Dear all,
I have a EURO Desire Z.
When I use a Sense based ROMs (in fact, stock or Virtuous) I have a fairly nice battery life, that is, in the 30 hours range.
However, with any kind of CM6 or CM7 (or even Vilain ROMs), the battery life is really reduced. Like 12-15h max (almost without any use).
The battery monitor will show that most power is eaten by Cell Standby, Wifi and Bluetooth. I tried different radios, but the result is still the same. I also tried various CPU governor settings, but it didn't change the big picture.
Any idea on what may be wrong ?
I found that CM6.1.1 did that to me too, but reverting to 6.1 got me very good battery life. While I like the Sense widgets, I much prefer vanilla for everything else so i have't lived with a Sense rom long enough to see if it gets better battery life than CM6.1
nbougues said:
Dear all,
I have a EURO Desire Z.
When I use a Sense based ROMs (in fact, stock or Virtuous) I have a fairly nice battery life, that is, in the 30 hours range.
However, with any kind of CM6 or CM7 (or even Vilain ROMs), the battery life is really reduced. Like 12-15h max (almost without any use).
The battery monitor will show that most power is eaten by Cell Standby, Wifi and Bluetooth. I tried different radios, but the result is still the same. I also tried various CPU governor settings, but it didn't change the big picture.
Any idea on what may be wrong ?
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I have the exact same issue as you with CM6 (retarded <12 hr battery life with light-moderate use). After seeing your post, I've decided to try a sense rom for myself. Will post results tonight or in a day.
Nope. Still drains like ****.
This may be teaching you to suck eggs, but are you recalibrating your battery after flashing a new ROM?
I found my battery life was immediately atrocious after flashing, until I completely drained the battery til phone wouldn't switch, then charge while switched off, until green light + a couple of hours. Then wipe battery stats in ClockworkMod.
After this, I found my battery life on CM 6 was really good.
setspeed said:
This may be teaching you to suck eggs, but are you recalibrating your battery after flashing a new ROM?
I found my battery life was immediately atrocious after flashing, until I completely drained the battery til phone wouldn't switch, then charge while switched off, until green light + a couple of hours. Then wipe battery stats in ClockworkMod.
After this, I found my battery life on CM 6 was really good.
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No, I never did that. I'm not really familiar with the "battery calibration" stuff, but it sounds like something that will help to get good linearity in battery capacity estimation over time.
What I'm pretty sure, though, is that at some point (like 10-12h), the phone turns itself off. I believe that it has to do with insufficient voltage at battery terminals, rather than some sort of estimation of remaining capacity.
Or am I totally off ?
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Has anyone else had any battery life problems with the new Rom by ookba? I have one of those extended life batteries in my excalibur ( it is a 2400 mAh ) and I have found it loses power much quicker after I installed the new Rom by ookba. By the way I love the Rom it is awesome! But I was wondering if there is something I could do to increase the battery life more like it was befor I installed the new Rom. I do not want to take the new Rom off cause it Rocks!
I would like to have the battery last a bit longer though.. I don't know if it is the titanium panels or what that is making it lose power so quick after I have it on all day ( with bt off and wi-fi only occasionally ) it drops to 70 to 60 percent power by nightime. I have the normal stuff set up on the phone to use the best possible battery life but uses a lot more battery than befor I put the new Rom by ookba in.
I am looking for some answers but do not want to take this super Rom off my phone.
Thanks!
Personally my battery life has drastically improved since I moved from one of the Rose's Roms to 3VO's Rom. I had no idea that a Rom could make such a big difference in terms of battery life.
My battery life has gone down since upgrade to "3VO Rom ver 2.50 080809"(But still I like this rom). It only lasts 18hrs without any extensive usage. I will suspect that its radio which is causing this drain.
ramfan43 said:
I have one of those extended life batteries in my excalibur ( it is a 2400 mAh ) and I have found it loses power much quicker after I installed the new Rom by ookba.
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That is reallly odd. I have a 1550 mAh extended battery, and in one day of decent usage I only go down to 80% on a daily basis.
What I do notice is that once I hit 35-40%, battery usage increases insanely (but i am assuming that this is due to some anti-fail methods used to preserve the phones functions and whatever you may be working on , but i may be wrong). But besides that, i have had no real power issues...
jharag said:
My battery life has gone down since upgrade to "3VO Rom ver 2.50 080809"(But still I like this rom). It only lasts 18hrs without any extensive usage. I will suspect that its radio which is causing this drain.
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same thing here. i switched back to 2.0 and have been very happy with the battery life...
This has been a well documented issue with the 2.50 version of the ROM. Ookba is aware and has mentioned reverting to an older core but keeping the same UI tweaks and feel of 2.50. If the drain is that much of a concern try version 2.00, 071809. It supposedly has a 'hole' in it but I never noticed it. The icons are a little different and there aren't as many UI tweaks but I had GREAT battery life on it. But if you can deal with it for a while Ookba I am sure will have something for us to try when he gets done over on the Maple page. The Dash 3G needs 3VO too ya know. So its up to you. Try the other ROM that doesn't have as much eye candy but has better life until a new release, or deal with the battery drain like the rest of us and wait for a new release. I just close out my programs as much as I can. I have a 960 maH and I get about 24 hours with regular use. Up to you.
battery life is so good so far
the battery life was good and improved and the mobile changed totally as i feel i got new one thanks for 3vo rom
I have noticed that my battery is also going low very quickly after this rom upgrade. today I'v removed omap clock settings from startup and looking what will happen. I think the OMAP is eating more power from my battery. the battery is 960mah and lasted 3-4 days with previous NRG rom.
well i completely agree i am using same battery and it was draining very quickly so i switched back to kavana 6.1 and every thing was normal again
idinaxui said:
I have noticed that my battery is also going low very quickly after this rom upgrade. today I'v removed omap clock settings from startup and looking what will happen. I think the OMAP is eating more power from my battery. the battery is 960mah and lasted 3-4 days with previous NRG rom.
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I improved battery performance by using the OMAP Clock GUI and setting the low-end to 180 and the high-end to 252.
I agree, it must have something to do with the last version because the previous versions didn't drain so quickly...
I disabled omap and nothing significant happened, during the night in standby mode the battery was drained from 60% to 25%. now I disabled titanium panels and changed back to sliding panels. And there is IT! the battery life is much better, I think the "power eater" was titanium panel. You can give it try and post results.
remove check status mscr
its in the startup folder. helped me alot. before with my phone habits i would make it about 3hrs if that.
ookba posted this in his ROM thread.
idinaxui said:
I disabled omap and nothing significant happened, during the night in standby mode the battery was drained from 60% to 25%. now I disabled titanium panels and changed back to sliding panels. And there is IT! the battery life is much better, I think the "power eater" was titanium panel. You can give it try and post results.
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There's no way that's possible. If anything, HTC Sliding Panels will eat more battery than CHome because it's a loyout no longer native to the OS. checkstatus.mscr is the culprit. Almost positive.
I Do Completly Agree ...
Yes I feel the 3VO Rom Ver 2.50.080809.. makes the effect on the performance of the Battery Life, I would indeed like make a STRONG APPEAL on behalf of all the users of 3VO Rom Ver 2.50.080809, to MR. OOBKA that he should get us some way of it , because we love and admire his hard work a Lot.
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Karan Adhikari
World War-III - No option but only WIN
Battery Patch
Guys, I built a patch file that makes a few changes in an attempt to help battery life. Please install it and reboot.
Also could be found on the second post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=224547&d=1252178358
well i'm 3 hours into testing the patch.. gonna see if i can beat my normal 24-36 hours limit. i'll let you know tomorrow if i see any improvement
for me its a big improvement almost half day since i last charge my dash and with normal used im on 93%, before it will eat up 20% just texting from time to time.
tomorow i'll post again, before i can used my dash with the newest rom for just 1 1/2 day or less.
*70% left for 24 hrs
im in the middle of figuring out something. Its highly unlikely this is ookba's problem but, i installed the patch and got great battery life for 2 days about 5 hours longer than normal. I fully recharged before i went to bed and woke up this morning with my battery at 38% thats a 62% lose in less than 8 hours... anyone have any ideas. I'm used to running 18-30 hours non stop on this battery
2.50 and 2.60 rom update
i keep getting an error on my phone from time to time
Tmobile Dash 3G Mapl100
error: Cannot find window "DesktopExplorerWindow"
ive done hard reset's and everything still comes up on both roms
Just recieved my 2400 MAH extended battery, I have had the device running now for 12 hours straight with all connectivity turned on (including syncing, wifi, data) and in that time I have also done some web browsing. The battery is still at 100%.
I know it is an extended battery but still, by now my standard battery would be at 50% roughly.
My concept is that the standard battery the phone comes with maybe faulty or have some problems?
Any thoughts or ideas?
dhiral.v said:
My concept is that the standard battery the phone comes with maybe faulty or have some problems?
Any thoughts or ideas?
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It heavily depends on the ROM you're using... I've tested several Sense and non Sense ROMs and the variation of the battery could go from 1 to 3 days aprox. I'm actually using OpenDesire latest ROM and its easy to get 2 days of battery life with a normal use and 3G/Sync enabled all the time.
Obviously having a more powerfull battery also helps...
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It heavily depends on the ROM you're using... I've tested several Sense and non Sense ROMs and the variation of the battery could go from 1 to 3 days aprox. I'm actually using OpenDesire latest ROM and its easy to get 2 days of battery life with a normal use and 3G/Sync enabled all the time.
Obviously having a more powerfull battery also helps...
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Well i've got an unrooted desire and using stock 2.2 rom. The battery life has been so bad, even when i turn syncing off.
I know its an extended battery but still why was the standard battery so bad
Hmm. Not sure. I don't have a bad battery life, but that sounds pretty awesome as far as battery life goes. You wouldn't happen to have a link to where you bought that from would ya? Would be interested in taking a look at it my self. Is it larger then the normal battery, or just higher capacity? I know many of the aftermarket batteries are a good deal larger then the stock ones.
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The battery is still at 100%
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I can't see how your battery could possibly show 100% after 12hrs usage
It's either bad battery stats, or the battery status indicator isn't scaled correctly for your battery.
Regards,
Dave
it is probably because its voltage figure is still higher than that of a standard one.
I'd like to hear some experiences that everyone is having on how the battery life is on the stock ROM (POST OTA, NOT OVERCLOCKED) vs custom ROMs (Again, NOT overclocked).
I've tried the Virtuous ROM, and as expected the battery life got slurped down like coca-cola! CM6.1 isn't as bad, but still seems to suck the life out of the battery quite a bit faster than stock.
Is everyone seeing similar? What makes the stock ROM so much better on the battery?
My experience was actually quite the opposite. When I switched to CM, my battery life improved by about 20-25%. I have a NAM Desire Z so it was running HTC Sense over Froyo.
Remember that it takes a few days of usage for your battery to 'calibrate' itself to the new ROM. My first two days on CM were really bad, but since then, battery life has improved greatly. Yesterday, after moderate use and 15 hours, I still had 45% of my battery left. With my stock ROM, I would be lucky to get 15 hours of use out of the phone period.
As far as overclocking goes, I haven't seen much of a difference in battery life. Reason is, even though you are overclocked when the screen is on, you can adjust settings to under-clock at other times, saving battery power.
I would recommend trying a Custom ROM for 4-5 days, that will give you a better idea about its battery life. Also, there are lots of settings you can tweak that affect battery life greatly. Widgets, background data, signal strength... SOO many variables in personal usage that battery life is going to fluctuate user to user regardless.
I have poor battery life on my desire, it barely lasts 7 hours. I have tried wiping battery stats etc, and have the screen brightness at 50%. I have read that some kernels can greatly improve battery life, is this true? If so, which would you recommend, and do I just flash it like I would a rom? I am using the latest miui.
Cheers,
Steve
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
They can but finding the underlying app causing the phone not to sleep would be what I'd be looking at. Remove all installed apps and add them 1 at a time and see how the battery goes
EddyOS said:
They can but finding the underlying app causing the phone not to sleep would be what I'd be looking at. Remove all installed apps and add them 1 at a time and see how the battery goes
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Yeah i've tried this, there's nothing draining the battery.
Not at all
Such battery drainage can only be induced by either heavy usage, or phone not being able to go to sleep.
The differences between kernels in custom roms are merely a shades since all of them are pretty much battery efficient. You won't miraculously jump from battery life of 7 hours to 30 hours. Concentrate on your apps or even better, third party Widgets.
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Probably a hardware fault then - the OS on it's own with no apps installed shouldn't drain a battery that quickly. Did you also turn off the sync options to test that theory?
Personally sounds like a knackered battery/phone
If it isn't apps/widgets (they are the culprit for heavy usage) then it would prob be a faulty battery. I did a little test last month to see how much battery I could lose in 24 hours. I lost 8%. I guess it could be a baseline to start off with.
I know there are hundreds of these threads but i was unable to find the information that I'm looking for. But my guess is there is no real answer to my question. But i've been wrong before. Please bear with me
Here goes.
I want to know how to maximize the battery when USING the phone. I dont care about wakelocks or sleep time etc.
I am interested in getting to max out the usage time.
For example when I stream radio and surf the net and text. My phone lasts 2 hours with max birghtness. That seems really short.
- I've done all that I know to minimize power consumption with turning off sync, settings, etc.
- I have tasker starting and stopping data during screen on/off.
- I have the phone UV and under clocked.
- I Limit my phone to 3G only, with no LTE
- Also signal is not a problem since I can stream and surf without an issue. With areas with poor reception. I don’t even use the phone really
-*I also have all the chats turned on include facebook, whats app, etc. Once again, phone is awake. and I'm concerned with its ON screen usage battery time.
- I even have the second CPU setting on conservative. (when set on ondemand it drains even faster)
But during usage, its terribly short! What can I do to prolong the life?
The battery was always like this and I dont believe its defective. With regular use, checking phone (once or twice every hour) can easily last a day. But during multitasking usage I notice the drain to be 49-59% per hour according to battery spy.
I know I can uninstall battery spy/BBS to conserve battery. But I'm looking for what some are reporting (4-5 hours of on screen usage time).
Looking for some guru-like advice Thansk in advanced
Personally, I get the best battery life out of the stock kernel of whatever particular ROM I'm running. I stick with tw based ROMs, and I greenify almost everything! I consistently get between 5 and 6 hours of "screen on" time with the stock battery.
You never said what ROM and kernel combo you're using. I know that I get 3 to 4 hours of screen time depending on the apps used and the connections utilized (wifi, signal strength, LTE or H+, etc). 2 hours definitely sounds low though. I'm using stock debloated ROM right now and stock kernel. I have not modified voltage or clocking in any way (yet).
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DMF1977 said:
Personally, I get the best battery life out of the stock kernel of whatever particular ROM I'm running. I stick with tw based ROMs, and I greenify almost everything! I consistently get between 5 and 6 hours of "screen on" time with the stock battery.
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I didnt really notice any improvements on the KT747 vs stock kernel.
I greenify everything except for the messaging apps. But then again, when my screen is on, i want ot be using those apps.
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You never said what ROM and kernel combo you're using. I know that I get 3 to 4 hours of screen time depending on the apps used and the connections utilized (wifi, signal strength, LTE or H+, etc). 2 hours definitely sounds low though. I'm using stock debloated ROM right now and stock kernel. I have not modified voltage or clocking in any way (yet).
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Its in my sig
Stock 4.1.1 JB
KT747
3G good signal.
Using tune in radio while texting on go sms and surfing using chrome with 7 tabs open
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You're doing heavy multitasking!! It's going to eat the battery, sorry, but no one's going to post a magic "cure" to increase battery life! Buy an extended battery... Problem solved.
DMF1977 said:
You're doing heavy multitasking!! It's going to eat the battery, sorry, but no one's going to post a magic "cure" to increase battery life! Buy an extended battery... Problem solved.
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Websurf and radio or text and radio is just 2 tasks occuring.
Well I can say that running on Wifi, I can get regular battery life about 4-5 hours of use and over 20 hours of idle time.
The radio seems to be the main culprit, so the question is..... what can be done about that?
I'm asking because
- I flashed diff modems and seems to yield same results
- other S3 from my friends seems to last longer with multitasking
- signal....strong or weak seems to produce same drain.
Battery?
mikoal said:
Websurf and radio or text and radio is just 2 tasks occuring.
Well I can say that running on Wifi, I can get regular battery life about 4-5 hours of use and over 20 hours of idle time.
The radio seems to be the main culprit, so the question is..... what can be done about that?
I'm asking because
- I flashed diff modems and seems to yield same results
- other S3 from my friends seems to last longer with multitasking
- signal....strong or weak seems to produce same drain.
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I've had the same problem. I couldn't get the same battery life as others I know. I always turn my GPS off if I didn't need to use it. Google now seemed to kill my battery so I stopped using it. But, the one thing I did notice is that the battery stats can be a little deceiving. If I left my phone off the charger and didn't use it for 10 hours and then started to play a game, it would look like I was getting good battery life as I would have about 60% battery left. Now if I played the game right after unplugging my phone, and then after the same 10 hours I'd be around 40%. Hopefully that makes sense.
One thing that I did do to overcome this was get an extended battery. It does add a little bulk, but now I can use my phone like I want and not have to worry about my phone dying on me at night. I can even forget to plug it in and still have battery the next day. For me I got the hyperion 4200 battery. The Zero Lemon seemed just to big for my tastes.
The other thing is also the ROM. At times I have found the same ROM but a different version exhibited different results. All ROM's offer something different so it is a give and take situation.
I hope this helped.
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I've had the same problem. I couldn't get the same battery life as others I know. I always turn my GPS off if I didn't need to use it. Google now seemed to kill my battery so I stopped using it. But, the one thing I did notice is that the battery stats can be a little deceiving. If I left my phone off the charger and didn't use it for 10 hours and then started to play a game, it would look like I was getting good battery life as I would have about 60% battery left. Now if I played the game right after unplugging my phone, and then after the same 10 hours I'd be around 40%. Hopefully that makes sense.
One thing that I did do to overcome this was get an extended battery. It does add a little bulk, but now I can use my phone like I want and not have to worry about my phone dying on me at night. I can even forget to plug it in and still have battery the next day. For me I got the hyperion 4200 battery. The Zero Lemon seemed just to big for my tastes.
The other thing is also the ROM. At times I have found the same ROM but a different version exhibited different results. All ROM's offer something different so it is a give and take situation.
I hope this helped.
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Yea my gps only turns on when my map turns on via tasker. I also dont have google now on.
Ya i understand what you mean on the percentages.
Ive seen people wiht great battery life, i wanted to try to acheive that without an extended bat. I was wondering if there was somehting that was obvious, or some radio battery drain fix. (I even tried only 3G, and still drains)
Thanks
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Yea my gps only turns on when my map turns on via tasker. I also dont have google now on.
Ya i understand what you mean on the percentages.
Ive seen people wiht great battery life, i wanted to try to acheive that without an extended bat. I was wondering if there was somehting that was obvious, or some radio battery drain fix. (I even tried only 3G, and still drains)
Thanks
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It's a little hard to compare, but right now I'm on a 4.3 ROM and the battery life has been exceptional. Otherwise the next one that has been closest for me in terms of battery life has been Dandroid. Also, it's hard to judge a ROM after a day.
I guess I should have asked if you have tried or have any interest in a custom ROM.
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It's a little hard to compare, but right now I'm on a 4.3 ROM and the battery life has been exceptional. Otherwise the next one that has been closest for me in terms of battery life has been Dandroid. Also, it's hard to judge a ROM after a day.
I guess I should have asked if you have tried or have any interest in a custom ROM.
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I tried customs like AOKP, PA, CM etc before. I dindt notice a gain in bat life.
I do enjoy's stocks stability so I would like to find a solution with my stock phone. But doesnt see like theres one....
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I tried customs like AOKP, PA, CM etc before. I dindt notice a gain in bat life.
I do enjoy's stocks stability so I would like to find a solution with my stock phone. But doesnt see like theres one....
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I've had a hard time getting really good battery life from the stock ROM. At best using greenify, I could prolong it a bit. If you are interested in a stock ROM with some tweaks, I always suggest S3Rx, or Dandroid if you want a slimmed down version without the bloat.
You can always try the power save mode as that does seem to help some, but you may experience some lag.
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I've had a hard time getting really good battery life from the stock ROM. At best using greenify, I could prolong it a bit. If you are interested in a stock ROM with some tweaks, I always suggest S3Rx, or Dandroid if you want a slimmed down version without the bloat.
You can always try the power save mode as that does seem to help some, but you may experience some lag.
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Ive frozen most of the bloat, greenified everything, plus I unclocked and under volted it, so any lag I would feel from power safe wont affect me since i believe power save throttles to 1350 ish .