sufficiently before, and i already have make some upgrades.
I installed a sbf file - 3.4.2-117 002 blur usa
I wanna know if i can go back to Eclair sbf, just like daniel asked, cause i'm from Brazil and i have the same thing he sayed, about lose the warranty.
Another question, i get the 3.4.3-11 blur usa, the one Quarz from CM7 recomend to install.
If i install that sbf, can i downgrade to the one that i'm already using, or to the Eclair sbf??
Thanks everybody, i starting to like very much this forum, and the android world.
Cheers
Hey guys, I was thinking of installing cm7 on my motorola defy but the problem is that its a t-mobile uk version that has been unlocked using an unlock code. Right now I can use any sim with this phone but after installing cm7 will the phone lock itself back to t-mo? I don't have the unlock code for this phone so it would be really disastrous for me if it were to lock itself. should I be worried?
I found a tutorial here that un brands the motorola defy, does that mean the phone would be unlocked? My phone is currently running android 2.2.2 official uk build with baseband epu_93_00.59.02 kernel version 2.6.32.9 and build number jorem_u3_3.4.2_179-6.1.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Sent from my MB525 using XDA
Yes it should be safe.
I haven't done it myself, but here's why I say so:
1- during the process of updating to a custom rom, everyone should create a full nandroid backup of their current stock rom right after installing 2nd-Init. That way, if things don't work out with custom rom [or for warranty purposes] one can easily return to that original setup with a nand restore [and un-rooting];
2- there is a thread regarding sim unlocking the Defy here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22227859 but I bet you will not even have to deal with it...But if you do, it's there for you and you'll find help from others users I'm sure.
Don't waste anymore time and give a shot at CM7; I'm sure that you'll never go back to stock rom afterwards ;-)
Cheers
Ok one last question. My baseband is greater than the version listed on that thread. It is .02 and I have heard that downgrading your baseband is usually not safe?
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that shouldn't be a problem either.
In fact, Maniac103 just recently changed the way we set baseband on cm7; no more dedicated apk.. it's now all done through Device Settings.
If you're still worried [and To be on the safe side, in addition the the nand backup before installing a custom rom], also make a copy of this whole folder (current radio files) from your stock rom:
system/etc/motorola/bp_mvn_default
so that you can revert to them (make a flashable zip w them) if needed.
Anyhow, no big risk involved if you do it that way.
Good luck and have fun.
Thank You for your help!
as far as I know unlock is retained no matter what rom u are on...
not 100% sure...
let us know how this works out...
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium
SBFs on Motorola Defy
I read the Motorola Defy beginners guide but I don't understand some stuff. I am already on the latest SBF deployed by T-Mobile UK i.e JOREM_U3_3.4.2_179-6.1 as shown in settings Build Number. When we install Custom ROMs lets say CM7, do these ROMs change the SBF? If yes, then how do I know if it is a Fixed SBF or a Full SBF? If I want to come back to the official build of which I would be making a backup in case I need to get warranty (I still have 6 months of warranty) then do I need to again install the Full SBF taken from the link Zephyrot posted?
If CM7 does not modify or change the SBF then I think I would be pretty much safe in just restoring the official 2.2.2 froyo build without worrying much about SBFs, unroot the phone using SuperOneClick and taking it back to the service center. Right?
And lastly I have the SOC Defy, checked it using CatLog. Does the stable build downloaded from the CynaogenMod website of CM7 work OOB? Zephyrot suggested that sometimes you need to do additional stuff for everything to work correctly.
To go back to stock state, there are two options: 1) you restore a nand backup and like you said, you have to remove SU and unroot. This ain't so easy to do, but is sometimes the only option for people not having their stock sbf available. 2) access STOCK recovery and wipe everything and then flash their stock sbf.
Once rooted and 2nd init installed, I still recommend to create a nand backup of your stock/current state before using a custom rom anyway.
Could be useful if you ever need to go back (outside warranty) to stock rom with all your apps still installed...
Sbf is stock firmware; custom rom replace and build upon that software. I think you meant kernel? But anyhow, I suggest you to first go with ghe latest Maniac103 latest build as it includes boot.img and devtree; no need for anything else and it is rock solid and lightning fast.
Get it here: https://github.com/maniac103/android_device_motorola_jordan/downloads#download_187690
It works superbly
Thanks guys, everything works superbly. The phone didn't lock and it feels like a dead man has been given a life back again!