hi all,
I'm planning to flash a custom rom for the first time. Since I like HTC Sense, RCMixHD seemed like a good choice? (Is it?)
My phone is already rooted and via rom manager i have clockworkmod. I also made a backup via the recovery.
Now is my question: what is the difference between the two versions of the rom? Is one better than the other? And what exactly do I have to do with the sd-card to make it work correctly?
Thank you in advance,
Floris
A2SD+ - apps and app data moved to the SD card
Data2SD - ALL data is moved to the SD card
Quite simple really! Data2SD is better for storage BUT add strain to your SD card. Plus, you need a fast SD card for it to be worth while (Class 6 upwards)
thank you for such a quick reply!
Now I know I should chose the A2SD+ version since (for the time being) I only have the preinstalled memory card.
Now the only thing I have to do is partition it correctly?
Thanks!
Floris2310 said:
Now the only thing I have to do is partition it correctly?
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Yes.
10charrr
I've watched a video in which they use gparted to partition the sd-card. However they say in the video they think you need to create a fat16 partition for sdcards lower than 4gb and fat32 for larger cards.
Like it said, I use the preinstalled 4GB card. Should I use fat16 or fat32?
Also, in the RCMixHD topic, you can download a lot of different versions of the A2SD+ rom. I believe with different kernels and the first one is 2.0x1. I have downloaded the 2.0x1 version. Is that okay?
thanks!
Floris2310 said:
I've watched a video in which they use gparted to partition the sd-card. However they say in the video they think you need to create a fat16 partition for sdcards lower than 4gb and fat32 for larger cards.
Like it said, I use the preinstalled 4GB card. Should I use fat16 or fat32?
Also, in the RCMixHD topic, you can download a lot of different versions of the A2SD+ rom. I believe with different kernels and the first one is 2.0x1. I have downloaded the 2.0x1 version. Is that okay?
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I've never heard of that and can't think of any reason why you should create a fat16 partition.
I'd keep the fat32 partition, resize it (make it smaller), and create a 500mb ext3-partion at the end. (thats what I did months ago and everything works nicely)
Sry I cant help you with the rom-question, I don't use a hd-rom.
many thanks for the reply. Will try the rom and see Thanks for the help!
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Hi, I just wanted to know which order I should install ROMs and Radios in. I want to install the latest radio because I have heard it can improve reception/increase battery life and I am going to finish installing MoDaCo 3.0 when I know which one to do first.
Also when partitioning an SD card using the AR Recovery loader (sorry if thats not what its called) do I have to change any values or are the default ones suitable. The reason I ask is that I bought a 4gb Class 6 card and want to use that instead.
Many thanks
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Hi, I just wanted to know which order I should install ROMs and Radios in. I want to install the latest radio because I have heard it can improve reception/increase battery life and I am going to finish installing MoDaCo 3.0 when I know which one to do first.
Also when partitioning an SD card using the AR Recovery loader (sorry if thats not what its called) do I have to change any values or are the default ones suitable. The reason I ask is that I bought a 4gb Class 6 card and want to use that instead.
Many thanks
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When I had a Windows Mobile Phone, I flashed the Radio first, and then the ROM. You would maybe have to look if it's described anything about the ROM and which Radio, I don't think it's any problem. Find also the best Radio for your area, I once flashed a US radio and got the worst signals ever.
And if your flashing the MoDaCo 3.0 I would partitioned the SD card after the default settings, but you loose 1gb then. And you loose all data, so therefor do a Flash of the ROM afterwards.
Regards
Fraction
OK well I've flashed the radio already. Now I'm going to put the MoDaCo ROM on my new SD card. Once I've done that I will Flash the ROM onto the phone.
Once this is done I will boot into recovery and partition the SD card. This I assume will wipe the SD card and if I follow the defaults (32MB, 512MB, Rest in Fat32) then I should have an OK setup?
I assume the values I have listed are the best values for partitioning but I don't know.
Also, what do you mean about losing 1gb?
Thanks
byakkotai said:
OK well I've flashed the radio already. Now I'm going to put the MoDaCo ROM on my new SD card. Once I've done that I will Flash the ROM onto the phone.
Once this is done I will boot into recovery and partition the SD card. This I assume will wipe the SD card and if I follow the defaults (32MB, 512MB, Rest in Fat32) then I should have an OK setup?
I assume the values I have listed are the best values for partitioning but I don't know.
Also, what do you mean about losing 1gb?
Thanks
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Sorry I ment 500mb ish, From the total size of the sdcard, since 544mb goes to ext and 1,4gb is left for FAT32.
Fraction
Hi,
I would like to know how to configure it.
I have in my SD:
1024M for swap
1500M for ext2
5000M for Fat32
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Swap? On a Desire? Don't think you need that, there's plenty of RAM.
So you need to partition your SD card, 512 mB ext3 should be plenty, the rest can be FAT32.
FAT partition must come first.
ok, thank you.
And now how can I enable the A2SD apps ?
raffarein said:
ok, thank you.
And now how can I enable the A2SD apps ?
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Once you have Apps2SD installed and your SD card partitoned correctly, all there is to do is just install your apps and they will be installed to your ext2 partition on your SD card. Use the Quick System Info app from the Marketplace, or see my thread to check if it is working correctly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677073
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Hi,
I would like to know how to configure it.
I have in my SD:
1024M for swap
1500M for ext2
5000M for Fat32
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Way too much swap!! For Desire best is 0 for swap, 512mb for Ext2 and rest for Fat32
is it possible to partition the SD card "outside" the phone?
I got a new SD card I want to use, and the old one is running as ext partition, and the phone spasses out if i swap the 2 cards? so how can I make the external partition so I can install on the new one?
Yes, you could try partitioning by accessing Recovery Mode via your PC while having your phone connected with the USB cable. Use the relevant push files (available for download in my sig from the Nimbu guide) to access Recovery Mode, then you will see an option to partition your SD card. You can set the swap, ext2, and FAT32 space of your SD card and convert it from ext2 to ext3.
As advised above, set your swap to 0 MB, ext2 between 512 MB - 1024 MB (max), and rest of space allocated to the FAT32 partition.
Remember to backup your SD card contents beforehand otherwise you will lose everything through partitioning.
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I'm on r3.1 rom with A2SD+, I'm really pleased with it but I plan to switch to some Froyo rom once htc releases it (with A2SD+ if possible).
What is the proper way to prepare sd card for change of rom ( now I have sd card with standard settings: swap 0 ext2 512 mb fat32 rest).
Do I need to format it again?
The thing that I need to switch between goldcard and my everyday card during the process makes it difficult enough
djoni1980 said:
The thing that I need to switch between goldcard and my everyday card during the process makes it difficult enough
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On the same topic: Is it possible to partition your SD card first and then make it a goldcard so we don't have to switch between cards during rooting and flashing? Thanks..
djoni1980 said:
I'm on r3.1 rom with A2SD+, I'm really pleased with it but I plan to switch to some Froyo rom once htc releases it (with A2SD+ if possible).
What is the proper way to prepare sd card for change of rom ( now I have sd card with standard settings: swap 0 ext2 512 mb fat32 rest).
Do I need to format it again?
The thing that I need to switch between goldcard and my everyday card during the process makes it difficult enough
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With DJ Droid's v1.0 R1 BETA rom (Sense with Froyo), it allows you to partition your SD card the exact same way you had done with the r3.1 rom. I have mine setup with a 0MB swap, ext2 size of 512 MB, and rest to FAT32 partition. To install this rom, it is advised to format your SD card again to get rid of any niggling bugs.
AFAIK, all other Froyo roms (ones without Sense) require you to prepare the SD card differently and not have your SD card partitioned, you need to push via ADB to install your apps to the SD card.
manisa236 said:
On the same topic: Is it possible to partition your SD card first and then make it a goldcard so we don't have to switch between cards during rooting and flashing? Thanks..
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This will not be possible as you need to use the Gold Card to unlock your phone's CID if your phone is network branded. After that, you can root and then flash a rom, and then partition your sd card afterwards.
Thanks for the answers massdroid, you are the most helpful member around
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Thanks for the answers massdroid, you are the most helpful member around
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Thank you buddy. I appreciate your kind words
what are the benifets of app2sd???
The title says it all, I was wondering what are the benefits of storing and running your apps from the sd card other then the obviously being able to install more apps then can be stored on the phones internal memory?
Secondly what is the purpose of zipalign? At a very simplistic level I guess it has something to do with optimizing the apk though I am not really sure what this means.
Even with my Sprint CDMA Hero overclocked to 652 (min) & 710 (max) I still find the keyboard to be a bit laggy, will enabling the above help with this at all?
Yep, by installing apps and their associated cache to your SD, it saves you from having to install them directly to internal memory, which would affect the performance of your phone with the more apps you install. With A2SD installed, you basically save storage space and allows your device to run faster.
Also, consider installing a cache cleaner app to free up more space.
Zipalign makes interacting with apps more efficient after they are optimised making them run faster with the Android OS.
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where do performance improvements come from?
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Yep, by installing apps and their associated cache to your SD, it saves you from having to install them directly to internal memory, which would affect the performance of your phone with the more apps you install. With A2SD installed, you basically save storage space and allows your device to run faster.
Also, consider installing a cache cleaner app to free up more space.
Zipalign makes interacting with apps more efficient after they are optimised making them run faster with the Android OS.
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I have seen the benchmark tests showing the speed improvements but I don't really see how changing the location of where the apps are installed to would necessarily improve the performance of their execution, I mean the phone's internal storage is separate from the phone's internal ram. Are there fragmentation issues or something when it comes to running the apps from the smaller internal storage vs the larger external storage of the sd card?
I think this question was asked previously but I didn't see an answer for it; when app2sd is set up, when you start installing new apps do they automatically get zipaligned and then installed to the sd card or do you have to do it manually?
Hmm.... i think you have a point there and i agree with what you are saying. With A2SD, i don't think it improves performance since it's ROM space, not RAM, that these apps are occupying. The main advantage of A2SD is having more dedicated space for storage of apps.
Since the 1.6 SDK was released, i think the ADT does this automatically on APK export. Therefore any app which has been updated since ~September (and was developed using the ADT Eclipse plugin) will be zipalign'd.
You can also do this manually, see this link:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/09/zipalign-easy-optimization.html
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Hi,
Yesterday, I installed new CM7 rom on my htc desire. everything works fine, but widgets installed or moved sd card could not be used because they are not appearing on widgets.
is it bug?
thanks...
No, is what is supposed to happen. If you need the space use A2SD (the one with the ext partition).
ok,
Thank you...
Sory,
one question, is it possible to make A2SD (Partition) with Rom Manager?
Yes, but keep in mind that the sd card will be wiped during the process so copy important stuff to your pc.
ok, thank you again...
Hi,
I partitioned sd-card as
11... gb fat32
4... gb ext3
32 mb linux swap
but my phone does not see the ext3, should I reflash the rom or did something wrong?
Keep your ext partition under 2gb then try again. Also make sure you read up on A2SD because a lot of people think it doesn't work when it does work.
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My girlfriend got the HTC Wildfire S for MetroPCS a couple of weeks ago. It is a nice phone except for one little problem: The internal memory is crap. She has exactly 5 apps installed, all are moved to SD, and she has 7.14 MB or internal memory free. It is running the stock 2.3 Rom rooted. I need some help figuring out what to do. Before you guys make suggestions let me list what I have already done:
1. S-OFF and rooted, removed all bloatware, which moved it from 3.21 MB to 8 MB which seems like BS because a few of those apps were about 6 MB in size.
2. Moved apps to SD card partially in the applications menu in settings.
3. Cleaned caches
4. Uninstalled almost every application.
This is very frustrating because she cant update apps, she cant download apps, and it is frustrating because I have the old Huawei Ascend on CM7 and I have more apps and am faster than her phone, its ridiculous, I also wonder why after removing over 60MB or crap and bloatware it freed up about 7MB. Makes no sense. I don't want to do DT's app2sd script yet because she doesn't have a way to back up her stuff before the partition of the SD card. If anyone can explain another way or something I can do to fix this please..... It would be greatly appreciated.
Use Partition Wizard Home (Free) to resize your FAT32 partition and create your Ext(whatever your kernel supports) partition on a windows machine.
No need to back up. Doesn't destroy partitions.
My preference is Link2SD free from the market.
You can mass move your apps, dalvik cache and library files to the Ext(Probably Ext2 with stock rom kernel) from the SD card and internal to your Ext partition very easy.
Also you can set it up to auto do this when new apps are installed and choose which apps you want to keep fully internal for faster booting, startup, etc.
d33ps1x said:
Use Partition Wizard Home (Free) to resize your FAT32 partition and create your Ext(whatever your kernel supports) partition on a windows machine.
No need to back up. Doesn't destroy partitions.
My preference is Link2SD free from the market.
You can mass move your apps, dalvik cache and library files to the Ext(Probably Ext2 with stock rom kernel) from the SD card and internal to your Ext partition very easy.
Also you can set it up to auto do this when new apps are installed and choose which apps you want to keep fully internal for faster booting, startup, etc.
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I appreciate the fast reply. but here is my issue, she doesnt have a computer... is there anything else we can try?
AtmosFEAR4701 said:
I appreciate the fast reply. but here is my issue, she doesnt have a computer... is there anything else we can try?
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Someone else's computer...
Helped...3
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I did try that and. now the phone can't see the SD card. what shoud I do use a SD card reader. and wipe it?
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I did try that and. now the phone can't see the SD card. what shoud I do use a SD card reader. and wipe it?
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Is this the same question from two different people or one person logged on as two different people?
If your card is corrupt and can't be read try a program like Recuva on the PC (free) to get your files from it.
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Someone else's computer...
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Okay, I will get her phone on Thursday and try app2sd.
d33ps1x said:
Is this the same question from two different people or one person logged on as two different people?
If your card is corrupt and can't be read try a program like Recuva on the PC (free) to get your files from it.
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sorry different person. Got a new card read sd card checks out after partion it will just not read the card can all kind of test on the card formated changed partion back to fad 32 it will just not read the card mounts in windows just fine.
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sorry different person. Got a new card read sd card checks out after partion it will just not read the card can all kind of test on the card formated changed partion back to fad 32 it will just not read the card mounts in windows just fine.
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The card shows up and reads in windows?
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The card shows up and reads in windows?
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yes and cant be read after any changes with mini tool partion wizard
if I make partions with windows storage manager it works fine. The only problem with that is windows see more that one partion on what it considers removal meda but cant create edit or change it. so gess im searching for a new partion tool or get some bootabe image of a linix distro and try it from there
Active partition, Fat32 and Primary partition?
raven.warsong said:
sorry different person. Got a new card read sd card checks out after partion it will just not read the card can all kind of test on the card formated changed partion back to fad 32 it will just not read the card mounts in windows just fine.
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Format it in windows using the partition software I mentioned and make sure it is:
1/ Fat32
2/ A Primary not a Logical partition
3/ Make it the Active partition
thanks I have been working on it and got it to see the sd card
what about the 2 partion should it be ext2 ext 3 or fad 32 I guss it dose not matter I have tried all 3 but link2sd will not see the 2 partion
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the phone will see the sd card I have tryed fad 32,ext2 ,ext 3 and ext4 that app will see none of them as the second partion are you shure I dont need root or some thing? sorry for all the nob questions
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thanks I have been working on it and got it to see the sd card
what about the 2 partion should it be ext2 ext 3 or fad 32 I guss it dose not matter I have tried all 3 but link2sd will not see the 2 partion
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Choose EXT3
Sorry for the double post but you have to be rooted from what I understand. There is also a script or application that you have to use to move the apps and you MUST be rooted.
thanks much I kind if figured that now sorry for wasting your time guess I should I read more or some thing
It's no problem good luck!
I have had good luck with this
http://androidforums.com/micromax-a70/422359-how-force-install-apps-sd-card-without-root-a70.html
sd card does not work
AtmosFEAR4701 said:
The card shows up and reads in windows?
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what should i do if d sd card reads in windows and does not respond in the phone?? is there any way to recover it?? bcos i cant take d risk of ruining the memory card as it is my brother's office phone n he will kill me if something goes wrong wit it
Hi there!
I've got a problem with my HTC Desire sd card partition.
Every rom works fine, sd card also but it starts to force closing, freezing and randomly rebooting when I push apps to sd card using any of the A2SD scripts (except stock one). I mean, when I use roms which just need SD-EXT (such as MIUI or SpazeDog ICS) nothing seems to work uncorrectly but when I move apps all problems start. I tried many roms (MIUI, InsertCoin Sense, SpazeDog) and diffrent moving scripts (A2SD+ ; D2EXT ; and others which names i forgot) and it always caused reboots, FCs and frezzes when I pushed my apps. Can you guys tell me how to fix this problem, or is it just my SD card broken? I always partitioned card by 4EXT recovery, tried EXT3 and EXT4 file system, never made partition bigger than 1GB. My SD card is a Sandisk 16GB class 4.
Sorry for my bad english, Szotaa
An important thing is the method younused to partition your sd (a tool you used).
Also, it wouldn't be bad to buy faster sd card (class 6 or 10).
So, the solution for the problem would be using another partitioning tool? Is gpared a good choice?
Now I saw you used 4ext recovery, and it's the best tool. Gparted is the second best, but I think u need a new sd.
One more question, is your phone s-off? Some scripts need it to work properly.
Yes, my phone is s-off. So its a sd card issue. At the end could u tell me is supernova rom going to work properly, even on my sd card? Because i heard it is the stabliest d2ext ever made.
szotaa said:
Yes, my phone is s-off. So its a sd card issue. At the end could u tell me is supernova rom going to work properly, even on my sd card? Because i heard it is the stabliest d2ext ever made.
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Supernova recommend a certain brand of sd card to work with the rom. I cant remember it off the bat but it's stated on Droidzone's website/forum.
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Supernova recommend a certain brand of sd card to work with the rom. I cant remember it off the bat but it's stated on Droidzone's website/forum.
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Based on user feedback, we recommend a Transcend Class 6 for D2SD roms.