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Orange UK Unrevoked....

I have read all the threads, but as ever on the wonderful forum , they go off in all areas .
All I want to do is delete the APK's from the \system\app folder
I have Orange UK ROM ( 2.2) that works fab for me... but I'd like to delete some ofthe rubbish... ( stocks etc )
Will the "Unrevoked" work on my phone.... there seams to be some confussion now as if you need a gold card or not.
I do not want a new image , I do not want to unlock my phone .. I just want to delete the rubbish on the phone.
This also maybe in the wrong area.
Thanks for your help... just a simple yes or no will do .

Download 'AndroidCommander' - it's a Windows-based app that basically uses adb but with a nicer GUI. You can then remove what you don't want quite easily and I don't think you have to be rooted

stunning app.. but YOU NEED ROOT ACCES !!
Ant one else to my orginal question...??

If you need to be rooted to use AndroidCommander (which just uses adb) then you'd need to be rooted to use adb as a standalone - which would lead to a no to your question...
I'm sure you don't need to be rooted to use adb, though

Thanks, but Orange dont want a new rom .. will Unrevoked work with a gold card ... orginal question .....?????????????????????????????

Ah, right!!!
You shouldn't need a gold card to root the phone, best thing is to wait for someone who has a branded Desire and see what they say. Mine was debranded and so didn't need one

i rooted a branded desire with 2.2 froyo on orange using unrevoked, no problems, but if like me you want to remove the orange bloat ware, rooting alone wont let you, but it will let you flash a genetic rom
so in basic, orange froyo can be rooted with unrevoked without goldcard, but wont let you remove orange pish
Mike

Anyone know how to remove the bloatware the easiest way, then?
I'd rather not have to flash a generic rom because I want to use some of Orange's facilities.. just not the game demos and other bloated apps.

You need to root using unrEVOked (which won't change anything bar giving root access) and then use AndroidCommander to remove the gumpf you don't want, leaving what you do!

Yes yes yes , but will this work on an Orange UK Branded phone ? with out killing it ?

Yes it will work on an Orange phone.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Yes it will work otherwise I wouldn't have said to do it!

Once you have rooted with unrevoked you could try using titanium (from the market) to freeze or uninstall system apps. Sometimes its handy to freeze aps rather than uninstall them. Its less hassle than adb/adb commander but you may need the pay version of titanium.

I get this :
The hbbot drivers worked and win xp sees phone correctly .
I then ran reflash.exe, came up after 5 mins Failed to flash recovery image .
All I want is the ROOT permisions , not to put a new rom on it…

[Q] Newbie rooting woes

Hey guys,
Firstly, sorry if I'm not using the correct terminology because I'm still quite unfamiliar with it.
Anyway, I just got my Desire Z about a week ago and am planning to root it so that I can access paid apps via Market Enabler.
I've read through all the guides on how to root and seems simple enough. However, I have a few questions regarding the default HTC applications.
1: Will I be able to continue using and updating the HTC apps (like HTC Locations, HTC Camera or HTC Car Dock) that came along with it after rooting?
2: Is is possible to keep the default SenseUI after rooting instead of getting a custom ROM that looks like SenseUI?
3: Will my phone stop working with htcsense.com after rooting?
4: Will I require a custom ROM installed into it after rooting, or can I just reuse the same default HTC ROM?
Basically, I love my phone and don't want to change anything except getting to access paid apps from Android Market. To do so, I would need to have Market Enabler working, which needs me to have Superuser permissions. Hence, why I need to root it.
Thanks!

scnix said:
Hey guys,
Firstly, sorry if I'm not using the correct terminology because I'm still quite unfamiliar with it.
Anyway, I just got my Desire Z about a week ago and am planning to root it so that I can access paid apps via Market Enabler.
I've read through all the guides on how to root and seems simple enough. However, I have a few questions regarding the default HTC applications.
1: Will I be able to continue using and updating the HTC apps (like HTC Locations, HTC Camera or HTC Car Dock) that came along with it after rooting?
2: Is is possible to keep the default SenseUI after rooting instead of getting a custom ROM that looks like SenseUI?
3: Will my phone stop working with htcsense.com after rooting?
4: Will I require a custom ROM installed into it after rooting, or can I just reuse the same default HTC ROM?
Basically, I love my phone and don't want to change anything except getting to access paid apps from Android Market. To do so, I would need to have Market Enabler working, which needs me to have Superuser permissions. Hence, why I need to root it.
Thanks!
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Rooting is just rooting; nothing will change other than your ability to do whatever you want to/with your device. Just rooting won't change anything other than your ability to install apps which require root access.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Oh, so I suppose I was looking at the wrong rooting options then. The ones I've been looking at seems to flash the phone as well (unrevoked).
Guess I'll need to find a tutorial to just root the phone. Thanks!

scnix said:
Oh, so I suppose I was looking at the wrong rooting options then. The ones I've been looking at seems to flash the phone as well (unrevoked).
Guess I'll need to find a tutorial to just root the phone. Thanks!
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Use the guide in the Wiki here at XDA, http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

[Q] rooting, I really...

Hi, I have the desire, and well I'm board with it, I want to mess around with different roms like miui, gingerbread extra. But I don't understand, please could someone help me with some of my questions? Thank :
1) What are the chances of breaking it through rooting, and what could happen, and would should you do it it does happen?
2) what does bricked mean, and is there away of unbricking?
1) what do you do if a bad rom breaks?
1.5) what are the chances of things going wrong?
2) Can you have more than one rom installed at a time, and switch between them, a bit like you can with launchers, and uses the same apps and data on those roms?
2.5) Is unrevoked the best way to root?
3) I you can have more than one rom, can you have a gingerbread rom, side loaded with a froyo from?
4) How do you switch between the roms?
5)Does rooting affect battery life?
6) Using unrevoked, is there anyway to unroot?
7) where do you find roms, and does the rom manager in the market allow you to install them without flashing?
8)Is there a good htc sense hd or gingerbread rom that works well?
9) With different roms increase the speed of the device, like the n1 is faster than the desire, yet they have the same hardware?
I know that a lot of questions but i am really nervousness about this and I can't seem to find todate answerers to these questions. If someone could help me with these questions I would be very great full, as I want to get more our of my device. Thanks ( I know there are a lot of rooting threads, but I really need to find out as much as i can before I undergo this, I love my desire too much to allow it to break when there was something that i could have done)

There is a remote chance (0.00000001%) of anything going wrong as long as you follow the steps to the rooting process and S-Off. If you become bricked then there is a topic on how to unbrick.
Easiest and best way to root is to using unrevoked 3.32. Make sure you download the HBoot drivers from their website. After rooting, it is also good to make your device S-Off'd. Your able to flash HBoot templates to change partition sizes and also change the splash and remove system apps and so on.
You can only have 1 rom installed at a time. You have to flash roms as well, that's how you install them and other zip files through the recovery. If a rom breaks, you can just flash it again. Installing a rom takes 5 mins, if that really.
You find roms in the Android Dev section. You can use Rom Manager but you have to pay or something.
You can have a fast rom or a "slower" rom. It depends on how it's been built and stuff but also the kernel can help to speed things up. (Speed isn't always the answer). There is no best or crappiest rom either. It's best to test many out for yourself.
Battery life again depends on the rom and the kernel.
Things To Download
To root a device
To S-Off your device
Roms and alsort of other nice things
Hope this helps you out.

Thanks very much , but do you need to install "S-Off" as I don't quite understand what it does, and which one to download and how to install it. Thanks

You don't need to install S-Off after a root. S-Off just allows you to do more things like uninstall system apps, change the splash screen, change the HBoot (not quite sure what else). If your not going to be doing them sort of things then stay away from it.
When you root, the unrevoked utility roots it and changes the recovery to ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8. That recovery allows you to boot into it and install roms through it. It has a menu and you use your optical tracker to navigate through them. That is how you install different roms.
With the roms, you need to see which one you like. I've been through almost all of them and I have one I stick to now. I can't say which is the best, that's for you to decide. The Gingerbread roms are Android 2.3 and I THINK, emphasis on the THINK, that the rest of the roms are Android 2.2.
I think at first your like, oh what if I mess things up and stuff but you won't if you follow instructions. When I first did it, I completely messed up and couldn't even boot into a rom at all and was wondering how to sort it out. I got there in the end but still. I also forgot to mention, if you want the stock rom back, you can install one of the RUU's. It will wipe everything and you will have to root again, but you will have stock.

Thanks very much , when change roms will you lose all of your apps, and data?

Yes. When your changing roms, you have to erase all data. It is a must and everything will go, apps, user data including texts and contacts, EVERYTHING!!!.

Thanks so much for all your help, i'm going to do it now, and use cyanogen mod 7 or 6.x. Thanks again

No worries. If you get stuck, just message me or something.

Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b, it shouldn't be recommended to anyone who:
1. Doesn't know what it is
2. Doesn't actually need it
Concentrate on rooting and running a custom ROM first

Not actually true. When I S-Off'd my Desire, I didn't have a bloody clue, other than it disables all security, what it was. You eventually learn things like I did and read a little more. S-Off is a great tool to have on your phone because it gives you all the more freedom to do what ever you want with your device. I will say for all the "n00bs" out there that if you are S-Off'ing then please read it all carefully, unlike me because I could have messed it all up.

You were lucky - better to learn first, do second

I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Thanks for all you help, I have rooted and now have a custom rom (cm 6.1). Thanks

EddyOS said:
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b
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I would add that if you're a n00b, don't even try to get your device rooted!

Lothaen said:
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I would ask if that's even possbile. Apparently it is.

Delete the efs storage without a backup... doh
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.

stringent said:
I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
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Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far

GoogleJelly said:
Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
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bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'

Lothaen said:
bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
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Odd, I don't have that, I had it in the Sense UI, not on the stock Ginger Villain ROM, unless I am missing something ...

[Q] Several questions about rooting

First off, yep, I used the search but nothing did quite match the question I have...
Now, one of the main reasons I want to root my phone for, is, that I don't have (even nearly) enough space for the apps I want to use.
1. I saw a ROM floating around here which is enabling the complete installation of applications to the sd card, is this possible with every ROM or just with this specific one?
And:
2 .On the current stock ROM there already is an App2SD function, but I haven't got enough space anyway, does this improve with root access?
The second reason I want to root my Desire is, that I'd like to have 2.3 instead of 2.2, because of some features that were added.
One, actually minor but anyway, more reason for rooting for me is, that I can have a different theme (I'm getting bored of the stock one...)
3. Are this and the first one enough reasons to root your phone? Is it worth it?
Then, some more general questions about rooting:
4. I saw a few tutorials out there, which are "noob proved", is it really that simple? (I'm not complete idiot in terms of technical things, but I haven't got much expirience with android...)
5. I also saw that it is possible to "brick" your device, does this just happen when you do something completly wrong, or is it just random? How "high" is the chance of bricking your device?
6. After you rooted your device, can you "switch" ROMs quite easily or is it a kind of harder process each time?
7. Im not soo familiar with android, as I mentioned before, so, does android write the SMS and so on to the SIM card or are they saved internal? Are they getting lost while rooting?
And now over to some more personal questions:
8. What application or advantage did you root your phone for?
9. Which root apps are really making it worth rooting?
I'd be really thankfull if you could help me with this, and I appreciate each answer!
Best regards
P.S.: Sorry for my kinda bad english, but I'm not quite often using it....

1. You are talking about a feature named a2sd. If a rom supports it, it will be listed in its feature list. To use it, you have to follow the given instructions for partitioning sd card for a2sd in the roms corresponding thread.
2. That's not a2sd, it's the "froyo-style app2sd". The difference is, with the froyo one you can only move the application to sd card if the developer programmed the app for it. With a2sd, all apps you install will be automatically moved to a special partition on your sd card, namely sd-ext. You don't have and must not do anything.
You can already download gingerbread from htcdev.com:
http://htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
3. Rooting gives you many advantages. Most important things are you can backup your apps/settings and your rom, and you can flash custom roms.
4. Of course they are. That's why they named like this.
5. If you follow all guides carefully and don't do something silly, imho the chance the phone bricks is not higher than an untouched stops working.
6. It's very easy. You do it from recovery, where you can backup your previous rom.
7. Yep, but you have to it with an extra program like sms backup & restore:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&feature=search_result
8. Flash custom roms, backup and restore apps/rom -> better and so awesome desire experience.
9. Most important one is imho titanium backup:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result

i recently rooted and then unrooted and then rooted and s-off my desire trust me reading the instructions makes its sound more difficult than it is. just read carefully dont take shortcuts and ull be ok.
i rooted as i ran low on space also i like the fact i can delete system apps as i dnt use them.
you can use themes.
there are roms with data2sd or data2whatever, better than app2sd.
just read thru ask some questions of people.they will help u out. boobkmark the pages u want to use i always forget and then can never find the advice again!!!
once ur rooted used unrevoked for that. you can swap roms like there ur socks!! i and many others on here im sure swapped roms hourly let alone daily , u need to see which one fits u the best.
this is just what i no from my very limited experience others on here are much more in the know!
good luck

Use this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
If you follow it exactly you should not brick your phone
Switching roms is easy as long as you read the requirements for each rom, which are usually found within the first two posts on the rom thread
If you use cyanogenmod rom you can use the s2e app from market to move apps to your sd card, imho this is a very easy way to implement app2sd, I'm using this, I have heaps of apps installed and still have plenty of space left
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App

Read some noob guides you need more knowledge

Thank you very much for the answers!
I downloaded all of the files needed and backed up SMS and contact information and tomorrow I'll root my phone (got more time and patience....).
Just one more quick question: I bought my phone unbranded (on Amazon), so I don't need to make a "gold card", am I right?

Nascor said:
Thank you very much for the answers!
I downloaded all of the files needed and backed up SMS and contact information and tomorrow I'll root my phone (got more time and patience....).
Just one more quick question: I bought my phone unbranded (on Amazon), so I don't need to make a "gold card", am I right?
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You are right. But if I were you, I would made one even so, just in case.

[Q] HELP: Can i upgrade my HTC Desire Z with 2.3.3 to the latest ICS and sense?

Hi Experts of the forum.
I have a HTC Desire Z with android 2.3.3 and Sense 2.1
Currently I am having some problem with the reloading of the home screen almost everytime i go into a full page app and exit.
It is quite irritating.
I was told that this is caused by Sense.
But anyway i was wondering if it is possible to root the phone now and upgrade to the new ICS version as well as the latest Sense that HTC provides.
As much as i hate the reloading problem that sense is causing, i still like their UI, and their new UI as well, and i hate it that HTC is not going to upgrade it for Desire Z.
Anyone can advise on how to upgrade by root or something.
I can't seem to find a way to root or upgrade.
BTW, i read somewhere after rooting we can also overclock the phone, but is it a good idea to do so, will it cause any problem and will it like kill the battery life very fast?
Please help.
Thanks.

Not at a computer so I don't have the links handy. Check the thread in development on rooting
Only folow the wiki ie don't use visionary and don't simple try the htc hboot unlock.
Once you have the right link to downgrade, root and flash custom recovery you can install lots of roms
Some better than others but you will easily find one better than your stock rom, even if you love the sense ui
You can find many super fast sense roms with many nice extras added.
And yes overclocking is plenty safe so long as you don't attempt something crazy like 2ghz but even if you did
The chance of perment damange is low. As far as battery life many custom roms may increase your battery life
Over a stock rom even with overclocking. I am a heavy user and tend to get close to 24hrs on most roms between
Charges, and this is with slight overclocking (1-1.5 depending on current rom and such)
Good luck and if you have any issues use the search option first ask question if your still confused
There is a great community on xda ready to help
Sent from my M723-GDX using xda premium

thanks for the advice, but just to check, if i root and change rom, will it delete all my apps and data? is it possible to save all my data and apps data?

stevedino87 said:
thanks for the advice, but just to check, if i root and change rom, will it delete all my apps and data? is it possible to save all my data and apps data?
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Yes, it will. You can easily reinstall the apps, but the problem is the app data. If you are rooted then you can use a tool like Titanium Backup to backup all the app data. But if you are on 2.3.3 and not currently rooted, that won't work for you, since you have to downgrade as part of the rooting process (thereby losing all your app data). It'll be fine going forward once you are rooted, but the problem is with your current data.
For stuff like SMS, there are various backup utilities on the Play Store where you can back those up without requiring root.
How much stuff do you have (in terms of app data) that is going to be a problem if you lost it ?
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

Thanks for the advice, btw which forum should i start with? any recommendation which rom i should use?

Look up the wiki - google search "downgrade and root htc g2" I'm sure that would be one of the first results, again I'm not by a computer so I don't have a link handy
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