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A question for my fellow Rhodium owners: What phone do you plan on (with the information on hand) going to next?
I'm on AT&T, and won't switch for many legacy reasons. I feel like there's no good options at this time. If I want to stay Windows Mobile, I either lose HTC or the keyboard, neither of which seems like an upgrade to me. If I go Android, the only good keyboard HTC phone is the Desire Z, and AT&T hasn't announced it yet. I want to stick with HTC on AT&T, but it looks like if I need a keyboard, it's LG WinPho7, or Samsung Android. Are there any better options? What are the rest of you, devotees of the amazing tilt keyboard form factor, planning on doing with this next generation of phones?
MS is unveiling Windows Phone 7 today, and a whole slew of phones have been announced for ATT, Sprint, and T-Mob. Many of the handsets will be available in the next couple months. WP7 is still an unknown. But MS has dumped lots of $$$ and time into its development. It remains to be seen if the new OS can compete with iOS4 and Android, but its worth considering.
Phonedog says the phones have appeared on ATT's website, but I can't find them. The HTC offering from ATT seems like an odd form factor, with a slide-out speaker instead of a keyboard. Multi-media is nice, but it doesn't trump the functionality of the keyboard, for me.
http://www.phonedog.com/2010/10/11/htc-surround-samsung-focus-lg-quantum-appear-on-at-t-s-site/
Sprint may have gotten the best successor to the TP2, in the form of the 7 Pro. Considering the name, this may be the "real" successor to the Touch Pro line. Looks like it even includes the tilt screen, and the 5th row of keys for the numbers; features which are both missing from HTC's recent keyboard-toting Android options (Desire Z and the T-Mobile G2).
http://www.phonedog.com/2010/10/11/htc-announces-five-windows-phone-7-devices-including-7-pro-for-sprint/
Assuming WP7 is up to the hype, we can hope and pray a version of the 7 Pro will come to ATT. But I'll bet we are in for a wait, if we get it at all. I'm in the same boat, as I am on ATT and don't plan to switch anytime soon.
Yeah, the HTC Surround, with the slide out speaker, seems useless. The sliding form-factor makes the phone really thick compared with a standard touch phone, and without a keyboard, there's not enough of a trade-off.
Thank you for posting the link to the 7 Pro, which seems like the best phone I've seen all year, and definitely the perfect successor to the Touch Pro 2. Given the Tilt's history with AT&T, I'm going nuts here that AT&T isn't getting it, at least not yet. Please, HTC, promise me it's coming!
I'm going to have to upgrade in the next six months if I don't hear about a "coming soon" keyboard phone that's going to make it work waiting a little longer, so somebody better start leaking info...
Here it is at Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-pro-first-hands-on/
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/10/htc7pro33.jpg
This phone has me salivating. I was ready to jump ship to Android, but if this comes to AT&T, I think I can give Microsoft another 2 years easy.
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Here it is at Engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-pro-first-hands-on/
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/10/htc7pro33.jpg
This phone has me salivating. I was ready to jump ship to Android, but if this comes to AT&T, I think I can give Microsoft another 2 years easy.
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7 Pro
Look at that 7 Pro...
My goodness...thats my next. Without a doubt, although they say it's only coming to Sprint in the US, hopefully they will make an unlocked/gsm version. I'm on Tmo and I've never had 3G since before the TP2 I have the TyTn2. I don't think HTC would be that ignorant as to not release the 7 Pro on a GSM carrier in the US, It would make absolutely no sense.
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Look at that 7 Pro...
My goodness...thats my next. Without a doubt, although they say it's only coming to Sprint in the US, hopefully they will make an unlocked/gsm version. I'm on Tmo and I've never had 3G since before the TP2 I have the TyTn2. I don't think HTC would be that ignorant as to not release the 7 Pro on a GSM carrier in the US, It would make absolutely no sense.
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I agree. I can't find any sales figures, but the Touch Pro 2 occupies a very important business professional niche in the market, and HTC would be ill-advised to abandon it. Expecially when they've already got an amazing design, it wouldn't make sense to limit yourself just to Sprint. After all, Sprint exclusives aren't exactly tearing up the market.
htc 7 pro. looks niice.
linky.
Nothing I've seen so far has the same 5 row killer hardware keyboard as the TP2 so far (including the Desire-Z). It really is unsurpassed. At the same time, capacitive screens, touchscreen keyboards and the predictive algorithms behind them have got so much better than when the TP2 was designed, and we have Swype as well.
Based on this fact, it isn't necessarily a compromise to move away from a hardware keyboard nowadays. It depends on what you find important on your phone. I like photography and browsing on a large display and it'll be great to have a decent camera on me wherever I go. My next phone will probably be the Motorola XT720 Milestone as a result.
Touch pro 7 looks good but why the hell did they give it only a 3.6' screen? With the size of the phone they could have easily stretched the screen size to 4' or made it 3.7' at least, so it doesnt look like a downgrade for us TP2 owners. If that screen was 4', I would have been tempted to go for a WP7 phone but for now I still want to go 'De Android Way'
Right now, I have lost my interest in the Desire Z cos of the delays issues we have here in Europe. I would have gone for the Samsung Epic but we are not getting here so for now I will be putting off my next phone purchase for about 8 months or so, say June 2011.
Right now I am not sure what my next phone will be. I already have a HD2 along with my TP2 and Touch HD. I prefer WM but I rather wait on WM7 until one of our Great Chefs/Developers port it for the HD2 so I can evaluate the OS
it should be HTC 7 Pro
My two bits.
I knew wm phones before and had decided never to make the same mistake of having one as my main phone again. The only thing that changed that was the full qwerty 5 row keyboard.
I will only change to a much better processor, and i repeat MUCH better, no smaller screen, larger battery (don't care if the phone gets bigger) and multi touch screen.
Again much much better processor
i went from a tilt 2 to htc evo. i love my evo but i miss my tilting screen and keyboard dearly. it would be more forgivable if the evo supported blue tooth hid keyboard support but stock rom does not and the only ROM that does, which is very popular, is a ROM that i don't like, aka cm6.
i poked around here tonight to see exactly what the op was after and i don't think we have anything in the future like some of want.
another thing is that i have pleged that i will not have another wm phone, me and my family stuck with wm since 8125 and we now have the same out look as m$ when it comes to wm. this is the only reason for stipulating aos.
here is my dream phone
aos
4.3 led capcitive
slide/ tilting keyboard
2 cameras
1 ghz plus cpu
dedicated gcpu
1GBram
16GB internal
sd external
bright leds on back for flash and light
it needs to stay thin and have good sound and battery life, lol
plus all the other things we have come to expect from a smart phone.
price: less than $500
basically, touch pro + evo + some upgrades.
Im also wondering what my next phone will be. Im afraid to switch to android for fear its too 'dumbed down' compared to what Im used to, but it appears theres enough android hacking going on that it will probably be fine. I use outlook sync and know that can be a pita with android.
Im also afraid WP7 may be too dumbed down as well. No 3rd party multitasking and cut and paste? what are they thinking?
Anyway, love the looks of the 7 pro, but am I reading it correctly that it doesnt have a microSD slot? that cant be right
Sounds like my dream phone... and u know its possible, but will they make it?? And for all the carriers like the galaxy did... of course not, they feel the need to keep us asking for more
potna said:
here is my dream phone
aos
4.3 led capcitive
slide/ tilting keyboard
2 cameras
1 ghz plus cpu
dedicated gcpu
1GBram
16GB internal
sd external
bright leds on back for flash and light
it needs to stay thin and have good sound and battery life, lol
plus all the other things we have come to expect from a smart phone.
price: less than $500
basically, touch pro + evo + some upgrades.
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My next phone will be the VzW version of the EVO, to come out soon.
I'll keep my TP2 till she dies ... but after a (very) short memorial service/wake, I'll get the EVO. Cool like the TP2, but makes the iPhoneys jealous!
Oh and my dream phone should be water proof, lol
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well i always like phone that you can use with one hand.. hint hint t-mobile shadow 1, the touch pro2 was a nice switch but the t-mobile shadow had some advantage over it with it compact qwerty key pad, to sum it up the dell venue might be my next purchase... looking at the touch pro 7 spec it looks like Microsoft hint the jack pot using the first gen of snapdragon processor to power these deceive without having to use the second or third line up of snapdragon processor.
with that being said i feel like there not going to pull an iphone on me.... dell venue S, dell venue 2 SS, dell venue's SS 2.5, dell venue 3G, dell venu.... well u get the point
does anybody know if the dell ven going to support nextflic
The 7 Pro is amazing hardware, but the OS kills it. I just hope HTC brings the form factor to Android.
I've been using the HTC Touch Pro 2 since last April with T-Mobile. I've absolutely loved the functionality, including ability to customize the ROM(<3 Energy), simple to use web browsing, texting, email, wifi router, bluetooth ability, and many other features that come with the smart phones. I'd die right now during school/work/personal stuff without the calendar.
When I bought it last year, the HD2 was sitting next to it, and the reason I went with the HD2 was the hardware keyboard. Software keyboards annoy the heck out of me unless they're well done. I could type 5 times faster on my TP2 than an ipod touch. But, what is getting to me now after using the TP2 for 10 months?
- Camera: Quality isn't high enough compared to other shots I've seen taken by phones. I switch the lighting settings to tweak it, but it's still grainy. I as in a dark club the other night, and watched someone take pictures that were noticeably clearer than mine.
- Lack of 3.5mm Headset Adapter. I have to use the HTC USB -> 3.5mm adapter to listen with earbuds to music. Annoying.
Like I said, the hardware keyboard is almost necessity, but I could learn to deal with a software if it's not the kind that can be easily fat fingered.
That's all I can think of right now. Any help with the phone upgrade process would be greatly appreciated.
i think your first decision is probably are you going to stay with windows phone 7, android, iOS, or webOS.
Almost all of these software has some nice phones with physical keyboard. 3.5mm headphone jack (it's pretty much standard now with most high-end phones). If you want a good camera, go with the phone with led flash support then you probabaly will be fine.
PUTALE said:
i think your first decision is probably are you going to stay with windows phone 7, android, iOS, or webOS.
Almost all of these software has some nice phones with physical keyboard. 3.5mm headphone jack (it's pretty much standard now with most high-end phones). If you want a good camera, go with the phone with led flash support then you probabaly will be fine.
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I liked the TP2 after I got it because it was an operating environment I was used to and familiar with. I haven't used any other one, so I can't comment on it. What are examples of phones with hardware keyboards that have the same, if not better functionality than the TP2, including the things I listed of any OS? The HD2 and HD7 look enticing, but if there's something similar that might suit my needs better, I'm just looking for suggestions.
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I liked the TP2 after I got it because it was an operating environment I was used to and familiar with. I haven't used any other one, so I can't comment on it. What are examples of phones with hardware keyboards that have the same, if not better functionality than the TP2, including the things I listed of any OS? The HD2 and HD7 look enticing, but if there's something similar that might suit my needs better, I'm just looking for suggestions.
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If the keyboard is what you care about, then perhaps you should simply wait for the HTC 7 Pro to be available. It is basically the Touch Pro2 on steroids. It is the successor to the TP2 and runs WP7. There's a thread with a bunch of useful information HERE.
I'm in same boat as you, trying to figure which phone next. Still cannot decide and will give it another year, mainly because 3G networks are in a state of flux where I live (now still using EDGE). I will likely either go to Android if I can get the sync with MS Office to my liking or WM7 if the apps take off. No interest in other phones.
As for headphones on TP2, I have a nice bluetooth set by Jabra that does away with need for jack.
I was in the same boat as you a couple months ago when my contract ended with my provider. I had been looking at WP7 since the first whiff of it came out, but the more I read about it the more I disliked it. Long story short I greatly dislike all of these current operating systems for varying reasons.
So eventually I decided that the TP2 was as good as it was going to get for me for now, and bought up a couple extra of them. They're relatively cheap, and they all should last me until I cannot physically use them anymore (carrier doesnt support for some reason, or I can't find any good batteries, etc..) or until some company makes something desirable for me.
My advice is that you research at length all of your options before you end up with something you don't like using. It took me a lot of time playing around with android and WP7 before I decided I didn't want any of them. The TP2 is an excellent device and Windows Mobile is an excellent OS, don't let anyone fool you into thinking otherwise.
As far as your complaints, 3.2 MP is enough for me and my carrier's TP2 includes a headphone jack.. So I guess we're not in the same boat in those regards...
maybe an evo shift 4g?
http://www.htc.com/us/products/shift-sprint#overview
and i dont know where you live, but in europe we have an HTC Desire Z
Check out my review/comparison of the Desire Z (T-Mobile G2) to the Touch Pro 2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955526
A friend of mine works at T-Mobile, and can have any phone he wants (that T-Mobile carries). His weapon of choice is the G2.
redpoint73 said:
Check out my review/comparison of the Desire Z (T-Mobile G2) to the Touch Pro 2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955526
A friend of mine works at T-Mobile, and can have any phone he wants (that T-Mobile carries). His weapon of choice is the G2.
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I'm in a similar boat... I love the TP2 for it's design, had a Tilt before so this was a great upgrade. But there's nothing that's coming out from HTC that I've seen or heard of that looks like an upgrade. The 7 Pro is kind of an upgrade, but not the same kind of amazing upgrade like the Tilt to Tilt 2... I would like a slightly larger/better display but also keep the physical kb... I've been lookin at the Atrix (even tho they say you can't put custom roms on it yet), just cuz it sounds pretty sick but I keep hoping a phone w/ a kb comes out. Looks like Dell is gonna bring something out but not til the end of this year I think... I really hope HTC brings out a Tilt 3 w/ a 4-4.3in screen, better camera, runnin android since I don't really like WP7 & a dual processor...lol
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I'm in a similar boat... I love the TP2 for it's design, had a Tilt before so this was a great upgrade. But there's nothing that's coming out from HTC that I've seen or heard of that looks like an upgrade. The 7 Pro is kind of an upgrade, but not the same kind of amazing upgrade like the Tilt to Tilt 2... I would like a slightly larger/better display but also keep the physical kb... I've been lookin at the Atrix (even tho they say you can't put custom roms on it yet), just cuz it sounds pretty sick but I keep hoping a phone w/ a kb comes out. Looks like Dell is gonna bring something out but not til the end of this year I think... I really hope HTC brings out a Tilt 3 w/ a 4-4.3in screen, better camera, runnin android since I don't really like WP7 & a dual processor...lol
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The Atrix concept looks very cool, but I've been pretty underwhelmed by the recent Motorola handsets. They just feel cheap and clunky compared to HTC phones. But maybe they can step it up a notch. Similarly, the Dell Streak seemed like nothing special that just about every other manufacturer couldn't match or do better. And there were some things, like the proprietary dock connector, that were outright inexcusable. Again, they are going to need to kick it up a notch to get me remotely interested in their products.
I agree that a slightly larger screen (maybe around 3.9 or 4.0 in) would be really nice for watching video, and make the on-screen keyboard easier to use (for the times you don't feel the need to flip out the hardward keyboard). But I think a 4.3 in display with a hardware keyboard would result in a really big, thick, heavy phone.
But I have to say, the Desire Z is a pretty sick upgrade over the Tilt2. Maybe not in terms of form factor, but in terms of just about everything else.
I have no upgrades available for a long time so I'd be buying retail. The 7 pro looks quite interesting. Maybe I'll stop buy the T-Mobile store and see how the desire z feels. Is there much of a change over the TP2 to go to a Desire Z?
I've somewhat fixed the no 3.5mm jack issue by buying a bluetooth headset that supports a2dp. I guess that'll hold me over until later this year if I upgrade.
raz1337 said:
I have no upgrades available for a long time so I'd be buying retail. The 7 pro looks quite interesting. Maybe I'll stop buy the T-Mobile store and see how the desire z feels. Is there much of a change over the TP2 to go to a Desire Z?
I've somewhat fixed the no 3.5mm jack issue by buying a bluetooth headset that supports a2dp. I guess that'll hold me over until later this year if I upgrade.
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The keyboard on the Desire Z is smaller than the Touch Pro2, but most people who own it say that it still feels very nice. I would miss my dedicated number row, though. I've gotten very used to it.
i have loved my touch pro 2 for the past year or so and all the devs, everyone at XDA made me love it even more. my girlfriend has an iphone and ill never ever trade my phone for iOS and theres not any other phone carried by ATT that is any better than the touch pro 2 i think..but then the Atrix came along. its a sad realization but you cant compare the specs of our touch pros to any of these new devices. sure im sacrificing the full qwerty kb we all know and love and moving on from winmo 6.5 (that ive grown with since 5.x) but i feel like its for the better. especially with all the wear and tear ive put my phone thru, sure is one hell of a trooper thats for sure, its time to set it down and ive made my decision. expecting my atrix to arrive this coming monday. so with this goodluck to all with whatever you decide!
Phone after TP2
I'm also investigating new phones (although doing so would also require me to give up my sero plan, which seems unlikely at the moment).
For me on Sprint, there seems to be a few major choices that include a physical keyboard that I was looking at:
Android:
-HTC EVO Shift
-Samsung Epic 4G
WP7:
-[upcoming] HTC 7 Pro
The EVO shift has a similar sized screen to the TP2, while the Epic 4G goes a bit larger (4") and has a faster processor (1 Ghz vs. 800 Mhz on the Evo Shift). Nonetheless, I'm still pretty turned off by the touchwiz UI on the Epic 4g -- a bit to cartoony for my tastes.
Since the 7 pro is essentially the successor to the TP2, the dimensions are pretty similar albeit with an upgraded processor (1 Ghz).
I'm currently running XDAndroid on the TP2, so I have a sense of how android works, but I've never tried WP7 -- after classic WinMo I'm still kind of hesitant to go back to Microsoft.
To anyone who has been using WP7 -- any thoughts on the disadvantages/advantages over android?
I guess the most obvious phone would be the HTC 7 pro closely followed by the Desire Z.
Personally i decided to keep my TP2 after 2 years (i can pick a new phone @ my provider in june). The phone does everything i want.
The only program i miss on Windows Mobile is WhatsApp/pingchat
FeareX said:
I guess the most obvious phone would be the HTC 7 pro closely followed by the Desire Z.
Personally i decided to keep my TP2 after 2 years (i can pick a new phone @ my provider in june). The phone does everything i want.
The only program i miss on Windows Mobile is WhatsApp/pingchat
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I get the Desire Z. I went to T-Mobile hoping to find one to even hold and play with, but didn't see one. I'm just really hung up on the hardware keyboard when considering an HD7. The hardware keyboard makes me want to pump out paragraphs of forum posts on the phone. The software keyboard makes me hate texting.
Same thougths here, and same conclusions, just like some people wrote: I tried some phones, but the only possible choice would be the Desire Z (7 Pro w/o card slot is a NO GO!). I ended up buying an new display to replace the cracked one in my TP2 (via ebay, from HK), saving LOTS of money, and still having the device I like and am used to.
Someone wrote about TP2 being cheap(er) now, where do you get them and at which price? They're still above 50% of the price at introduction around here in Germany. If they were cheaper, I'd buy one as spare, too.
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Same thougths here, and same conclusions, just like some people wrote: I tried some phones, but the only possible choice would be the Desire Z (7 Pro w/o card slot is a NO GO!). I ended up buying an new display to replace the cracked one in my TP2 (via ebay, from HK), saving LOTS of money, and still having the device I like and am used to.
Someone wrote about TP2 being cheap(er) now, where do you get them and at which price? They're still above 50% of the price at introduction around here in Germany. If they were cheaper, I'd buy one as spare, too.
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They go for cheap in the Marketplace forum here in XDA every now and then. There's also eBay. I've seen them as low as $120 recently.
That's an incredible price! They're still well over 250€ new on Ebay, almost 400€ in the cheapest onlineshop I found in Germany! WOW.
I will vote for HTC 7 pro, as you've been used to using a keyboard, it's hard to go back to the on-screen one, and BTW HTC 7 Pro is really amazing
Thinking about trading my EVO 4G for an Epic 4G......Why should I? Why shouldn't I? The reason I'm contemplating is because the EVO is about to become old news once the EVO 3D comes out....while the Galaxy S II has a later release date on Sprint..........plus I can run cm7 and basically have a nexus s with a keyboard minus the nfc chip.......what do you guys and gals think???
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Thinking about trading my EVO 4G for an Epic 4G......Why should I? Why shouldn't I? The reason I'm contemplating is because the EVO is about to become old news once the EVO 3D comes out....while the Galaxy S II has a later release date on Sprint..........plus I can run cm7 and basically have a nexus s with a keyboard minus the nfc chip.......what do you guys and gals think???
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I would advise against it. My fiancee has an Epic Fail...and she hates it. It locks up all the time and the SMS goes out of order. The battery is horrid. The worst ones are those that came stock with 2.1 and later upgraded to 2.2. They lock up all the time.
Regards,
Tee Jay
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I would advise against it. My fiancee has an Epic Fail...and she hates it. It locks up all the time and the SMS goes out of order. The battery is horrid. The worst ones are those that came stock with 2.1 and later upgraded to 2.2. They lock up all the time.
Regards,
Tee Jay
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Thx.....anyone else????
The epic to me is old news already I have only seen one in my life time but with the addition of added bulk and a far less dev support I say stick with the evo
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The epic has been old news for a while now sadly. I used it for a week and hated it. I was so happy when I went to the Evo. I'm excited to see how the 3D compares to the original, although I am sure that the 3D will blow it away. You should either wait for the 3D or the GSII
bought the Epic on opening day and quickly regreted it. enough said, if you want new hardware go with the 3D. I will be staying HTC for a while to come..
epic
better screen colors
far better wifi speed..this is significant if you have a connection over 15Mb
better battery life using bonsai
keyboard if you need that (the slider is kinda soft though)
feels like a toy, due to all the plastic
buttons get a tad soft
evo wins
larger screen
better build quality
better dev support--big plus
battery life sucks
data connections seem about the same to me
I have them both sitting here, two separate account
My first recommendation would be to decide if you want a physical keyboard or not.
They add a lot of bulk and take space that can house other/faster components. I would never go back to a physical keyboard. I would rather a smaller/lighter phone with more screen real estate and a slimmer profile.
...however some ppl (my wife for example) miss the physical keyboard greatly which would change things...
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I had a Samsung vibrant, basically an epic without a keyboard. I hated it. Too much lag, bad GPS...good screen and huge internal storage were the only good things. Switched to sprint and the evo and haven't looked back
We're comin from a pure power source.
You'd hate it as much as I did.
The Epic feels very fat compared to the Evo. The slider is constantly trying to open when you don't want it to. Touchwiz is not as nice as Sense (if you're keeping them somewhat stock). The colors on the Epic, especially reds and oranges, seem way overboosted and unnatural on the Epic, and when watching movies on it, I could see a "screen door" type of thing on it.
I only had an Epic because I sent my Evo in for repairs (and opted out of Sprint's insurance). I had it for a week, and was REALLY happy to return it.
Evo to Epic
I wouldn't do it, I had an Epic and 1) nowhere as big as a developer/user base than for the Evo. 2) The LCD is nice but IMO the battery on Epic is less than that of the Evo. 3) the camera on my Epic just straight up died for a no reason after the 2.2 after was applied and would cease to ever work again. (google it, "camera failed to start samsung epic).
Keep the Evo!
I agree with the other posts. The epic adds too much bulk just for a keyboard which has low quality buttons and could better utilize this space for more and better hardware. Plus the Dev support is substantially less. Stick with the evo, it is much better
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jm5503 said:
Thinking about trading my EVO 4G for an Epic 4G......Why should I? Why shouldn't I? The reason I'm contemplating is because the EVO is about to become old news once the EVO 3D comes out....while the Galaxy S II has a later release date on Sprint..........plus I can run cm7 and basically have a nexus s with a keyboard minus the nfc chip.......what do you guys and gals think???
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Don't do it...My wifey has a epic and she gets mad when I show her all the kool roms I have on my phone lol...Now she vowes to never get any phone unless I get it first lol...
had to choose between the two recently, maybe this will help.
http://asmd.wordpress.com/2011/05/14/evolution-vs-revolution/
regards,
asmd.
Thx guys.....
jm5503 said:
Thinking about trading my EVO 4G for an Epic 4G......Why should I? Why shouldn't I? The reason I'm contemplating is because the EVO is about to become old news once the EVO 3D comes out....while the Galaxy S II has a later release date on Sprint..........plus I can run cm7 and basically have a nexus s with a keyboard minus the nfc chip.......what do you guys and gals think???
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lol good luck getting CM7 or any custom rom to run on the Epic.
Lol....I know that's the only thing that is stopping me from doing the trade.....
Yeah and my wife also has the Epic. I get far better battery life than she does. We both leave work at the same time, and at the end of the day her phone is usually dead on the way home and I still have 30-40% left.
EVO For An Epic
I have both phones, and I think I am about to reiterate what a few people have said before. The epic does have a few things going for it, but I believe the user experience and SUPPORT are just way better for the evo. I took my evo back from my ex a week ago and it has been in my pocket way more than my epic. For a phone sprint likes to push as one of their top phones, the epic just doesn't have the support it needs from samsung. Long story short, stick with HTC.
The epic is Not a step forward. They are from the same generation of smartphones.
If you really want a keyboard, then you will want a Evo Shift.
Stick with the Evo... at least til you can get a 3d or whatever else is coming down the pipes. with the new GB update and all the new 3.0 roms out there, the Evo will have a nice new jolt of life.
Hey all....I've had my Touch Pro 2 for a few years now. Thinking about upgrading to this Samsung. Is it really worth it or should I wait a bit longer for the Galaxy III?
It's a beast, in my opinion go ahead and get the Epic 4G Touch. Worst case scenario, you have 14 days to decide if you like it... you can return it in the 14 day window if you don't. You have nothing to lose.
sounds like u might like a evo shift. i stay htc.
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If you are thinking of waiting for the Galaxy III, then when it finally comes out, you'll just be thinking of waiting for the Galaxy IV. But thats just my logic, get it nows, no questions ask. Unless your thinking about the E3d or the photon.
If you can hold out this long with the TP2, then the Epic Touch should hold you over until the Galaxy VII phones are out. You are obviously a person of infinite patience.
As someone who jumped from the TP2 to the Evo 4G, I would say you should definitely do it. Android basically kills WinMo for every single task outside of voice command. And I mean, it slaughters WinMo. And I used to love WinMo.
If you still use your slideout keyboard all the time, your transition to touch KB could be rough, but I'd still give the Epic Touch a go since the screen (and threrefore keyboard) is so big. I rarely used my slideout on the TP2 (mostly because it froze most of the programs in the middle of the portrait to landscape transition), so I had very little learning curve going to full touch.
I wouldn't go to the Shift even though the form factor is similar. Wait for a dual core slider if you absolutely need one. The Shift is already long in the tooth.
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Hey all....I've had my Touch Pro 2 for a few years now. Thinking about upgrading to this Samsung. Is it really worth it or should I wait a bit longer for the Galaxy III?
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I was exactly in your position but I pre-ordered and picked up my E4GT yesterday . The reason I went from SERO to SERO-P is because I am a fanatic of AMOLED displays and Samsung's are the best in the marketplace. The device was supposed to support USB HOST (out of box it does not) so I am disappointed and I can't take pictures while on a phone call, which is also odd. Otherwise, this device is a powerhouse. I remember how I had to wait for the Touch Pro 2 to boot and then wait for it to show the lockscreen before I could unlock the device. Now, the device boots so damn fast that my reflexes feel slower than the phone (I might be exaggerating). The TP2 though feels like Windows XP after 4 years of use and no re-installs and E4GT feels like Windows 7 fresh install. If you have any questions, I will be more than happy to answer.
Thanks for the replies everyone. I really like the look of this phone and felt it is prolly time to FINALLY upgrade. I'm familiar with android using an Asus Transformer. I wanted the EVO 3d but held off for reasons unknown. I think this is the ONE.
forgive me...I'm OLD
Nothing to forgive you for, you're just trying to make the right decision and I can't blame ya for that. It's a great phone
I really think you will love this phone! Ive had an apache » mogul » tp1 » tp2 » epic1 » now epic touch... See a pattern? Ive still got the tp2 but this epic touch, even the epic1 blows the tp2 away... And this is coming from a long time windows mobile user, give this thing a try, go on down to best buy lol
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If you can hold out this long with the TP2, then the Epic Touch should hold you over until the Galaxy VII phones are out. You are obviously a person of infinite patience.
As someone who jumped from the TP2 to the Evo 4G, I would say you should definitely do it. Android basically kills WinMo for every single task outside of voice command. And I mean, it slaughters WinMo. And I used to love WinMo.
If you still use your slideout keyboard all the time, your transition to touch KB could be rough, but I'd still give the Epic Touch a go since the screen (and threrefore keyboard) is so big. I rarely used my slideout on the TP2 (mostly because it froze most of the programs in the middle of the portrait to landscape transition), so I had very little learning curve going to full touch.
I wouldn't go to the Shift even though the form factor is similar. Wait for a dual core slider if you absolutely need one. The Shift is already long in the tooth.
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Check the new windows mango then come again.... the new windows is smoking.... and I love Android now, but let me tell you Skype built in, and such it is going to start heating up very soon with these phone OS systems!
I just can't believe you have been using a TP2 for this long. Don't get me wrong, when I was with Verizon and it first came there I thought I was in heaven but 15 phones later i can't imagine still using it but I admire your loyalty but my god man..I mean..MY GOD MAN!
I was in the same boat last year, upgraded from SERO TP2 to SERO Premium with a Epic 4g. Don't miss my TP2 one bit.
I'm sure the Epic Touch is even better.
Do it!
Yeah man, I had the tp2 as well. it has been sitting in it's cradle charger for over a year. I did use it for a minute, as a temporary phone while waiting for a replacement for a lost epic 4g. When I did, I hated it. I love my epic compared to it. I can't wait till the touch comes in the mail. I will never go back to windows phones. Android is so ahead of the game and getting better by the minute. Until the nexus prime comes out, the epic touch 4g will be the best phone on the market and only the prime will compare for a while. Even with the software holdups that the galaxy s line has had, I wouldn't have traded my current phone for any other one until now.
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I also just upgraded from TP2 to this, and yeah, you won't regret it. The only thing that bugs me is this phone is too thin & light, lol. After carrying around the brick of the TP2, I always knew I had it when carrying it in the same hand as my laptop (which is a lot). I could drop the epic and not even realize it.
thats like comparing the dreamcast to PS3
But without the nostalgia.
Hanson68 said:
But without the nostalgia.
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It's all relative...
phonedog.com/2011/09/16/samsung-nexus-prime-ice-cream-sandwich-and-galaxy-s-iii-details-emerge/
"Reportedly set for a debut at MWC 2012 and a worldwide launch in mid- 2012, the GSIII is said to feature a 4. 65-inch "Super AMOLED III" display with a resolution of 1280x1024 and 352ppi. Other features slated to make it into the Galaxy S III include a 2.0 GHz quad- core processor, 32GB storage, 1.5GB RAM, 10- megapixel camera, 1080p video capture at 60fps, 2,250mAh battery, and ICS beneath "TouchWiz 5." This new version of Samsung's skin is supposedly co-developed by Google and is less "intrusive" than previous versions of TouchWiz."
The GSIII will be a QUANTUM LEAP and leapfrog the current pretenders.
By next summer the Epic 4G Touch will be the Winmo device of its time‚ contemptuously sneered at by those with the then latest & greatest.
Count on it.
22 Months
I'll jump in and take a bashing with the OP. I too, am coming from a Touch Pro 2 as well. It's been a longgg 22 months. It's night and day the difference in technology then. I actually was eligible to upgrade for the Photon, which I did upgrade to; but then promptly returned it as I knew it was only a matter of time before the "Within" was released once it passed through the FCC.
I honestly think that in another 20 months when I can upgrade again, technology will once again dwarf what's out there today. But at least I think the design of the phone won't be that different. Just like the OP, I don't think either of us chose to keep the TP2 this long. It's just our upgrade time. Now if only Letstalk would actually ship it!
It's like comparing a PDA to a new tablet
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It's all relative...
phonedog.com/2011/09/16/samsung-nexus-prime-ice-cream-sandwich-and-galaxy-s-iii-details-emerge/
"Reportedly set for a debut at MWC 2012 and a worldwide launch in mid- 2012, the GSIII is said to feature a 4. 65-inch "Super AMOLED III" display with a resolution of 1280x1024 and 352ppi. Other features slated to make it into the Galaxy S III include a 2.0 GHz quad- core processor, 32GB storage, 1.5GB RAM, 10- megapixel camera, 1080p video capture at 60fps, 2,250mAh battery, and ICS beneath "TouchWiz 5." This new version of Samsung's skin is supposedly co-developed by Google and is less "intrusive" than previous versions of TouchWiz."
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Those specs don't even make sense. A phone with a 4:3 aspect screen? The screen alone would be 24.5mm wider than the body of the Epic Touch. It would be almost as wide as the Evo 4G is tall.
Someone is pulling someone's leg.
You're not going to get a 3 generation leap in less than a year.
I have played w some very well modified smartphones and even the latest dual cores. There really are some nice choices. The epic touch makes me scared to own it...that is a very thin, super light phone. To my point, anyone think this will slow us down? Lots of devs we know and enjoy the work of buying of and moving on to more complicated and faster devices. While I am super happy w my Evo in current form its only a matter of time. Quad cores hitting next year? My old sweet Evo will become a basic phone in another few years at this rate. But that's technology.
Evo 4g still rocks tho!
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I have played w some very well modified smartphones and even the latest dual cores. There really are some nice choices. The epic touch makes me scared to own it...that is a very thin, super light phone. To my point, anyone think this will slow us down? Lots of devs we know and enjoy the work of buying of and moving on to more complicated and faster devices. While I am super happy w my Evo in current form its only a matter of time. Quad cores hitting next year? My old sweet Evo will become a basic phone in another few years at this rate. But that's technology.
Evo 4g still rocks tho!
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+1
I love my EVO no matter how old it gets...ahhh "the memories"
stkiswr said:
I have played w some very well modified smartphones and even the latest dual cores. There really are some nice choices. The epic touch makes me scared to own it...that is a very thin, super light phone. To my point, anyone think this will slow us down? Lots of devs we know and enjoy the work of buying of and moving on to more complicated and faster devices. While I am super happy w my Evo in current form its only a matter of time. Quad cores hitting next year? My old sweet Evo will become a basic phone in another few years at this rate. But that's technology.
Evo 4g still rocks tho!
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seems that some developers are moving on.. savaged zen was my favorite havn't seen anything in a few months. but there are still some working hard to bring us new flavors.... alot of new sense roms coming up, I left sense for an AOSP rom and never looked back. so I have basically settled in on my EVO deck rom and have not been flashing as much as i used to. I still have 8 months left at least with my EVO. and I am still just as happy as I was on day one! .... just some random thoughts....
GO CARDS!!!