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Hello all, First, I searched the forums for my answer with no such luck, that being said if Im repeating a question thats been asked I apologize. I have a problem with keeping android stable. I have flashed with different versions of windows several times all with success. I do however, prefer the android system, I find that it runs much better, faster and has better perks. Everytime I flash following the original how to, I run in to a couple similar problems.
The first is when I hit the power (not hold the power) the back light cuts off and the keyguard enables, the screen goes dark all as it should. Depending on the time ( the longer it is the worse it is) when I hit the power key to revive my phone, I often get a white screen, then it waits , then it goes dim, Sometimes If I hit the power button several times it eventually comes back to the key guard option, but others I have to remove the battery and reboot. This is the major problem, as I cant use my phone when I need it. This problem seems to get worse the farther it gets away from the flash date, e.g..,, after a brand new flash it works pretty good and then it goes downhill from there.
Second, it seems to lock up when I let it charge overnight, not always (but most of the time) I get up, click the power button to revive the phone and I have a white screen before me that is frozen solid. This like the previous problem seems to be linked to the distance from the last flash.
I hope that its something Im doing wrong, as Im currently using wmobile 6.5 and since Ive had a taste of the droid os, my wm phone is just disappointing. And as I was unsuccessful in finding a post that adequately describes my problem ,Im hoping that there is a way around this .
I have tried, Incubus Superfroyo, Wrym warm donut, and Cyanogens build. Im sure Ive tried others, they just escape me, I was re-flashing daily until I went back to windows. I truly hope someone out there has encountered what I have and has a solution. thank you all for what you do, these forums have been extremely valuable and helpful.
Sounds like you have the wrong panel type selected. Is it set to auto? if it is, try setting it to 2 instead. That cleared up the problem for me.
Tried all panels all have the same problem.
Well thanks for all the many replies. I give Ive tried everything on this site and m android is still really glitchy. Guess it will be windows until I get perhaps a phone capable of running android smoothly.
What kind of phone do you have?
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do you have an SD card you can try to boot from and share your settings?
What we need to know is which kernel you're using, or an image of the kernel you currently have. Also, we need to know which radio version you're using, as this can have detremental effects on stability as well.
Personally, I have been using radio version 1.70.19.09, which seems to be the most stable with kernel .25 IMHO.
I have also "personalized" ThoughtlessKyle's "Fat-Free Froyo", adding/removing apps that I need or don't use respectively (navigation, QQPlayer, Pandora, etc.).
Currently, I think I might be one of the only people not experiencing any issues with this phone running Android 2.2.1. I do get the occasional "hang" (I wait for it to finish what it's doing instead of force close), but that usually has something to do with network coverage or an app requesting something from an unopened port.
Old phone, new OS and runs smooth as could be expected.
Next for me will be the HTC HD2 (if I get one at the right price, the tilt was free)...
I know, I know that MANY PEOPLE THINK OF THE WAKE UP WHITE JIBBERISH SCREEN as NEVER WORKING.
PoXFreak said:
What we need to know is which kernel you're using, or an image of the kernel you currently have. Also, we need to know which radio version you're using, as this can have detremental effects on stability as well.
Personally, I have been using radio version 1.70.19.09, which seems to be the most stable with kernel .25 IMHO.
I have also "personalized" ThoughtlessKyle's "Fat-Free Froyo", adding/removing apps that I need or don't use respectively (navigation, QQPlayer, Pandora, etc.).
Currently, I think I might be one of the only people not experiencing any issues with this phone running Android 2.2.1. I do get the occasional "hang" (I wait for it to finish what it's doing instead of force close), but that usually has something to do with network coverage or an app requesting something from an unopened port.
Old phone, new OS and runs smooth as could be expected.
Next for me will be the HTC HD2 (if I get one at the right price, the tilt was free)...
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Ill try that combination and post my results. The latest I tried was
Scoot CyanogenMod 6.1.2 RLS6 with 2.6.32 still no joy, white screen crashes and hang ups. and it seems progressively worse the longer the rom is on the phone. To whomever asked what phone I have, its the at&t tilt II
srlebonv said:
Ill try that combination and post my results. The latest I tried was
Scoot CyanogenMod 6.1.2 RLS6 with 2.6.32 still no joy, white screen crashes and hang ups. and it seems progressively worse the longer the rom is on the phone. To whomever asked what phone I have, its the at&t tilt II
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I can't help you regarding panel selection but, please have Radio ROM version 1.65 or higher. And do give my fresh foryo a go with 2.6.25 kernel (everything is there in the thread on how to use it with 2.6.25 kernel).
the WHITE GLITCHY SCREEN IS THE PROBLEM WITH ANDROID DRIVERS. Install with Data on SD Card often causes lockups / force closes.
I am using panel type 1 and white glitchy screen stays for like half of a second and next moment I get a nice clean keylock screen. I don't know but its like 20th time I am explaining the problem related to LCD
Change Panel Type, Get a compatible Radio version (1.65.x or HIGHER)
You say that often install with data on the sd card causes lock ups and freezes. Can you explain further what you mean ?
dark_prince said:
I can't help you regarding panel selection but, please have Radio ROM version 1.65 or higher. And do give my fresh foryo a go with 2.6.25 kernel (everything is there in the thread on how to use it with 2.6.25 kernel).
the WHITE GLITCHY SCREEN IS THE PROBLEM WITH ANDROID DRIVERS. Install with Data on SD Card often causes lockups / force closes.
I am using panel type 1 and white glitchy screen stays for like half of a second and next moment I get a nice clean keylock screen. I don't know but its like 20th time I am explaining the problem related to LCD
Change Panel Type, Get a compatible Radio version (1.65.x or HIGHER)
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Ok, so I installed your version of froyo, the accompanying 2.6.25, the radio that you use. For the most part the hanging up is fixed. Now the second problem is still in place. Sometimes when Its been in hibernation(or whatever you would call when you hit the power button once ) when I attempt to refresh my phone (hitting the power button once) nothing happens, the green light is still blinking at the top but the screen stays blank, normally have to remove the battery and restart to get back to using the phone. Is this a sleep setting? or is this something Ive done wrong during the installation.
I first started using CM at 6.1.2. I'm now on CM7 RC2 and the same problem still occurs. I have no idea why this happens but I'll provide as much info as possible in the hope that someone will be able to figure it out.
My phone will work completely normally for several days after I initially flash CM6.1.2 or CM7. After a few days, a crash will occur where the screen stays on but the phone is completely unresponsive to all input -- touch, softkeys, or hardware keys. The power button stops functioning. After a while, the screen dims and the phone reboots. After the reboot the phone chugs along for a few hours and then the same thing happens. This crash almost always occurs in the Browser, in the middle of loading a page. I don't think it's a memory issue because I consistently have ~100MB free for RAM.
Also, I don't know if this is at all related, but I often notice just before the crash, the haptic feedback from the phone for keyboard presses and the softkeys becomes very erratic and inconsistent.
I can never get a logcat because the phone restarts after the crash. Has anyone else seen this or know what might be the problem? Again, this has been happening all the way since CM6.1.2 (and possibly earlier, I haven't tried anything earlier than 6.1.2 though). This is driving me pretty crazy, and I really love CM and would like to continue using it, but this is kind of a dealbreaker.
Did you wipe between flashing CM6 and CM7?
Yes, I always wipe data/cache/dalvik between flashing.
Have a VERY weird issue going on. I've been using Burnt Droid 1.4.2 by Netarchy since it came out. I decided to flash his new 4.3.4 CFS-NoHavs,noSBC, with static undervolt (i wanted to try and see if it was stable since I had success using undervolted kernels last year). I used proper procedure and cleared cache/dalvik-cache before flash. I downloaded the new Angry Birds from amazon and started playing it for a few minutes phone started lagging very bad, then had to restart. I said forget this; undervolt is probably causing this, and reverted back to the original 4.3.1-cfs-nohavs-nosbc which I never had a problem with(used proper procedure above to flash back kernel as well).
Now a day later at night, I decide to run my phone down because I'm trying to recalibrate my battery(I'm at less than 10% at this point). So I load up Wifi, turn on Pandora, and browse the internet. Not even 5 minutes into it, here's whats occuring in order:
1) Bad lag.. Pandora starts stuttering, so I hit the home button
2) HTC Sense restarts, It doesn't even force close, or at least it's not telling me
3) a Hot restart occurs a few moments later... (no white boot screen, just starts bootin from ROM screen)
4) At this point, sometimes its still laggy, sometimes it's fine. If it's laggy I must do a battery pull because It will keep looping to this point.
I can rinse and repeat this running pandora + browsing the web, and the same 4 steps above will happen within moments of eachother. I've been using this ROM since January with no major problems like this
A few side notes:
-I have Evo hardware 0002 (launch day evo)
-Rooted with Toast's original root method, eng .76 boot loader
-Newest radio/PRI/NV/Wimax
-My phone does not randomly reboot on me normally. Reboots only occur when following the above steps.
-I do not use Set CPU
Here is where I am very superstitious. I've been closely monitoring the "Boot looping + no Recovery Access" forum, and similar forums to this. Within the past few months I have tried out a few different CM7 nightlies. I have never flashed RC2 but I have flashed some after and before and tried those out for a while. I just hope my phone isn't starting a dying phase in relation to the problems people are having now.
Is there anything else recommended before I end up doing a full wipe and reflash the rom?
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Have a VERY weird issue going on. I've been using Burnt Droid 1.4.2 by Netarchy since it came out. I decided to flash his new 4.3.4 CFS-NoHavs,noSBC, with static undervolt (i wanted to try and see if it was stable since I had success using undervolted kernels last year). I used proper procedure and cleared cache/dalvik-cache before flash. I downloaded the new Angry Birds from amazon and started playing it for a few minutes phone started lagging very bad, then had to restart. I said forget this; undervolt is probably causing this, and reverted back to the original 4.3.1-cfs-nohavs-nosbc which I never had a problem with(used proper procedure above to flash back kernel as well).
Now a day later at night, I decide to run my phone down because I'm trying to recalibrate my battery(I'm at less than 10% at this point). So I load up Wifi, turn on Pandora, and browse the internet. Not even 5 minutes into it, here's whats occuring in order:
1) Bad lag.. Pandora starts stuttering, so I hit the home button
2) HTC Sense restarts, It doesn't even force close, or at least it's not telling me
3) a Hot restart occurs a few moments later... (no white boot screen, just starts bootin from ROM screen)
4) At this point, sometimes its still laggy, sometimes it's fine. If it's laggy I must do a battery pull because It will keep looping to this point.
I can rinse and repeat this running pandora + browsing the web, and the same 4 steps above will happen within moments of eachother. I've been using this ROM since January with no major problems like this
A few side notes:
-I have Evo hardware 0002 (launch day evo)
-Rooted with Toast's original root method, eng .76 boot loader
-Newest radio/PRI/NV/Wimax
-My phone does not randomly reboot on me normally. Reboots only occur when following the above steps.
-I do not use Set CPU
Here is where I am very superstitious. I've been closely monitoring the "Boot looping + no Recovery Access" forum, and similar forums to this. Within the past few months I have tried out a few different CM7 nightlies. I have never flashed RC2 but I have flashed some after and before and tried those out for a while. I just hope my phone isn't starting a dying phase in relation to the problems people are having now.
Is there anything else recommended before I end up doing a full wipe and reflash the rom?
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I'm not really sure what's causing your problem, and If i was in your situation, I'd most likely do a complete wipe, including calkulin's format all, and either restore a good nandroid, or reflash the rom from scratch.
That said, I don't believe CM to be 'dangerous' to run or anything like that. Yes, it is odd that an increasing number of people are reporting somewhat major issues, with boot looping the splash screen, and being permanently stuck there. However, that doesn't mean CM is the cause. It does seem to be a common denominator in the people that this has happened to, but there are soooo many other variables that come into play with something like this. There is no proof that CM caused it, but it does seem odd that everyone it happened to was running CM. Also, I'm sure there are thousands of CM users, and a select 8-10 people have reported these issues on here. That's a very low percentage, overall. With all that said, I myself won't be running CM in the near future, either until it's confirmed or denied that it has anything to do with these issues. I'll just be playing it safe, just in case.
I'm stock everything, no root or mods and it restarts at the 4g screen skips everything else...
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I think I will do the format all and completetly wipe it and reflash the rom from scratch. Thank you!
This problem only really happens after my phone has been on for days at a time. I have had this problem on the latest stable and latest nightly for CM7 (each one cleanly installed after a total wipe).
What happens is that most screens are replaced with entirely black ones. The most consistent example of this is the settings screen. The first Settings screen (which shows Display, Sound, etc) loads correctly. If I click on any of those, I just get a black screen. This will happen in other applications too, like Baconreader or Browser. Also, another connected issue is that the lockscreen won't animate once this problem starts. I can drag it down to unlock, but the rotary wheel won't move at all. If I drag to the right to load my custom app, the lockscreen won't go away and it will force my to pull the battery.
Has anyone else run into this problem? I'd just like to know I'm not alone. I'm not really expecting a bugfix, especially when I'm not even posting a Logcat.
Did you fix permissions?
midget tossing is habit...2010 midwest regional champion... hw 001
Saturn2K said:
This problem only really happens after my phone has been on for days at a time. I have had this problem on the latest stable and latest nightly for CM7 (each one cleanly installed after a total wipe).
What happens is that most screens are replaced with entirely black ones. The most consistent example of this is the settings screen. The first Settings screen (which shows Display, Sound, etc) loads correctly. If I click on any of those, I just get a black screen. This will happen in other applications too, like Baconreader or Browser. Also, another connected issue is that the lockscreen won't animate once this problem starts. I can drag it down to unlock, but the rotary wheel won't move at all. If I drag to the right to load my custom app, the lockscreen won't go away and it will force my to pull the battery.
Has anyone else run into this problem? I'd just like to know I'm not alone. I'm not really expecting a bugfix, especially when I'm not even posting a Logcat.
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I suffered this same thing today. Thankfully a full restart fixed out, but I would love to learn a real solution.
bootny said:
Did you fix permissions?
midget tossing is habit...2010 midwest regional champion... hw 001
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Next time it happens I will, I'm just afraid it will break Facebook/SMS integration like I've had happen before.
It's just so weird since it breaks everything. The lockscreen, the options, Pandora's station list, the browser, and it goes on and on. It's like there's some sort of display mode that gets screwed up.
dom085 said:
I suffered this same thing today. Thankfully a full restart fixed out, but I would love to learn a real solution.
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What version are you using. I'm going to try to install nightly 77 today after a fresh wipe.
I was seeing the same thing. Now I'm trying to figure out why my data speeds are so painfully slow on CM7 so I can't offer a fix. Flashing back to Warm to troubleshoot 3G.
I get these issues all the time no matter what kernel or nightly I'm running. It has forced me back to sense roms lol
Same problem here. I updated stable mod from stable mod. Reinstalled. Going on 4 days, no issues so far.
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I have the same exact issue. This never happens on a sense rom. I did some tweaks to my system over the past week and I haven't had to reboot since this past Saturday or Sunday. I thought I had fixed it!
Then...
My phone started doing it this morning after I turned on 4G at work, literally as I was writing this post it started doing it. I then turned off 4G.. and it instantly went away. Turning back on 4G and it isnt doing it right now. Now my phone is doing something weird with go sms pro... when I get a text and I respond via the pop up message.. once my text moves to a second line I dont see what I am typing anymore... and now it has progressed to where the pop up box isnt refreshing after I send a message (this is all happening while I am typing this post). Now the phone has become laggy and somewhat unstable... rebooted! All is well. So I went roughly 4-5 days without a reboot... where as before I had to reboot at least once a day.
Thats about the best I can get with these settings:
CM7 7.0.3.1
Savaged Zen 2.6.38.5 CFS > Using SavagedZen Governor, min 384 max 998
Displaying some animations (read somewhere that is a "fix".. or helping extend the time it takes for the Black screen of death to appear).
This is after several full wipes, several when I was running Amon RA recovery 1.8 then updated to the latest and did it two more times. After upgrading Amon and wiping I did not use any backups and started completely from scratch.
So I am not sure what else to do. Some people are getting this, some are not.
So I've tried out MikG 2.2, Synergy nightlies and 6/27 RC1, Kingdom Revolution and Synergy-Kingdom and I seem to have the same two prevalent issues I could use some help with.
1.) I use the desk clock feature of my EVO in night mode. Problem is all these roms share a common problem, that being that for some reason the World Clock service will crash and take it out of night mode. Also not sure why but with standard EVO sense roms it immediately goes to the clock whereas with the sense 2.1/3.0 roms the screen dims but doesn't go to the night clock for somewhere around 10 minutes like on an aosp rom.
2.) I use google nav heavily. I make about 10-15 stops a day for work and need it always running. Problem is with sense 2.1/3.0 roms that for some reason I haven't been able to identify, the screen will dim randomly and ultimately shut off during navigation sessions. I have tried setting the screen to always on while charging, messed around with spare parts and set the brightness to manual and auto, disabled power saving features on the phone, all to no avail. The phone is constantly plugged in and mounted on my dash, so its always charging.
I keep no personal info on my phone, so when I wipe it for a rom, EVERYTHING is wiped. SDCard, Rotation and battery stats, data, cache, system, boot, everything. I do that once over, then mount it, format the sdcard with my computer, then copy vr_superwipe and flash that to wipe it all again, then remount, format again on computer, unmount and go through the wipe list again, then remount and copy over whatever rom I am installing and start the flashing process. I use AmonRa 2.3 as I have had issues in the past with clockwork not wiping properly. I never punch in my google account until I can disable restore features. I have tried the desktop clock and google nav on a freshly installed version of each of those roms with touching nothing else and also with full profile and all that, they still do what they do.
So my question is to the community, am I overlooking something or does anyone have any ideas for me? I wanted to hit up this forum first before going to the respective dev forums. Thanks.
I use the desktop clock every night too, on my night stand.
You know, the button next to the "night" button takes it right to the clock screen.
As for Nav, I rarely use it, living in a small town, so I haven't had that problem
Watcher07 said:
So I've tried out MikG 2.2, Synergy nightlies and 6/27 RC1, Kingdom Revolution and Synergy-Kingdom and I seem to have the same two prevalent issues I could use some help with.
1.) I use the desk clock feature of my EVO in night mode. Problem is all these roms share a common problem, that being that for some reason the World Clock service will crash and take it out of night mode. Also not sure why but with standard EVO sense roms it immediately goes to the clock whereas with the sense 2.1/3.0 roms the screen dims but doesn't go to the night clock for somewhere around 10 minutes like on an aosp rom.
2.) I use google nav heavily. I make about 10-15 stops a day for work and need it always running. Problem is with sense 2.1/3.0 roms that for some reason I haven't been able to identify, the screen will dim randomly and ultimately shut off during navigation sessions. I have tried setting the screen to always on while charging, messed around with spare parts and set the brightness to manual and auto, disabled power saving features on the phone, all to no avail. The phone is constantly plugged in and mounted on my dash, so its always charging.
I keep no personal info on my phone, so when I wipe it for a rom, EVERYTHING is wiped. SDCard, Rotation and battery stats, data, cache, system, boot, everything. I do that once over, then mount it, format the sdcard with my computer, then copy vr_superwipe and flash that to wipe it all again, then remount, format again on computer, unmount and go through the wipe list again, then remount and copy over whatever rom I am installing and start the flashing process. I use AmonRa 2.3 as I have had issues in the past with clockwork not wiping properly. I never punch in my google account until I can disable restore features. I have tried the desktop clock and google nav on a freshly installed version of each of those roms with touching nothing else and also with full profile and all that, they still do what they do.
So my question is to the community, am I overlooking something or does anyone have any ideas for me? I wanted to hit up this forum first before going to the respective dev forums. Thanks.
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I haven't noticed any of those problems in regard to the navigation app and I use both Google & the Sprint TelNav app often. My device's display stays lit when I'm using the apps. I haven't noticed the thing in regard to the clock either, but I'll experiment with it later and sew what I CA cone up with. Finally, your method of wiping is suffice. You really don't need a superwipe or format-all zip when yo have RA v2.3 and you wipe EVERYTHING in the wipe menu except the card. If you have the time, flash Warm 2.2 RLS-5 and see if you still experience the things you referenced above.
posting & replying from my EVO 4G
HipKat said:
I use the desktop clock every night too, on my night stand.
You know, the button next to the "night" button takes it right to the clock screen.
As for Nav, I rarely use it, living in a small town, so I haven't had that problem
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Not so much worried about the screen not dimming, more dealing with the entire app crashing. Might be worth mentioning I'm on a hw0004 evo as well. I've also used Calkulins latest radios combo pack to make sure I'm at the latest of all radios.
Something new about the nav issue, the screen doesn't shut off fully, I let it go today to see what would happen and the screen stayed dim until the voice needed to prompt me for a turn in which the screen returned to normal brightness. So it would appear that for some reason the screen will dim after a couple minutes if you're on a straight leg of a trip but will bring the screen back up to normal brightness when it needs to communicate to turn or whatnot. Not sure what to make of that but I was able to confirm it multiple times.
**UPDATE**
Well, apprently a few other people have been seeing this issue from the google maps 5.7 update, so it looks like it might not be ROM related.