Hai Guise!
Back a little while ago the G2/Vision thread (before Desire Z was merged) had a thread about overclocking made by a user named Flippy. I followed it for a while because it was getting insanely out of control and awesome. I had used 1.9Ghz as my max oc for a while and It was great. Now I'm on 1.8Ghz again because the 1.9Ghz kernel was removed later on and replaced with the 1.8Ghz update zip. (For some reason doesn't work for me so I had to fastboot it)
So the reason I made this thread is because I would like to have the 2.0Ghz kernel. I know it's possible and has been done already. I've looked into compiling my own but apparently I need linux to compile it and I'm not fond of installing VM's on my old computer that will barely run as it is.
Now I ask of you, if anyone who is kind enough to possibly please compile a 2.0Ghz zimage for me, I would be greatly in your debt and appreciate it much so! I understand that it is my fault if I mess up my device and only I am held responsible.
Thank you in advanced to anyone kind enough to offer their services.
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Hai Guise!
Back a little while ago the G2/Vision thread (before Desire Z was merged) had a thread about overclocking made by a user named Flippy. I followed it for a while because it was getting insanely out of control and awesome. I had used 1.9Ghz as my max oc for a while and It was great. Now I'm on 1.8Ghz again because the 1.9Ghz kernel was removed later on and replaced with the 1.8Ghz update zip. (For some reason doesn't work for me so I had to fastboot it)
So the reason I made this thread is because I would like to have the 2.0Ghz kernel. I know it's possible and has been done already. I've looked into compiling my own but apparently I need linux to compile it and I'm not fond of installing VM's on my old computer that will barely run as it is.
Now I ask of you, if anyone who is kind enough to possibly please compile a 2.0Ghz zimage for me, I would be greatly in your debt and appreciate it much so! I understand that it is my fault if I mess up my device and only I am held responsible.
Thank you in advanced to anyone kind enough to offer their services.
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Why do you need to overclock that high? I've used the 1.8Ghz and found that to.be overkill. I'm running at about 1ghz at that seems ample.
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cjward23 said:
Why do you need to overclock that high? I've used the 1.8Ghz and found that to.be overkill. I'm running at about 1ghz at that seems ample.
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Wouldn't that fry your phone without any active cooling system or something? Sounds unnecessarily risky..
dietotherhythm said:
Hai Guise!
Back a little while ago the G2/Vision thread (before Desire Z was merged) had a thread about overclocking made by a user named Flippy. I followed it for a while because it was getting insanely out of control and awesome. I had used 1.9Ghz as my max oc for a while and It was great. Now I'm on 1.8Ghz again because the 1.9Ghz kernel was removed later on and replaced with the 1.8Ghz update zip. (For some reason doesn't work for me so I had to fastboot it)
So the reason I made this thread is because I would like to have the 2.0Ghz kernel. I know it's possible and has been done already. I've looked into compiling my own but apparently I need linux to compile it and I'm not fond of installing VM's on my old computer that will barely run as it is.
Now I ask of you, if anyone who is kind enough to possibly please compile a 2.0Ghz zimage for me, I would be greatly in your debt and appreciate it much so! I understand that it is my fault if I mess up my device and only I am held responsible.
Thank you in advanced to anyone kind enough to offer their services.
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You don't need a VM. You need to wipe the garbage off and install linux on the "bare metal".
While it would be *neat* to oc this phone to 2GHz - just because. It would be beyond useless and I can just see some noob burning down their parents house or possibly starting a nuclear war with Russia by accident. Lets not forget your carrier reporting you to the CIA for having a nuclear reactor in your phone.
Look, with no active cooling it's just downright stupid to go that high. However being the genius' that we are I'm sure somebody could devise a method to install a mini fan or some liquid cooling on this phone. But then you may need that nuclear reactor to power all that stuff. Haven't we already set a guiness world record at 1.8GHz on a production phone anyway? Maybe we need to tell them so we can make it in the book
My phone froze at 2Ghz... I went in for 2.2Ghz at first but it froze after a couple seconds
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My phone froze at 2Ghz... I went in for 2.2Ghz at first but it froze after a couple seconds
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LOL, it didn't make you go back in time or some ****?
The 1.9Ghz kernel caused my phone to crash. 2.0 would burn your phone's processor out. Just use the 1.8Ghz kernel and have the profiles on SetCPU set to the lowest speeds when the display's off.
Your phone may not actually run stable at 2GHz. Mine doesn't run stable past 1.6GHz, and that runs psx4droid *perfectly*, especially with the optimization they've done in the app recently.
Also, even with setCPU profiles, battery drain when you ARE running that high is a beeeotch.
Honestly, it's not really for OCing that high, but rather the look at what I can do I had a friend just ask be how high I can OC my phone and at 1.5GHz he's like woah :O His face at 2GHz would have been like
I previously used Flippy's kernel on my G2 and did OC it to 1.8 GHz, and got a Quadrant score of 3037. It was cool to see how fast my phone could actually get, but I'm more than comfortable with OC'ing it to 1.4 GHz. Anything more than that seems to be unnecessary to me, but that's just my opinion. Last thing I want is to have my G2 melt while it's in the pocket of my pants.
Try the .ko module and overclock that way
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Try the .ko module and overclock that way
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Oh yeah totally forgot that existed. Thank you for the useful response.
tried the module but the phone freezes after doing anything above 1.4ghz
I believe it needs voltage tweaking which I don't know how to go about sooo... yeah
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My phone froze at 2Ghz... I went in for 2.2Ghz at first but it froze after a couple seconds
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LOL!! Froze? Or more like "fried"!! Hehe
Doesn't it happen to you guys that when running @1.5Ghz u get many FC from some games? Running excessive OC might stop your phone from working.
Why do you need 2Ghz?!
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LOL!! Froze? Or more like "fried"!! Hehe
Doesn't it happen to you guys that when running @1.5Ghz u get many FC from some games? Running excessive OC might stop your phone from working.
Why do you need 2Ghz?!
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Nope, not for me anyway. I know different HW revisions and such have an effect on how high you can oc but my phone doesn't skip a beat at 1.8GHZ. I'm sure I could go to 2GHZ or a bit higher but unless I'm trying to emulate a PS3, I don't see the purpose - aside from maybe setting a record.
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Nope, not for me anyway. I know different HW revisions and such have an effect on how high you can oc but my phone doesn't skip a beat at 1.8GHZ. I'm sure I could go to 2GHZ or a bit higher but unless I'm trying to emulate a PS3, I don't see the purpose - aside from maybe setting a record.
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Same. I can do 1.8 all day if I keep near a charger. Anything over 1.3 will drain my battery like a monster though.
I keep at 1.2 regularly and only go higher for games.
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LOL!! Froze? Or more like "fried"!! Hehe
Doesn't it happen to you guys that when running @1.5Ghz u get many FC from some games? Running excessive OC might stop your phone from working.
Why do you need 2Ghz?!
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I can jog 1.8 and 1.9Ghz for a day without even reaching a dangerous temperature.
Can I get some supportive ideas and less herp derp personal opinions?
Highest Ive pushed mine is 1.5ghz. No need to go any further, Im satisfied with the performance. I get a full days battery life and the temperatures never get critical (my setcpu profile is set to underclock at 38.2 degrees Celcius but my G2 hasn't gotten close to that). Im curious at what stage my G2 would score 3000+ in Quadrant.
You might PM flippy and see if he will customize a kernel for you that goes that high. Let him know you will send a certified letter signed in blood and a video of you stating you release him of all liability for what ever town you destroy when your phone goes nuclear.
Seriously though, I'm willing to be he'll make it for kicks if you ask nicely - btw, call guiness so you can make it into the record books. Also, I'm not sure but if you flash a 'blank' kernel couldn't you just echo the speed and voltage in the 00banner file or whichever one it is?
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So, Im sure this was answered somewhere, and I searched all over.
With that said, why cant the Evo be overclocked past the standard 1.19 or 1.2? I know stability is an issue, but there are other ARM processors that can OC almost double. Is the Evo ARM processor just not able to handle anything past that?
Does anyone know?
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You cannot compare the processor in teh Evo to other similar processors. Every single processor is different, and overclocking the evo past those speeds could brick it.
Why would you want to overclock that far? The Evo has no ventilation and crappy power management, even with an extended battery. You're taking an already unstable system and pushing it to the edge. Not only will your phone overheat and freeze, but you can permanently damage the hardware.
I know every processor is different and each one has their own limits.
There is always a risk of bricking and damaging the actual hardware, but what im asking is, in theory, and a practical test, can you push the evo processor past the 1.19 that seems to be the limit (im not talking about going huge, but is there a possibility of being able to hit the 1.5Ghz?). Because there are certain frequencies that are not stable, but ones slightly past that could be stable.
Just throwing it out there.
A car traveling at 120 MPH is not as easy to control as a car doing the speed limit.
try it out n see what happens n then report back ur findings for others that have the same question and cannot find an answer anywhere
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A car traveling at 120 MPH is not as easy to control as a car doing the speed limit.
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good analogy but that doesnt help anything.
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try it out n see what happens n then report back ur findings for others that have the same question and cannot find an answer anywhere
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I would, but all the kernels that the Devs have developed have either a limit put on them, or they havent been able to allow it to OC that far
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good analogy but that doesnt help anything.
I would, but all the kernels that the Devs have developed have either a limit put on them, or they havent been able to allow it to OC that far
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I was wondering this too. It would be nice to have the option to push it over 1.19ghz, I'll be the test dummy.
My Evo can handle 1228 fairly well but can tell its not as stable as say 1190. 1190 MHz is no prob...1267 usually crashes after a run or 3 in quadrant. 1113 runs niiiice for me and my 0004 evo
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My Evo can handle 1228 fairly well but can tell its not as stable as say 1190. 1190 MHz is no prob...1267 usually crashes after a run or 3 in quadrant. 1113 runs niiiice for me and my 0004 evo
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I can run 1190 just fine. Can a Dev possibly create a kernel that allows us to go past 1.2whatever.
I can't go up to 1.19 stabley
Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.
if I pass 1190 endless bootloop.... then ya gotta be fast and turn that damn thing down
I can go to 1228 MHz with Tiamat but it will crash and reboot once you do a couple of things.
shagav said:
So, Im sure this was answered somewhere, and I searched all over.
With that said, why cant the Evo be overclocked past the standard 1.19 or 1.2? I know stability is an issue, but there are other ARM processors that can OC almost double. Is the Evo ARM processor just not able to handle anything past that?
Does anyone know?
Thank you for the insite
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despite the meriad of answers you have gotten, I have been running my Evo on Sprint lovers Rom, and KiNgxKernel-Evo-12-BFS357-2.6.32.25-Flashable.zip for kernal.
I have been overclocked at 1267 since the day the kernal came out. it is singularly the only kernal that has allowed me to do this without ever crashing. OH, and I'm using
SetCPU 1267 on both min and max and scaling set to performance.
shagav said:
I know every processor is different and each one has their own limits.
There is always a risk of bricking and damaging the actual hardware, but what im asking is, in theory, and a practical test, can you push the evo processor past the 1.19 that seems to be the limit (im not talking about going huge, but is there a possibility of being able to hit the 1.5Ghz?). Because there are certain frequencies that are not stable, but ones slightly past that could be stable.
Just throwing it out there.
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Not going too big? Going from 1.0 ghz to 1.5ghz on a phone is like going from a civic to a v8. Alot of computer cpu's dont even overclock 500 mhz. I think you're expecting a little too much from a phone. If you want more, go buy a dual-core cpu atrix 4g or something. I'm a speed freak myself when it comes to cpu overclocking (mainly on computers) but 1.113 is plenty for a phone. It even runs fine at 600mhz. Dont get me wrong, it would be cool to get it that high, but your phone would hate you lol
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Just flashed Netflix-AllianceROM-2.1-HybriD-3D-OTA-Themed-r7.3TCsigned.zip and was wondering if there is a safe compatible overclocking kernel. Anyone have an idea?
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Just flashed Netflix-AllianceROM-2.1-HybriD-3D-OTA-Themed-r7.3TCsigned.zip and was wondering if there is a safe compatible overclocking kernel. Anyone have an idea?
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There are tons of kernals available in the Dev forum. I personally recommend Netarchy's kernals, but you are free to try any of them.
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Just flashed Netflix-AllianceROM-2.1-HybriD-3D-OTA-Themed-r7.3TCsigned.zip and was wondering if there is a safe compatible overclocking kernel. Anyone have an idea?
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Until HTC drops source codes you will lose camera and other things.
How did you overclock the CPU? I have tried the setCPU and it does not work, I have my Phone rooted, installed the crazy UNleashed rom (since uninstalled) and could not get the setCPU to overclock. Even though UNleashed is made to do that, and I have read others getting over clocked. I am running Synergy now, which I do not think it can Overclock the EVO, but I would like to know how you fine folks are accomplishing this. I would love to go 1.1 right now.
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How did you overclock the CPU? I have tried the setCPU and it does not work, I have my Phone rooted, installed the crazy UNleashed rom (since uninstalled) and could not get the setCPU to overclock. Even though UNleashed is made to do that, and I have read others getting over clocked. I am running Synergy now, which I do not think it can Overclock the EVO, but I would like to know how you fine folks are accomplishing this. I would love to go 1.1 right now.
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If you're using a stock HTC kernel, hit menu inside SetCPU -> Perflock Disabler. Disable Perflock -> Set On Boot. Ta da.
Hello people
Today I bought my new defy and I'm testing the possibilities of the device.
After some misgivings, I've made a progressive overclock and hit the 3GHz mark.
Someone has already gone beyond that and know if the device remains stable? Here it is running at 3GHz for an hour and not warmed more than 1 º C and not spent too much power. And yes, he is set to keep the clock all the time.
Did someone made this as well?
Edit: I can't post the Screenshots 'cause I'm a new user. If someone are interested in it, I can send it by pm.
I went to 1ghz and no further... you must have money to burn (or phones to burn!)
The phone didn't overheat. Even after one hour at 3GHz, the temperature did not rise more than 1 º C.
I wonder if anyone else has ventured within the limits of overclocking.
Even at 3GHZ, there's nothing gain as no apps or games need that power to run at the moment. All apps and games would run smooth even at 1GHZ. Possibility at this 3GHZ is only a fried processor if the phone won't do the auto shut down.
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It's still on and working without overheating, but I noticed the needless of this clock
I'll set the clock for 1.5ghz.
What rom do you recommend to me? I'm using Cyanogenmod rc 1.5.
3GHz is impossible, over 1.5GHz CPU can't work, you can set 10GHz, but will be exactly the same as 1.5GHz
May it be 3.0ghz only on the display but no in the system?
I'm new on this phone and don't know so much about it
3GHz? Hehe!
Yes, on screen it's shows 3GHz. But, like bvbfan said, I think it's only on screen and not the true frequence of the clock.
What program I can use to check this?
I'm using CyanogenMod Rc 1.5
Im running my Defy on 1 Ghz for ages now.
Never had a problem and i think going any further will not be healthy for your phone especially when you increase the vsel over 58
however you make it happen, it is fake. simply because of no heat. it is not really 3GHz, just a number you see on screen. run Quarant and see if it is really 3GHz
The current kernel won't let you overclock anywhere above 1.3 ghz. Its ARMv7 CPU limit I believe.
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where to get the link to overclock
Stenz28 said:
I went to 1ghz and no further... you must have money to burn (or phones to burn!)
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Hey bro. Could you tell me where to get the link to overclock defy? Also please elaborate the steps, if you can.
thanks
nisshant said:
Hey bro. Could you tell me where to get the link to overclock defy? Also please elaborate the steps, if you can.
thanks
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Just download SetVsel from Play Store, then search in Google for Defy overclocking.
Overclocked Since 1 Year
I am using Aero Control with the following settings:
GPU freq : 266MHz
VSEL Levels:
400/34
800/44
1100/56
1300/66
Governer: Interavtive
Current ROM: CM11 by Quarx 2
Kernel: 29/7 kernel by Blechdose
It is stable. No heating issues whatsoever :angel:
I have a og evo I want to know why when I overclock to 1.2ghz it freezes my phone why does it do that ?
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Each Evo is different. Some of them can't handle that high overclock, or can't be undervolted very low. Each one is different, each has its limits.
I don't understand the big deal with overclocking. It burns your battery faster. I personally underclock, with little to no lag and is good enough for my casual gaming needs
Mine doesn't like a clock much at all. I can get about 1.1 before it starts locking up but even then it hangs a lot. I honestly don't see a difference from 1.0 to 1.2. Get a decent rom, good kernel and try out the v6 script an I almost guarantee you will like that better.
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I have a og evo I want to know why when I overclock to 1.2ghz it freezes my phone why does it do that ?
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Well for us to be able to help you, you would need to provide us with more details on how you are trying to accomplish this.
I use no frils cpu but have also tried setcpu and viperMOD I know that's the best way to overclock but is very confusing. Have any step by step instructions to of to 1.2 I know having higher voltages helps as well.
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Overclocking is overrated. If you need to overclock for every day usage, then something is wrong - at least in my opinion. Resource intensive gaming is different, but you shouldn't need to overclock for browsing, texting, casual games, etc.
Try out the V6 Supercharger script. I'm not currently using it, but have in the past and it seemed to make my phone more snappy. A lot of people swear by it and it's a great script, definitely worth a shot. There are other things you can do to speed up your phone without overclocking. I'd try other options first since overclocking will chew through your battery. Increase the dalvik vm heap size, there are plenty of free apps on the market to help with this task. Uninstall apps you don't use, I'll bet that you never use some of the apps on your phone. Back them up with Titanium Backup and you can restore them if you ever need them again.
In case you didn't already know, the Evo can't overclock past 1.2, I'm not 100% sure why - it has something to do with the processor.
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I never oc over 1075 and only when plugged in if i play a game I need to oc.for I just activate my charging profile and plug up and play 1.2 ghz is a good chance of doing serious.damage as these older scorpion processors get very very hot at that clock speed so they lock up to try and protect themselves from heat damage or they shut down the phone 1075 is as high as you should need to go for any games the evo can handle on the subpar gpu
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beaumontcali48 said:
...also tried setcpu and viperMOD I know that's the best way to overclock.
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I'm pretty sure viperMOD is more for undervolting than overclocking, which are not suppose to be combined together. I am running vipermod with max voltages - 50. Other nite was playing snes9x and was getting some lag with a game so I bumped max CPU up to 1.2. Phone went into a bootloop and had to superwipe and reflash everything. Don't know if its b/c vipermod + 1.2 CPU or just bumping up CPU. Didn't try it again.
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Get a shift. Mine runs fine at 1.9. But usually run it art 254-1200 on demand.
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I'm pretty sure viperMOD is more for undervolting than overclocking, which are not suppose to be combined together. I am running vipermod with max voltages - 50. Other nite was playing snes9x and was getting some lag with a game so I bumped max CPU up to 1.2. Phone went into a bootloop and had to superwipe and reflash everything. Don't know if its b/c vipermod + 1.2 CPU or just bumping up CPU. Didn't try it again.
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You can overclock and undervolt together just fine. You just need to ensure that every frequency has a high enough voltage to run the processor at that step. My Evo is overclocked and undervolted just fine, although IIRC I can only push it up to 1.1 GHz . My tablet is 1ghz to 1.6ghz and is undervolted as well, though.
merge rls 2.0, iron monkey, Droid overclock because of the profiles options. I set up four profiles including one for temp. sometimes i'm underclocking and sometimes overclocking but only up to 1.19 to prevent freeze and boot loops. Only downside is right at open Droid overclock needs su permission but that is my choice since profile changes at open.
Very snappy afterwards.
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When I had the 4G, I was never able to go above 1118, or somewhere around that. It would have freezing issues.
On my evo shift, I was able to do 1.7 gHz (compared to stock 800 mhz) ok. 1.6 pretty reliabily, and I could run 1.5 all day long. Some guys could do 1.9. It just depends on the phone.
Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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Shoot the brutha a link
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tommy0823 said:
Actually overclocking and undervolting is counter-productive. What you should do, is read carhaulers and ropodopes guide over at vaelepak. Its give some good useful info about how to set up a good aosp rom. I'm underclocked, undervolted, and still getting 1400+ benchmarks. Check it out bro. You'll love the results.
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What? Overclocking and undervolting are two completely different things, and they aren't mutually exclusive. Unless you can provide a good reason as to why it's counter productive to do both, I don't buy that at all. Just checked my phone, my overclock requires an extra 25 mV for all three steps I've overclocked. 25mV isnt much, and it certainly isn't going to kill my battery that much faster.
Besides, the only time the CPU is going to be entering these high power modes is when it needs to do work, and it's better to do work as fast as possible to go back to sleep. Would you rather wake up, do a mundane task for 5 minutes, then go back to sleep or wake up, do a task at 2x the speed while only consuming 30-50% more energy, then going back to sleep after only 2.5 minutes?
HUGI is real.
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Yea shot me the link too bro.
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First let me say I don't use viper mod or any voltage controlling mod.
On sense 3.0 roms such as mikg I over clock to 1152 and set the minimum to 384 and its smooth as butter. No problem and battery lasts all day.
On aosp however such as decks (I'm on it now) I underclock to 499 and leave the min at 254. Smooth as always and battery lasts forever.
Anything past 1152 is going to cause problems (at least in my experience) also the rom/kernel can effect how much you can overclock.
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What? Overclocking and undervolting are two completely different things, and they aren't mutually exclusive. Unless you can provide a good reason as to why it's counter productive to do both, I don't buy that at all. Just checked my phone, my overclock requires an extra 25 mV for all three steps I've overclocked. 25mV isnt much, and it certainly isn't going to kill my battery that much faster.
Besides, the only time the CPU is going to be entering these high power modes is when it needs to do work, and it's better to do work as fast as possible to go back to sleep. Would you rather wake up, do a mundane task for 5 minutes, then go back to sleep or wake up, do a task at 2x the speed while only consuming 30-50% more energy, then going back to sleep after only 2.5 minutes?
HUGI is real.
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Its counter productive because it is giving less to something that needs more. (Don't take this post as me trying to be a ****. Just voicing how someone explained it to me a while ago)
Think of this as cars.
Lets say you have a nice fancy v8 mustang. Stock, everything is well, balanced.
If you start adding parts and get it pushing out 1000 horsepower (overclock) your most likely gonna need more feul (voltage) or at least stock amount flowing into the engine just to keep it running.
Now lets say you got that same 1000 horsepower gas destroying mustang and you start to lower the amount of gas flowing into the engine (undervolt (done in vipermod)) cylinders (CPU) wont get enough gas, it wont work, and your stuck going no where.
So if that made sense (did to me) then you can see why they are counter productive. Unless your using vipermod to overvolt (which idk if you can since I don't use it) then you can disregard this whole post
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Your car analogy is completely irrelevant. You can look up the exact voltages that the CPU runs on at every frequency, *even when overclocking*. Overclocking an Evo 1ghz to 1.2ghz takes maybe a 5% bump in voltage, and that 5% extra power is only going to be used *when the CPU is running at max speed* (which is only when there is a lot of work to do), and even then, it's *still better to let the CPU run at max speed with a tiny bit more power consumption than to cap the CPU at a slower speed and make it work for even longer*. Intel calls it HUGI, Hurry Up and Get Idle.
I know what I'm talking about, and I wish people would stop trying to argue with me based off of second hand speculation. I do this for a living, after all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with overclocking and undervolting, and it's the best way to get the most battery life *and* performance out of your phone, period.
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Gary13579 said:
Your car analogy is completely irrelevant. You can look up the exact voltages that the CPU runs on at every frequency, *even when overclocking*. Overclocking an Evo 1ghz to 1.2ghz takes maybe a 5% bump in voltage, and that 5% extra power is only going to be used *when the CPU is running at max speed* (which is only when there is a lot of work to do), and even then, it's *still better to let the CPU run at max speed with a tiny bit more power consumption than to cap the CPU at a slower speed and make it work for even longer*. Intel calls it HUGI, Hurry Up and Get Idle.
I know what I'm talking about, and I wish people would stop trying to argue with me based off of second hand speculation. I do this for a living, after all. There is absolutely nothing wrong with overclocking and undervolting, and it's the best way to get the most battery life *and* performance out of your phone, period.
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Hmm, *interesting*. I believe the best answer to the OP was covered rather well earlier. It's all about your rom/kernel/hardware combination. With all the variables to consider as relevant, your best bet is to experiment and find what works for your device. Don't check set on boot untill you are confident the set-up is stable. Higher is not always better with overclocking. My device runs blazingly well underclocked @768max. Gets insanely great battery @499max. However my quadrants are better @ 1036 than at 1190.
Great thing about android is you can experiment and learn through trial and error.
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Hello, after running all the kernels currently available for kindle fire, I cant help but noticing that none can clock up to more then 1200mhz. While this is an improvement, I would liek to see a kernel that could overclock all the way up to about 1400-1600mhz. I am sure that the kindle could handle it, It does fine with 1200mhz. Any thoughts, anyone think the kindle could handle this. If so, whats stopping all these great devs?
What a great thread to start. While we're at, here's what I'd "liek" to see: push the CPU to 3 cores. And can we get a higher pixel density, devs? I mean, come on!
My understanding is that no one will release a kernel OC'd to more than 1200 because it's dangerous. Even if some Kindle's can handle it, some can't even handle 1200, and it would cause too many problems with people breaking things. If you want it that bad you'll learn how to compile your own kernel.
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What Jake said is correct also, it would take waay too much work to get an overclocked kernel stable enough for the masses. Lower frequencies are generally more easily overclocked to higher levels than already high frequencies are.
Plus, why would you even want to overclock, what app/game is it that needs more than our 1.2ghz can handle, especially since we have a dual core cpu? I can't think of any and I have over 900 apps/games.(Not all on my KF, of course)
All it would do is drain your battery faster. Even games like NOVA 2 & NOVA 3(Probably not the most resource intensive games, but you get the point) run fine on 600 and 800 mhz.
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There would be little to no benefit in furthur overclocking our KF's.
I agree, I use the "Kindle" at a frequency of 800MHz, and I have enough speed for gaming and work)
But that should be added, so this optimization core to increase the autonomy of the "Kindl"
0xD34D had a 2.6x capable of 1.3ghz. Worked well, I had no issues.
If your still stock ROM look it up although some will say it's "dated".
Keep in mind just because it's clocked higher does'nt mean it's faster.
At 1.3ghz it felt OK but benchmarked well below 1.2ghz, something I've noticed on my G-Nex as well. Once over a certain speed performance drops.
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manchucka said:
What a great thread to start. While we're at, here's what I'd "liek" to see: push the CPU to 3 cores. And can we get a higher pixel density, devs? I mean, come on!
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What's the point in posting crap like this other than to be a troll?
Short answer is no, it's not going to happen.
All trolling aside half our devs didn't even want to go to 1.2
Do to differences in device state / hardware race (yes there are some differences in hardware albeit small and not expected by Amazon to be noticeable in stock, that obviously changes when you start changing the OS), there's no way to know who's kindle will support what clock speeds.
If that's not enough for you let's consider that TI clocked it at 1024M for a reason and that any manipulation beyond the MFG specs is going to run the risk of shortening the devices life. You'd get a similar response from me if you are talking real PCs as well. Quite frankly the risks of high OC are not worth the reward, for any device IMHO
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any one here can be a "dev" with learning and patience.
if we don't take it upon ourselves then we can't rightly complain with what's available.
with that said i will. i personally do't agree with the argument that it's not good for the device, some can't handle it, etc., so it's not done.
My gnex with the latest faux123 kernel can be set as high as 1.8ghz.
i cant get past 1.35 without a massive hit to performance, same with any other kernel that allow crazy high clock settings. there's a few.
At 1.56ghz it locks up. i don't blame faux123 for the instability at those speeds.
when battery life isn't a concern i'm clocked at 1.35ghz. i won't blame him if the phone stops working either.
I like that he put it there allowing me to try it. it's fun to push the limits. this is about fun.
There's a demand for oc'ing everything. I'd do the same with the KF, although from the 0xD4aD kernel i already know my KF was perfectly stable at 1.3ghz even with uv.
i wish i had the patience but sadly i don't so I wait.
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i wish i had the patience but sadly i don't so I wait.
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Interesting irony here
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So many trolls, nothing better to do than stuff his face with donuts, play wow, and TROLL LOL
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Hey guy's I noticed the one xl just got kernel sources recently and the result? Insane oc! I was just wondering how hard it would be to match the 2.1 frequency on the galaxy s3 lte as they both run Qualcomm s4's.
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The 1.9Ghz we currently have isn't enough for you? !!
Ahaha, well the thing is I returned my one xl for a galaxy s3 for performance reasons. I love to get every bit of power I can from my device and I somewhat expected the s4 to hit the 2ghz barrier soon after it was fiddled with. Battery drain is not a deal breaker for me.
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2.1 ghz.... My device runs butter smooth on stock... Will 2.1 cause it to melt like microwaved butter??
From what I heard mildly hot these s4's can handle it though.
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So I guess there not going to be a release like specified for quite awhile..
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So I guess there not going to be a release like specified for quite awhile..
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Depends the phone is quite new give it like 2 or 4 weeks tops. Right now IMO development is kinda slow.
is overclocking a phone anything like overclocking a PC? I've never Oc'd a phone before but have plenty of experience on PC.
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is overclocking a phone anything like overclocking a PC? I've never Oc'd a phone before but have plenty of experience on PC.
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Way more simpler actually.An app shows you your available frequencies choose the one you want and done.Oh and its live OC to.
Overclocking a phone is not easier than overclocking a PC.
Phones have many CPU steps so you have to find the right voltage for each step.
Also you can only change CPU voltage and frequency. (Some kernels allow you to change bus speed which is nice but alot don't support this.)
The only sensor you have is battery temp.
Furthermore, when overclocking a pc, you can just run prime95 for 10 hours and you know your stable. With the phone there is no difinitive stability test so sometimes something might trigger an instability afte you have been "stable" for a while.
Also no third party cooling. (As far as I know)
Im not saying it's really hard, but honestly when you come from PC overclocking you will probobly get frustrated about some things.
All that being said, overclocking a phone is super fun and I hope I didn't scare you away from it in any way.
Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?
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Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?
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If you have to ask this then don't worry about it. The average PC doesn't need more than 1ghz. We overclock because we can!
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If you have to ask this then don't worry about it. The average PC doesn't need more than 1ghz. We overclock because we can!
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I custom built my computer, im sure i can overclock it to who knows what but it being so new i don't even think about it. Maybe in 2 years when it starts showing age.
Most people that overclock their PC will get a new one before they really need the speed anyway. It's just because its is fun. And plus if you know how to overclock, there is really no reason not to. It's not like it's a trade off, its just free performance.
gotcha, i wasnt meaning to be disrespectful, i just never understood it unless needed.
You should try overclocking your PC. You might find that it is very fun.
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Overclocking a phone is not easier than overclocking a PC.
Phones have many CPU steps so you have to find the right voltage for each step.
Also you can only change CPU voltage and frequency. (Some kernels allow you to change bus speed which is nice but alot don't support this.)
The only sensor you have is battery temp.
Furthermore, when overclocking a pc, you can just run prime95 for 10 hours and you know your stable. With the phone there is no difinitive stability test so sometimes something might trigger an instability afte you have been "stable" for a while.
Also no third party cooling. (As far as I know)
Im not saying it's really hard, but honestly when you come from PC overclocking you will probobly get frustrated about some things.
All that being said, overclocking a phone is super fun and I hope I didn't scare you away from it in any way.
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I said simpler because in my experience I just select the frequency that I want and it causes no stability issues and under volt each step by 25mv.
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Am I the only one who isnt interested in overclocking in the least bit? I mean, the damn thing is fast enough already. I can understand overclocking something old like a nexus one, but wow. What do you guys get out of OC? What do you use OC for that requires the higher speeds?
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I just like showing off to my my friend who has an iphone and can't do that :highfive:
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You should try overclocking your PC. You might find that it is very fun.
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I wish I could but I have a laptop plus have no experience in OC a pc.
Your right about that. If your not pushing it to it's limits its easy. But then again the same could be said for PCs.