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Hello to all.
I have had my G2 for a month now.
This is my first android.
I was wondering if maybe someone could please clarify some questions I have about Rooting?
I apologize in advance for any questions I may ask that makes you say"Are you effing kidding me?!?!"
1. Is rooting pretty much clearing off your phone and installing a whole new software??
2. If i ever want to come back to stock tmobile...am I able to? (will I even want to??) lol
3. I know gingerbread is coming...how do those updates work on a rooted phone?
4. What precautions should I take when rooting my g2?
5. What is cyanogenmod?...
Sorry for asking these "obvious" questions, but I am trying to understand everything before I try to root my device.
Thank you to all!

MrTeddyChills said:
Hello to all.
I have had my G2 for a month now.
This is my first android.
I was wondering if maybe someone could please clarify some questions I have about Rooting?
I apologize in advance for any questions I may ask that makes you say"Are you effing kidding me?!?!"
1. Is rooting pretty much clearing off your phone and installing a whole new software??
2. If i ever want to come back to stock tmobile...am I able to? (will I even want to??) lol
3. I know gingerbread is coming...how do those updates work on a rooted phone?
4. What precautions should I take when rooting my g2?
5. What is cyanogenmod?...
Sorry for asking these "obvious" questions, but I am trying to understand everything before I try to root my device.
Thank you to all!
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1. rooting makes it possible to flash new roms (which do require you to wipe your system, but once rooted use titanium backup, free app, to back up ur apps on the sdcard)
2. yes there are a few threads on here that walk you through on how to turn security on and install a stock rom
3.as far as i can tell you still get the t-mobile updates sent, and developers here take the new software and make it available to run on our devices.
4. Make sure your device is charged and follow EACH STEP in ORDER and copy the commands CORRECTLY.
5. "CyanogenMod is a free, community built distribution of Android 2.2 (Froyo) which greatly extends the capabilities of your phone." so in short they develop software.

I'd like to add that you will get updates a LOT faster with a rooted phone vs stock OTAs
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shadyx513 said:
1. rooting makes it possible to flash new roms (which do require you to wipe your system, but once rooted use titanium backup, free app, to back up ur apps on the sdcard)
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Sorry, that's not right. To the OP - Rooting gives you access to the "root" user on the phone, which allows more powerful customisations and allows certain apps to run (those which require root).
S-OFF (security off) is the thing that allows you to flash custom ROMs. You could root and not touch S-OFF, or you could both root and S-OFF.
Neither of these require you to wipe the phone. But you need to be very careful in understanding what you're doing when you do either of these steps.

How to put cyanogen with visionary?

Hi, I'm sorta a noob with rooting so bare with me. First, what version of visionary should I use to root my device? Will it work after the ota update? What are the chances of visionary bricking my phone or doing anything that would make my phone unusable? Will it put SU on my phone? And now for the main question, how will I get cyanogen on my g2? Thanks for any help!
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As far as i know visionary is not gonna brick your phone ,in regard to changing your rom you also need to s/off your phone, and to do that you need to setup ADB on your computer i suggest you read this posts first ,you will find all the answers you are after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835777
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
After you root and s-off your phone you need to setup rom manager so you will get clockworkmod recovery and you can boot in to that and flash a new rom or kernel through there.
and i am not sure about the question you had about the update.
yes you will get su after rooting.

Hwoarang747 said:
Hi, I'm sorta a noob with rooting so bare with me. First, what version of visionary should I use to root my device? Will it work after the ota update? What are the chances of visionary bricking my phone or doing anything that would make my phone unusable? Will it put SU on my phone? And now for the main question, how will I get cyanogen on my g2? Thanks for any help!
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Ok, first there are already many threads on this subject, so next time you should try a search first,
for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850141
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882546
Next the following links will help walk you thru rooting your phone using visionary r14. I have not had any problems with it, many people have rooted this way. If something goes wrong it is usually operator error. This method is for after the OTA. All needed files and links are in the video instructions.
Visionary has bricked phones before when not properly used, the videos show how to use it properly, use all the same settings in the videos.
This is the visionary method, but works perfectly when done correctly..
No adb needed.
Follow the videos to a "T", remove visionary and superusers from you phone if you already have them installed from a previous temp root before following the videos, start fresh, follow the videos starting with temp root then onto perm root then onto flashing a rom. Do everything just like the videos start to finish and you should have no problems.
Temp root first:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
Then perm root
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Then flash a rom
http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Remember don't assume you know how to temp root properly, follow all three videos start to finish and you should have no problems
Also the video "Load a custom rom" will give you a link to flash your first rom. There are a couple of choices to choose from.
Good Luck.
Editlease see post #32 in this thread for a testimony from someone who just followed the videos and rooted his phone.

Thanks soooo much!!! I have another question, how will I be able to get gingerbread after rooting? Or should I wait? Do I need to wipe my phhone? And what if I just want vanilla android with su and cyanogen?
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Hwoarang747 said:
Thanks soooo much!!! I have another question, how will I be able to get gingerbread after rooting? Or should I wait? Do I need to wipe my phhone? And what if I just want vanilla android with su and cyanogen?
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Everyones still waiting on gingerbread, but it looks like Cyanogen is in the lead for releasing it.
Any time you flash a new rom you need to wipe data/cache in recovery. Updates to the same rom a wipe is not needed.
As far as what you want in a rom, my suggestion is to start flashing diffrent roms and give them a try. I thought I didnt like sense but I am currently running a sense rom (Virtuous). So you dont know till you try.

1) Don't use Visionary. People have had brick after brick when using it. Use the rage method.
2) There's a beta version of CM7.0.0 out. The devs are still working out the bugs in it.
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blackknightavalon said:
1) Don't use Visionary. People have had brick after brick when using it. Use the rage method.
2) There's a beta version of CM7.0.0 out. The devs are still working out the bugs in it.
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1)Show me one brick from someone following the videos I posted and Ill take the links down. Yes a lot of people have bricked using visionary, but thats because they assumed they knew what they were doing when in fact they did not. Visionary causes bricks when not properly used, the videos shows how to use it properly. You must follow all the steps from start to finish including the temp root settings they use in the videos.
2)and yes there is a beta version of gingerbread out CM7 but Cyanogen did not officially release this version, and there are so many bugs in it I hardly think a noob needs to flash CM 7.0.0.

What exactly its the range method?
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Hwoarang747 said:
What exactly its the range method?
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Its Rage method and heres a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228&highlight=rage
I recommend you read this thread and make informed desicions, if you know how to use ADB, then this is another method. But if you dont the method I posted above is your other option, it doesn't require the use of ADB.
As far as ADB goes this is something I highly recommend learning, but we all know some people just dont get it. It took me a lot of reading and watching videos to understand ADB. Now that I know how to use ADB its pretty simple, but I remember when I first started with rooting ADB was like reading greek. But I really cant stress enough the importance of learning ADB.

Hahah sorry, i was using swype. And yeah, so what do you recomend, cause i really dont wanna brick my phone for its fairly new.

Oh, and another thing, if i root with visionary or rage, that only gives me root access. But if i flash a rom then i will also have cyanogen? And i was reading, since i wanna oc, whats this kernel stuff? Please forgive my noobish ways

Hwoarang747 said:
Hahah sorry, i was using swype. And yeah, so what do you recomend, cause i really dont wanna brick my phone for its fairly new.
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I used the videos to root my G2, there have been a lot of bricks using Visionary but I have yet to see anyone say they followed the videos to the "T" and it bricked there phone. As for the Rage method, there have been almost no reports of bricks from this method, but I have seen a few bootloops (stuck on the HTC screen). It requires using ADB, so if your ok with ADB use the Rage method, if not, you'll have to weigh the risks based on your own ability. My suggestion, watch the videos, all of them and if its something within your skill range go for it.

Hwoarang747 said:
Oh, and another thing, if i root with visionary or rage, that only gives me root access. But if i flash a rom then i will also have cyanogen? And i was reading, since i wanna oc, whats this kernel stuff? Please forgive my noobish ways
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Ok, get rooted first then you can worry about kernels, I believe Cyanogen 6.1.1 already comes with an overclocked kernel up to 1.42GHz. So all you have to do is flash CM 6.1.1 his latest release, then down load a cpu controlling app from the market like setcpu(which I use) or cputuner(free) and set the parameters you want your cpu to run at.

Thanks, but a boot loop is fixable right?
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It usualy is you can boot in to recovery and wipe and flash another kernal or rom. Just have a look at the links that I posted ,you will get all the answers.
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Hwoarang747 said:
Thanks, but a boot loop is fixable right?
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Not always hopefully if this happens you have gotten far enough along to put a recovery on your phone, or sometime you can stock recovery factory reset but if those options arn't there guess what you would have to have AndriodSDk installed on your computer with ADB, but you would have to do everything in fastboot mode which is giving commands from your computer to you phone. So it wouldn't be adb because you have to be booted into Andriod to use it, it would be fastboot and run commands similar to ADB, so for this purpose you would have to know how to use ADB. And even then no guarantees. So if you are looking for a guarantee you wont brick your phone there are none, and I wont give you one, these methods have been proven to work if you follow them exactly, mess up and you have a brick.
I know most people dont have $500+ laying around and I know I dont but for me the rewards far outweighed the risk. I just got a pm from another member that followed the videos and guess what he is rooted, he did it today. I asked him to post in this thread with his success story, so hopefully he will.
Here is a quote from him from my PM "it worked! i got so frustrated with adb, i gave it a shot and success!"
Edit: He just posted success his user name is robot_agenda and his post is #32 in this thread.

wait so what did he give a shot? the gfree method?

Hwoarang747 said:
wait so what did he give a shot? the gfree method?
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He rooted his phone with visionary following the videos I posted.

and also, have you heard of the issue with visionary where the phone boots into recovery when being charged?

Hwoarang747 said:
and also, have you heard of the issue with visionary where the phone boots into recovery when being charged?
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That has nothing to do with visionary, thats has to do with ClockworkMod recovery, if your phone is powered off and you plug it in to charge it boots into recovery, if you want root you have to deal with this issue untill they fix the bug in clockworkmod recovery. Also the phone shuts off fine unless its pluged in. Everyone with a htc vision phone who is rooted has this issue. as for me I charge my phone while it on so it doesn't bother me.
heres a link to the problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884516

[Q] Noobie new to rooting

hey guys, im new to the forums and a recent convert from IOS
now i have a desire hd software build no 1.32.707.5
what would the best way going about rooting this be?
the phone is great but has a lot of bloatware i want to get rid of asap
not sure bout putting a new rom on yet
ive been tryin to read up as best as possible but getting conflicting reports from every thread i seem to open
with this version would i have to downgrade before i root?
can anyone point me to a straightforward huide to rooting and the software i would need?
thanks a mil

Hi and welcome to xda.
Your software version is good for rooting, no need to downgrade.
To root you should follow THIS guide as it contains everything you need to do.
Just follow the guide until you achieve ENG S-OFF.

thanks a million
will try it out this afternoon!!

Good luck! You won't regret it!

ok guys
i was sucessful in rooting my DHD
now what course of action could i take from here?
whats would be good apps to install now and how do i go about removing the more stubborn apps i dont want?
also what would be a good rom to install at this point if i so choose without having to do a radio flash

Downgrade or not?
There seems to be a lot of conflicting advice about whether downgrading from is necessary. Here they say not, other guides says its necessary to shift down to 1.32.
Is it necessary or not? Jhonnieblue did you downgrade?

Try Cyanogenmod7-RC2
jhonnieblue said:
ok guys
i was sucessful in rooting my DHD
now what course of action could i take from here?
also what would be a good rom to install at this point if i so choose without having to do a radio flash
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Radio is separated by ROM, you can try later new radios, to test how much your "new" phone juices in your specific mobile carrier.
In my case, I installed CM7-RC2 ROM and it works just fine with 26.04.03.30 radio on Orange Romania. Keep in mind that you must have S-OFF enabled, otherwise you can't revert to an old radio. And make sure you have the right radio for your device or you will turn it into a brick
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whats would be good apps to install now and how do i go about removing the more stubborn apps i dont want?
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If you choose CyanogenMod 7-RC2 first, install ROM Manager. Since I can't post links for the moment, try to google for the full guide of rooting DHD on wikipedia for the official steps (or find the same link on cyanogenmod official site)
Then Google Apps (or gapps), the latest version for your device.
Then any app from the market, for me the first was Market Enabler, since in Romania Android Market was not available at the time. And still it is...unfortunately.

[Q] Rookie rooter looking for best way to root Evo for the first time.

Hi I am going to finally try to root my Evo 4g but I really don't want to brick phone. I have read where rooting is easier than ever and I also would like to install custom rom. Could someone with exp. rooting evo recently give me a short tutorial or just point me to a link on easiest way to root with all steps from very first step needed? Should I use Unrevoked or other tool? I know that there is several threads but thats the problem don't know which to use. Thanks or any help rooting and installing custom rom for the first time on my Android phone!

Yea use unrevoked its the easiest and best way to go. Then I would flash cyanogenmod7.
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i second that
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youtube unrevoked, and search for the video made by user named greedy........ most of my friends who have evos have watched it and say its very clear on what you need to do, it will be easier than having use trying to explain this to you with words

savannahmick said:
Hi I am going to finally try to root my Evo 4g but I really don't want to brick phone. I have read where rooting is easier than ever and I also would like to install custom rom. Could someone with exp. rooting evo recently give me a short tutorial or just point me to a link on easiest way to root with all steps from very first step needed? Should I use Unrevoked or other tool? I know that there is several threads but thats the problem don't know which to use. Thanks or any help rooting and installing custom rom for the first time on my Android phone!
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Search unrevoked,lots of written and video tuts out there,and a little mikfroyo 4.5,or 4.6,Gingersense,mikz.........and a netarchy kernel(Read alil about custom kernels and you're good)

Quick and easy is ok, but I recommend the below root method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045&highlight=root
You will learn a little about your device, and basic understanding of what you are actually doing to obtain root user access.
After this, most general tasks like backing up, flashing ROMs, and simple hacks will be a cake walk.
Have fun, and good luck either way.

I used the unrevoked method as well. SOOOO easy. make sure you uninstall HTC sync. Now if I could just figure out how to upload cyanogen7. ( I'm a noob too)

[Q]What to do before and after root..?

Hello frnds,I recently bought Galaxy y which is good and awesome. I came to know that by rooting we can access more things which we do not with unroot device. I am ready to do root but i want to know what to do before and after rooting, backup, custom rom and some other things and how to do those things. Please frnds help me out because i am going to root my device.
Thanks & Regards
R.Kishore

rooting is verry easy just follow the simple steps. please dont be nervous. just relax what you are doing on your phone.

kishore55 said:
Hello frnds,I recently bought Galaxy y which is good and awesome. I came to know that by rooting we can access more things which we do not with unroot device. I am ready to do root but i want to know what to do before and after rooting, backup, custom rom and some other things and how to do those things. Please frnds help me out because i am going to root my device.
Thanks & Regards
R.Kishore
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ignore if u did it.
its easy to get ur answer if u just google it,cos many sites are offering that rooting info/stuff.

Check here on how to root your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20033919&postcount=1
And don't be nervous … rooting feels like a big step the first time you have an android phone. But it's not. The longer you own the phone, the more you will learn and the more you will want to try out with it. There will be days when you will flash and completely set up about 10 different ROMs. There will be days when you will brick your phone. Those days are still rather far away for you.
No need to do anything before and after rooting. It's so small of a change that you will hardly even notice it.
Welcome to the forums, have fun and good luck with rooting!

Thanks very much to all for ur responses...
Yeah i referd XDA and rooting is easy but my request is what to do before we do root like backup or something and after rooting what the thing we shud to first like custom rom creations..something like that...

kishore55 said:
Thanks very much to all for ur responses...
Yeah i referd XDA and rooting is easy but my request is what to do before we do root like backup or something and after rooting what the thing we shud to first like custom rom creations..something like that...
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you dont have to create custom roms...............you just download and install the created roms by different devs....from the development.....and before rooting backup your current stock rom through CWM Recovery...........

rohit589769 said:
you dont have to create custom roms...............you just download and install the created roms by different devs....from the development.....and before rooting backup your current stock rom through CWM Recovery...........
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is it possible to use CWM backup even phone is not rooted?
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ofc it is, in recovery mode it doesn't matter if you are root or not.
And you don't have to so anything before and after rooting, it can easily be reverted and everything will stay the same.
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Ok frnds atlast i rooted my device..hmm.....But
Now what to do,...i have some requests please clear them..[ iam newbie dnt know anything so my requests will be basic for you but plz clear them]...
1..What the formost thing to do after rooting...and how to do..?
2..Which is the best way to backup my existing rom, so that if anything happens i can get back to last known gud config.
3..What are the application which can make my device a super device after rooting..[like playing hd games, changing looks, performance boost..etc]...
4...Custom Rom and kernal, i dnt know anything about these things but very often u people refer and is these things are available for Galaxy y, if s then how to do..
Thanks in advance...