Hello, after running all the kernels currently available for kindle fire, I cant help but noticing that none can clock up to more then 1200mhz. While this is an improvement, I would liek to see a kernel that could overclock all the way up to about 1400-1600mhz. I am sure that the kindle could handle it, It does fine with 1200mhz. Any thoughts, anyone think the kindle could handle this. If so, whats stopping all these great devs?
What a great thread to start. While we're at, here's what I'd "liek" to see: push the CPU to 3 cores. And can we get a higher pixel density, devs? I mean, come on!
My understanding is that no one will release a kernel OC'd to more than 1200 because it's dangerous. Even if some Kindle's can handle it, some can't even handle 1200, and it would cause too many problems with people breaking things. If you want it that bad you'll learn how to compile your own kernel.
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What Jake said is correct also, it would take waay too much work to get an overclocked kernel stable enough for the masses. Lower frequencies are generally more easily overclocked to higher levels than already high frequencies are.
Plus, why would you even want to overclock, what app/game is it that needs more than our 1.2ghz can handle, especially since we have a dual core cpu? I can't think of any and I have over 900 apps/games.(Not all on my KF, of course)
All it would do is drain your battery faster. Even games like NOVA 2 & NOVA 3(Probably not the most resource intensive games, but you get the point) run fine on 600 and 800 mhz.
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There would be little to no benefit in furthur overclocking our KF's.
I agree, I use the "Kindle" at a frequency of 800MHz, and I have enough speed for gaming and work)
But that should be added, so this optimization core to increase the autonomy of the "Kindl"
0xD34D had a 2.6x capable of 1.3ghz. Worked well, I had no issues.
If your still stock ROM look it up although some will say it's "dated".
Keep in mind just because it's clocked higher does'nt mean it's faster.
At 1.3ghz it felt OK but benchmarked well below 1.2ghz, something I've noticed on my G-Nex as well. Once over a certain speed performance drops.
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manchucka said:
What a great thread to start. While we're at, here's what I'd "liek" to see: push the CPU to 3 cores. And can we get a higher pixel density, devs? I mean, come on!
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What's the point in posting crap like this other than to be a troll?
Short answer is no, it's not going to happen.
All trolling aside half our devs didn't even want to go to 1.2
Do to differences in device state / hardware race (yes there are some differences in hardware albeit small and not expected by Amazon to be noticeable in stock, that obviously changes when you start changing the OS), there's no way to know who's kindle will support what clock speeds.
If that's not enough for you let's consider that TI clocked it at 1024M for a reason and that any manipulation beyond the MFG specs is going to run the risk of shortening the devices life. You'd get a similar response from me if you are talking real PCs as well. Quite frankly the risks of high OC are not worth the reward, for any device IMHO
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any one here can be a "dev" with learning and patience.
if we don't take it upon ourselves then we can't rightly complain with what's available.
with that said i will. i personally do't agree with the argument that it's not good for the device, some can't handle it, etc., so it's not done.
My gnex with the latest faux123 kernel can be set as high as 1.8ghz.
i cant get past 1.35 without a massive hit to performance, same with any other kernel that allow crazy high clock settings. there's a few.
At 1.56ghz it locks up. i don't blame faux123 for the instability at those speeds.
when battery life isn't a concern i'm clocked at 1.35ghz. i won't blame him if the phone stops working either.
I like that he put it there allowing me to try it. it's fun to push the limits. this is about fun.
There's a demand for oc'ing everything. I'd do the same with the KF, although from the 0xD4aD kernel i already know my KF was perfectly stable at 1.3ghz even with uv.
i wish i had the patience but sadly i don't so I wait.
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i wish i had the patience but sadly i don't so I wait.
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Interesting irony here
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So many trolls, nothing better to do than stuff his face with donuts, play wow, and TROLL LOL
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Hi guys!
I haven't yet rooted my Desire(I would have but I was fool enough to install the 2.2 OTA).The main reason for me to root would be the ability to overclock my device.All this time that I have been around here on the Desire and Nexus One forums I have been seeing that our devices are overclocked only up to 1113MHz and only in very rare cases 1267MHz.However,to my great surprise,I noticed on OpenDesire ROM's thread that the Desire can be overclocked @1344MHz(which of course made me think a big HELL YEAH!).Is that number ok for all of us or for some select few?I remember from my Hero days that only some few,lucky guys like myself could overclock up to 768MHz,although there were cases of people,rare,yet not unheard of,that could overclock @844MHz.Is this the case here or are things different with the Snapdragon?
Many many thanks guys!
C'mon guys,no one?
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I have been seeing that our devices are overclocked only up to 1113MHz and only in very rare cases 1267MHz.
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I don't think overclocking to 1267MHz happens in rare cases. I had no problems oc-ing to 1267 and it seems that a lot of forum member were able to do this too.
Why don't you downgrade your HBoot to 0.80, root your phone and try it out?
Just make sure your phone does not become too hot if you try 1344MHz.
I have to ask the question, but does it really matter?
IMHO, the Desire is plenty fast enough that overclocking it simply isn't necessary.
I can understand underclocking to eek out more battery life, but other than gaining a few points on some benchmarks, I really don't see the point in overclocking.
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Dave
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I have to ask the question, but does it really matter?
IMHO, the Desire is plenty fast enough that overclocking it simply isn't necessary.
I can understand underclocking to eek out more battery life, but other than gaining a few points on some benchmarks, I really don't see the point in overclocking.
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so this, its really not needed at all. a decent fast rom and 1ghz is more than enought for things to be super speedy. any decent kernal will provide more than enough speed.
overclocking(and lots of other things these days!) reminds me of that bit in jurassic park where they are all sat around the table and geoff goldblum says:
"Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should".
herein lies the lesson, just because you can do it doesnt mean you should do it.
Well,I have my reasons wanting to overclock...First off,I will check if I can see any difference in speed or smoothness.If there isn't,I will just revert the clock back to normal after some benchmarks.
I just am the kind of guy that wants to get the most out of his phone!
I think ALL Desires can overclock to 1267Mhz. It's not that rare and I've not seen anyone having a problem with it.
It does make things a bit snappier as well.
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I think ALL Desires can overclock to 1267Mhz. It's not that rare and I've not seen anyone having a problem with it.
It does make things a bit snappier as well.
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That's what I'm talkin' about man!
And now that I think of it,it's not that much.I mean,the Hero could overclock @768,which is 45% overclocking.The Desire's 1267 is about 27% and 1344 is about 34,5%.Nothing too much!So why not?
Every CPU is different. The Qualcomm Snapdragon is a very different beast compared to the Qualcomm MSM 7200A.
We are just starting to learn what we can do with the Snapdragon without damaging it.
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Every CPU is different. The Qualcomm Snapdragon is a very different beast compared to the Qualcomm MSM 7200A.
We are just starting to learn what we can do with the Snapdragon without damaging it.
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Well my man,in this case the MSM7200A is no beast but rather a pooch that barks to no avail!Good pet however!
Joking aside,the Snapdragon is a beast for a mobile phone,but even beasts get beaten.Now,if I can somehow reach or even get close to the performance of the Galaxy S or the Droid X I'll be happy.Software wise I believe that HTC is far superior ,but it's hardware is a little out of date.Let's see what their new devices will do for us!
Btw,does anyone know if the so anticipated HTC Ace will be anything better than what we already have or if it will be the Evo for GSM users?
Thanks!
The desire is plenty fast as it is and I don't see the point of overclocking it. I've had it to 1267 in the past and it made no difference at all for usability. I'm also the type that overclocks all his computers...
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Personal preferences dude...What everyone does with their phone is their own business.I wish I could resist overclocking too!
However,I was watching a thread over at the N1 forums in which a dude named Storm9999(genius dude,not just a random one) stated that an overclock @1,3GHz could fry our phones.Is that so?I mean,I know overclocking reduces the CPU's lifetime,but is it THAT MUCH dangerous?
I think overclocking can kill your phone.. I use to overclock my own o2 orbit and it died after a year..
Friend of mine just burned his old HTC by overclocking it and as a consequence is going to buy a desire.
I had my phone overclocked at 1345Mhz for a moment, just to test it, and it made no real difference to when it was overclocked at around 1.2Ghz, which in turn has very very little difference to stock 1Ghz.
I think the only case where you see some small impact is in games.
I've tested HD recording at 1.345 Ghz and stock speed and there was no difference.
If anything, it's going to kill your battery and shorten its life for sure, going so high. If ever I will OC again I won't go over 1.1 and only if I find some tangible improvements.
As said, this phone is always fast, there is no real need to OC, other than for 'fun'.
The fun is what I want...Well,most probably I will have my phone overclocked at the maximum speed it can get for about a week or two and then go back to 1 or 1,1GHz...
Btw,your signature kicks ass andycted!
I bet everyone has heard of the droid 2 and X being overclocked to crazy speeds right? Well... how come the Incredible hasn't reached those speeds?!?! Im sure some awesome dev could probably achieve this! There are many Inc owners who would like... scratch that... LOVE this speed increase, and im sure they wouldn't mind donating to the truly amazing dev who does this. Now the question is... whose willing to do it?
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The problem is that our phones can't handle those speeds mine cant handle anything over 1.113
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The problem is that our phones can't handle those speeds mine cant handle anything over 1.113
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That doesn't mean we can't try! Lol
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You could probably achieve this. Except you'd be buying another phone after your incredible spontaneously combusts from this kind of overclocking. Motorola phones use a different line of processors, OMAP from Texas Instruments rather than the Snapdragons.
then why with D2 or X's is that possible?
Because the Droid 2 and X use completely different processors made by completely different companies. We have a Qualcomm Snapdragon they have Texas Instruments OMAP.
No, see. Those speeds are fake. There's no way a mobile processor with today's technology could handle speeds of 2GHz or higher. 1.6Ghz is the highest I've seen on the X/2, and it wasn't very stable. That's why these "overclock apps" for the Droid X/2 only have options for 1.4GHz max.
Fake... plain and simple... you can't even overclock a PC processor 1.5ghz above its stock speed without some serious cooling. You really believe that a phone, with no fan/water/cooling of any kind can do it?
I am not a dev but my first degree was in engineering 20years ago. So when I say that its extremely unlikely that any of the massive OC stories are true I am talking from knowledge of engineering processes. 30-40% OC seems to be in the realm of reality. Beyond that, you enter the land of the bovine excrement.
First of all, as an engineer you simply do not design these chips with that much OC'ing being possible. Up to 40% OC seems possible - I would actually predict that some time in the near future we will be able to run the chips in the inc at 1.3 - stable. Expecting anything more is silly. If it was possible to run them at those speeds, guess what, they would have released them as 1.5 or 2 GHz chips.
Secondly, even if you were to temporarily be able to run them at substantially higher frequencies than what we can see them get to right now, they would be extremely unstable and would run hot very quickly. Thats too big a risk to take. In the best case scenario, you will just have a bricked device - replacing which will cost you $500-600. In the worst case, you will burn your hand and/or your face.
I would recommend that the OP volunteers his money, device(s), body and brains towards finding just how far we can OC an incredible. In the meantime I am happy to sit on the sidelines and implement solutions which are more logical and less quixotic.
wow LOL sounds cool to me just wondering, thank you!
IMO, Over clocking is over rated. You end up with reboots, crashes, and an unreliable phone.
I see a lot of people more concerned with quadrant scores than good battery life. Some of them expect both. I for one think the incredible is fast enough already, especially coming from a storm 1.
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To be honest i do notice a little bit of a speedup when I had mine overclocked to 1.15. But of course less battery life is a trade off with that. I am running the newest HTC stock kernel, no OC, and am very happy with battery life and speed. The phone would absolutely FLY with an OC of 1.5ghz or higher. But as someone said, if it was made to do that, they would have just put a 1.5ghz chip in there to begin with.
Hai Guise!
Back a little while ago the G2/Vision thread (before Desire Z was merged) had a thread about overclocking made by a user named Flippy. I followed it for a while because it was getting insanely out of control and awesome. I had used 1.9Ghz as my max oc for a while and It was great. Now I'm on 1.8Ghz again because the 1.9Ghz kernel was removed later on and replaced with the 1.8Ghz update zip. (For some reason doesn't work for me so I had to fastboot it)
So the reason I made this thread is because I would like to have the 2.0Ghz kernel. I know it's possible and has been done already. I've looked into compiling my own but apparently I need linux to compile it and I'm not fond of installing VM's on my old computer that will barely run as it is.
Now I ask of you, if anyone who is kind enough to possibly please compile a 2.0Ghz zimage for me, I would be greatly in your debt and appreciate it much so! I understand that it is my fault if I mess up my device and only I am held responsible.
Thank you in advanced to anyone kind enough to offer their services.
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Hai Guise!
Back a little while ago the G2/Vision thread (before Desire Z was merged) had a thread about overclocking made by a user named Flippy. I followed it for a while because it was getting insanely out of control and awesome. I had used 1.9Ghz as my max oc for a while and It was great. Now I'm on 1.8Ghz again because the 1.9Ghz kernel was removed later on and replaced with the 1.8Ghz update zip. (For some reason doesn't work for me so I had to fastboot it)
So the reason I made this thread is because I would like to have the 2.0Ghz kernel. I know it's possible and has been done already. I've looked into compiling my own but apparently I need linux to compile it and I'm not fond of installing VM's on my old computer that will barely run as it is.
Now I ask of you, if anyone who is kind enough to possibly please compile a 2.0Ghz zimage for me, I would be greatly in your debt and appreciate it much so! I understand that it is my fault if I mess up my device and only I am held responsible.
Thank you in advanced to anyone kind enough to offer their services.
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Why do you need to overclock that high? I've used the 1.8Ghz and found that to.be overkill. I'm running at about 1ghz at that seems ample.
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Why do you need to overclock that high? I've used the 1.8Ghz and found that to.be overkill. I'm running at about 1ghz at that seems ample.
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Wouldn't that fry your phone without any active cooling system or something? Sounds unnecessarily risky..
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Hai Guise!
Back a little while ago the G2/Vision thread (before Desire Z was merged) had a thread about overclocking made by a user named Flippy. I followed it for a while because it was getting insanely out of control and awesome. I had used 1.9Ghz as my max oc for a while and It was great. Now I'm on 1.8Ghz again because the 1.9Ghz kernel was removed later on and replaced with the 1.8Ghz update zip. (For some reason doesn't work for me so I had to fastboot it)
So the reason I made this thread is because I would like to have the 2.0Ghz kernel. I know it's possible and has been done already. I've looked into compiling my own but apparently I need linux to compile it and I'm not fond of installing VM's on my old computer that will barely run as it is.
Now I ask of you, if anyone who is kind enough to possibly please compile a 2.0Ghz zimage for me, I would be greatly in your debt and appreciate it much so! I understand that it is my fault if I mess up my device and only I am held responsible.
Thank you in advanced to anyone kind enough to offer their services.
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You don't need a VM. You need to wipe the garbage off and install linux on the "bare metal".
While it would be *neat* to oc this phone to 2GHz - just because. It would be beyond useless and I can just see some noob burning down their parents house or possibly starting a nuclear war with Russia by accident. Lets not forget your carrier reporting you to the CIA for having a nuclear reactor in your phone.
Look, with no active cooling it's just downright stupid to go that high. However being the genius' that we are I'm sure somebody could devise a method to install a mini fan or some liquid cooling on this phone. But then you may need that nuclear reactor to power all that stuff. Haven't we already set a guiness world record at 1.8GHz on a production phone anyway? Maybe we need to tell them so we can make it in the book
My phone froze at 2Ghz... I went in for 2.2Ghz at first but it froze after a couple seconds
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My phone froze at 2Ghz... I went in for 2.2Ghz at first but it froze after a couple seconds
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LOL, it didn't make you go back in time or some ****?
The 1.9Ghz kernel caused my phone to crash. 2.0 would burn your phone's processor out. Just use the 1.8Ghz kernel and have the profiles on SetCPU set to the lowest speeds when the display's off.
Your phone may not actually run stable at 2GHz. Mine doesn't run stable past 1.6GHz, and that runs psx4droid *perfectly*, especially with the optimization they've done in the app recently.
Also, even with setCPU profiles, battery drain when you ARE running that high is a beeeotch.
Honestly, it's not really for OCing that high, but rather the look at what I can do I had a friend just ask be how high I can OC my phone and at 1.5GHz he's like woah :O His face at 2GHz would have been like
I previously used Flippy's kernel on my G2 and did OC it to 1.8 GHz, and got a Quadrant score of 3037. It was cool to see how fast my phone could actually get, but I'm more than comfortable with OC'ing it to 1.4 GHz. Anything more than that seems to be unnecessary to me, but that's just my opinion. Last thing I want is to have my G2 melt while it's in the pocket of my pants.
Try the .ko module and overclock that way
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Try the .ko module and overclock that way
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Oh yeah totally forgot that existed. Thank you for the useful response.
tried the module but the phone freezes after doing anything above 1.4ghz
I believe it needs voltage tweaking which I don't know how to go about sooo... yeah
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My phone froze at 2Ghz... I went in for 2.2Ghz at first but it froze after a couple seconds
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LOL!! Froze? Or more like "fried"!! Hehe
Doesn't it happen to you guys that when running @1.5Ghz u get many FC from some games? Running excessive OC might stop your phone from working.
Why do you need 2Ghz?!
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LOL!! Froze? Or more like "fried"!! Hehe
Doesn't it happen to you guys that when running @1.5Ghz u get many FC from some games? Running excessive OC might stop your phone from working.
Why do you need 2Ghz?!
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Nope, not for me anyway. I know different HW revisions and such have an effect on how high you can oc but my phone doesn't skip a beat at 1.8GHZ. I'm sure I could go to 2GHZ or a bit higher but unless I'm trying to emulate a PS3, I don't see the purpose - aside from maybe setting a record.
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Nope, not for me anyway. I know different HW revisions and such have an effect on how high you can oc but my phone doesn't skip a beat at 1.8GHZ. I'm sure I could go to 2GHZ or a bit higher but unless I'm trying to emulate a PS3, I don't see the purpose - aside from maybe setting a record.
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Same. I can do 1.8 all day if I keep near a charger. Anything over 1.3 will drain my battery like a monster though.
I keep at 1.2 regularly and only go higher for games.
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LOL!! Froze? Or more like "fried"!! Hehe
Doesn't it happen to you guys that when running @1.5Ghz u get many FC from some games? Running excessive OC might stop your phone from working.
Why do you need 2Ghz?!
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I can jog 1.8 and 1.9Ghz for a day without even reaching a dangerous temperature.
Can I get some supportive ideas and less herp derp personal opinions?
Highest Ive pushed mine is 1.5ghz. No need to go any further, Im satisfied with the performance. I get a full days battery life and the temperatures never get critical (my setcpu profile is set to underclock at 38.2 degrees Celcius but my G2 hasn't gotten close to that). Im curious at what stage my G2 would score 3000+ in Quadrant.
You might PM flippy and see if he will customize a kernel for you that goes that high. Let him know you will send a certified letter signed in blood and a video of you stating you release him of all liability for what ever town you destroy when your phone goes nuclear.
Seriously though, I'm willing to be he'll make it for kicks if you ask nicely - btw, call guiness so you can make it into the record books. Also, I'm not sure but if you flash a 'blank' kernel couldn't you just echo the speed and voltage in the 00banner file or whichever one it is?
I rarely play games on my phones, and generally even if I do it's something like Battleheart or Tiny Tower or one of the Kairosoft games (and of course Draw Summin and Wordfeud) or a little SNES emu rather than Shadowgun (Gears of Bore Mobile now with more boring) and such.
Reason being that I already play a lot of high end games on PC and console regularly so... the "simpler" designed games tend to be a much better experience on a mobile. Probably a discussion had a million times on neoGAF or something so I won't expand anymore .
So what I mean to ask is that is there a significant gain in UI/Browser/etc performance with 512mhz GPU OC?
Is the additional battery drain significant?
I'm currently on Liquid 1.3 + Franco 142 FWIW
Lots of power drain with minimal improvement. I just stick with the 384Mhz kernel cause it gives me the least problems.
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Another phone for a hardcore non-mobile gamer.
Or better yet, a Vita.
Something I've been pondering on for many a day is: How much more performance will I see if I were to overclock the GPU to 384 Mhz?
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Something I've been pondering on for many a day is: How much more performance will I see if I were to overclock the GPU to 384 Mhz?
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A few frames per second. Technically it isn't an overclock. It is a restore to reference clock
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A few frames per second. Technically it isn't an overclock. It is a restore to reference clock
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I know what you mean.
I read that article the Google developer wrote regarding this matter. Are these few extra frames notable in games? Does it use that much more power?
Speaking of "restoring to reference" clock, why did an image of an iPhone pop up in my head? Oh yeah, they underclock their processors by 200 Mhz.
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I know what you mean.
I read that article the Google developer wrote regarding this matter. Are these few extra frames notable in games? Does it use that much more power?
Speaking of "restoring to reference" clock, why did an image of an iPhone pop up in my head? Oh yeah, they underclock their processors by 200 Mhz.
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I'm not sure if it makes a real world difference really. I've always done it in my kernels...just because
Is the GPU set solid at 512 or dynamic and will ramp up/down as its needed? I'm guessing set, as one of the Android brains out there would of already made it dynamic if possible.
Think I have answered my own question really in hindsight
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Adrynalyne will no doubt correct me if I am wrong, but I think the fps gain from reference to 512Mhz is something in the region of 3-5 fps? It's a lot of drain for very little gain. And seeing how I've not come across a game that isn't smooth on the Nexus, it seems like a waste of time and juice.
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Another phone for a hardcore non-mobile gamer.
Or better yet, a Vita.
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Uhhh... I just said I don't play many games on my phones at all. To make it even clearer, I don't play games when I'm out besides simple ones because I generally rather read something online if I had a lot of time waiting for something/someone since I do so much, dare I say it, proper gaming at home. My mobile is my mobile, it's why I got a gnex, it's a smartphone .
Back to topic, so 512mhz is only a little FPS increase in games (that I don't play ) with minimal gains everywhere else and generally lowers battery life? I'll remain stock clock then . Thanks guys.
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Adrynalyne will no doubt correct me if I am wrong, but I think the fps gain from reference to 512Mhz is something in the region of 3-5 fps? It's a lot of drain for very little gain. And seeing how I've not come across a game that isn't smooth on the Nexus, it seems like a waste of time and juice.
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I agree with your completely
307 to 384 nets me 3 fps.
I would imagine 512 from 384 has diminishing returns from that. So 3-5 is not a stretch at all for max gain.
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Uhhh... I just said I don't play many games on my phones at all. To make it even clearer, I don't play games when I'm out besides simple ones because I generally rather read something online if I had a lot of time waiting for something/someone since I do so much, dare I say it, proper gaming at home. My mobile is my mobile, it's why I got a gnex, it's a smartphone .
Back to topic, so 512mhz is only a little FPS increase in games (that I don't play ) with minimal gains everywhere else and generally lowers battery life? I'll remain stock clock then . Thanks guys.
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I know what you said, but self described hardcore gamer is at conflict with it, regardless of device
Well i have a phone, and in that forum members says that Overclock the cpu shorts the motherboard life, is that true? and for those who are using Overclock, do u really feel something diferent with the performance of the tablet? or do u see something wrong with Overclock? like random reeboots or makes the tablet hot? Im thinking in OC or not my tab, so i wanna see the experience from other members, thx in advance. :good:
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Well i have a phone, and in that forum members says that Overclock the cpu shorts the motherboard life, is that true? and for those who are using Overclock, do u really feel something diferent with the performance of the tablet? or do u see something wrong with Overclock? like random reeboots or makes the tablet hot? Im thinking in OC or not my tab, so i wanna see the experience from other members, thx in advance. :good:
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I cover this in the guide I wrote in general (which has been pushed down quite a ways) but anyways here goes another version.
Overclocking varies from device to device, even of the same model. Variances in tolerance is on a per chip basis, as long as they pass within a certain range they are sent out for production in devices. Overclocking in general is within means of the chip's abilities, if it isn't, you'll know it. Generally speaking, 1.4 GHz is perfectly fine on our devices. 1.5 GHz is also usually ok, but is the upper end of what the Tegra2 can usually tolerate. Few an go past 1.58 GHz, my old G2x's tegra2 could hit 1.7 GHz,but that's well beyond "normal" range.
Overclocking a device is the same as overclocking a PC, you need to be careful with it. Don't just ramp it to 65% overclock and expect it to run fine. Every chip is different. Do it in steps, and test each step before moving on. Test it in normal usage, test it in heavy usage, gaming, etc.
An overclocked device will certainly run hotter then normal, it's running faster, drawing more power, and that creates a hotter running core, no way around it. Keeping in mind there is no airflow in these things, that makes the biggest enemy to CPUs even more dangerous.Does it run so hot that it can shorten component life? Sure it can. Will you still have the device when it happens? I doubt it. Likely, we'll be on Tegra5 before it even begins to show signs of stress.
One of the nice things, though, is our CPUs range so much in speed according to load that just because your Max is 1.5 GHz, it doesn't always run there. Most times, it won't even be in the overclocked speeds. Does it run faster? Sure does. Benchmarks will raise nicely, and games that maybe got choppy before will smooth out, movies that couldn't play well will be fluid, the heavens will align, mankind will discover world peace and I'll win the lottery.
All that being said, I don't usually overclock, in fact I tend to underclock a little to 800MHz. Its usually sufficient to do normal tablet stuff, and I adjust the speed according to what I require. If my movie is lagging, I'll bump it up until it smooths out. Same for a game if it needs it.
In the end, its all personal choice, really. Just because you CAN overclock, doesn't mean you NEED to. IMO a well tuned governor will give as good a result as overclocking in normal usage, and a good I/O Scheduler will also help alot, without adding anymore heat or stress to your device.
TL;DNR:
Overclocking is fun. It causes more heat. It likely won't explode within the time you own it. Or your children. Your battery will suck.
thanks pio for the answer, thats what i needed to read, cuz usually when u talk about OC its like "yeah dude, OC its "tha greeeeeat doi it dude" or something like "dont do it!!! u will decrease your tablet life" and yes, i know that devices are way to diferent even if they are the same model, and also im agree with u, governors and I/O works better than OC but we dont have many for our device, i miss the smartass v2 governor,or the brazzilianwax too, but well, hope someone can port it for us someday.