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Hey guys from the EVO community! Im active in the marketplace (hehe), off-topic section, and the HD2 forums! Moving from WinMo, to my first android tomorrow morning, the EVO. having not have had a android before, I understand that rooting will give me access to something like cydia on jailbroken IPhones, but is flashing a custom ROM possible? I have seen people talking about how devs are missing certian things, but can we flash customs yet? Also, is it possible for me to get wired tethering without paying the 30$ fee for wireless?
Thanks guys, hope to have a amazing time with the EVO, sprint, and the community here on XDA!
When you root your phone, you will also install a recovery image. What the recovery does is it allows you to flash custom roms to your phone, along with some other functions like formatting your sdcard.
Most roms come with the wireless tether app that allows you to share your phones internet with your computer.
GamerMYJ said:
Hey guys from the EVO community! Im active in the marketplace (hehe), off-topic section, and the HD2 forums! Moving from WinMo, to my first android tomorrow morning, the EVO. having not have had a android before, I understand that rooting will give me access to something like cydia on jailbroken IPhones, but is flashing a custom ROM possible? I have seen people talking about how devs are missing certian things, but can we flash customs yet? Also, is it possible for me to get wired tethering without paying the 30$ fee for wireless?
Thanks guys, hope to have a amazing time with the EVO, sprint, and the community here on XDA!
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1. Rooting (aka jailbreak) allows to gain root access (ie su, sudo on linux). Cydia equivalent is not needed since Google Marketplace DOES host applications that require root access. Even without root, you can install apk (ipa equivalent) downloaded from the net.
2. Flashing rom is fully possible
3. 2.1 Eclair roms are not missing anything. Most 2.2 Froyo roms are missing features. Cyanogen 6 is the most complete Froyo rom now. We'll probably get a mostly polished version in a few weeks.
4. Yes, you can tether for free. Almost all the custom roms contain wireless tether. Turns your phone into a wireless router. If you don't have a laptop, there is a wired tether hack somewhere (saw it a week ago on forum).
Thanks guys. Ill try rooting my EVO as soon as I get it with this guide.
One thing about root, you install recovery img, then you install a rooted rom. If I want to do a custom ROM, do I have to do the recovery img again? Or straight to another ROM?
Also, what is the fastest, no sense, 2.1 ROM? (i need 4G, none on cyanogen yet, right?)
Also, whats NAND for?
Thanks, you've been a big help already
EDIT: Seems like using unrEVOked will take away 4g, is that true?
Also if I root, can I revert to make it stock for warranty purposes?
I rooted using toasts method. Tried a bunch of ROMs and don't really like any of them. What is the closest to STOCK Rom out there? I like the HTC sense and stock EVO but want to maintain root for wifi tether. Any recomendations on a close to stock Rom greatly appreciated!
you can use the stock supersonic roms to keep root and maintain the stock experience. do a quick search at the top of this forum for the guides and roms sticky.
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I rooted using toasts method. Tried a bunch of ROMs and don't really like any of them. What is the closest to STOCK Rom out there? I like the HTC sense and stock EVO but want to maintain root for wifi tether. Any recomendations on a close to stock Rom greatly appreciated!
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prob best for the q&a thread.
im biased but i think my ROM, which i designed for exactly this intent is the best stock ROM. of course, thats my opinion. it loads the stock kernel and a completely stock system, with root that properly works with wifi tether and small developer tools like busybox, flash_image, and a shortcut remount script.
it loads all the stock apps, everything stock!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699847
if you want to remove some stock apps, i have a small web site tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700621
Just reroot via this method and you will 100% stock rom with root access and nand unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
I really like the stock experience as well, and this allows me to maintain that + add things like the FPS fix (godsend), & setcpu.
Enjoy.
Thanks FluShot! That is exactly what I wanted. One question though.... can I format the SD card now without loosing root? I have a bunch of junk on there from all the "messing" around.
Try omj eclair rom
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I think Caulkin posted an entirely stock rom, it has nothing but root added.
However I think OMJ or JoeyKrim is an even better idea, the only changes they have made are adding in some tools you may eventually need, which won't be in the way. BusyBox for example gives you tools for backing up, adding, and removing data and apps, but it doesn't even add an icon to your drawer, it is just available when needed from the terminal (and is probably less than 100k, but I don't know).
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Just reroot via this method and you will 100% stock rom with root access and nand unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
I really like the stock experience as well, and this allows me to maintain that + add things like the FPS fix (godsend), & setcpu.
Enjoy.
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I used this method and lost all capabilities of syncing my facebook contacts and pictures. a few of us have had that problems but no one seems to have the answer. =/
I used Facebook sync from the market to get all my contact pictures imported. Not sure if that is how you are supposed to do it but it worked for pictures then I removed the app.
So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? I have the Superuser icon, but when i open it, i get "no apps in list" ? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? how do i get that little superadministrator icon on my phone? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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Choose a new fancy ROM, download it to your SD card and use Amon to flash it. Easy as pie.
They are many great ROMs from many great developers here. Everyone has their preferences, mine is Fresh. I've never been dissapointed.
Agreed.....I can tell a big difference in speed and battery life but now what? I also can't delete any of the Sprint bloatware and I am on Baked Sense 1.6.
I don't understand: Why would you root your phone if you don't even know what it does? Not trying to be a ****; I'm just saying.
Firstly, if you rooted, all you did was revert your phone back to 2.1 so you no longer have Froyo. (edit: nevermind.....I see you want back to 2.2; I'm guessing you flashed a 2.2 stock rooted rom to your phone). The superuser app is empty because it hasn't given superuser permission to any apps that require it. If you want to see your superuser app in action, download ShootMe or screenshot from the market, and you will see the app asks for superuser permission.
I rooted my phone because I thought it was ridiculous to pay Sprint $30 a month to use the wireless tether option that was built into the Evo by HTC and which I already paid for when I purchased the phone. Now I use my root privileges to do a lot more, but my point is that I had a reason to root my phone to begin with. Download wireless tether and try it.
If you want to uninstall apps, download Titanium Back up (that's what I use anyway) and go to town removing stuff. I am not sure if the free version removes apps or not because I got the paid one from the beginning, but now that you are rooted, it is well worth the price for the premium license. You can use this app to move stuff to your SD card and free up your phone's internal memory, too. You can also back up all your apps and system data which is handy when you flash from one rom to another and you have to do a full wipe of your phone.
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Agreed.....I can tell a big difference in speed and battery life but now what? I also can't delete any of the Sprint bloatware and I am on Baked Sense 1.6.
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Some of the ROMs have all that stuff removed for you, such as Fresh.
First thing to do: Head over to the developer forum and flash Netarchy's kernel, which will uncap your FPS. Do it ASAP, DO IT NAO!!!!1!!1!1!eleven. Then come back here and tell us how amazing it is.
thanks for the input
Thanks for all the replies! Rugedraw - i especially appreciate your indepth answer despite the fact that you are clearly somewhat annoyed by the question.
Here's the thing. The android revolution is ongoing and picking up steam. and i could talk about that all day long. Opensource, kick blackberry in the berry, and send apple back to where it was after its huge popularity boom in the 90s - struggling to overcome its fatal closed system flaw. Beyond that, I bought my Evo for 2 reasons. My 16 month son threw my blackberry into the toilet (nice work - i now appreciate it), and my tech guy at work has been raving about his rooted Droid x2. as of 10 days ago it didn't seem possible to root the 2.2 froyo, but he told be to be on the lookout. I figured this is a little like an arms race and that the sooner i rooted my phone when the method was avail. the better. (tech guy is in italy with his fiancee right now, or i would be asking him all these questions)
Soooo, it seemed to me, that in the spirit of owning an opensource device and joining the android revolution, that i should root my phone and unlock all the magic.
I'm no computer programming whiz, i dont write code, and i learned all of the terminology on this board in the last 2 days. So lost, but learning fast.
I did not root my phone for no reason. I clearly understand the utility of having superuser status (besides, most guys are wired to want that kinda thing regardless) - deleting annoying sprint apps that chew power, "re-tuning" the device to run more efficiently, and of course, free wifi tethering.
But, after completing the most excellent root method described in this forum, i found myself staring at a rooted 2.2 and wondering what the next step was. There are NO google results for "i've rooted my evo 4, now what?" so thats why i started this thread, figuring that I was not the only one in my situation
THAT enormously long winded explanation complete, I would love to aggregate the appropriate options in this thread. Method to wipe, list of Flash Roms for a rooted 2.2 EVO.
Again, thanks for all the replies,
btw what does "uncap your FPS" mean?
If you did unrevoked then I would flash the latest Amon-RA recovery image. No offense to clockworkmod, amon is just my preference.
Poke around the recovery console and learn how it works.
NAND FIRST!! haha, develop that habit before you flash anything (roms, kernels, etc.), just in case
-Flash a rom that suits your needs. Read their OP's and threads to learn what they are about and what the people that use them think. I would suggest you just flash the stock rooted 2.2, play with it for a week or two to see how root works and explore what you can do with it. Also look into backup methods so you are familiar with how to preserve your stuff when you flash a different rom.
FPS = frames per second. There are kernels that will lift the 30fps cap.
Read about kernels and how to take advantage of them.
I know I've been pretty general, just pick a trail and start walking, when you have questions ask em
I like your logic of titling the thread exactly what you searched for, usin yer brains to make this thread more beneficial to the next guy (imagine a thumbs-up smiley here)
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First thing to do: Head over to the developer forum and flash Netarchy's kernel, which will uncap your FPS. Do it ASAP, DO IT NAO!!!!1!!1!1!eleven. Then come back here and tell us how amazing it is.
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It is highly recommended that you do what he says! You'll see a major improvement in lots of areas. In case you're curious here is my setup: STOCK 2.2 w/ Netarchy kernal. I chose the stock 2.2 so that I may do with it what I like. It's very fast and very stable.
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So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? I have the Superuser icon, but when i open it, i get "no apps in list" ? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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You can remove Sprint stuff, just have to spend some time and learn to use ADB. Rooting an EVO is not the same as rooting an iPhone, you can pretty much do everything you can from rooting an iPhone without even rooting Android so the difference is not that great.
Most of what you gain from rooting Android is being able to do things the carrier doesn't wan't you to do such as install free wifi tethering, remove their apps etc... You can also install others roms where they have already done this stuff for you but from what I have seen on the EVO and 2.2 battery life suffers greatly on pretty much any rom other than stock rooted so there is a lot to be gained from learning adb and just working with the stock rooted rom to remove the apps you wan't to.
I'm in the same boat. I got my new EVO on Tuesday, it was rooted an hour later. Why? Because that's how we do things! First thing for me it was important to have tethering. Work blocks damned near everything. As I learn more about the Android system I'll get more use out of root.
I was carefully paying attention to the thread and particularly bluehaze's answer. I'd like to learn more about using adb to remove sprint crap. That amazon app is always restarting itself. If there an ADB for newbs guide around here anywhere? I looked but didn't see.
There are a few things that I use which make root a necessity.
- custom ROMs provide a setup more tailored to what you are personally looking for
- using wireless tethering without being artificially limited to Sprint's commercial offering
- backups! I can boot into recovery and make a backup image of my setup at any point. That way no matter what settings I change or what ROMs I test out, I can always go right back to my stable daily driver in 5 minutes if needed.
- custom recovery and superuser allow you to install things, uninstall things, theme things, etc. Nothing worse than not being able to change something on my own device
- speed, battery, etc. via tweaked kernels. I'm using Baked Snack's ROM and kernel now and it's way faster and nicer on battery than stock
nOObs need love too
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...There are NO google results for "i've rooted my evo 4, now what?" ...
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Now there is...thanks. My Google search on those words led me here. I've been lurking on these boards since I got my EVO a while ago, but I haven't had the guts to root until right now, 2nite, it's happening... I'll be back soon with my *new and improved* phone.
Whoo! Good Luck!
Indeed, you'll be a flash addict in no time. You may want to check out the link in my sig - it points to my post in a more recent version of this thread, with more current and relevant information throughout. Good luck!
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
I searched the exact same thing in google 'cept im on an x10, this thread looks like a good place to start
New guy...
Same here, I just rooted my Evo today and everything seems to be working great. But I'm clueless on how to put a rom on to my sd card so I can flash it to my evo.
Can any one send me a link to a basic how to..
Thanks
Rich
Mu Verizon contract is up on the 28th and I'm going to flash and switch to PagePlus.
My question is this; After the flash, can I install CM7 or CM9? I was told by a flasher that this was not possible.
Hi, I'm a Page Plus customer, dinc user, and a recovering ROM flashing addict.
First off, what are you 'flashing' to switch to Page Plus? You just need to dial *22890 to program it, after the ESN is activated on Page Plus.
And really, you can flash whatever ROM you want. If it works on Verizon, it'll work on Page Plus. Of course the usual rules about being rooted, etc. apply... I've used MIUI gb, MIUI ics, AOKP ics, Evervolv ics, and am currently running Ice Cream Senseless because I got tired of the camera issues on the ics roms.
The only thing you need to remember is that you need to use Page Plus's codes when doing OTA programming and PRL updates. It's *22890 to program/activate the phone on Page Plus, and *22891 to update the PRL.
Happy flashing!
Many thanks
Thank you.!!!
Phone flashing
I know this is really late but hopefully it will help others.
When you get your phone flashed you will more then likely have to be on a stock rom. This is from experience as I am a Page Plus dealer. Many roms do not support either the codes, or the drivers to allow your phones modem to connect with a pc to allow flashing.
Once your flashed to the carrier, you can use whatever rom you want. Keep in mind though that depending on what rom you use, they may access the raidos diffrently and your 3g data may or may not work. You may have to use a stock rom of try several roms before you find a reliable one.
Just a heads up in case someone didnt know, before you switch carriers and get all pissed with support.....aka someone like me.
If I am wrong about this please correct me and teach me a new way because I would really like to be able to flash more cm9 phones with out reverting them to stock first. ( just to save time. ) So far the major culprit are motorola phones.
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So far the major culprit are motorola phones.
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Well that should have been expected!
Hello, I just signed up to the forum today. However, I've thoroughly searched this forum and Google'd trying to find useful information. I've gotten the jest of what needs to be done but no clear step by step details.
First, if I've rooted my GalaxySiii, am using stock ROM, with WiFi-tether app and it's working to tether to laptap. Do I "still" need to remove the TMO tether manager if I plan on using a VPN (Virtual Private Network)? In plain English, can TMO tell I'm tethering my data connection if I'm using a VPN?
Second, I've downloaded Titanium Backup * root (free version), (I KNOW I NEED THE PAID TO FREEZE) but was trying to ensure I could locate (see) the Tether Manager before I pay $7 for an app I don't need. I've never been able to locate TMO tether manager or anything with the word tether for the matter within Titanium or Root Explorer. The only TMO apps I see in Titanium (only 3 tabs within Titanium (Overview / Backup/Restore / Schedules), I'm using the Backup/Restore tab is (CallerTunes 3.0, MobileLife Contacts 3.8.01, T-Mobile My Account 2.1.1348, T-Mobile Name ID 1.9.6, T-Mobile TV 5.0.0.73-178477, and Visual Voicemail 2.0.28).
While in Root Explore app, I have no idea what I'm looking at. I would love to delete bloatware and such but am afraid of deleting the wrong thing. Okay, so I given you the details now here is the second question. I need someone to explain to me and I'm sure many others in plain English, with all the steps, how to disable or delete/uninstall the TMO tether manager either in Titanium or Root Explorer because there is no such app (Titanium) or APK in (Root Explorer) that just saying Tether Manager? Is it be hidden or under a different name?
I'm sorry for the extensive info, but I did watch the NOOB video when I registered and it said to be as thorough as possible without being too winded. Thank you in advance for your time and assistance with my problem! )
It's been a while since I've had the stock ROM and I'm working off of memory here so bear with me.
I'm assuming when you say you're using a WiFi-tether app you mean a third party one and not the one that came with the phone. If that's the case if the Tether app you downloaded specifically meant for root? I don't know about any of the other Tether apps out there, but WiFi Tether for Root works for some on the stock ROM. As for disabling Tether Manager try going to the default Task Manager by hitting the left softkey>Manage Apps>All and see if there's any Tether Manager or Samsung Tether apps and disable from there.
As long as you're tethering through the app I recommended though, Samsung shouldn't be able to tell if you're tethering your data plan. Sorry I don't have more information regarding running a rooted stock ROM, but from what I understand WiFi Tether for Root works on any AOSP based ROM and I can tell you that it works on CM10 for sure.
Also, can we please choose a less painful color for my eyes... like say black. Or charcoal. Or grey. Or even carbon fiber.
I feel like you're asking 12 different questions. Most of which have been covered on the forums. It's good to be thorough but please please please get your first questioned answered before asking 3 more.
Which is most important?
Sorry, this was a duplicate post that I've deleted!
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I feel like you're asking 12 different questions. Most of which have been covered on the forums. It's good to be thorough but please please please get your first questioned answered before asking 3 more.
Which is most important?
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Really? Where? Because I've searched the forum and many of the answers are vague, incomplete or do not include the steps to accomplish as I've asked.
I would like this portion of my question answered. Thank you for you help!
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Second, I've downloaded Titanium Backup * root (free version), (I KNOW I NEED THE PAID TO FREEZE) but was trying to ensure I could locate (see) the Tether Manager before I pay $7 for an app I don't need. I've never been able to locate TMO tether manager or anything with the word tether for the matter within Titanium or Root Explorer. The only TMO apps I see in Titanium (only 3 tabs within Titanium (Overview / Backup/Restore / Schedules), I'm using the Backup/Restore tab is (CallerTunes 3.0, MobileLife Contacts 3.8.01, T-Mobile My Account 2.1.1348, T-Mobile Name ID 1.9.6, T-Mobile TV 5.0.0.73-178477, and Visual Voicemail 2.0.28).
While in Root Explore app, I have no idea what I'm looking at. I would love to delete bloatware and such but am afraid of deleting the wrong thing. Okay, so I given you the details now here is the second question. I need someone to explain to me and I'm sure many others in plain English, with all the steps, how to disable or delete/uninstall the TMO tether manager either in Titanium or Root Explorer because there is no such app (Titanium) or APK in (Root Explorer) that just saying Tether Manager? Is it be hidden or under a different name?
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@ OP - I know what you're asking about, because that's how it worked on the GSII
However, the app we used to freeze to get away with it (tethering manager) is not present in any recognizable form as far as I can tell on the GSIII
Plus they now use alternate methods to detect tethering, such as the browser you are using, etc
All in all, just pay the $15 bucks a month or use one of the methods outlined in several threads in this forum. Although I believe they only work if used a specific way, with specific browsers, etc
Hope that answers your question
Ok, much easier to read your post now. The method that I'm currently using requires a custom ROM. It's been shown to work for others as well. First you need to upgrade your ROM to Cyanogenmod10. There's an entire thread on that in the Original Android Development section.
The app I use is: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...S5nb29nbGVjb2RlLmFuZHJvaWQud2lmaS50ZXRoZXIiXQ
I'm not sure if that's the same one you currently have or not, but I know for a fact that the above app works.
Once you install the custom ROM you no longer need to worry about disabling the Tether Manager as it won't even be installed.
If you want to stick with a stock ROM there are workarounds, but like the user above me posted you'll have to dig around the forums. I had the stock ROM for about 2 hours before abandoning it.
Okay, I will upgrade my ROM. The link to the app you've given me is the app I'm currently using. I know that they will still be able to see that I'm tethering even if I upgrade my ROM; however they wont be able to stop it. So I'm wondering if anyone knows if using a VPN is a workaround for their snooping?
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Ok, much easier to read your post now. The method that I'm currently using requires a custom ROM. It's been shown to work for others as well. First you need to upgrade your ROM to Cyanogenmod10. There's an entire thread on that in the Original Android Development section.
The app I use is: (HAD TO DELETE THE LINK BECAUSE TO PREVENT SPAM ALL NEW USERS ARE PREVENTED FROM POSTING OUTSIDE LINKS UNTIL THEY HAVE POSTED 10 TIMES)
I'm not sure if that's the same one you currently have or not, but I know for a fact that the above app works.
Once you install the custom ROM you no longer need to worry about disabling the Tether Manager as it won't even be installed.
If you want to stick with a stock ROM there are workarounds, but like the user above me posted you'll have to dig around the forums. I had the stock ROM for about 2 hours before abandoning it.
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I couldn't find it (tethering manager) and was going batty trying to.
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@ OP - I know what you're asking about, because that's how it worked on the GSII
However, the app we used to freeze to get away with it (tethering manager) is not present in any recognizable form as far as I can tell on the GSIII
Plus they now use alternate methods to detect tethering, such as the browser you are using, etc
All in all, just pay the $15 bucks a month or use one of the methods outlined in several threads in this forum. Although I believe they only work if used a specific way, with specific browsers, etc
Hope that answers your question
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Thank you both for all your help! I really appreciate it!