Getting first android, few questions! - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys from the EVO community! Im active in the marketplace (hehe), off-topic section, and the HD2 forums! Moving from WinMo, to my first android tomorrow morning, the EVO. having not have had a android before, I understand that rooting will give me access to something like cydia on jailbroken IPhones, but is flashing a custom ROM possible? I have seen people talking about how devs are missing certian things, but can we flash customs yet? Also, is it possible for me to get wired tethering without paying the 30$ fee for wireless?
Thanks guys, hope to have a amazing time with the EVO, sprint, and the community here on XDA!

When you root your phone, you will also install a recovery image. What the recovery does is it allows you to flash custom roms to your phone, along with some other functions like formatting your sdcard.
Most roms come with the wireless tether app that allows you to share your phones internet with your computer.

GamerMYJ said:
Hey guys from the EVO community! Im active in the marketplace (hehe), off-topic section, and the HD2 forums! Moving from WinMo, to my first android tomorrow morning, the EVO. having not have had a android before, I understand that rooting will give me access to something like cydia on jailbroken IPhones, but is flashing a custom ROM possible? I have seen people talking about how devs are missing certian things, but can we flash customs yet? Also, is it possible for me to get wired tethering without paying the 30$ fee for wireless?
Thanks guys, hope to have a amazing time with the EVO, sprint, and the community here on XDA!
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1. Rooting (aka jailbreak) allows to gain root access (ie su, sudo on linux). Cydia equivalent is not needed since Google Marketplace DOES host applications that require root access. Even without root, you can install apk (ipa equivalent) downloaded from the net.
2. Flashing rom is fully possible
3. 2.1 Eclair roms are not missing anything. Most 2.2 Froyo roms are missing features. Cyanogen 6 is the most complete Froyo rom now. We'll probably get a mostly polished version in a few weeks.
4. Yes, you can tether for free. Almost all the custom roms contain wireless tether. Turns your phone into a wireless router. If you don't have a laptop, there is a wired tether hack somewhere (saw it a week ago on forum).

Thanks guys. Ill try rooting my EVO as soon as I get it with this guide.
One thing about root, you install recovery img, then you install a rooted rom. If I want to do a custom ROM, do I have to do the recovery img again? Or straight to another ROM?
Also, what is the fastest, no sense, 2.1 ROM? (i need 4G, none on cyanogen yet, right?)
Also, whats NAND for?
Thanks, you've been a big help already
EDIT: Seems like using unrEVOked will take away 4g, is that true?

Also if I root, can I revert to make it stock for warranty purposes?

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I'm Rooted, now what?

So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? I have the Superuser icon, but when i open it, i get "no apps in list" ? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
monetmonet said:
So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? how do i get that little superadministrator icon on my phone? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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Choose a new fancy ROM, download it to your SD card and use Amon to flash it. Easy as pie.
They are many great ROMs from many great developers here. Everyone has their preferences, mine is Fresh. I've never been dissapointed.
Agreed.....I can tell a big difference in speed and battery life but now what? I also can't delete any of the Sprint bloatware and I am on Baked Sense 1.6.
I don't understand: Why would you root your phone if you don't even know what it does? Not trying to be a ****; I'm just saying.
Firstly, if you rooted, all you did was revert your phone back to 2.1 so you no longer have Froyo. (edit: nevermind.....I see you want back to 2.2; I'm guessing you flashed a 2.2 stock rooted rom to your phone). The superuser app is empty because it hasn't given superuser permission to any apps that require it. If you want to see your superuser app in action, download ShootMe or screenshot from the market, and you will see the app asks for superuser permission.
I rooted my phone because I thought it was ridiculous to pay Sprint $30 a month to use the wireless tether option that was built into the Evo by HTC and which I already paid for when I purchased the phone. Now I use my root privileges to do a lot more, but my point is that I had a reason to root my phone to begin with. Download wireless tether and try it.
If you want to uninstall apps, download Titanium Back up (that's what I use anyway) and go to town removing stuff. I am not sure if the free version removes apps or not because I got the paid one from the beginning, but now that you are rooted, it is well worth the price for the premium license. You can use this app to move stuff to your SD card and free up your phone's internal memory, too. You can also back up all your apps and system data which is handy when you flash from one rom to another and you have to do a full wipe of your phone.
ddublu said:
Agreed.....I can tell a big difference in speed and battery life but now what? I also can't delete any of the Sprint bloatware and I am on Baked Sense 1.6.
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Some of the ROMs have all that stuff removed for you, such as Fresh.
First thing to do: Head over to the developer forum and flash Netarchy's kernel, which will uncap your FPS. Do it ASAP, DO IT NAO!!!!1!!1!1!eleven. Then come back here and tell us how amazing it is.
thanks for the input
Thanks for all the replies! Rugedraw - i especially appreciate your indepth answer despite the fact that you are clearly somewhat annoyed by the question.
Here's the thing. The android revolution is ongoing and picking up steam. and i could talk about that all day long. Opensource, kick blackberry in the berry, and send apple back to where it was after its huge popularity boom in the 90s - struggling to overcome its fatal closed system flaw. Beyond that, I bought my Evo for 2 reasons. My 16 month son threw my blackberry into the toilet (nice work - i now appreciate it), and my tech guy at work has been raving about his rooted Droid x2. as of 10 days ago it didn't seem possible to root the 2.2 froyo, but he told be to be on the lookout. I figured this is a little like an arms race and that the sooner i rooted my phone when the method was avail. the better. (tech guy is in italy with his fiancee right now, or i would be asking him all these questions)
Soooo, it seemed to me, that in the spirit of owning an opensource device and joining the android revolution, that i should root my phone and unlock all the magic.
I'm no computer programming whiz, i dont write code, and i learned all of the terminology on this board in the last 2 days. So lost, but learning fast.
I did not root my phone for no reason. I clearly understand the utility of having superuser status (besides, most guys are wired to want that kinda thing regardless) - deleting annoying sprint apps that chew power, "re-tuning" the device to run more efficiently, and of course, free wifi tethering.
But, after completing the most excellent root method described in this forum, i found myself staring at a rooted 2.2 and wondering what the next step was. There are NO google results for "i've rooted my evo 4, now what?" so thats why i started this thread, figuring that I was not the only one in my situation
THAT enormously long winded explanation complete, I would love to aggregate the appropriate options in this thread. Method to wipe, list of Flash Roms for a rooted 2.2 EVO.
Again, thanks for all the replies,
btw what does "uncap your FPS" mean?
If you did unrevoked then I would flash the latest Amon-RA recovery image. No offense to clockworkmod, amon is just my preference.
Poke around the recovery console and learn how it works.
NAND FIRST!! haha, develop that habit before you flash anything (roms, kernels, etc.), just in case
-Flash a rom that suits your needs. Read their OP's and threads to learn what they are about and what the people that use them think. I would suggest you just flash the stock rooted 2.2, play with it for a week or two to see how root works and explore what you can do with it. Also look into backup methods so you are familiar with how to preserve your stuff when you flash a different rom.
FPS = frames per second. There are kernels that will lift the 30fps cap.
Read about kernels and how to take advantage of them.
I know I've been pretty general, just pick a trail and start walking, when you have questions ask em
I like your logic of titling the thread exactly what you searched for, usin yer brains to make this thread more beneficial to the next guy (imagine a thumbs-up smiley here)
zeuzinn said:
First thing to do: Head over to the developer forum and flash Netarchy's kernel, which will uncap your FPS. Do it ASAP, DO IT NAO!!!!1!!1!1!eleven. Then come back here and tell us how amazing it is.
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It is highly recommended that you do what he says! You'll see a major improvement in lots of areas. In case you're curious here is my setup: STOCK 2.2 w/ Netarchy kernal. I chose the stock 2.2 so that I may do with it what I like. It's very fast and very stable.
monetmonet said:
So, a Huge thanks to all those who worked on the method to get 2.2 rooted. I followed the directions and I am here, rooted. I used the Amon_Ra for my recovery back to 2.2. Now, this might be a stupid question, but What now? My phone looks the same, and I still can't remove sprint stuff. What are the next steps, I know i can install a custom "higher speed ROM", but can i just work from where i am now? I have the Superuser icon, but when i open it, i get "no apps in list" ? what do i need to install to start taking advantage of all that rooting has to offer?
Thanks for your replies!!
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You can remove Sprint stuff, just have to spend some time and learn to use ADB. Rooting an EVO is not the same as rooting an iPhone, you can pretty much do everything you can from rooting an iPhone without even rooting Android so the difference is not that great.
Most of what you gain from rooting Android is being able to do things the carrier doesn't wan't you to do such as install free wifi tethering, remove their apps etc... You can also install others roms where they have already done this stuff for you but from what I have seen on the EVO and 2.2 battery life suffers greatly on pretty much any rom other than stock rooted so there is a lot to be gained from learning adb and just working with the stock rooted rom to remove the apps you wan't to.
I'm in the same boat. I got my new EVO on Tuesday, it was rooted an hour later. Why? Because that's how we do things! First thing for me it was important to have tethering. Work blocks damned near everything. As I learn more about the Android system I'll get more use out of root.
I was carefully paying attention to the thread and particularly bluehaze's answer. I'd like to learn more about using adb to remove sprint crap. That amazon app is always restarting itself. If there an ADB for newbs guide around here anywhere? I looked but didn't see.
There are a few things that I use which make root a necessity.
- custom ROMs provide a setup more tailored to what you are personally looking for
- using wireless tethering without being artificially limited to Sprint's commercial offering
- backups! I can boot into recovery and make a backup image of my setup at any point. That way no matter what settings I change or what ROMs I test out, I can always go right back to my stable daily driver in 5 minutes if needed.
- custom recovery and superuser allow you to install things, uninstall things, theme things, etc. Nothing worse than not being able to change something on my own device
- speed, battery, etc. via tweaked kernels. I'm using Baked Snack's ROM and kernel now and it's way faster and nicer on battery than stock
nOObs need love too
monetmonet said:
...There are NO google results for "i've rooted my evo 4, now what?" ...
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Now there is...thanks. My Google search on those words led me here. I've been lurking on these boards since I got my EVO a while ago, but I haven't had the guts to root until right now, 2nite, it's happening... I'll be back soon with my *new and improved* phone.
Whoo! Good Luck!
Indeed, you'll be a flash addict in no time. You may want to check out the link in my sig - it points to my post in a more recent version of this thread, with more current and relevant information throughout. Good luck!
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
I searched the exact same thing in google 'cept im on an x10, this thread looks like a good place to start
New guy...
Same here, I just rooted my Evo today and everything seems to be working great. But I'm clueless on how to put a rom on to my sd card so I can flash it to my evo.
Can any one send me a link to a basic how to..
Thanks
Rich

[Q] I need an adroid education

Hey guys... plain and simple, I need help. I'm kind of a noob, but not really. I know a little bit here and there but I want to get good with my Evo, I mean really good! I'm currently browsing XDA in my car (Evolution X) tethered to my Evo 4G. Love Evo's. I'm also on a macbook pro, which makes a lot of the standard rooting options difficult for me, and i'm not running boot camp on my mac, so I don't have windows access.
Anyway, I want a foolproof, safe root. Currently I'm rooted with unrEVOked3. I hear not so great things, especially that full root might not have been attained. I want to confirm this and I don't know how. I don't want to be stuck with a root that might brick me in the future or give me problems down the road. I'm considering unrooting unrevoked and re-rooting with a more solid root method. I know that it doesn't matter the method as long as root is attained in the end but, from what i've read, a lot of people just don't agree with unrevoked method. I'm also concerned about the updates that unrevoked will provide when OTAs come out.
Here are my objectives...
1. Be familiar with the definitions and common terms root users use. For example, I want a clear understanding of recovery mode, HBOOT, bootloader, setcpu, kernels, etc. I know a little bit, but I don't feel comfortable enough to start messing around with flashing roms, changing kernels, etc. I want to be though.
2. I want to be able to flash roms.
3. I want full root and guaranteed SU permissions.
4. Wifi Tether.
5. ability and know how to overclock and underclock depending on the situation i'm in.
I know a lot of you guys will tell me to search and READ READ READ, but i've been doing this since I got me Evo about a month and a half ago. I rooted with unrEVOked3 because on my mac it was a simple download and click.
I downloaded the android-sdk-mac-86 download and I also have ECLIPSE for mac. I know these are app development programs, but will this help me with root and everything from there on?
Does anyone have a link to a site with definitions and explanations or is someone willing to take the time to explain to me these definitions and how they relate to android and effect the phone...
I appreciate you guys helping me. If you're going to tell me to use the search button or read the stickies, please save it, my laptop only has 3 hours of battery and i'm driving cross country and checking the forums while i'm riding shotgun.
Thanks in advance.
my 6th objective is to have all the apps i'll need to monitor and maintain my phone as best as i can.
I know about ROM manager, setcpu (don't have yet), Titanium Backup, and system info.
is there an app that allows me to browse ALL folders on the phone? currently I have ASTRO.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/re...ide-android-terminoligy-lingo.html#post462728
thank you for the link.

[Q] Time to ROOT my EVO!

I love the phone and its has been keeping me sane here at work.
However i hate the fact i cant use HULU, or Netflix. Not to mention the lag i have been getting with the phone.
I love this site and all the different themes and roms available.
All my friends are telling me to ROOT THIS PHONE! if i want to really experience the power of the phone.
I have read many of the rooting tutorials however i dont see any tutorial for hardware version 003.
Can anyone direct me to the correct thread?
The hardware version doesn't really mean anything when it comes to gaining root user access to your device.
The main factor in determining which root method to use is your hboot version. You can find the information on how to get this, and links to preferred root methods...
HERE!
AWSOME! THANK YOU! i have been reading all the posts here and reading up all the different methods.
That Hardware version was the only think stopping me
I would like to go to the Android 2.3 after i root it.
Can i skip going to Android 2.2 Fyroro? (is that how you spell it?)
Anyone have an answer for me ?
Also did anyone start getting bluetooth issues after the PRL update?
I dont think its related, but i got a new car and it will not connect to the bluetooth of my car.
Well it does but it will disconnect constantly, before it would connect fine and i would be able to stream form it.
I sure miss that, now i cant even use the bluetooth to make calls on it because it looses its connection and i have to re-establish the connection constantly.
Do bluetooth go bad on the evo?
Yes you can go to 2.3(Gingerbread) Android, but it is still in development for the Evo and is not stable and does not support HDMI and 4G at this time. It is in the works and 4G may be available in the next Cyanogen release which will be 2.3.1 Android version. If you want a Rom that everything works on you will have to flash a custom Sense based Rom which is a customized version of the stock Rom that came on your phone which are all 2.2(Froyo). Some are stripped of most HTC and Sprint apps and some are pretty close to stock with root. I would suggest reading the first post in all the Rom threads over in the Evo Development section to find out what is and what isn't working in each Rom. Read and learn about what all the terms mean like AOSP, Sense, Kernels and pretty much anything else you don't understand when reading about the Roms. It is best to get as much knowledge as possible before rooting and flashing because there are some serious risks. I don't mean to scare you because I highly encourage you to root, but I also encourage you to read and learn as much as possible before doing it. That way if you run into trouble and need help you can give a better description and it will be less likely that you will need help because everything you need to know is here on XDA.

Noob root questions

Hey everyone,
I am a super noob....wondering a few things....
1. Is it possible to root my evo without a PC? I do not own one and my phone is my only source of internet.
2. If so how? And is their any detailed how to's for such a thing...step by step.....possibly even noob proof
3. Assuming I can and I get it rooted what would you recommend next? I can maybe use someones comp from work so this question is essential
Sorry if this has been posted before, but forums can be such a chore when on a mobile
Look forward to your help and incite....cptcave
Sent from my HTC Evo using XDA App
Hmmm....as far as I know you would need a computer to root fje phone, I haven't seen a way to do it without it. Of course I could be wrong here.
If you could borrow a friends computer you should be fine. Just search the forum and you'll find some great threads on how to root. I did mine after it first came out so im not too familiar with the newer simpler versions on how to do it.
Hope this was of some help.
Sent from my EVO (CM 6.1.1) using XDA App
Yes,J asonK75 is right. As far as I know, you do need a computer to fully root & unlock Nand.
Loads of threads for step by step instructions.
The advantages of rooting are basically that you can install certail apps (Wifi tether, Titanium Backup) which require root access to work. Furthermore, rooting gives you ability to install custom roms and theme your phone.
Hope this answeres all your questions.
Agreed. I could not imagine being on the stock Sense ROM anymore. I love CM ROMs and I like the fact that I can try others like MIUI and Liquid too. Themes are worth it right there, not to mention custom kernals and different transitions. Plus we might have GB before the official release of it!
Sent from my EVO (CM 6.1.1) using XDA App

[Q] Best root method - a lot out there!

ok well I just picked up my new Epic after trading in my awesome (but heavy) Evo 4G. I had no issues rooting, flashing numerous rom's, bootloaders, etc. and now I'm in a new pool!
Since I've always trusted & used XDA for that device, I trust it for this new one as well. So I am looking at the dev sub cat and naturally on page1 there are do it this way, that way, etc. I used unrevoked which naturally won't work for this, so what's the easiest (and / or preferred method) for rooting this device?
I am writing this thread on a macbook, so have access to that as well as a VM of windows xp, win 7 and openSuse, so really any OS.
Looking forward to ROM flashing, testing, whatever direction the group goes, so just like the evo, want to follow the lead from you guys.
Looking forward to the new journey!
Thanks ...
Whsts up nd welcome i had og evo nd evo3d so i know you feel crossing over samsung but honestly its too easy to root lol.just look in dev section theres how to videos nd directions noob prove.pm if any questions.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Is this ROM on the EG31 or 30 base? Where's the download link? Im confused.
phatmanxxl said:
Is this ROM on the EG31 or 30 base? Where's the download link? Im confused.
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zedomax or lost kernel would work.
best roms, i like barebone rom the most, but starburst or calks rom is good
If you want to root, use this! Easiest and doesn't add to your ODIN counter
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
When did this become the Development Question section? Oh wait... We don't have one of those... : facepalm:
Moving this to Q&A....
Removing hands from face, and ever so sorry jerdog for posting IMO a development question in the development forum. In the EVO forums on XDA, anything root related, how-to, mod's, rom's, etc. all fell under there.
Looking at the description of the Q&A it states "For all of your questions relating to the Sprint Epic 4G Touch", then why do I see questions there at all? It should be strictly links to downloads, kernels, themes, etc. but hey, that's just my .02
And ... since I am in the Q&A now, I have it rooted, I tried to restore my titanium backup which I purchased, it did install but not listed in the apps and there is an uninstall (no open) under the market, so that app is installed, just not sure why it's not able to run. I will install a terminal app this am and look for the app to try, but just curious. If TB doesn't run, what is the preferred way/app to remove sprint bloatware, etc.
Also, I assume CWM is the preferred recovery app, same with the EPIC?
I am going to start looking at ROM's, etc. so may have a few more q's down the road (putting them in the Q&A I assume)
Thanks ....
CWM is indeed the preferred recovery. I just started flashing ROM's myself, my favorite so far is the AOSPMod ROM, followed my Starburst.
dette said:
If you want to root, use this! Easiest and doesn't add to your ODIN counter
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
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I agree that this seems to be the best, simplest and safest rooting method... I used this method on my wife's stock phone (she is afraid of modded). Easy as pie. I am not sure about the su version though, as I was not able to update that on her phone....

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