[Q] Newbie rooting woes - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
Firstly, sorry if I'm not using the correct terminology because I'm still quite unfamiliar with it.
Anyway, I just got my Desire Z about a week ago and am planning to root it so that I can access paid apps via Market Enabler.
I've read through all the guides on how to root and seems simple enough. However, I have a few questions regarding the default HTC applications.
1: Will I be able to continue using and updating the HTC apps (like HTC Locations, HTC Camera or HTC Car Dock) that came along with it after rooting?
2: Is is possible to keep the default SenseUI after rooting instead of getting a custom ROM that looks like SenseUI?
3: Will my phone stop working with htcsense.com after rooting?
4: Will I require a custom ROM installed into it after rooting, or can I just reuse the same default HTC ROM?
Basically, I love my phone and don't want to change anything except getting to access paid apps from Android Market. To do so, I would need to have Market Enabler working, which needs me to have Superuser permissions. Hence, why I need to root it.
Thanks!

scnix said:
Hey guys,
Firstly, sorry if I'm not using the correct terminology because I'm still quite unfamiliar with it.
Anyway, I just got my Desire Z about a week ago and am planning to root it so that I can access paid apps via Market Enabler.
I've read through all the guides on how to root and seems simple enough. However, I have a few questions regarding the default HTC applications.
1: Will I be able to continue using and updating the HTC apps (like HTC Locations, HTC Camera or HTC Car Dock) that came along with it after rooting?
2: Is is possible to keep the default SenseUI after rooting instead of getting a custom ROM that looks like SenseUI?
3: Will my phone stop working with htcsense.com after rooting?
4: Will I require a custom ROM installed into it after rooting, or can I just reuse the same default HTC ROM?
Basically, I love my phone and don't want to change anything except getting to access paid apps from Android Market. To do so, I would need to have Market Enabler working, which needs me to have Superuser permissions. Hence, why I need to root it.
Thanks!
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Rooting is just rooting; nothing will change other than your ability to do whatever you want to/with your device. Just rooting won't change anything other than your ability to install apps which require root access.
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Oh, so I suppose I was looking at the wrong rooting options then. The ones I've been looking at seems to flash the phone as well (unrevoked).
Guess I'll need to find a tutorial to just root the phone. Thanks!

scnix said:
Oh, so I suppose I was looking at the wrong rooting options then. The ones I've been looking at seems to flash the phone as well (unrevoked).
Guess I'll need to find a tutorial to just root the phone. Thanks!
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Use the guide in the Wiki here at XDA, http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
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Newbie Questions about EVO Rooting

I'm coming from a rooted port of Android for the Sprint Touch (Vogue) (Thanks DZO, Myn, and company!!!) and WOW EVO is amazing.
Anyways I have a few questions I need help with getting started I've been reading a lot but I'm still overwhelmed with the wealth of info:
#1. I updated the OTA - does this mean I can't root yet until the new OTA is rooted?
#2. I would like to go to a new rom without all the junk. I don't use sense, or any of that other fancy stuff running in the background. Is there a rom you would recommend?
#3. In the past, I had a rooted device where I could modify the androidinstall.tar and remove .apk's I didn't want. Is this possible with the current situation on EVO?
#4. With all these roms, do you generally clean wipe everything each time? or do settings / apps / configs remain?
Thanks!!!
I can try to answer your questions.
1. Unless something has come out recently off you are stock and did the update no way to root yet.
2. I just use stock ROM and remove what I don't use.
3. I personally use "root explorer" once you are root you can either unlock nand and use out to remove bloatware or you can adb and remove with your computer.
4. I'm not to sure about those commands, I haven't ever used those.
Look at the sticky in any forum and go to the ROM and Guide link and everything you need to know its there. Keep a close lookout I'm sure somebody will figure out how to root the update soon.
Ifly
EVO fully rooted fresh
ifly4vamerica said:
I can try to answer your questions.
1. Unless something has come out recently off you are stock and did the update no way to root yet.
2. I just use stock ROM and remove what I don't use.
3. I personally use "root explorer" once you are root you can either unlock nand and use out to remove bloatware or you can adb and remove with your computer.
4. I'm not to sure about those commands, I haven't ever used those.
Look at the sticky in any forum and go to the ROM and Guide link and everything you need to know its there. Keep a close lookout I'm sure somebody will figure out how to root the update soon.
Ifly
EVO fully rooted fresh
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Thanks!
Yeah I love root explorer, that's how I used to change things on my old phone. I have it installed but I guess I just have to wait for them to root the update. Maybe I shouldn't have updated
Oh well, knowing XDA they will probably root it by the time I'm finished typing this post. I'll keep reading those stickies... thanks for the answer though!
No problem. Yeah, never install an update till the devs ok it. Good luck.
Ifly
EVO fully rooted fresh
Crap one question I forgot - without being rooted - is there anyway I can do the wireless tethering besides the standard Sprint program?
There is a program on the market called easytether. One is the lite version, which is free. The full version is 10 bucks
Dave2582 said:
There is a program on the market called easytether. One is the lite version, which is free. The full version is 10 bucks
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yeah but it doesnt work as a router which is what I want. I decided to just use the sprint version for 29 a month

Noob root questions

Hey everyone,
I am a super noob....wondering a few things....
1. Is it possible to root my evo without a PC? I do not own one and my phone is my only source of internet.
2. If so how? And is their any detailed how to's for such a thing...step by step.....possibly even noob proof
3. Assuming I can and I get it rooted what would you recommend next? I can maybe use someones comp from work so this question is essential
Sorry if this has been posted before, but forums can be such a chore when on a mobile
Look forward to your help and incite....cptcave
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Hmmm....as far as I know you would need a computer to root fje phone, I haven't seen a way to do it without it. Of course I could be wrong here.
If you could borrow a friends computer you should be fine. Just search the forum and you'll find some great threads on how to root. I did mine after it first came out so im not too familiar with the newer simpler versions on how to do it.
Hope this was of some help.
Sent from my EVO (CM 6.1.1) using XDA App
Yes,J asonK75 is right. As far as I know, you do need a computer to fully root & unlock Nand.
Loads of threads for step by step instructions.
The advantages of rooting are basically that you can install certail apps (Wifi tether, Titanium Backup) which require root access to work. Furthermore, rooting gives you ability to install custom roms and theme your phone.
Hope this answeres all your questions.
Agreed. I could not imagine being on the stock Sense ROM anymore. I love CM ROMs and I like the fact that I can try others like MIUI and Liquid too. Themes are worth it right there, not to mention custom kernals and different transitions. Plus we might have GB before the official release of it!
Sent from my EVO (CM 6.1.1) using XDA App

[Q] I want to root my DHD, can you guys help!?

Hey guys, I am a new Android user, and I need help to root my phone. I have read many threads about rooting DHD, but I am not really sure if I am certain to do it by myself. I also updated my software, it is 1.83.415.4
I am seeking help from anyone that can go through Rooting steps with me. So if you happen to have free time to help me hook up my phone, I would really be glad.
I really wanna root my device, please guys help me.
I would like to add to this question,
I sort of gathered on how to root I first download and install visionary,then temp root and then perm root and then flash a new ROM is this correct?
Another thing I plan to use Cyanogen 7 rc1,would I use all my contacts if I flash a new rom?
I've temp rooted mine but that's as far as I've got. I want to use a different ROM but don't fancy having the wolds most expensive paperweight.
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ColorCodePurple said:
I would like to add to this question,
I sort of gathered on how to root I first download and install visionary,then temp root and then perm root and then flash a new ROM is this correct?
Another thing I plan to use Cyanogen 7 rc1,would I use all my contacts if I flash a new rom?
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Use MyBackup to backup / restore your contacts, although provided google backup is enabled it should take care of them
john_d1974 said:
I've temp rooted mine but that's as far as I've got. I want to use a different ROM but don't fancy having the wolds most expensive paperweight.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
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As long as you carefully follow the instructions, you are very unlikely to end up with a bricked device, flashing radios is the most likely stage to go wrong.
Can i recommend the CyanogenMod Wiki's root and flashing instructions

[Q] new theme and android control by pc

Hello i am Jamie from Holland and i'm new at this forum
A lot o questions i already found on this forum but i have still 2 i can't find. I don't know much about phone's so i hope my questions are not stupid
I have a htc desire with original android 2.2.2 with warrenty, so i DON'T want to root my phone. (or a possebility to update my phone without root or losing apps?)
at first:
Is there a new theme for my phone like android 3 or 4?
seccond:
I want to control my phone from my pc (to use whatsapp also on my pc), i found a lots of programs but they are all for ROOTED phones.
Thanks,
up,...................
You can use an ICS Launcher.
https://market.android.com/details?...sMSwxLDEsIm1vYmkuU3luZGljYXRlQXBwcy5JQ1N2MiJd
Rooting is not risky or anything, just plug you phone in your pc and use unrevoked. Finished in a minute or so and then it's rooted.. But if you don't feel good about it, don't
thanks, i downloaded the unrevoked program, before i root is there a posibitety to backup my phone rom? And if i root, do i loss my warrenty?
and he program said, make shure you DONT have installed htc sync, do the mean on my pc or phone? and can i use it after it is rooted again?
thanks
btw can i also flash my rom with this program?
Read guides before you do anything, they are all over the forums just search.
Also before you do anything write down your software/radio version so you can download appropriate RUU in case you need go back to factory default ROM.
You'll also need to know how to partition SD card. (most ROMs requires it)
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i installed the theme app but now i cant put my old htc sense widgets on my desktop. is there a posibillety to have my old sense widgets? (i looked onb the market but the fake ones aren't so nice as the original)
Not the exact same ones, no.
There are some replicas on the market, especially for the 4x2 clock/weather there is a great replica that looks exactly like the real thing.

[Q] Installing CM7 & unroot

I'm currently attempting to procure a mt3gs on ebay so I can install CM7 and see how it performs possibly to root/install on my current phone.
With this in mind, I have only a vague understanding of the root/flash procedure but here's my question.
After installing CM, can I "unroot" on the CM image and run fine? I'd like to have the CM rom, but I would like the security of not having the phone "rooted".
If I'm off base and misunderstanding, please fill me in.
--D
In order to run or maintain a custom ROM on your phone, it needs to remain rooted. Pretty simple really.
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aaldiar said:
In order to run or maintain a custom ROM on your phone, it needs to remain rooted. Pretty simple really.
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Thanks for the info on that. But with regard to being "rooted" what does that mean for the application security? if an application requests su can it do that without my express permission or is it just granted?
I guess what I'm concerned about (and this is due to lack of understanding of root) is that if I install application X that is legitimate, can application Y which may be, shall we say, questionable, gain access to the file system owned by application X?
If there is a FAQ on this I apologize and would greatly appreciate any link pointing to such.
Google is your friend. With that out of the way, the SU apps will ask you if an app is allowed permissions or not. Many apps require root for various reasons depending on what you plan on doing with the phone. If you are concerned about an apps permissions look them over before downloading. I find that the basic user will most likely only use the root aspect to simply gain access to custom roms. Though with root you can download apps that block ads on your phone and remove unwanted apps as well. There is a lot more root does but those would be basic functions root access can do.
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