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[Q] Stylus? Worth it?

I've been looking into getting a stylus? What are your thoughts? Do all of them have round blunt ends? this is the one I was looking at...
http://www.wacom.com/en/Products/BambooStylus.aspx

Yes, they all have round blunt ends. Some are better than others but there's really nothing you can do about it with a capacitive screen.
You are never going to get anywhere near the accuracy you would get with an active digitizer. Also, you'll never have any sort of pressure sensitivity.
so personally, I don't think it's worth it but I'm probably not the best person to give you advice. I am user of windows tablets with active digitizers(wacom and n-trig) so I will never have any respect for capacitive styli. then again, they're pretty cheap and they do work to some extent so I guess you can't really lose.
I'll stick with my fujitsu t5010 for now and I'll probably get a fujitsu q550, motion computing cl900 or asus ep121 soon. If I really wanted to take notes with an android tablet, I'd get the htc flyer(it has an n-trig digitizer) but the note taking software for android is really quite pathetic compared to something like one note for windows.
don't get me wrong here. I'm a huge fan of android. I actually write android tablet apps for a living. there's a lot of things android tablets do well but note taking is not one of those things.

Just make sure you get one with rubber tip and not foam.

smaskell said:
you'll never have any sort of pressure sensitivity.
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The HTC Flyer + stylus has pressure sensitivity. I have both these tablets and I like them both, but the Flyer is my favorite.

MountainX said:
The HTC Flyer + stylus has pressure sensitivity. I have both these tablets and I like them both, but the Flyer is my favorite.
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That's because the flyer has a n-trig active digitizer. The galaxy tab, however, certainly does not.

I use a Targus stylus from time to time on my XOOM and my Galaxy Tab 7.
The primary advantage for me is fingerprint reduction. Its nice to clean the screen and have it stay clean for a while. Try eating Pizza and poking your tablet's screen with your finger!
Accuracy is better with a stylus, however in terms of speed, fingers are generally faster.

Digital Man said:
I use a Targus stylus from time to time on my XOOM and my Galaxy Tab 7.
The primary advantage for me is fingerprint reduction. Its nice to clean the screen and have it stay clean for a while. Try eating Pizza and poking your tablet's screen with your finger!
Accuracy is better with a stylus, however in terms of speed, fingers are generally faster.
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That's a good idea. I will look into that.

I love my SGP Stylus. Highly recommend it, got it on Amazon with prime (and it's white)
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good stylus
I got myself a few of these and they work wonders.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fashion-stylus-pen-for-iphone-ipad-red-81284
Cheap, great build quality and man do they work good...

discord2k said:
I got myself a few of these and they work wonders.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fashion-stylus-pen-for-iphone-ipad-red-81284
Cheap, great build quality and man do they work good...
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OK, I just bought two on your recommendation... (hope you aren't a spamer)

haha... Not a spammer. Don't worry.
All my friends have bought tablets in the last few weeks and I got em all some of these and they all use them. Even when they pinch to zoom they use one finger on the screen and the stylus.
You'll like it. It's very precise and matches the build quality of the targus one.

You can make a good stylus out of an aluminum pen or hollow aluminum tube (from a telescopic mirror or an antenna) and some conductive foam squeezed into the end. there are tutorials on youtube. You should be able to get the foam from a computer supply shop or you can order it for cheap on ebay

the Dagi Stylus P501 looks like the one to get
find them on ebay
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssLu0z7SGgc

picked up an official Samsung stylus.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/ET-S100CBEGSTA

I just bought a 2 pack for 5 free shipping. So, yeah, it's worth it even if I use them once.

I have the samsung stylus in hand. Super smooth. Makes getting around the swype keyboard a breeze. I might be more accurate with it than my finger.
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Stylus is really great for GT

I'm statimg the obvious here since the first generation of tablets(way before the ipad) were by default stylus-dependent devices.
But because of the nature of how one uses the tablet, usually on your laps on a sofa, or on a coffee table at home or a cafe, or in one hand reading an ebook, or even on the go walking around, it's much easier to use a stylus to tap with, rather than having to stick out your finger like a baby continuous reaching out for stuff. Unlike a phone which is in your hand so your thumb does all the work or because of the small screen you always hold close, the tablet is always a distance away, so the extended length provided by the stylus makes it that much more comfortable. Not to mention you also avoid finger marks on your screen!
I've had a stylus since last winter when I used it for glove-on solutions with my nexus one. But I found it rather cumbersome for a phone, the small screen spade leaving no margin of error. So since spring it was just siting on my desk without any good use, but now with the new GT I'd it's had a second life, and I carry it all around!
Anyone else found the stylus a great companion to tablets? Any recommendations on a specific stylus? (any one tried the ocrucial samsung one?)

see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147423

aptmowe said:
see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147423
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Ah, thanks for the link. Wish I had seen that 3 dollar stylus beforehand!

Anyone found a decent stylus?

Is anyone using a stylus with the A100? There are times I would prefer writing or tapping things out with a stylus instead of my finger.
I tried this stylus because it actually claimed to work with the Iconia Tab when I bought. But it was unusable and I sent it back. (I could pretty much get a lighter touch and more accuracy with my fist.)
So is it the nature of the screen that a stylus won't work well? Or did I just pick a bad stylus?

RangerJay said:
So is it the nature of the screen that a stylus won't work well? Or did I just pick a bad stylus?
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My experience with two different styluses (neither of them is your model) is that they are:
1) - inaccurate - impossible to hit a precise point on the screen.
2) - choppy - cannot draw a continuous straight line in a drawing program.
So for me, a stylus is a complete waste of money. $40 in my case

Personally, I think it's the screen.
I bought a $10 stylus, and it sucked on it.
Then I helped fund the "Cosmonaut" stylus on Kickstarted, so I got one of those for free, and it is absolutely incredible, but it doesn't work on the A100. It is choppy when I draw, like it isn't always conducting.
But when I use it on my phone, or on my sister's iPad, it works flawlessly.
That's why I think it is the screen.

anyone find a working one?
Hi all curious if anyone found a working stylus? I use adobe touch and a working stylus would make my life tons easier? Can anyone confirm if the screen is the real issue? Thanks!

I purchased the Acer stylus official, I must say it is quite accurate, and with the right pressure can make almost a straight line. But the screen is a bit 'too sensitive, should be calibrated.

RangerJay said:
Is anyone using a stylus with the A100? There are times I would prefer writing or tapping things out with a stylus instead of my finger.
I tried this stylus because it actually claimed to work with the Iconia Tab when I bought. But it was unusable and I sent it back. (I could pretty much get a lighter touch and more accuracy with my fist.)
So is it the nature of the screen that a stylus won't work well? Or did I just pick a bad stylus?
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I haven't used many. Most look very bulbous and are enough money that I haven't been willing to try one. The only Stylus I have purchased are the cheap little ones for the Nintendo DS. I payed $4 for a 3 pack of them. They are TINY, but they telescope so you can have one in your change pocket and forget its even there. They have a fine tip but not all that soft. what I like is I can use it to pin-point click small buttons and links easily with them. For less then $1.50 each I like them allot.
I use a cheap Inland Bluetooth mouse at home. It was less then $15 at Fry's and works fine with our device. It makes a nice sort of a remote when watching movies on the TV and the mouse pointer works great for controlling the interface. The scroll wheel works wonders to navigate lists. It also has yet to use up the first pair of AAA batteries I put in it a few weeks ago.

NoSudo said:
I haven't used many. Most look very bulbous and are enough money that I haven't been willing to try one. The only Stylus I have purchased are the cheap little ones for the Nintendo DS. I payed $4 for a 3 pack of them. They are TINY, but they telescope so you can have one in your change pocket and forget its even there. They have a fine tip but not all that soft. what I like is I can use it to pin-point click small buttons and links easily with them. For less then $1.50 each I like them allot.
I use a cheap Inland Bluetooth mouse at home. It was less then $15 at Fry's and works fine with our device. It makes a nice sort of a remote when watching movies on the TV and the mouse pointer works great for controlling the interface. The scroll wheel works wonders to navigate lists. It also has yet to use up the first pair of AAA batteries I put in it a few weeks ago.
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Hi sudo
Do the styli from the 3ds actually work with the A100 then? I tried my DS lite styli but they didn't work at all, didn't think they would, I sld my 3DS a long time ago so can try with one of them at the moment
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I bought one at the source for 10$ works great on all my devices
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Hi all,
I'd like to start a bit of a revival in this thread as I'm really craving a decent stylus right now, for a long time I was an expensive fountain pen and notebook guy, still am for some things, but since ICS and me being used to my tablet on my person it's so useful, but I can only type so quickly on a touch screen that I miss shorthand.
Here is a link that surfaced for the iPad, it has a great gamut of styli, http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/10/2925937/best-stylus-ipad-review
I'm wondering what the cosmonaut is like with ICS and build.prop modifications, have you tried this mitch?

For writing consider Adonit Jot - it has some problems (skipping) but they are easy to fix (free replacement discs or conductive greas or... toothpaste) - you will find more on Asus Transformer forum, there is a guy from Adonit answering all questions too.

Magnesus said:
For writing consider Adonit Jot - it has some problems (skipping) but they are easy to fix (free replacement discs or conductive greas or... toothpaste) - you will find more on Asus Transformer forum, there is a guy from Adonit answering all questions too.
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Thanks for the tip, I've read that the adonit is the most precise by far, so perhaps this could be a good choice, I can buy them over here in the UK too
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[Q]Galaxy S 2 Stylus

what is the best stylus that is available for accurate writing and sketching?
-Is the Samsung Note stylus works with the galaxy S2?
Thank you.

The Note's pen will not work as it is not as stylus, it's a digitizer pen that uses a special system in the screen.
To be honest, and I have more experience with capacitive styli than probably 99.9% of people on here, the S2 is too small to really give you good accuracy with any stylus that is designed for normal capacitive screens. A stylus is even pretty useless for notes and sketching on my 7-inch Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, and even on my iPad I rely heavily on apps that get around the inherent inaccuracy of capacitive styli with apps that have great zoom or magnification options. Navigating menus etc as an extension of your finger is one thing, but sketching and note taking is something completely different.
If you do decide to get one, stay far far away from those generic brands you find on eBay etc, and far away even from styli from Belkin, Griffin etc that you normally find in electronics stores. The more expensive styli ($20-30 range US) are in a whole other class when it comes to both accuracy and durability. I would suggest a stylus that doesn't look huge next to the S2, which eliminates some of the bigger ones out there that are big to emulate permanent markers. Both the Architect Stylus and Wacom Stylus are great and small. I have both, and they're a bit more sanely sized next to the S2 than e.g. the Cosmonaut, AluPen, Maglus etc. You might however want to look at the Jot stylus first. For accuracy on a small screen, it's probably your best bet, though the disc type tip is not to everyone's taste

Thank you very much you I think i will go with the JOT PRO.

you guys really want to see this.
i know the screen of galaxy is too small when comparing to tab,but that guy is really amazing [video is a part of avdt of stylus]

Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it

question about the stylus used in the above video
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Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it
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Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.

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Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.
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That's a Just Mobile AluPen. Won't work with drawing tablets, completely different technology

Had DAGi Stylus P101 model lying around and tried it since it's winter... have to say it works just fine swiping, scrolling and everything else on my SGS2.

does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?

Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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OP asked the same question....

Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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Why don't you try it and see if it works... just go to nearby store and have a blast And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...

Fevves said:
And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...
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Not that they would work, but they are sold separately. Replacements for Notes, obviously

I ordered a cheap $1 Stylus off ebay some time ago, still waiting for it to arrive. While it may not be as accurate as the higher class ones, I don't really need it that bad to begin with (I've come to accept that taking notes on my SGS2 isn't a viable option).

Pen?

I was wondering if could use a preassure pen on the N7.2 and would any preasure sensitive pen work the same or do they differ?

bogii4 said:
I was wondering if could use a pressure pen on the N7.2 and would any preasure sensitive pen work the same or do they differ?
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Not quite sure what you mean by a "pressure pen", but the Nexus 7 screen is capacitance, not pressure. If you touch it with a hard, non-conductive object, nothing will happen. The stylus type pens work because they can conduct your fingers to the surface of the tablet (simplified explanation, don't flame me!). You can also try to operate the tablet with gloves on to see that the "contact" of your fingers is necessary to get the touchscreen to operate.

What I meant was for drawing a stulis like from a note 8?
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No, the S-Pen is unique and a Samsung only accessory. Too bad, it looks useful but I rather stick with Nexus.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6893/samsung-galaxy-note-80-review/4

bogii4 said:
What I meant was for drawing a stulis like from a note 8?
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The N7 doesn't have the hardware to support pens like the note 8 does. You won't get any of the pressure sensitivity that they/wacom pens get.
The only pens you can use with the N7 are going to be the capacitive touch pens, which just emulate your finger.

squeakyl said:
The N7 doesn't have the hardware to support pens like the note 8 does. You won't get any of the pressure sensitivity that they/wacom pens get.
The only pens you can use with the N7 are going to be the capacitive touch pens, which just emulate your finger.
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Sadly this is true. The pressure sensitivity on the Note is impressive for what it is. One day they'll have something out for other tablets, but for now, stick to changing the stroke width.

sen-cha said:
Sadly this is true. The pressure sensitivity on the Note is impressive for what it is. One day they'll have something out for other tablets, but for now, stick to changing the stroke width.
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Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by preassuring more it becomes bigger

i hve no idea

bogii4 said:
Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by preassuring more it becomes bigger
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You can sort of guess the amount of pressure being applied by a finger based on the size of the touch (if you lightly touch it's small, if you press hard it's bigger as your finger squashes against the screen). So it is, sort of, touch sensitive, but if you used a stylus with a non-soft end it won't detect an increase in pressure.

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Got this today and um.. when i use Photoshop if i set to a big brush size and pressure a little it,it comes small dot/line by pressuring more it becomes bigger
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Pressure sensitivity works beautifully in Photoshop Touch with a Wacom stylus (or S-Pen) on my Note 10.1.
Conversely, finger (or capacitive stylus) pressure in PS Touch on my N7 makes no difference. Not even a little bit. As already posted by others, the N7 just doesn't have the technology to do what you're asking.

Yeah, The N7 (and most other Android devices) don't have the hardware necessary for pressure sensitivity. If that's important to you, look in the direction of the Galaxy Note line of devices, or anything that advertises Wacom digitizer support. They exist, but are far and few between. This is one in particular that comes to mind, albeit with a hefty $1500-1600 price tag.
On a somewhat related note, the Adonit Jot Pro stylus works beautifully on the N7 (among any other capacitive touchscreen), so while it may not be pressure sensitive, it's pretty good for rough sketches or handwriting. If you're looking for a fine point stylus, look no further. One thing to mention though, is the sensitivity wears off after a couple weeks. Remove the plastic tip and put on very tiny bit of conductive thermal paste (think Arctic Silver 5) on the tip, then replace the plastic tip again. It's smooth sailing from there.

Its been almost a month I have with my N7(2013) and its working really very fine...in the beginning it had some issues in GPS...I also thought to use of a S-pen with it but not sure about the touch screen compatibility..if someone has tried to use something like then please do update with the reviews....

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Its been almost a month I have with my N7(2013) and its working really very fine...in the beginning it had some issues in GPS...I also thought to use of a S-pen with it but not sure about the touch screen compatibility..if someone has tried to use something like then please do update with the reviews....
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Have you read the rest of the thread? No, the S-Pen will not work. It's not just about the pen. Devices that use digitizer pens have an extra layer on the screen that allows the pens to do their magic. That layer is simply non-existent on the nexus 7.

This is why the note 8 costs more....

I've got a Wacom bamboo pocket and have to say that using my fingers works much better. Are all stylus ' like that or are there better ones?
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I have a few different rubber tipped stylists and they do not work half as good as the micro fiber mesh tipped ones do.

Where can I get those?
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Yeah, The N7 (and most other Android devices) don't have the hardware necessary for pressure sensitivity. If that's important to you, look in the direction of the Galaxy Note line of devices, or anything that advertises Wacom digitizer support. They exist, but are far and few between. This is one in particular that comes to mind, albeit with a hefty $1500-1600 price tag.
On a somewhat related note, the Adonit Jot Pro stylus works beautifully on the N7 (among any other capacitive touchscreen), so while it may not be pressure sensitive, it's pretty good for rough sketches or handwriting. If you're looking for a fine point stylus, look no further. One thing to mention though, is the sensitivity wears off after a couple weeks. Remove the plastic tip and put on very tiny bit of conductive thermal paste (think Arctic Silver 5) on the tip, then replace the plastic tip again. It's smooth sailing from there.
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It's not necessarily the android device that needs the hardware - in Wacom tablets (as in bamboo, intuos etc., not Android tablets) the pressure sensitivity comes from the pen itself, not the tablet surface. While there's nothing on the market at the moment (?) that doesn't mean there never can be for the likes of the N7, where the pen would have the pressure sensitive hardware and then the tablet would just require the necessary hardware.

Adonit now sells the Jot Script Fine Point stylus. However, this only works with iPhone for now and kinda expensive.
I sold my Note 8.0 because I am getting the N7 LTE (if I can find one in Best Buy!) and planning to get this. Best of both world: pure Android AND stylus that is accurate.

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Adonit now sells the Jot Script Fine Point stylus. However, this only works with iPhone for now and kinda expensive.
I sold my Note 8.0 because I am getting the N7 LTE (if I can find one in Best Buy!) and planning to get this. Best of both world: pure Android AND stylus that is accurate.
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These look great, but the lack of Android support right out of the gate really has me sour on Evernote. I just don't think there is any excuse for releasing something like this as ios only. Unless they are purposely trying to alienate Android users. Not that I'm saying that's what they are doing, but it was a pretty stupid business decision regardless.
I am hoping it will eventually be usable on Android, but I haven't seen a single mention of future Android support.
Boo to you, Evernote.