Does anyone think they might make a tablet dock?
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I've talked quite a bit about that with my friends. That would be awesome, but it would require 2 full Android OS on the phone (well, if you want a Honeycomb tablet, that is). Still, it's probably doable. I already have a powerful laptop and, being a developer, I need the extra power and RAM for software like Eclipse and VS.NET, so the laptop dock is not for me (really, it's seems to be just an "internet laptop"). A tablet, though? That would be great. I'd save quite a few bucks, since I'm eyeing the Xoom at the moment
I'm not a developer or a techie, just an avid consumer. A BT or other "wireless" connection would be great. Just slip the phone in you pocket and carry on. Almost as good, probably better from the do-ability point of view would be a dock for the phone that would allow you to use the phone as a grip for a ten inch touch screen. I would love to have one I could draw on but that is probably asking too much.
But as an architect, this capability, enterprise remote desktop and a pixel qi or mirasol type screen, I can get a lot of work done out of the office.
Couldn't it just be the lappy dock without the keyboard to begin with?
I'm no fan of AT&T but for a variety of reasons me and my N1 reside there, so at a subsidized price, this looking pretty attractive for out of office capabilities.
I am not so sure that a "Tablet Dock" would really work. The only way to dock the atrix to something like that would be
A) On the back side adding an odd bulge to the device making it hardly feasible
B)Dock to the side or the bottom which would cause the tablet to be too long or too wide
C) Dock it inside the "Tablet" which would probably make the "tablet" too thick for consumer tastes
My bet is that we will NOT see a tablet dock, though if they could find a way do it right without any of the above mentioned scenarios occurring it would be a hell of a concept.
LockeCPM4 said:
I am not so sure that a "Tablet Dock" would really work. The only way to dock the atrix to something like that would be
A) On the back side adding an odd bulge to the device making it hardly feasible
B)Dock to the side or the bottom which would cause the tablet to be too long or too wide
C) Dock it inside the "Tablet" which would probably make the "tablet" too thick for consumer tastes
My bet is that we will NOT see a tablet dock, though if they could find a way do it right without any of the above mentioned scenarios occurring it would be a hell of a concept.
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I tried it with my Nexus 1, holding an ipad on top of it,even with the trackball, it was comfortable in the hand, although it would get heavy. If it were just the screen and dock a few ounces would be spared. With the accelerometer it is either left handed or right handed in portrait. A screen with a "j" at the center of the long side could be quite compelling. It does need a way of making sure the phone was secure.
edit. I rigged up my phone so it was stuck to the ipad and it was actually more comfortable walking around with it that way than the way I usually hold it -- but it did get heavy.
I was thinking of the C) option (dock the phone INSIDE the tablet). Yes, that would mean a thickier tablet, but to me that's the only viable way to do it. Otherwise it loses a lot of the convenience of a tablet. Remember that you don't need CPU/RAM/Storage or even battery (ok, maybe battery) in the tablet, it would be just a bigger touchscreen that would load Honeycomb and use the phone's processing power, so it doesn't have to be that much thicker than the phone (and I've played with the Galaxy Tab a bit, it is already quite thicker than a phone).
Yes but the reason I doubt we will see a tablet dock is because it will eat into Zoom sales.
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Yes but the reason I doubt we will see a tablet dock is because it will eat into Zoom sales.
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Not necessarily because the Atrix 4G is an AT&T device while the Xoom is a Verizon Wireless device. A tablet dock whould just make the Atrix into a "AT&T Xoom"
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Not necessarily because the Atrix 4G is an AT&T device while the Xoom is a Verizon Wireless device. A tablet dock whould just make the Atrix into a "AT&T Xoom"
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Actually, now that I think about it...
What separates the Atrix and the Xoom (besides the obvious things like screen size, battery size, etc)?
How different, if at all, are the processors?
How much RAM does the Xoom have?
Does the Xoom have a different graphics processor? (a non-integrated one)
If there isn't much of a difference between the two, I don't see why a slot-loading (LOL nostalgia) 10-in screen with a nice battery packed in there can't work as a tablet.
well, a tablet accessory would change the possibility that I buy this phone in the near future from most likely to definately Now if anyone could make a stable version of qemu for android...
If they do make one I'm sure it will be five thousand dollars.
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If they do make one I'm sure it will be five thousand dollars.
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Well that's not realistic at all...the zoom is 800, a shell with a 10" touch screen and a battery wouldn't be that expensive probably less than the laptop dock as the laptop has a keyboard and a slightly bigger display
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SN4K3B1T3 said:
Well that's not realistic at all...the zoom is 800, a shell with a 10" touch screen and a battery wouldn't be that expensive probably less than the laptop dock as the laptop has a keyboard and a slightly bigger display
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I don't think you caught his sarcasm there.
If I assume right, he's just making fun of the ridiculous mindset that ATT has with pricing their most innovating products, and screwing/ripping the joy straight from their customers.
I agree that the tablet will be about five thousand dollars had ATT come out with one. Oh, and add that a new tethering plan called tethering+ would be introduced to complement that tablet. It would be an addition 100bucks added to the original tether plan that you should have already bought.
I think that would be awesome. As was already pointed out, it would just have to be a touchscreen and a battery. Not too complicated. It seems like having it slot into the back would make the most sense. Then there would just be a bulge on one side. That is, unless the whole tablet was that thick, but I think it would make more sense to have a slight bulge on one side than an über thick tablet (unless all that space is battery!).
My Nook color cost $250 and has a 7" IPS panel at 1024x600. I don't see any reason that a 10" screen with similar/slightly better resolution, paired with a battery couldn't be produced for $200 or so. No CPU, RAM, etc, heck it wouldn't even have to have speakers. The only extra thing I could see being of use would possibly be some space for a Honeycomb ROM that the Atrix could boot up for use with the tablet.
Hopefully Motorola does this, or somebody in China does.
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I don't think the pricing is AT&T's fault here. The Xoom is a VZW device, yet is selling for a ridiculous $800+ +one month data. Motorola is getting greedy, IMO. Hopefully a soon-to-be crowded Android tablet market will knock the Xoom down a few hundred.
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The Nintendo DSi is equipped with a built-in stylus which makes it possible to play games and interact with the 3.25 inch screen in a way not possible just using fingers and is accepted as a normal. However, when a stylus is added to a smart phone it is regarded as a backward step. Perhaps this attitude will change if the stylus becomes more common on smart phones.
did you see the new Galaxy Notes
it brought back the stylus
^^^ yep. The reason styluses were big a while back was 2 fold. 1) the touch screens were resistive touch technology and could utilize a stylus in the first place and 2) the physical screen sizes and software of yesterday didn't allow you to be able to use your fingers to do everything. Typing on a 3 inch screen running Winmo 6.5 wasn't exactly easy as pie.
Not sure how the Note is incorporating the stylus into their capacitive technology, but I've seen it in action and it's pretty cool.
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Not sure about now, but I'm pretty sure that the DS still uses a resistive touch screen. May not be true now, but in my past experiences, I remember it being kinda hard to use your finger on the DS - you really had to tap it.
The Note uses a stylus as a drawing tool and to take notes, use swype, etc. Looks pretty bad*ss if you ask me. I love the size of the screen. (lol)
EDIT: With the screen sizes manufactures are shelling out now, using a stylus will probably be more difficult and time consuming than just using your finger. Think about it. Moving a 2 cm point across a 5" screen doesn't sound ideal.
DS is resistive. I think stylus' are going to be out soon, with capacitative. Who hasn't lost a stylus before anyway. lol
Stylus are out for the devices, I currently have 2. I purchased mine in Canada... which means they are likely available in etheopia at this point....
My first one I found was in with IPad accessories, my second was with the display of tablets at Staples as well as best buy it was a full sized capacitive for 29$. The first was a stubby one for 12$ cdn. I've had them for 3 months.
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Nobody in their right minds would want to return to the days where you scraped a cheap bit of plastic across your screen!
That is all.
DirkGently1 said:
Nobody in their right minds would want to return to the days where you scraped a cheap bit of plastic across your screen!
That is all.
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Many people want a fine-tipped stylus to increase the usefulness of their smart phone. There are plenty of smart phones without a stylus to choose from without being patronizing towards those who want one.
I dont mind stylyses they have their uses, especially for note pad type apps. To bad I loose them all the time.
Stylus is good to use with smartphones, because sometimes fingers are too big to operate on the screen. But the weakness of stylus is that it's too easy to be lost. And it's not so convenient to use on the go. If manufactures can find a way to fix this problem, I think it would be more popular.
It's from the same seller that sells the Poetic cases so customer service should be stellar if there are any problems. And their keyboard for the 1st gen N7 gets pretty decent reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/Exact-Bluetoo...=8-1&keywords=exact+google+nexus+7+2+keyboard
Here are the reviews for the 1st gen:
http://www.amazon.com/Exact-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Rubberized-Non-Slip/dp/B00AD9RLJ6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_2
This is exactly what I came here looking for: a Bluetooth keyboard to use with my Nexus 7. For $10, I think I'll pull the trigger. The reviews of the first-gen aren't too promising, but it seems like they took care of a few of the concerns voiced in those reviews (the Tab key, etc.). I guess I'll find out whether or not I like it when it gets here. Again, for $10, why not?
I figured the same. I've spent 10 bucks on dumber stuff than this...let's give it a try.
Wow... $10 looks like a steal for that keyboard; I bought what looks like the same one for 3 times as much off ebay.
If it is the same one, I like it a lot less than the model for the original Nexus 7. The ridge around it (the silver part) is actually taller for some reason -- though the entire thing is still slimmer thanks to the nexus 7 itself being slimmer -- but the worst part is the fit; it's loose, the tablet slides around (horizontally if you are reading the nexus logo straight on.) (If the "Exact" model DOESN'T have that issue please let me know so I can get one. )
None of that is a deal breaker for me though; I still like the case enough to use it. Keeps the screen protected and clips in and out, then lets you type when you need to.
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If anyone who gets this case can post some pics and reviews, that would be much appreciated. I'm looking for a good, no frills keyboard, and this could be it.
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By the time someone gets it and posts a review, they're probably going to raise the price. They always start off with an introductory promo price like they did with the Poetic case. FWIW, the same keyboard for the old N7 is $18.95.
I should've bought it last night. The price has already doubled & jumped to $19.95.
Damn, I wanted it for 10 bucks. I'll wait for it.
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See edit; the issue outlined in the following paragraph has been remedied:
Well I got mine today, and I have to say, I'm kind of disappointed. It fits the tablet perfectly when closed, but it JUST misses the mark when standing it up. It seems like the lip where the bottom part of the tablet hits, to prevent it from falling over, is around half a millimeter too long, the tablet almost catches, but doesn't quite do it. I think just a little bit more of the tablet needs to get underneath it, and it'll catch. I have some pics that I took; I'll upload them later tonight or early tomorrow (I don't usually post from the mobile app).
That aside: I really like this case. It fits the N7 snugly when closed, the keyboard part works well, and it seems like it would protect the tablet if one should need it. I would be extremely satisfied with this keyboard/protector if only the tablet stood in it. I'll try to contact customer service and let them know the critical design flaw so they can remedy it ASAP.
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OK, never mind the first paragraph. Figured it out. The little rubber strip down in the groove where the tablet sits to stand up wasn't fully glued down so the tablet was sitting higher than it should have been. After pressing the strip down to be flush with the bottom of the groove, the tablet now stands up. I'm happy now. After using it this weekend I'll edit this post with a review after using it a few days.
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Hmm it looks like a nice keyboard but is it stable? Like it looks like a small tap and Itll come off and fall off ...which wouldn't be nice for my Nexus
I ended up getting this Logitech keyboard from Ebay. It doesn't function as a case like the Exact keyboard but it's longer so typing should be more comfortable. Won the auction for $16 including shipping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKQJtNjl0E
Mine showed today as well. Very happy for 10 bucks. Works a treat.
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clankfu said:
I ended up getting this Logitech keyboard from Ebay. It doesn't function as a case like the Exact keyboard but it's longer so typing should be more comfortable. Won the auction for $16 including shipping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKQJtNjl0E
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I heard that this logitech keyboard was incompatible with the new Nexus 7 and gives repeated inputs because of that bluetooth bug.
Hope to hear from you coz I'm considering this keyboard as well.
roytse said:
I heard that this logitech keyboard was incompatible with the new Nexus 7 and gives repeated inputs because of that bluetooth bug.
Hope to hear from you coz I'm considering this keyboard as well.
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I'll let you know when I get it and try it out.
how much battery does a bluetooth keyboard drain off the tablet?
floryn35 said:
how much battery does a bluetooth keyboard drain off the tablet?
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Directly? None.
Indirectly (meaning requiring the Bluetooth antenna be on at all times)? Very little in the grand scheme of things.
roytse said:
I heard that this logitech keyboard was incompatible with the new Nexus 7 and gives repeated inputs because of that bluetooth bug.
Hope to hear from you coz I'm considering this keyboard as well.
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I received it today and briefly tested it. Didn't experience any repeated inputs.
I really like it so far. Very comfortable to type on and the function keys work well except for the browser key which kind of sucks. I'm wondering if there's any way to map that key to open a 3rd party browser.
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I received it today and briefly tested it. Didn't experience any repeated inputs.
I really like it so far. Very comfortable to type on and the function keys work well except for the browser key which kind of sucks. I'm wondering if there's any way to map that key to open a 3rd party browser.
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Thank you for your input, I might go ahead and buy that
I purchased this keyboard because for $10 why not. The build quality is nice, connecting to bluetooth is simple and it works, it functions well, the rechargeable battery is nice and everything. I especially like that it clips on to the N7 but that's also the 2 issues I have with the keyboard. 1 being it's a bit too small for my comfort and 2 being that the clip right by the space bar makes it difficult to hit the space bar. It's not really the keyboard fault I guess, those 2 things are sacrificed for the convenience of having it clip onto the N7 (though I do have a case already, it makes it easier to be able to carry the KB together with the case, haven't used my N7 outside the house yet however). For what I paid it's great, I wouldn't send it back but it still doesn't make typing that much easier for me. Trust me I'm trying to get better with typing on it, I've typed about those damn quick brown foxes so many times but I just end up making so many typos.
The only other keyboard I was looking at was the $40 Logitech one but it's pretty bulky for a 7 inch tablet (though that's probably the smallest it can get without sacrificing functionality) , it takes 4 batteries and I hear it has issues with the latest Jelly Bean. So whatever, for $10 I'll take what I can get.
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The only other keyboard I was looking at was the $40 Logitech one but it's pretty bulky for a 7 inch tablet (though that's probably the smallest it can get without sacrificing functionality) , it takes 4 batteries and I hear it has issues with the latest Jelly Bean. So whatever, for $10 I'll take what I can get.
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I think you're referring to this Logitech keyboard I posted above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKQJtNjl0E
I haven't had any issues with it. I wouldn't necessarily call it bulky but yea, it's nowhere close to as compact as the Exact keyboard. I was willing to sacrifice a little size for typing comfort though. Got it for $16 on an Ebay auction.
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I think you're referring to this Logitech keyboard I posted above.[/url]
I haven't had any issues with it. I wouldn't necessarily call it bulky but yea, it's nowhere close to as compact as the Exact keyboard. I was willing to sacrifice a little size for typing comfort though. Got it for $16 on an Ebay auction.
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Nice, that's a steal at $16 and it looks like it actually functions as a great keyboard. I personally love Logitech products, I haven't seen much negative about that keyboard (aside from the batteries imo, is it 4 AAA? Some reviews said only 2 but some say 4)and I'd probably buy it also if I could find it for around that price. Bulkys not the word so much as not as convenient relative to the Exact.. I originally wrote too big for a 7 inch tablet, carrying it around and everything, though it really needs to be that big for functionality but yea, if you need to actually write some lengthy stuff on the go then it's worth the trade off.
I'm considering picking up a 32GB Black Note 10.1 2014 today using Best Buy's Cyber Monday deal. I currently have an iPad 3 and a Nook HD+ 32GB with CM10.2. Since switching from an iPhone 5 to a Galaxy S4, the iPad 3 pretty much sits on my nightstand and I use the HD+ for everything. For the price, it's a nice device, but it can be frustratingly slow as a daily use device.
I've been hoping for the Nexus 10 2 to be released, but I'm becoming increasingly doubtful that's going to happen anytime soon. That's where the Note 10.1 comes in...it's basically the same display as the Nexus 10 (at least in terms of size and resolution) and has great hardware specs. $500 is a little steep for an Android tablet in my opinion, but I should be able to get $250-350 for my iPad 3 which really knocks down the incremental cost to me.
I'm not a huge fan of Touch Wiz vs. the stock Android experience, but it's not enough to push me away from a device. I am, however, concerned about the reports of lag on what should be one of the fastest devices on the market. I have zero interest in installing a custom ROM on my next tablet as I've already spent too much time dealing with the various quirks of custom ROMs going on previous tablets (Nook Color, Touchpad, and now Nook HD+). I want a rock solid, smooth stock experience. I've seen some folks say that with all the patches applied, the lag is basically gone. It's also worth mentioning that I immediately install Nova Launcher Prime as my launcher, so I wouldn't be using the stock launcher.
Also, I've read that the power port on this thing is on the bottom when in landscape orientation?! How does that work with something like the Poetic Slimline case? I have the Poetic for my HD+ (and the Apple Smart Cover for my iPad) and pretty much keep them standing up while they're plugged in.
Anyway, the owner reviews I've seen everywhere (Amazon, Best Buy, etc.) are quite positive, but I wanted to check in with this community to ask for real-life opinions, the good and the bad, before pulling the trigger.
Thanks!
UPDATE: I just pulled the trigger. I'll pick it up on the way home tonight and post my impressions once I get it set up to my tastes.
I pulled trigger last saturday. Been thinking about ipad air, note 10.1, nexus 10 2 for long long time, and I really really love the note!
I was worried about bloat wares and lag as well as galaxy s4 owner I experience both in gs4. However, I don't have any issue with neither in note 10.1. Yes there r few bloat wares but not as much as gs 4 and most are quiet useful. altho I only used it for 3 days I never had issue with lag or stuttering. Also handwriting recognition speed and accuracy is Just off the chart. In more of type but now I tend to write with Stylus all the time.
my tablet exp include ipad 2/4, nexus 7 2012. But this is best tablet So far.
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I've got the 32GB white version, and let me tell you, this thing flies through everything I throw at it. I have had 3 games open in the background while watching YouTube in multiview along with the S-Note app and browsing the internet and there was no lag. The 8-core processor and 3 gigs of ram destroy everything I throw at. When you first power it up, you'll be hit with 3 updates that will improve stability, performance and also add the Android 4.3 multiuser feature. Trust me, you won't regret getting this tablet, especially with its added S-pen functionality. I no longer have to use paper for anything! I'm using the stock touchwiz launcher, but of course you can install another one. And in landscape mode the power button is at the top. I'm using this case for mine:
http://www.amazon.com/MoKo-Samsung-...qid=1386018274&sr=8-2&keywords=note+2014+case
NOTE: As of now not many games in the play store have been optimized to take advantage of the power of this device. Games run smoothly, just not a full graphics or full resolution on some games. Something to keep in mind if you play a lot of games.
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And in landscape mode the power button is at the top. I'm using this case for mine:
http://www.amazon.com/MoKo-Samsung-...qid=1386018274&sr=8-2&keywords=note+2014+case
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Thanks for the info, both of you. As for my concern, it's the placement of the power charging port that concerns me, not the power button. Since it's on the bottom in landscape orientation, doesn't that preclude having the tablet propped up on a stand like in the main picture for that case and plugged in at the same time?
I am also thinking of buying 32GB Black Note 10.1 2014. To only things which makes me to hesitate is the chrome trim along the edges. Isn't that part so much prone to scratches? Is that plastic or aluminium? Won't the chrome paint peel off as time passes?
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I am also thinking of buying 32GB Black Note 10.1 2014. To only things which makes me to hesitate is the chrome trim along the edges. Isn't that part so much prone to scratches? Is that plastic or aluminium? Won't the chrome paint peel off as time passes?
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The sides are plastic, I would think in a case would be fine, but without a case and tossed around it might damage with hard use. Wished they would have used aluminum like Apple for the price they charge but that shows scratches over time but only dents if dropped like the one my daughter uses
I've had a 32GB version for around 3 weeks and am really pleased with it. Replaced Touchwiz with Apex launcher immediately and have had a couple of launcher crashes but nothing major - considering going to Nova as people speak highly of it.
Lag: it's a totally subjective topic but I don't notice it at all. Certainly nothing that irritates me. Not a big gamer however.
The power socket is on the 'bottom' but either buy an angled USB cable or use the device upside down.
Great advantages are: (1) the handwriting recognition is fantastic - I have reasonably good cursive writing and it rarely makes a mistake (2) multi-window for notes (LectureNotes in my case) and email (Touchdown) or for email and browser (Chrome).
Most of the Samsung bloatware is a waste of space, including the various pop-ups you can invoke with the s-pen. My wife is, however, still mystified about how I keep changing the TV channel without touching the remote (Watchon). Installing a different launcher stops the intensely annoying 'My Magazine' from popping up.
I'd like to remove this Samsung stuff but I'm not going to root until the current rash of firmware updates dries up.Once rooted I can make more apps available in multi-window (very pleased that TD and LN worked straight away)
My one niggle is the position of the home/menu/back buttons ('bottom' centre in landscape mode). On my old Tab 8.9 the soft buttons were bottom left which made them much easier to access with a thumb. I usually hold the Note upside down in landscape mode as having the buttons top centre is easier IMHO. In portrait mode they are under my right thumb which is perfect for me
The Poetic case has all the right cutouts for the Note but the hinge is on the 'bottom' edge not the top. If you want to use it the right way up in landscape mode you will be folding the cover towards you and under rather than over the top and back. If you want to prop the Note at a shallow angle for typing it will be 'upside down' but that's not a problem for me. The reason is presumably to stop the magnetic clasp on the case interfering with the home button. The 'wake on open'/'sleep on close' features of the case work perfectly and no interference with the digitizer so far.
Most annoyed that as a UK user I had to leave the country to buy a 32GB model and that the firmware updates reach us so slowly. Still Samsung's business model is all about encouraging you to dump your phone/tablet for the latest model rather than customer support (as I found out with the Tab 8.9) - buyer beware!
Well, I ended up returning it this morning. Overall it's a really nice piece of hardware, but there were a few things that bothered me about it:
1. This is purely personal, but I think a 10" tablet is bigger than what I'm wanting. Obviously I've had the iPad 3 for a while, but as I said, I've found myself using the Nook HD+ almost exclusively. As a result, the Note 10.1 felt HUGE in my hands for the way I use a tablet! I think I'm going to refine my search to include only 8-9" tablets now.
2. The placement of the hardware buttons was driving me crazy! When I held the device in landscape, it was really awkward to reach down for the buttons when I needed them, and when I held the device in portrait, I was constantly pressing either the Back or Menu buttons depending on how I held it. Additionally, when held in portrait, (intentional!) access to the buttons was even more awkward.
3. My concern about the placement of the USB charging port was legit. I basically have to lay the tablet flat to charge it, and that's pretty much the opposite of what I've always done with my previous tablets which were propped up in their stands/cases while charging.
4. Even after all the updates were applied, some services/apps disabled, and Nova Launcher installed as the default, it still seemed to lag a bit occasionally. In fact, a few times it became completely unresponsive for a number of seconds before I could resume usage. That definitely shouldn't happen on hardware of this caliber.
All in all, I couldn't keep a $500+ purchase with these concerns. I really wanted to because I thought that S Pen and the multi-window stuff was quite neat, but after sleeping on it I just did a factory reset and returned it.
I'll keep looking...in a perfect world I wish the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 hardware was matched to an AOSP ROM. Maybe that's what the Google Nexus 10 2 will be after all, or maybe someone else will fill that particular niche soon.
Thanks again for the info!
The Nexus 10 2 would feel to big too if the samsung did
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Go check out the LG GPad 8.3!
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Well, I ended up returning it this morning. Overall it's a really nice piece of hardware, but there were a few things that bothered me about it:
1. This is purely personal, but I think a 10" tablet is bigger than what I'm wanting. Obviously I've had the iPad 3 for a while, but as I said, I've found myself using the Nook HD+ almost exclusively. As a result, the Note 10.1 felt HUGE in my hands for the way I use a tablet! I think I'm going to refine my search to include only 8-9" tablets now.
2. The placement of the hardware buttons was driving me crazy! When I held the device in landscape, it was really awkward to reach down for the buttons when I needed them, and when I held the device in portrait, I was constantly pressing either the Back or Menu buttons depending on how I held it. Additionally, when held in portrait, (intentional!) access to the buttons was even more awkward.
3. My concern about the placement of the USB charging port was legit. I basically have to lay the tablet flat to charge it, and that's pretty much the opposite of what I've always done with my previous tablets which were propped up in their stands/cases while charging.
4. Even after all the updates were applied, some services/apps disabled, and Nova Launcher installed as the default, it still seemed to lag a bit occasionally. In fact, a few times it became completely unresponsive for a number of seconds before I could resume usage. That definitely shouldn't happen on hardware of this caliber.
All in all, I couldn't keep a $500+ purchase with these concerns. I really wanted to because I thought that S Pen and the multi-window stuff was quite neat, but after sleeping on it I just did a factory reset and returned it.
I'll keep looking...in a perfect world I wish the Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 hardware was matched to an AOSP ROM. Maybe that's what the Google Nexus 10 2 will be after all, or maybe someone else will fill that particular niche soon.
Thanks again for the info!
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Also consider samsung galaxy note 8inch
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Also consider samsung galaxy note 8inch
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Or even the Samsung Galaxy Tab 8 if the Note prices are too steep for you. Out of all the Tab models, the 8 is the only one that has > 1GB RAM in it, so it's the only Tab model I would ever consider. I messed with the Tab 8 at Costco -- seemed like a really nice tablet, and I was tempted by the size myself.
I ended up with the Note 10.1 2014 though and very satisfied.
Thanks. Yeah, if the Nexus 10 2 is 10", you're correct that it'll feel too bulky, but the recent rumors are that it may be in the 8-9" range (probably with a designation change as well). As for the Galaxy Note 8, that's a possibility, but I'd prefer something with a higher resolution and slightly larger screen size. The LG looks interesting for sure! I'll check that out.
The LG would be your best bet , but high price to pay compared to say the Nexus 7
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reubenskelly1992 said:
The LG would be your best bet , but high price to pay compared to say the Nexus 7
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Unless you bought it on black Friday from newegg for $279-$30 coupon code which came out to $249
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There was a case I saw a long time ago that seemed like it could be nice to have. As of today I started craving it and want to buy it.
It is case with a swivel hand strap on the back. This would allow for comfortable holding while drawing or carrying around. Allowing for working in Landscape or Portrait without any hand discomfort.
I had put the case on a wish list on Amazon, but I have since deleted it. Does anyone know of one? I am not having any luck finding on today.
Dumaru said:
There was a case I saw a long time ago that seemed like it could be nice to have. As of today I started craving it and want to buy it.
It is case with a swivel hand strap on the back. This would allow for comfortable holding while drawing or carrying around. Allowing for working in Landscape or Portrait without any hand discomfort.
I had put the case on a wish list on Amazon, but I have since deleted it. Does anyone know of one? I am not having any luck finding on today.
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I recently switched from a Note 10.1 to a Windows tablet, but also use it for drawing. Currently I am using a standard leather case with something called "hand-e-holder" attached. I got mine on Ebay, but Amazon sells it also. There is a pad(sort of like velcro) that attaches to the case or tablet. The handle then sticks to the pad, so the handle can be removed it needed. Whats also good is that it is very comfortable, and does not freely rotate when trying to draw.
I looked into a couple of other "handles" that either stick on or wrap around the device, but I think will fit your needs the best. When searching Amazon for the Hand-e-holder, if you look at the related products you'll find similar handles.
I tried cases that rotate but there's no resistance to it tends to rotate in every direction when trying to draw.
Hope that helps. Us artists, got to stick together.
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I recently switched from a Note 10.1 to a Windows tablet, but also use it for drawing. Currently I am using a standard leather case with something called "hand-e-holder" attached. I got mine on Ebay, but Amazon sells it also. There is a pad(sort of like velcro) that attaches to the case or tablet. The handle then sticks to the pad, so the handle can be removed it needed. Whats also good is that it is very comfortable, and does not freely rotate when trying to draw.
I looked into a couple of other "handles" that either stick on or wrap around the device, but I think will fit your needs the best. When searching Amazon for the Hand-e-holder, if you look at the related products you'll find similar handles.
I tried cases that rotate but there's no resistance to it tends to rotate in every direction when trying to draw.
Hope that helps. Us artists, got to stick together.
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Yeah, I have seen those around. Guess that is what I shall end up going with Thanks!
I was wanting to get a Windows Surface Pro 2. I think having a drawing tablet you can ACTUALLY install Photoshop on... man... would be nice. But the setup is not quite in my budget right now heh.
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Yeah, I have seen those around. Guess that is what I shall end up going with Thanks!
I was wanting to get a Windows Surface Pro 2. I think having a drawing tablet you can ACTUALLY install Photoshop on... man... would be nice. But the setup is not quite in my budget right now heh.
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I went with a manufacturer refurbished Samsung Ativ 700T. It has the same specs as the Surface Pro 2, but is lighter, does not get as hot, a bit better battery life, and a 12" screen. That extra 2" makes a difference when using Photoshop with palettes. I got mine from an online retailer off off Ebay for $600. I use a wacom pen and it works the same as it would with the standard drawing tablet.
Just for preformance reference, I use Photoshop CS6 (64bit)on it. My files are around 80mb, with around 30-50 layers, and a dpi of 300. No real lag unless using a large brush. If you a fast sketcher you might get some lag, but at that sketch stage my image rez is usually at 72dpi so I don't have an issue.
If you have any specific question about my setup don't be afraid to ask. I'm always willing to help out a fellow artist. I did a lot of research on all the competing tablets. Plus I had the same decisions to make when purchasing mine.
On a side note, the best painting apps for Android are, Layerpaint HD, Sketchbook Pro, and Infinite Painter(note edition). LayerPaint HD is probably my favorite because of the tool set and the interface is the most similar to Photoshop. Sketchbook Pro and Infinite Painter have brushes that simulate actual brushes more realistically. Clover Paint is also interesting. Its the only one where you can set up the interface with custom shortcuts(to brushes and such). Its not very intuitive though.
Also if you didn't know you can use a actual wacom pen (UP-801E) with the Note. The eraser functions as an eraser and some of the apps use the side switch. Plus because it is bigger it is easier to hold for long periods. The pen is discontinued but you can still find some on Ebay and other online retailers.
The new S4 is marketed as to use with a keyboard, preferably the original samsung keyboard cover. In multiple reviews I've read you can use this cover in only one position. What I would like to know is if you can flip the keyboard completely over (360 degrees) as I would do intuitively when using it as a drawing block using the S Pen.
Wondering that too, I've pre-ordered so will get the keyboard cover free a few weeks after I get the device, so potentially it'll be unprotected during that time. I'll probably buy a case from Amazon (seen one for around £6) to see me through.
From what I saw in store, yes the keyboard can flip over behind the device.
Though I did find this interesting on the Tab S3 the little 1/3 flap behind the tablet secured to the back side of the device automatically, pretty well to hold it in place if you flipped the keyboard over behind the screen. The S4 did not, and there was a little extra slop in the case because of this. Course it might be the security device holding it down but its just something I noticed.
Well, yes and no. It can but backwards. It would have been nice if it was able to fold back with the tablet's back against the keyboard but it actually flips over so that the keys are at the bottom and the tablet is at the top. I'm unsure if this does damage to the keys but its not optimal.
Silly question but...
why not just use the otg cable, plug in your logitech module, and use your logitech keyboard and mouse? For the rare times I need a keyboard, that's what I do. Then the tablet is still easily used as you always would, flip, landscape, etc.
just a thought.
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Silly question but...
why not just use the otg cable, plug in your logitech module, and use your logitech keyboard and mouse? For the rare times I need a keyboard, that's what I do. Then the tablet is still easily used as you always would, flip, landscape, etc.
just a thought.
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That is a silly question because many folks will use this as a traditional portable tablet as well as an occassional desktop machine. When you are out and about with your expensive tablet, you need a case to protect it from accidents, but this case also needs to be convenient. Leather wallet / folio cases are ideal for this, but (most) obviously don't feature a keyboard. Given how slippery this tablet is, with its all glass rear, I'm guessing that accidents may be relatively frequent!
So the OPs original question is pefectly valid. What is the likely durability of the keyboard when folded right over and sat on the users lap, for example, playing Pokemon on a bus? Perhaps, maybe, the keyboard case is an expensive gimmick and a standard leather wallet case would be a much better option (if such a thing actually exists yet)? The real leather case on my Galaxy NotePro 12.2 has served me extremely well over the years.
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That is a silly question because many folks will use this as a traditional portable tablet as well as an occassional desktop machine. When you are out and about with your expensive tablet, you need a case to protect it from accidents, but this case also needs to be convenient. Leather wallet / folio cases are ideal for this, but obviously don't feature a keyboard. Given how slippery this tablet is, with its all glass rear, I'm guessing that accidents may be relatively frequent!
So the OPs original question is pefectly valid. What is the likely durability of the keyboard when folded right over and sat on the users lap, for example, playing Pokemon on a bus? Perhaps, maybe, the keyboard case is an expensive gimmick and a standard leather wallet case would be a much better option (if such a thing actually exists yet)? The leather case on my Galaxy NotePro 12.2 has served me extremely well over the years.
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Who said the OP question wasn't valid? Who said not to use a case?
I'm merely suggesting an alternative for those of us who don't play "Pokemon on a bus", for example.
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Who said the OP question wasn't valid? Who said not to use a case?
I'm merely suggesting an alternative for those of us who don't play "Pokemon on a bus", for example.
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Personally, I never play Pokemon, however, my daughter does on her commute to work... and the Tab S4 is her tablet Cables and peripherals are totally impractical in this particular usage case. Everyone has different requirements. Anyway, her "free" keyboard case has just been delivered today, so I'll check it out tonight.
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Everyone has different requirements. .
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thank you for making my point.
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thank you for making my point.
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You are welcome.
However, this is an interesting point for discussion, as to how folk plan to make use of their new investment. From what I can work out from my daughter, at home it will be docked into a Cable Matters USB-C hub and used to stream movies over an Ethernet LAN connection, to her HDMI TV, amongst numerous other things. At work, she will use it as a desktop with the keyboard case and a bluetooth mouse. I've already described her commute.
If it were mine, I'd be using it as a passenger navigation device, along with AlpineQuest and a full set of OSGB maps, which is what I currently do with my aging NotePro.
Now that I've received the keyboard case I can confirm that the case can be flipped in such a way that the keyboard faces up, into the rear of the case when using as a traditional tablet. In this mode, the footprint of the tablet extends along a long edge by 38mm, which is due to the way the "fold" works.
Alternatively, it can be flipped with the keyboard facing down, which only extends the footprint by 10mm along the same edge.
First impressions are that it adds a fair bit of weight to the tablet, mainly due to good build quality. The case is pretty solid, but not padded, so it may not be great at absorbing shocks, say from a drop! The keyboard is compact, but has a reasonable feel. Note, that the pen is essential for using the keyboard with DeX as there is no trackpad.
Is it worth the RRP? Err, no, however, as a pre-order "freebe", I've got no grounds to complain.