please help. how to unroot with no display? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

ok, so i had an accident at work today and i was walking around someones attic and i fell through the ceiling. of course the first thing i noticed was my precious htc evo on the cement with a cracked lcd inside. now i have insurance but it is also rooted and has rooted program icons, superuser icon, s-off, all of which the tech can see once he puts the new screen on. is there a way to wipe it without the use of the lcd that would restore it back to factory and uroot it at the same time?

sand1303 said:
ok, so i had an accident at work today and i was walking around someones attic and i fell through the ceiling. of course the first thing i noticed was my precious htc evo on the cement with a cracked lcd inside. now i have insurance but it is also rooted and has rooted program icons, superuser icon, s-off, all of which the tech can see once he puts the new screen on. is there a way to wipe it without the use of the lcd that would restore it back to factory and uroot it at the same time?
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Well are you sure it still turns on?

If its cracked... how are they going to tell if it's rooted? Especially if the screen doesn't turn on...

can't you damage it more so it won't boot?

Man one of the guys I used to work with fell through a customers ceiling right in front of me a few years ago. It was one of the funniest things I have ever witnessed.

Once he replaces the screen it won't really matter if your rooted or not. I could see the issue before the phone was fixed. But after its kind of a moot point.

It doesn't matter if it is rooted. Asurion sends you a good phone, and you send them back the broken one...done.

You can use adb through the recovery to flash unrevoked forever s-on and then fastboot for the ruu. An 'adb reboot recovery' will get you to the recovery and from there 'adb shell reboot bootloader' will get you to fastboot. No need to even touch the phone.

_MetalHead_ said:
Man one of the guys I used to work with fell through a customers ceiling right in front of me a few years ago. It was one of the funniest things I have ever witnessed.
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Not so funny for the guy or the company that pays to get it fixed

sand1303 said:
ok, so i had an accident at work today and i was walking around someones attic and i fell through the ceiling. of course the first thing i noticed was my precious htc evo on the cement with a cracked lcd inside. now i have insurance but it is also rooted and has rooted program icons, superuser icon, s-off, all of which the tech can see once he puts the new screen on. is there a way to wipe it without the use of the lcd that would restore it back to factory and uroot it at the same time?
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Do you have TEP, ESRP, OR ERP for insurance? Bottom line is with tep for 7 or ESRP for 4 dollars a month you can have the screen replaced at a service center at no additional cost. Most techs prolly won't care that you are rooted. Even if they tell you that you have to go through asurion then it still don't mater if you ate rooted. Fixing cracked evo displays is done all the time age most service centers. As long as none off the shields are dented inside the phone you should be ok.
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aimbdd said:
Not so funny for the guy or the company that pays to get it fixed
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Well its a small price to pay for such a great memory
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silverjack said:
Do you have TEP, ESRP, OR ERP for insurance? Bottom line is with tep for 7 or ESRP for 4 dollars a month you can have the screen replaced at a service center at no additional cost. Most techs prolly won't care that you are rooted. Even if they tell you that you have to go through asurion then it still don't mater if you ate rooted. Fixing cracked evo displays is done all the time age most service centers. As long as none off the shields are dented inside the phone you should be ok.
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yes, i have TEP and pay 7$ a month for it. i know i can get it fixed i am just wandering if after the repair they can say anything about it being rooted and charge me some price because i voided some agreement with the root

sand1303 said:
yes, i have TEP and pay 7$ a month for it. i know i can get it fixed i am just wandering if after the repair they can say anything about it being rooted and charge me some price because i voided some agreement with the root
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What I would do is call first, and without giving your name ask if they will give you crap if you brought your rooted phone in to be fixed. Chances are they won't give a crap considering that rooting does not shatter a glass screen. Just be cool when you go in and don't try to blame the tech for stealing your Sense and you will be fine.

sand1303 said:
yes, i have TEP and pay 7$ a month for it. i know i can get it fixed i am just wandering if after the repair they can say anything about it being rooted and charge me some price because i voided some agreement with the root
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To the best of my knowledge the only thing they can do is flag the device dbr "damage beyond repair" which questionable. Best thing to do is find a 3rd party service center and call them ahead to see if they have the screen before you go in. There are 2 different manufactures of the screens, ask if they have both. 3rd party service and repair centers are less likely to care about rooting as they get paid by Sprint to fix phones.
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Well, I never did anything to it last night. Today I went and took it in to a repair center. Told them what happened and they took it and told Mr to come back in an hour. It was waiting on me when I got back. Brand new display free of charge.
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sand1303 said:
Well, I never did anything to it last night. Today I went and took it in to a repair center. Told them what happened and they took it and told Mr to come back in an hour. It was waiting on me when I got back. Brand new display free of charge.
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See, quite painless. Good to hear. I wish Sprint wasn't the only major carrier to have local repair centers.
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_MetalHead_ said:
What I would do is call first, and without giving your name ask if they will give you crap if you brought your rooted phone in to be fixed. Chances are they won't give a crap considering that rooting does not shatter a glass screen. Just be cool when you go in and don't try to blame the tech for stealing your Sense and you will be fine.
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Damn you! I was coming to this thread specifically for that reference.

xHausx said:
You can use adb through the recovery to flash unrevoked forever s-on and then fastboot for the ruu. An 'adb reboot recovery' will get you to the recovery and from there 'adb shell reboot bootloader' will get you to fastboot. No need to even touch the phone.
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Is there detailed instructions on this method or maybe even a video? I have downloaded everything I need, sdk, drivers, unrevoked s-on zip, and the rru. Just need a little explanation on how to do this with adb. anyone willing to help me out, please pm me. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Way to control unrooted Evo with no touchscreen?
I have a similar problem to sand1303. First, let me describe the situation.
I have an unrooted Evo 4G. The digitizer is damaged and the ribbon is torn to the LCD. Therefore, I cannot change anything on the phone. And it cannot be read as a storage device when connected to my laptop via USB (when I last had it plugged in, I guess it was set for "charge only"). I bought a new phone and would like to retrieve my contacts (most of which were thankfully recovered through the Google sync, but not ALL). I just installed the adt screencast bundle along with the java development tool. The program runs fine, but I cannot access the phone's data. I get a permission denied message when I try to get into the opening up the interface, as shown below.
D:\Downloads\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64\sdk\platform-tools>adb shell
$ su
su: permission denied
$chmod 777/data/dalvik-cache
Usage: chmod <MODE> <FILE>
$cd /data/dalvik-cache
cd /data/dalvik-cache
$ chmod etc etc...
Is there a way to get the last of files off my phone? I would like to browse the directories on my phone...
Thank you.
Dan

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[Q] sprint store with a rooted evo

so I have the screen separation appearing on the bottom right corner of my screen. I am rooted with CM6 and wanted to know should I unroot and go back to stock before taking my phone to Sprint Service center? If so, where can I found the stock latest 2.2 to flash my phone back to stock?
Thanks for all advice and helps in advance!
I got the screen replaced on my Evo last week due to dust under the upper left corner. I took it in just like I use it...running Fresh Rom and the Riptide theme. They won't say anything about being rooted unless you are bringing the phone in for a problem that may be related to rooting. Screen seperation isn't that type of problem. They didn't even mention it.
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I got the screen replaced on my Evo last week due to dust under the upper left corner. I took it in just like I use it...running Fresh Rom and the Riptide theme. They won't say anything about being rooted unless you are bringing the phone in for a problem that may be related to rooting. Screen seperation isn't that type of problem. They didn't even mention it.
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so what did the do to fix the problem? they fix the screen or replace the phone?
jcarlm said:
so what did the do to fix the problem? they fix the screen or replace the phone?
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I said in my post "I got the screen replaced on my Evo last week". They removed the screen (outer glass, bezel, digitizer and LCD are all one assembly) and put a new one on. Took about an hour.
chazglenn3 said:
I said in my post "I got the screen replaced on my Evo last week". They removed the screen (outer glass, bezel, digitizer and LCD are all one assembly) and put a new one on. Took about an hour.
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Did they charge you?
If there is no physical damage (scratches, dents, water damage) it should be replaced for free.
While that guy was lucky, I would DEFINITELY unroot before taking it in. Rooting voids your entire warranty, and if they see it, even if your problem is hardware related and not software related, they can void the warranty and you will never get it fixed. Better safe than sorry.
o.k..
I need to find a rooted htc stock room that I can just flash..
I have been searching and can't find the one I need.
Links any one?
jcarlm said:
o.k..
I need to find a rooted htc stock room that I can just flash..
I have been searching and can't find the one I need.
Links any one?
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you need to unroot, not just flash a stock ROM... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800582 but first check if your s-on/off (read the link to find out more)
Forgot I had a nandroid backup saved on my computer of my phone while it still had HTC rom.
Turned out my glass on the front panel was version 1 which means my complete phone has to be replaced.
So now I will have Android 2.2 with HTC rom and will have to learn to root that. It was so easy to root when I had 2.1 but I'm sure I will be able to handle it.
New Evo on Thursday!
Hope the newer ones are better!
Any opinions on the new Evos or any thing I should know about the newer ones?
I called my local Sprint repair center and asked what their policy was on rooted phones. Like the OP said they didn't care as long as you aren't having software issues. If you are thinking about taking your phone in call the store and ask it won't hurt a bit. Now if you think they are going to replace your device save your self a trip and unroot first because the phone will need to be returned to stock before they will exchange it. The employees were actually impressed with what had been done with the phone and were very cool about it. Think about it they work on phones hopefully they like what they do, they think its cool too.
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Forgot I had a nandroid backup saved on my computer of my phone while it still had HTC rom.
Turned out my glass on the front panel was version 1 which means my complete phone has to be replaced.
So now I will have Android 2.2 with HTC rom and will have to learn to root that. It was so easy to root when I had 2.1 but I'm sure I will be able to handle it.
New Evo on Thursday!
Hope the newer ones are better!
Any opinions on the new Evos or any thing I should know about the newer ones?
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I rooted a new one yesterday and used unrevoked without issue. It has actually gotten easier then when i had to use adb push and all that.
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So, since I am getting a new phone out of this and my phone is still rooted, should I go back to completely stock?
All I did was flash back to my very first back up with HTC stock rom.
Will just having my Evo flashed to that first backup be enough when they ship off my phone after they hand me over my new one or should I fully restock my phone?
Does the phone go back to Sprint or HTC?
fully unroot and return the phone to stock it is easy to do its like 2 steps and takes only a few minutes.
people act like it is an hour long in depth process to root and unroot your phones its 5-10 minutes to do it and better not to take chances. All it takes is for one guy having a bad day to be a **** and make a note voiding warranty etc. Also in your case now is it really worth risking having to go home and unroot it then run back out to do the swap if they need you?
just unroot (not just flash stock htc actually unroot)
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zone23 - You're lucky... I went in today to get my button crack fixed, made an appointment, took some time off work, and the second I got in there the guy berated me for having a non-official extended battery and said they wouldn't do any work on it because its rooted - even though my problem had NOTHING to do with software.
unrooting right now and then going to a manager. generally sweet customer service... not today.
viper1619 said:
zone23 - You're lucky... I went in today to get my button crack fixed, made an appointment, took some time off work, and the second I got in there the guy berated me for having a non-official extended battery and said they wouldn't do any work on it because its rooted - even though my problem had NOTHING to do with software.
unrooting right now and then going to a manager. generally sweet customer service... not today.
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Ouch hope they didn't flag your account...if so your SOL unless you know someone or find a hella cool manager.
Always unroot it only takes a matter of minutes (or should) and can save you a lot of hassle.
viper1619 said:
zone23 - You're lucky... I went in today to get my button crack fixed, made an appointment, took some time off work, and the second I got in there the guy berated me for having a non-official extended battery and said they wouldn't do any work on it because its rooted - even though my problem had NOTHING to do with software.
unrooting right now and then going to a manager. generally sweet customer service... not today.
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I've given back a few rooted phones for non-root related issues (speaker bad, kickstand won't stay in, LEDs don't work - 5 evos total so far) with no issues. Did the same with a lot of flashed TP's (12) and TP2's (2).
They can void your warranty for rooting it, sure, but they can't over the battery. Just tell him you don't know anything about it and you bought it that way on craigslist. That doesn't protect your warranty, but unless the guy has just decided to be a total d-bag they'll probably replace it anyway.
Also, the employees behind the counter are just people too. Being nice and not acting like you have a sense of self-entitlement to anything you want goes a long way. Believe me, I know first-hand. Customers' attitude factors in fairly heavily in how they get charged at the computer shop I work at because the techs set the prices on jobs.
Just be nice, don't be an a-hole yourself. If they say they won't fix it - fine. Say thanks anyway, be polite, and leave with it. Go home, unroot it, pick a different sprint store, and go complain about your original problem again. Five bucks says they'll fix it no questions asked.
It sounds like some of you need to read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. The very notion of "my entire warranty is voided because I'm rooted" is completely illegal and anyone that tries to tell you otherwise could find themselves in some legal hot water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act
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It sounds like some of you need to read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. The very notion of "my entire warranty is voided because I'm rooted" is completely illegal and anyone that tries to tell you otherwise could find themselves in some legal hot water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act
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Not true, if you modify or alter a consumer product to a point that it performs significantly different than the manufacturer intended, the manufacturer is under no obligation to warranty it any longer.
I'm pretty sure this topic has been addressed many times and there is no set answer? I vaguely remember reading a legal article on it as well. It would be nice if there was an official statement made by both carriers and phone manufactures.
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sitlet said:
If there is no physical damage (scratches, dents, water damage) it should be replaced for free.
While that guy was lucky, I would DEFINITELY unroot before taking it in. Rooting voids your entire warranty, and if they see it, even if your problem is hardware related and not software related, they can void the warranty and you will never get it fixed. Better safe than sorry.
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That is not entirely true. They can not void your warrenty for issues unrelated to rooting. If you brick your rom, sure that is legit for them to do that...but if my LCD fails, and is unrelated to the rooting, then no they can not. If they try to do that, you make sure you fight it.
I had a repair center in my town refuse to fix my speaker on my mogul with low volume problem, because I had a scratch on my battery door cover. He said my warrenty was void to to "Physical damage."
After a phone call to Sprint, and apparently other complaints that service center lost thier contract with Sprint. I ended up with a touch pro 2.... (Although I just wanted my mogul fixed , I was never happy with the TP2, and bought an EVO )

[Q] Fixing scratched screen instore - rooted

So, I'm going go to Sprint to pay the 35 dollars to get my screen fixed. Would it be a big deal if they see that the phone has Cyanogen on it? Bought the phone from Radio Shack so it's not like they would tell them about it. xP
It probably depends on the store, but I took mine in the other day for a screwed up screen, and they fixed it. I know they rebooted it, because it was off when I gave it to them and on when I picked it up. So I know they saw the CyanogenMod boot screen. I'm sure other things may have tipped them off, too, but they didn't give me any trouble about it and let me sign up for their protection plan anyway.
Give it a shot. It's not like they're going to hold your phone ransom.
P.S. I did take my SD card out before I gave it to them.
As always, I recommend you unroot. We all know that rooting doesnt cause hardware malfunctions, or has nothing to do with your scratched screen. But it does void the warranty, and there is always the possibility they will catch it. I wouldnt take the chance.
Give it a shot. It's not like they're going to hold your phone ransom.
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Well if they do care, and they do catch it, they will permanently void your warranty, so every sprint store will see it and you will never get your phone fixed.
Maybe hold on to your battery while they fix it?
Or just take the steps to do a nandroid backup, then unroot it.
I never bother unrooting before having my phone serviced, I just do a nandroid backup and then install the RUU ROM version. Unless they boot into recovery, they can't tell and it's so much easier to restore when I get it back.
The guys at my sprint store are always fascinated with my phones when I bring them in. I had my Evo rooted before I even activated it, put CM 6.1 on it, tried to activate it but it wouldn't so I took it to the sprint store and they couldent figure it out. Brought it back home, flashed stock RUU and activated just fine, took it back and let the guys play around with CM 6.1 and they were asking how to root theirs.
I guess it just depends on the store
thetakara said:
So, I'm going go to Sprint to pay the 35 dollars to get my screen fixed. Would it be a big deal if they see that the phone has Cyanogen on it? Bought the phone from Radio Shack so it's not like they would tell them about it. xP
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Don't worry, you're rooted EVO will be just fine.. Now, if it were an iPhone and you were going to the * I have Mr job's hot dog up my azz* 'Genius Bar' .. that'd be a different story..
I Called and asked if they cared that my phone was rooted and they didn't. Doesn't sound like your going in under a warranty item your paying them to fix it. They generally only care about rooted if your having software issues. Like I said call the store DON'T give them your name talk to the tech and ask him what their policy is on rooted phones. it would seem to me your paying them to fix the screen it shouldn't matter if its rooted or not. Call them and ask it wont hurt.
If you have TEP on your phone does it still cost $35 to have your screen replaced. I have a tiny scratch on mine and I'm not sure it's worth $35 but if its free I might do it.
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durandetto said:
If you have TEP on your phone does it still cost $35 to have your screen replaced. I have a tiny scratch on mine and I'm not sure it's worth $35 but if its free I might do it.
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Nope with TEP it is free. Had my cracked camera lens fixed yesterday and they new it was rooted. Free with TEP. To be totally safe just nandroid and unroot.
Sorry for the N00B question but how would I nandroid and unroot?
Any cosmetic damage will not be covered under TEP for free you will have to pay the $35 to get the screen fixed. so if the screen just has a scratch they wont replace it for free they will make you pay the $35 fee
If you are going in for a scratched screen, I doubt they would care. Just nandroid backup and flash the stock RUU. However, for software issues, the stores and refurb people are soon to be asked to check in recovery for S-OFF and void your warranty.
Half those guys in the store probably have a rooted phone themselves.
The Sprint store I go to, 2 of the guys have rooted evos and another has a rooted samsung galaxy s. Maybe go in there beforehand and talk to some of them. They dont even care about rooting necessarily; its not like it screws the sales guys or anything.
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Any cosmetic damage will not be covered under TEP for free you will have to pay the $35 to get the screen fixed. so if the screen just has a scratch they wont replace it for free they will make you pay the $35 fee
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No, I'm told that if the screen isn't broken, they won't fix the screen for just scratches.
What the heck is TEP?
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Total Equipment Protection, aka the insurance.
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Haha thats actually not true at all. Apple replaced my iPod touch headphones 4 times while I had that device. To get them replaced they needed to see my iPod to check some setting on it. Every time I brought it in it was jailbroken, themed, and had hidden icons so I always had to help them find the settings app. Nobody ever called me out on it being jailbroken and I was never denied service or warranty coverage because of it.
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They were probably embarassed you had to help them find it.
My store, one rooted Evo, and one rooted Intercept. Here we don't care about it too much.... unless the customer is a straight up ass.
Store I use to work at, rooted Evo, rooted Epic, rooted Hero, but they don't do S&R there.

[Q] Sprint store repair

I'm going today to the Sprint store for a repair on my Evo. Do I need to unroot my phone? I'm paying for the repair since I don't have a warranty. What do you think? or should i just flash the stock Rom?
just flash a stock look, if the repair is software related then un-root
i would fro sure un-root it, most techs look and check if it has been rooted, and some will not work on it if it has been rooted. if it's softwear you will be waisting your $35 bucks if you take it in rooted
Yep. Unroot is always needed. Also take out your SD card. Some will check that for signs of rooting. Such as busybox.
Yeah, definitely wise to unroot it. Very easy and quick process to do it again once it's repaired anyway.
I'm sure glad there's a store near me where the tech has his phone rooted and also one roots other people's phones sometimes, so he's clearly cool with it!
I've had my phone repaired so many times with root. Replaced screen (2x), replaced speaker (2x), replaced camera lens (whole rear replacement) . But I always told em if they have to replace the whole damn thing or motherboard don't do it.
My splashscreen is black so as soon as they power on, they know it's root.
They just say 'at least make it look stock'. Which I always have.
No, I would not un-root for repair
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I've had my phone repaired so many times with root. Replaced screen (2x), replaced speaker (2x), replaced camera lens (whole rear replacement) . But I always told em if they have to replace the whole damn thing or motherboard don't do it.
My splashscreen is black so as soon as they power on, they know it's root.
They just say 'at least make it look stock'. Which I always have.
No, I would not un-root for repair
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I have never had a problem bring my phones in rooted either. I do flash a stock image though, like you said "at least make it look stock". I think it depends on the techs in the store. Most are cool and are rooted themselves!
Offical policy from Sprint, as of last week, is to work on rooted phones now. Does not matter if a device is rooted or not, continue work as you normally would and exchange if necessary.
It didn't matter beforehand. If the problem you're having is unrelated to root, such as hardware failure, then being rooted is a moot point.
Sprint techs weren't supposed to work on rooted device before. Lots did anyway. Last week they finally posted the offical methods and procedure document stating work on rooted devices is acceptable and continue as normal.
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I've had my phone repaired so many times with root. Replaced screen (2x), replaced speaker (2x), replaced camera lens (whole rear replacement) . But I always told em if they have to replace the whole damn thing or motherboard don't do it.
My splashscreen is black so as soon as they power on, they know it's root.
They just say 'at least make it look stock'. Which I always have.
No, I would not un-root for repair
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Did you get your screen replaced under regular warranty? I'd like to get mine replaced too since there are some uneven light spots, but I don't have the TEP plan.
dcfella said:
Did you get your screen replaced under regular warranty? I'd like to get mine replaced too since there are some uneven light spots, but I don't have the TEP plan.
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Damn man, sorry so long. I never checked this thread back after posting.
I'm not sure, honestly. I have TEP, but don't know if it was necessary. In any case, it cost me nothing. First time they replaced it, they F'd it up, and the top 1/2' of the screen was non-responsive. when I broughtn it back in, I had them replace a bunch of the other hardware, as well. All free.
Where is this info about 'official policy', cuz that is awesome, that makes me love Sprint even more if true.
i would also like to see something official saying they work on rooted phones now. my evo overheats and restarts like crazy and i want to take it in but dont wanna have to re-root.
If it can at all be software related you def need to unroot. If your ROM/Kernel has even a remote chance of being the cause, I guarantee they will blame that.
It only takes like 10 min to unroot and less to root w/ unrevoked, esp if you already have the drivers.
I always unroot and take everything root related off my sd card (actually use a backup sd card), but they would catch me if they ever checked my purchased Market apps.

[Q] Returning htc evo to sprint help

Ok so im having the loose usb port problem with my phone and im going to be sending it in for warranty exchange. One thing is i rooted my phone and the S-off shows up if you look. Also i never installed custom roms or anything so it looks like a normal evo if you flip through the menus and stuff. Superuser is also gone and no root apps or anything is on the phone just that it shows s-off if you look. So will sprint look for the s-off when i ship it back to them a charge me or anything?? im also running the OTA 2.3.3
htc-evo-4g said:
Ok so im having the loose usb port problem with my phone and im going to be sending it in for warranty exchange. One thing is i rooted my phone and the S-off shows up if you look. Also i never installed custom roms or anything so it looks like a normal evo if you flip through the menus and stuff. Superuser is also gone and no root apps or anything is on the phone just that it shows s-off if you look. So will sprint look for the s-off when i ship it back to them a charge me or anything?? im also running the OTA 2.3.3
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Different stores have different standards for root. My store here in knoxville told me, of course after I've unrooted sadly enough, that they do not check for s on. They only look to see if you have a custom Rom. And especially if it is a hardware, the rep told me they don't normally care either way. If it is software related, they will not work on a device running a custom Rom.
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ok well im actually sending it to sprint so do you think they will look when they receive it?
htc-evo-4g said:
ok well im actually sending it to sprint so do you think they will look when they receive it?
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I'm curious as to why you are sending it? Going to the store is easier. And also, if they don't fix rooted devices, all they can do is tell you no and send you away.
But personally I don't think they will check. Especially because your issue seems to be a major hardware issue.
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well ill trying going there again but when i was there they treated me like i was stupid and must have taken my truck and ran my phone over millions of times just to break the small internal usb port! like really?? when i go what should i say? the first time i went i said my usb port is broken and they told be i abuse the phone as i expressed and there repair tech had left already.
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well ill trying going there again but when i was there they treated me like i was stupid and must have taken my truck and ran my phone over millions of times just to break the small internal usb port! like really?? when i go what should i say? the first time i went i said my usb port is broken and they told be i abuse the phone as i expressed and there repair tech had left already.
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I also have had bad experiences at Sprint stores. They all seem to treat you like you're dumb, but soemtimes you get lucky and get to speak with a nice respectful rep.
Here is what I would say/do.
First, do you have insurance? That is very important.
If you do, try this. But proceed with caution.
Take your micro usb cord and really jam up your slot. Like, really bend the attachment piece out of place.
Go in and tell the rep that your device does not charge properly and really needs repair or replaced. Ask nicely. I'm sure those peeps deal with jerks all day long. Prolly why they dish back out to some of us nice folks.
Show the repair tech the damage.
If you have insurance they will be more than happy to help you.
If you don't have insurance please please please do not take this route!!!
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nope dont have insurance and the phone is only 7 months old and im having this problem and dont want to have to shell out mounds of cash to fix a pretty much brand new phone. wont sprint acknowledge this is a problem and replace it regardless?
htc-evo-4g said:
nope dont have insurance and the phone is only 7 months old and im having this problem and dont want to have to shell out mounds of cash to fix a pretty much brand new phone. wont sprint acknowledge this is a problem and replace it regardless?
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Oh.......
Here is the deal. I've asked several different sprint reps about this over the phone as well as in the store.
Once you purhase your Evo, sprint gives you a 30 day warranty. Within 30 days, you are eligible to return phone, trade phones, or replace phone with a brand new one if there are manufacture defects.
After 30 days, your Sprint purchase warranty ends. But HTC also has a warranty. It is a one year limited warranty. It is mainly for defects and other various issues. Basically, you send your phone ($6 shipping handling) to HTC and they diagnose it. If it is manufacture defect, they either repair or send you a refurbished device without charge. If they decide it is user error or you damaged phone, they call or email you to inform you that you have two options. A. pay full price for repair and shipping back home. B. Pay 35$ fee to get phone back unrepaired.
The deal is this. Sprint offers you the service and guarantees you service and only the service. Your device was not made by sprint but by HTC, and being so, issues must be dealt with through HTC...unless you purchase insurance.
This is my advice to you. Call sprint. Ask them about insurance. It is $7 a month. Ask them how soon it takes affect after you purchase it. Usually is immediate. Then, in the next week or so, go to sprint store. Now you have insurance and they will deal with you and repair your phone right there and then. And if you want, later after your device is fixed, you cancel insurance.
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ok ill go with the insurance way. they wont suspect fraud or anything thats the only reason i didnt want to do the insurance method
Whatever you decide to do, good luck to you!
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[Q] The truth about being rooted and taking phone back to sprint for replacement.

I know the general consensus is that sprint wont help with bricks or replace a phone due to rooting/Modding issues... but are there any sprint employees on here who know of a loophole? I've heard some say that it is still covered in warranty. Any insight from those who have had experiences with this?
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mrush said:
I know the general consensus is that sprint wont help with bricks or replace a phone due to rooting/Modding issues... but are there any sprint employees on here who know of a loophole? I've heard some say that it is still covered in warranty. Any insight from those who have had experiences with this?
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They should not hold it against you. They are supposed to treat it as if it were stock, and follow the same procedure as any other phone that is having issues. Some techs / service centers think they are the " Gods of Stock phones" and may try to make a big deal of your "rooted" or "tampered" with device. If they do give you a hard time, just leave with your device and go to another repair center. I think in the grand scheme of things, the percentage of customers who actually root and mod their devices is very small. It would be wise of you to at least have the service and repair coverage on your phone before you go in for replacement though. If you need it added PM me for more info...
I have had great experience with Sprint Tech's some of which are very familiar with rooting and the XDA forum. So did you brick your phone? Maybe it can be saved. I soft bricked mine but was able to boot into recovery and flash a stock unrooted rom and was able to re-root.
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Next1776 said:
They should not hold it against you. They are supposed to treat it as if it were stock, and follow the same procedure as any other phone that is having issues. Some techs / service centers think they are the " Gods of Stock phones" and may try to make a big deal of your "rooted" or "tampered" with device. If they do give you a hard time, just leave with your device and go to another repair center. I think in the grand scheme of things, the percentage of customers who actually root and mod their devices is very small. It would be wise of you to at least have the service and repair coverage on your phone before you go in for replacement though. If you need it added PM me for more info...
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^this
corporate policy states rooted phones are covered.
keep in mind this may not be the case at third party retailers and that any store manager can use their discretion to protect the company.....I.e. repeated hard bricks etc
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Next1776 said:
They should not hold it against you. They are supposed to treat it as if it were stock, and follow the same procedure as any other phone that is having issues. Some techs / service centers think they are the " Gods of Stock phones" and may try to make a big deal of your "rooted" or "tampered" with device. If they do give you a hard time, just leave with your device and go to another repair center. I think in the grand scheme of things, the percentage of customers who actually root and mod their devices is very small. It would be wise of you to at least have the service and repair coverage on your phone before you go in for replacement though. If you need it added PM me for more info...
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Doesn't work too well if you only have one repair center for miles.
I usually just bring it back to them stock as that's all my repair center knows how to do anyways.
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digiblur said:
Doesn't work too well if you only have one repair center for miles.
I usually just bring it back to them stock as that's all my repair center knows how to do anyways.
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if you have insurance and you know that they are going to give you a problem then your better off just smashing it, or run it over with your car. I bought my last phone at best buy and didn't have root on it just adw (Evo LTE). When the screen broke I brought it in and they gave me a hard time telling me that it was rooted and they don't cover rooted phones. He went out of his way to tell me that they do cover jail broke iphones though.. I then had to get his supervisor over and show her that it was not rooted and asked her if it was store policy to get there customers a hard time. 30 f n days later I got my phone back with a new screen.
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if you have insurance and you know that they are going to give you a problem then your better off just smashing it, or run it over with your car. I bought my last phone at best buy and didn't have root on it just adw (Evo LTE). When the screen broke I brought it in and they gave me a hard time telling me that it was rooted and they don't cover rooted phones. He went out of his way to tell me that they do cover jail broke iphones though.. I then had to get his supervisor over and show her that it was not rooted and asked her if it was store policy to get there customers a hard time. 30 f n days later I got my phone back with a new screen.
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The insurance is very helpful, I've done this on multiple occasions. I just dont like to deal with them giving me a hard time
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Nowadays when you deal with a broken phone you can just go online to Asurion cause they are the Insurance provider and they will ship you a refurbished phone and when you receive it you call them on the phone switch your IED # (or what ever it's called for Sprint since we dont have removable SIM cards) and then drop your busted one in the return shipping envelope and by then its done and you have your phone and it will just be shipped back to them to be disassembled. Then they will just try and salvage any parts they can for another refurbished device for another customer.
If its bricked ( as in won't boot up or similar) most techs won't know why, or how it got that way, so they should swap it out without a problem. Stock phones get bricked too. Recovering a bricked device can be time consuming and most likely a service center will not want, or have the knowledge, to take the time to save a device instead of exchanging it.
Running over or physically breaking your device and then doing an insurance claim through Sprints insurance provider (Asurion) is kind a silly thing to do (unless physical damage makes it necessary ) because you will be paying a deductible. A bricked non physically damaged unit can be swapped out at no charge if you have the Service and Repair coverage or TEP coverage.
JMHO...
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If its bricked ( as in won't boot up or similar) most techs won't know why, or how it got that way, so they should swap it out without a problem. Stock phones get bricked too. Recovering a bricked device can be time consuming and most likely a service center will not want, or have the knowledge, to take the time to save a device instead of exchanging it.
Running over or physically breaking your device and then doing an insurance claim through Sprints insurance provider (Asurion) is kind a silly thing to do (unless physical damage makes it necessary ) because you will be paying a deductible. A bricked non physically damaged unit can be swapped out at no charge if you have the Service and Repair coverage or TEP coverage.
JMHO...
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I wasn't recommending physically breaking it either. I was just saying that if you aren't a good talker and are afraid of facing someone and don't want to do a face to face then go through asurion. I wouldn't have a problem doing so, 85% of people who work in customer service either don't have the know how or the balls to tell someone they are wrong. You would be amazed what you can get from people with confidence.
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I wasn't recommending physically breaking it either. I was just saying that if you aren't a good talker and are afraid of facing someone and don't want to do a face to face then go through asurion. I wouldn't have a problem doing so, 85% of people who work in customer service either don't have the know how or the balls to tell someone they are wrong. You would be amazed what you can get from people with confidence.
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the problem I have with this is that physical damage claims through assurion require a deductable now. a hefty one on this phone.
when in doubt back up and unroot. it takes all of 5 minutes to do.
but as for the question at hand...they are supposed to be covered.
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When I go into sprint I just simply unroot.. I did that with my epic 4G touch when I took it in.. Im trying to think how did the Rep even get my phone lol.. I just went in to get a note 2..But rooting came up and She was going on and on with how they don't cover rooted phones.. I was laughing inside due to the phone she was holding has been rooted so many times and it would be no way to tell
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Direct from sprints Methods and Procedures
If the jailbreaking and modification are so extensive that the device cannot be used or triaged by the normal processes, then the device must be flagged as Red (Not Repairable) and are therefore not eligible for exchange.
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Basically meaning that if you come in with a totally bricked non bootable device and the boot loader shows device as modified we aren't allowed to do anything.
If the device works and is just having issues they are supposed to flash the stock software back to the phone as a resolution before doing an exchange.
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Direct from sprints Methods and Procedures
Basically meaning that if you come in with a totally bricked non bootable device and the boot loader shows device as modified we aren't allowed to do anything.
If the device works and is just having issues they are supposed to flash the stock software back to the phone as a resolution before doing an exchange.
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interesting. I dont recall seeing that part previously.
of course though if a device doesn't boot...there really is no way to tell if it was rooted
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00mred00 said:
interesting. I dont recall seeing that part previously.
of course though if a device doesn't boot...there really is no way to tell if it was rooted
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Maybe maybe not...it seems we may have spyware on our vanillaish devices...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015149
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00mred00 said:
the problem I have with this is that physical damage claims through assurion require a deductable now. a hefty one on this phone.
when in doubt back up and unroot. it takes all of 5 minutes to do.
but as for the question at hand...they are supposed to be covered.
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Just asking did you even read THE VERY FIRST sentence of the post you quoted? I stated that I was NOT recommending to physically break it. Then you proceed to quote the post and say the problem you have with the stated method is physical damage claims have a deductible... ?
I've taken obviously rooted phones for repair and never had any issues. Matter of fact on a couple of occasions I was asked for help with rooting.
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Sprint will not provide support for phones that are rooted or running 3rd party software (roms). That is to say that if you are having issues with data, apps or such and running a rooted rom you will be required to return the phone to stock before any is performed. They Justdon't havethe resources to support every software variety out there. That's not to say that mechanical failure is no longer covered. I do still recommend returning a phone to stock before bringing it into a repair center regardless of the issue. If this seems like too much trouble then perhaps rooting and customizing is not for you.
iPhones are a whole different animal however and any jail broken iPhone is no longer covered and employees have been instructed to flag the device. This is due to Apple.
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ProCision said:
if you have insurance and you know that they are going to give you a problem then your better off just smashing it, or run it over with your car. I bought my last phone at best buy and didn't have root on it just adw (Evo LTE). When the screen broke I brought it in and they gave me a hard time telling me that it was rooted and they don't cover rooted phones. He went out of his way to tell me that they do cover jail broke iphones though.. I then had to get his supervisor over and show her that it was not rooted and asked her if it was store policy to get there customers a hard time. 30 f n days later I got my phone back with a new screen.
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Best who? Never... Oh wait. That's the store, the mobile dept specifically, that I have vowed to never spend another dime in. Treated like trash twice... Not again.
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Tw1sted247 said:
Just asking did you even read THE VERY FIRST sentence of the post you quoted? I stated that I was NOT recommending to physically break it. Then you proceed to quote the post and say the problem you have with the stated method is physical damage claims have a deductible... ?
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you made reference to a broken screen and to asurion ...deductible applies
all I am saying
schale01....the information you are posting is incorrect in regards to corporate repair stores. the policy was chamged last year to cover rooted phones
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