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Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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I'm assuming you're taking over for them since you posted this in the Dev section? Please post up some of your work so far and the GPL information. Good luck!
If it starts with [Q], probably goes in Q&A, or ask in their respective threads.
Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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No its not it belongs in the Q&A or general section
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Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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I agree that people need to be a bit more user friendly around here, no need to get snarky. BUT this is a DEV only section and this type of question (even if it is about DEV work really doesn't belong here).
There is nothing wrong with ONE person trying to help the person but instructing them that this is not the right place for their post. That is not playing the role of a MOD, that is part of being in a community. If this type of thing wasn't a problem the MODS would not have made the 10 post requirement before you can even post here.
Honestly there hasn't been any new developments. In my mind as it stands EVO's are done. Unless Sprint/HTC release something new there is nothing left to develop. The ROMS are zipaligned, PNG Optimized, Battery scripted, etc. I have some work I could do one the graphics but ROM wise I don't see anything earth shattering on the horizon.
Damage Control i believe is dead for now (i haven't seen anything on another phone)
Fresh i believe flipz has just been busy and really his rom is working and works well and there havent been any major ground breaking updates that need to be addressed. since fresh is a non themed rom it is a little harder to constantly provide updates when there isnt much to change in the build itself.
Evio - see fresh for most of it.
A lot of the sense based roms that are updated constantly are themed roms which gives them a lot more to play with. they can tweak the look etc even when there arent any major new developmental releases. I am in no way saying this is all that is done and there is nothing wrong with it being done just explaining my belief on why some roms are updated much more often then others. With the Evo fast approaching the one year mark you will probably see much fewer major updates coming and much fewer major developments.
This is my personal opinion and is not fact. I base my opinions off what i have seen on the devs twitter streams and own sites. hopefully it provides more answers.
When all things sense die, you can always switch to aosp lol. Its updated with the latest and greatest. I prefer sense my self but as zone said; most sense roms are maxed out, there's nothing left to do to them.
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As soon as the System Dump/ROM leaks out for the Evo 3D, they will have something new to play with.
I never understood why people keep asking for updates to stable ROMs that are based on Sprint OTA releases, like Fresh and Myn's Twopointwo. I read both of those threads, and every couple pages, you get people asking about new versions or updates to complete, working, stable ROMs. What do people expect?
If you want new features like Sense 2.0 or Gingerbread, don't flash a ROM that is based on OTA updates.
i agree, i think the sense roms are at a standstill until an official 2.3/sense 2.0 build comes down the pipe from HTC/Sprint. (assuming the Evo gets sense 2.0/android 2.3)
i love calk's work, EViO is a great rom. i only switched because i fell in love with CM7
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Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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+1 .........
Its looking more and more likely that we arent going to get 2.3 on our Evo's..
I also assumed thats why we havent seen any updates.. There isnt an official 2.3 Sense Evo rom to tear apart..
hopefully there enjoying life and not by a computer every night thinking about updates. But this goes to a deeper question that i think is starting to spark up is everybody tired of there evo's already ? U can flash so many roms until u flash out but at the end of the day a evo is still a evo
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No its not it belongs in the Q&A or general section
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I Don't know... so far a lot of the [ROMS] that I've seen are just re-skinned versions of everything else out there, shouldn't most of those go in the Themes and Apps section as well, if we are going to try and get technical ?
I wouldn't technically call half of these ROMS true "Development" but merely Themes, which there is another section for as well. But if you want to get technical:
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This does not actually lay any guidelines as to what is allowed (actually, this was a rather lazy post in regards to setting guidelines (hey, I can't watch people, I'm a Mod, report them if the entire community comes to a consensus as to what should not be here, we will leave it up to the teeming masses, I mean, it worked well enough for Russia after the bolshevik revolution right? Aren't teeming masses of people able to find out what is in the best interest of everyone else that is not them?), what constitutes strictly development, and what constitutes Q&A if it pertains to Development.
It was a valid question about development. People may or may not upgrade their phones and ditch Evo's based on a developer of ROMS as well.
Don't forget Vaelpak
If like myself, one were to prefer some of the Sense elements over the AOSP versions, but also like the obvious increase in performance that comes from the AOSP's lighter weight, don't forget the latest Vaelpak.
Sense ROM-based, but with most of Sense removed. I get my preferred Sense Dialer, VVM, etc, and thanks to Fancy Widget I get a Sense-like clock with more and better functionality. 4G, HDMI, everything works.
There is no perfect ROM, of course it all comes down to preference and opinion anyway. But if anyone is looking for something unique and extremely functional, this is a very interesting option. I flashed his 3.2 about a week ago just to check it out and have not had a reason to leave it...except to flash to the GB ROMs of course!
As was said above, until official gingerbread is out (which we heard was a yes).....don't worry, there will be continued stuff as most of us got screwed with sprint changing the premium upgrades. 2.2 is maxxed out.
Cooler than your EVO
ljohnson1981 said:
Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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LIFE gets in the way sometimes man Calk just had a new baby girl so that is WAY more important than spending all day and night on roms for people to just complain, Damageless was disrespected more than anybody i have ever seen on here sheesh if i was him i would never come back and give time, and Fresh's wife was having some health issues i believe so he had to take care of her.
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Its looking more and more likely that we arent going to get 2.3 on our Evo's..
I also assumed thats why we havent seen any updates.. There isnt an official 2.3 Sense Evo rom to tear apart..
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The EVO is getting 2.3 w/Sense, but not until it comes out on a new flagship phone (E3D). I wouldn't expect it until July or August.
Hi, to this and i'm looking to install a new rom on my Epic 4G but like every person, I am afraid to damage my new equipment.
I'm looking for some stable Roms to flash my Epic but don't know where to look for them with a good description of what does work- what doesn't-what will improve with it... Thing's like that. If anyone can help me, i'll apreciate. =)
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Hi, to this and i'm looking to install a new rom on my Epic 4G but like every person, I am afraid to damage my new equipment.
I'm looking for some stable Roms to flash my Epic but don't know where to look for them with a good description of what does work- what doesn't-what will improve with it... Thing's like that. If anyone can help me, i'll apreciate. =)
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This took like 0.1 sec on google:
http://alchemistar.blogspot.com/2010/11/samsung-epic-4g-custom-rom-list-1110.html
A list is not maintained on XDA.
Go here! Click on your model below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Samsung_Epic_4G.png
3ndless said:
Hi, to this and i'm looking to install a new rom on my Epic 4G but like every person, I am afraid to damage my new equipment.
I'm looking for some stable Roms to flash my Epic but don't know where to look for them with a good description of what does work- what doesn't-what will improve with it... Thing's like that. If anyone can help me, i'll apreciate. =)
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Just look up "Samsung Epic 4G Rom XDA" on google and you'll find a whole selection of roms. Then just read their descriptions and some comments to find out what they're all about. I'm a little disappointed that this was you first contribution to the XDA forums...
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Just look up "Samsung Epic 4G Rom XDA" on google and you'll find a whole selection of roms. Then just read their descriptions and some comments to find out what they're all about. I'm a little disappointed that this was you first contribution to the XDA forums...
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Wow, don't need to be so "Humble" you guys, thanks anyways...
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3ndless said:
Wow, don't need to be so "Humble" you guys, thanks anyways...
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Oh relax, it's all in good fun. We answered you .
But you'll have a lot of questions, we all do, and you'll get your answers faster 9 times out of 10 by checking if someone already asked them first.
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Oh relax, it's all in good fun. We answered you .
But you'll have a lot of questions, we all do, and you'll get your answers faster 9 times out of 10 by checking if someone already asked them first.
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Ok, really sorry for the bother I could cause its just that i've been looking in Google about this and its very confusing. ALWAYS appears something new about this theme & I want to already finish with it to fully enjoy my equipment.
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Theme? What do you mean?
-Sent from my custom INC Epic.
Hey I was new to it myself and as long as you can put your phone in dowload mode you have really nothing to worry about just make sure your cable is good and you have the stock rom and your good
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Wow, don't need to be so "Humble" you guys, thanks anyways...
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Random's post was actually very humble, some people get crucified for not searching lol
We do need a clearer documentation of ROMs
Personally, I think OP's request is completely valid. There are a multitude of ROMS. The roms really don't have any specific vision statement such as "My goal is to be the most stable rom" "my goal is to be the most bleeding edge ROM" "my goal is to be the quickest ROM" or "my goal is to be the fastest ROM, even if stability suffers". Instead each rom seems to be a person who then does some personal tweaks and incorporates the generally available tweaks others have posted.
There's also not a clear change from version to version other than, (hopefully), the release notes which may list "teaked X", "changed Y" which doesn't help me understand if the next build is more stable, smaller, faster, or what.
Also, it's hard to tell the riger put into the software development process. While some ROMs are team built and significantly tested, it's hard to tell which. I assume ACS and Bonsai both have many people testing for many weeks prior to releasing a ROM, but I don't know that. And for the smaller ones, I have no clue.
Ultimately, it would help for someone who has enough experience with each ROM to document the differences. Alternately, a template for ROM developers to fill in each version might help. Something like.
GOAL OF ROM: (if multiple goals, list in order of importance to the developer)
DEVELOPER/DEVELOPERS: (by name, handle, or # of developers)
MAJOR BUILDS INDICATE A CHANGE IN... (time, tweaks, base build, etc)
CODE MANAGEMENT PROCESS: (formal repository, versioning in development package, 1 set of source files edited in VI with no backups or versions)
TEST PROCESS: (length of test, number of test subjects, any stress tests/unique situations/or boundary scenarios included in testing)
SUPPORT OPTIONS: (post on board, email development team, IRC, fire and forget, normal response time, etc)
You need to do what I and most of us did....read the threads following the ROM releases. Every phone is different but if 10 people on the ROM thread report Bluetooth issues and BT is important to you, don't use it. There are no info shortcuts here. Read the ROM threads.
Do you BONSAI?
Unfortunately, it's completely impractical to read through hundreds of posts per ROM to understand the pre-existing bugs with each ROM. Additionally, those bugs are tied to a build. The build they are associated with is usually not apperent from the posts.
The only way to keep up is to skim each rom regularly so you can maintain the current state of each ROM. it doesn't allow people to come in from a cold start and understand what's going on. That would be a good thing to add to the manifest listed above though:
KNOWN OUTSTANDING ISSUES:
REPORTED BUGS:
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Unfortunately, it's completely impractical to read through hundreds of posts per ROM to understand the pre-existing bugs with each ROM. Additionally, those bugs are tied to a build. The build they are associated with is usually not apperent from the posts.
The only way to keep up is to skim each rom regularly so you can maintain the current state of each ROM. it doesn't allow people to come in from a cold start and understand what's going on. That would be a good thing to add to the manifest listed above though:
KNOWN OUTSTANDING ISSUES:
REPORTED BUGS:
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Most of the big developers make an effort to list the large and recurring issues in the first page of the thread. Most other bugs tend to be one-offs caused by a bad flash or failure to wipe data prior. I understand where you're coming from, as I felt the same way when I first jumped in. Mind you, I got the phone in November of 2010, began actively following various threads within a few weeks, gained a vast amount of knowledge on the matter, didn't first root until the EB13 update in February, and didn't even sign up to the forum until March, after which I began helping others with problems I had found answers to months before even making my first post.
I don't preach hypocrisy. I generally criticize an oft-repeated question while also answering it or linking it to one of many long-existent answers. I preach learning by reading. If I tell you how to fix something today, you'll come back with a problem tomorrow because you didn't earn the knowledge for yourself, and you didn't understand what you did. The age-old parable:
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime!"
I strongly suggest everyone read as much as they can to understand as best they can! Take your epic to the toilet and read in your spare time!
While your idea is a noble one, it's a much larger undertaking than you're giving it credit for. Developers would have to collaborate to give a list of specifications, known bugs, etc. to one thread. Someone would have to oversee this thread, take in additional posts to this thread, and append them to the front page continuously. The end result would be roughly what each individual thread already attempts to achieve, with a much larger scale of chaos and a huge problem with out-of-date details.
The list Kenny linked contains a list of known Epic roms and their latest update. You could make this an XDA thread, but I can't say that trying to include every detail and bug beyond that of every rom is a good idea.
That said, look around. Find a Rom. Read about its details. If it sounds good to you, give it a test run! Use what works for you, don't obsess about which one is the "best".
-Written by a man with nothing to do during his lunch break.
No one should be "jumping in cold" and rooting and throwing on ROMs. I got my phone in September, read through posts on ROMs that had features I liked, then 6 weeks later rooted and tried a few ROMs. There are videos now in the General stickies to help cut down on the reading but as stated every phone is different right out of the box. One ROM may cause a messaging issue with a small group whereas another Bluetooth issues. Most developers list known bugs being worked on in the OP.
Do you BONSAI?
try this on youtube
qbking77 on youtube. put in search box 'How to Root Samsung Epic and flash SyndicateFrozenRom 1.1.0/1'. cannot post a link at this time, I'm too new
Actually, I read XDA every day (work's been slow recently). I've rooted my phone and installed more roms than I can count. (Also rooted my wife's and her viewsonic gtab.)
I agree that the major rom builders do a much better job of managing and documenting their development process than most 1-man outfits. However, I still can bearly tell the difference from 1 ROM to the next or 1 build of a ROM to the next. (As far as I can tell, what we have are pretty much the same ROM a dozen different times with slightly different bugs.) A standard for ROM developers to fill in would hopefully help them in focusing their ROM as much as it helps people in understanding the goals of their rom.
As for the effort involved in keeping it up-to-date, most of the worthwhile developers update their main post or start a new one at each major build. Adding some structure to that update wouldn't be a significant increase in hastle.
on a completely separate note, I understand where you are coming from with the "teach them to search" montra. (I helped moderate a very large everquest form for years.)
Since then though, I've realized that, while it's very popular on message boards, it's not very useful. You have to either have a very good understanding of where on a message board to look for the information you are interested in or you need to be a very skilled searcher. Otherwise you end up spending a significant amount of time pouring through poorly summarized search results which don't address your question without knowing if there IS an answer somwhere. While the (here are similar threads) function of vBulletin is reasonably useful, the xda search powered by google is impossible.
Wiki's form a MUCH better way of collecting answers to message boards than bulletin boards do. Unfortunately, you need your WIKI and your forum tightly integrated, (which means a CMS rather than vBulletin + mediawiki). Also, you need forum posters who, after answering a question on the forum, turn right around and post the answer into a wiki page to ensure it was there for the next person
(Actually, it'd be really cool if every Q&A forum on XDA, instead of pointing to a normal forum, pointed to a wiki answers type software install (http://wiki.answers.com/) tailored for XDA. That would hopefully significantly cut down on re-asking of questions. )
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Hi, to this and i'm looking to install a new rom on my Epic 4G but like every person, I am afraid to damage my new equipment.
I'm looking for some stable Roms to flash my Epic but don't know where to look for them with a good description of what does work- what doesn't-what will improve with it... Thing's like that. If anyone can help me, i'll apreciate. =)
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You can look in the development area, the threads are there for the ROMs. Typically the first few posts of a ROM thread will be the information about it. Then read a few of the pages (near the beginning and the last few) to get a feel for what users are experiencing during their use of the ROM.
That should give you the information you're looking for.
Good luck
I would suggest you look into the following excellent ROMs
Midnight v 5.3 which is based on Bonsai. This is my favorite and Rob is very helpful about his and other peoples ROMs
Bonsai itself which you have to go to their site for
Syndicate Frozen 1.1.1 from ACS.
Frankenstein when ecooce finishes the newest one. This is based on the ACS ROM
There are some other ones on here that I just don't know as much about. All of the developers use each others stuff so no matter what you go with it is better than stock.
You will learn a lot from your mistakes when flashing ROMs but the trick is to read a lot through the forums so you can learn from others mistakes.
Samsung Epic Midnight
I also want to let you guys know that I personally flash these ROMS before posting them to make sure they are safe. With that being said, you flash them at your own risk...
*Disclaimer: These builds are in no way meant to replace the nightly builds, just to bridge the gap when the bot isnt building. I am not a dev, and these are not approved by our CM guy. You may post bugs with these builds, in THIS thread only. They will not be addressed, but noted. If you flash these builds, do not post in nemith's "official" thread anything concerning these build's.
OK, lets try this again I deleted the other thread because I didnt want it to be a source of drama for us NS4G owners. Everyone seems to get along here, so far lol. I will build whats in the repo, the chances of things being broken are pretty high. I was fixing things in the previous builds, I wont be doing that this time, these will be straight off the CM git. So, with that here is todays build...only thing Ive found wrong with this is the 4g toggle, of course...
Official gapps HERE
5/31/11
6/2/116/3/11
6/4/11
Well Thanks for the effort
Sweet! Love the freshness
Uncle Jimmy says hello
I would like to see this thread locked, BUT keep the OP updated daily/whenever you update. There is no reason to discuss bugs or things since this is an unofficial build that will change nightly. This thread should just be info and the download imho
Just my .02 anyway.
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I would like to see this thread locked, BUT keep the OP updated daily/whenever you update. There is no reason to discuss bugs or things since this is an unofficial build that will change nightly. This thread should just be info and the download imho
Just my .02 anyway.
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I disagree, keep it open. Not so much a place to discuss the bugs as it is just to post them so people now what to expect. If a build doesnt boot, etc, I would rather someone else find that out and post it. That way 20 people dont have to boot to a very broken or non functional build.
Not to mention every single CM device has a "kang" build thread, that is also left unlocked.
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I would like to see this thread locked, BUT keep the OP updated daily/whenever you update. There is no reason to discuss bugs or things since this is an unofficial build that will change nightly. This thread should just be info and the download imho
Just my .02 anyway.
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I would have no problem with that. I dont think I can edit the OP if its locked though. And there wont necessarily be a build every day. Just under these circumstances, i.e. no build for 4 or 5 days and tons of new commits. Not saying its a common occurance, but it is known to happen.
Fair enough, didnt think of it that way
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I would like to see this thread locked, BUT keep the OP updated daily/whenever you update. There is no reason to discuss bugs or things since this is an unofficial build that will change nightly. This thread should just be info and the download imho
Just my .02 anyway.
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I myself would like to see it stay open. Mikey has done alot for NS4G users and takes time to help others figure out when the help is needed. Whats it going to hurt having this thread, for the users who relate. It's just my opinion as well.
Woohoo. Good to see it open Mikey.
. . NS4G . . CM7 . .
I didn't really think of the not booting / lots of issues / things like that. I know mikey just mentioned something about keeping drama down and I thought it might have been a good idea. Obviously 2 sides to every thought process though. Its one of the reasons I love this forum
Seriously, this is the best section I've seen here at xda. I want it to stay that way. The reason I closed the other thread is because there was concern these builds and this thread would cause issues for nemith in the "official" thread. I don't think that will be the case and ask that everyone do their part to make sure we keep them seperate. Thanks so much guys
So, the build posted is legit. No issues that I've seen. Can't wait for working 4g toggle...
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Thank you for deciding to continue doing this.
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Thank you for deciding to continue doing this.
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Your welcome. There is going to be a very unhappy unnamed dev in these parts
Hey mikey... if you need any load balancing of the KANGs let me know.
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Hey mikey... if you need any load balancing of the KANGs let me know.
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Will do, for sure. Trying to get mbh8787 set up to build too.
I think I got it lol, it built sucessfully but have yet to flash it. Gonna see here in a bit.
Mikey, I think you did this right. Thanks for all you do.
My alarm clock turned itself off twice last night with this rom. That, or I had one weird dream.
Having technical difficulties, if someone else wants to post a build, feel free. Just make sure you dont change anything, and that its not gonna brick anyone You can PM me a link to add to the OP, or post it and I will copy it to the OP along with the name of the builder. This goes for anyone....
i would cept in an act of stupid i wiped my repo out.. syncing again......
There is an article here. Hopefully a leak like this could help us get closer to fully working Vanilla AOSP for our device.
There is already a thread for this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1615590
gotta make sure all the bloatware works properly. the bloatware is so badly coded that 5/14 is probably too early
SGS2 (T989) on CM7_373
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There is already a thread for this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1615590
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Ok so here we go. There are a whole lot of fantastic ROMS out there. But how come none have the whole package. I've seen roms out there with multiview; some with page buddy; some with the Note 2 keyboard, etc. But none with them all.
Is this hard to do. If i could learn how to develop roms i sure would make this. Maybe this is impossible, maybe not.
So here is the challenge: (and its probably not a challange)
We have MB1 odexed and deodexed. That can be our base. after that we can implemnt a number of tested and working mods, to include, but not limited to the ones outlined above. After that we can use morphology or whatever app we want to theme and customize this rom. Not everyone likes the Note 2 keyboard or multiview. But some of us like them all. Or maybe just want them just because we can have them.
So what do you think. Please, if you read this leave a response telling what you would love to have in your rom. Maybe we can get a rom call something like your rom that all the devs can contribute to based on this thread.
THANKS:laugh:
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Ok so here we go. There are a whole lot of fantastic ROMS out there. But how come none have the whole package. I've seen roms out there with multiview; some with page buddy; some with the Note 2 keyboard, etc. But none with them all.
Is this hard to do. If i could learn how to develop roms i sure would make this. Maybe this is impossible, maybe not.
So here is the challenge: (and its probably not a challange)
We have MB1 odexed and deodexed. That can be our base. after that we can implemnt a number of tested and working mods, to include, but not limited to the ones outlined above. After that we can use morphology or whatever app we want to theme and customize this rom. Not everyone likes the Note 2 keyboard or multiview. But some of us like them all. Or maybe just want them just because we can have them.
So what do you think. Please, if you read this leave a response telling what you would love to have in your rom. Maybe we can get a rom call something like your rom that all the devs can contribute to based on this thread.
THANKS:laugh:
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I challenge you to learn to spell challenge and also to just get a Rom with most of them, and the rest are available with simple flash mods.
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I challenge you to learn to spell challenge and also to just get a Rom with most of them, and the rest are available with simple flash mods.
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correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.
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correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.
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here you go Note 2 keyboard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2160021
dutchmaster18 said:
correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.
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Don't flash mods on the wrong roms. Lmao
Cleanbean with multi window mod and the note 2 keyboard provided above should give you every thing you want.
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Can't believe this thread. You haven't searched. Hyper drive port has page buddy, note 2 launcher and keyboard
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png
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Can't believe this thread. You haven't searched. Hyper drive port has page buddy, note 2 launcher and keyboard
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png
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i tried hyperdrive. while its a great rom everything isnt working on it. MMs and 4g
you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
dutchmaster18 said:
you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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It's not that it's a stupid idea, just it's been asked a million times before. What happens is that devs bust there butts for free to give us roms. It's not easy being a dev. I'm not a dev by any means but I know it's not easy.
p.s. Don't say you don't know anything about being a dev, send out a challenge then use words like "we" and "our" when you would have no actual dev help.
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Nice idea there chap.
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dutchmaster18 said:
you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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Don't worry about it, man. Truth is, many people on xda are no talent assholes that get their jollies by berating others. I'm not sure why its the case.
I think this is a good idea but I also agree with strongsteve, perhaps you could try to build it yourself. I have thought to myself, if only I could have a ROM with x, y and z it would be perfect. However, I'm far too busy to learn coding and ROM building right now so I make do with what's available.
I know how you feel about the people around here, I asked a simple question about a certain mod in a ROM thread and was belittled and basically ostracized from that specific community. I don't let it bother me after all, at the end of the day its just an internet forum about phones.
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Don't worry about it, man. Truth is, many people on xda are no talent assholes that get their jollies by berating others. I'm not sure why its the case.
I think this is a good idea but I also agree with strongsteve, perhaps you could try to build it yourself. I have thought to myself, if only I could have a ROM with x, y and z it would be perfect. However, I'm far too busy to learn coding and ROM building right now so I make do with what's available.
I know how you feel about the people around here, I asked a simple question about a certain mod in a ROM thread and was belittled and basically ostracized from that specific community. I don't let it bother me after all, at the end of the day its just an internet forum about phones.
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You are right. I need to learn how to build a rom.
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Best thing to do is make what you want yourself. If you can't do it, don't complain.
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This.... Is the reason that people get so irritated here. This isnt a solution to the issue the person posted... A proper response isnt just telling the op to learn to code. You are on a forum that you are obviously quite active on, providing helpful responses seem to be the common thing to do.
I understand where the op is coming from, and i have ran into this issue many times with many different roms across many phones. Heres my solution to you. Rather then use your base rom as a stock unodexed rom. Would i seem to find to be the best workaround would be to use CM as your base. You are far more likely to have the CM Team push out a version of CM to which ever device you are using. From there you can request certain features and mods tailored to CM. You can then create a supplemental mod section for that version of CM, similar to how we have a morphology section, and have a list of flashables. If you are decent enough you can even create a kitchen or make an updater just for cm that flashes these mods. From there you can create individual titanium backups and re-flash those backups each time you update your CM version.
Your issue that you have with certain roms only being tailored to certain people isnt new. This is the "advantage" that apple fanboys seem to boast about is how all the Iphones can download Any program that anyother stock Iphone has. They claim Fragmentation i call it tailored preferencing. I personally find the note keyboard bulky and i hate it, i am true to swype as im more familiar with it so regardless the rom im on i always just install my swype APK.
I figure this would help out a bit, although i provided no clear solution other then say its a bit easier to tailor a mod to a rom then a rom to a mod.
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This.... Is the reason that people get so irritated here. This isnt a solution to the issue the person posted... A proper response isnt just telling the op to learn to code. You are on a forum that you are obviously quite active on, providing helpful responses seem to be the common thing to do.
I understand where the op is coming from, and i have ran into this issue many times with many different roms across many phones. Heres my solution to you. Rather then use your base rom as a stock unodexed rom. Would i seem to find to be the best workaround would be to use CM as your base. You are far more likely to have the CM Team push out a version of CM to which ever device you are using. From there you can request certain features and mods tailored to CM. You can then create a supplemental mod section for that version of CM, similar to how we have a morphology section, and have a list of flashables. If you are decent enough you can even create a kitchen or make an updater just for cm that flashes these mods. From there you can create individual titanium backups and re-flash those backups each time you update your CM version.
Your issue that you have with certain roms only being tailored to certain people isnt new. This is the "advantage" that apple fanboys seem to boast about is how all the Iphones can download Any program that anyother stock Iphone has. They claim Fragmentation i call it tailored preferencing. I personally find the note keyboard bulky and i hate it, i am true to swype as im more familiar with it so regardless the rom im on i always just install my swype APK.
I figure this would help out a bit, although i provided no clear solution other then say its a bit easier to tailor a mod to a rom then a rom to a mod.
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Thanks for this post. I didnt think anyone would understand where i was comming from. I wasnt asking for a rom, just for maybe a thread or somthing with all possible mods. That way we could use what we want. I personally like the note keyboard, page buddy, and multiview. But there arent any roms out there with all three. And until I made this thread i couldnt find a working note 2 keyboard that worked for our us versions.:good:
dutchmaster18 said:
Thanks for this post. I didnt think anyone would understand where i was comming from. I wasnt asking for a rom, just for maybe a thread or somthing with all possible mods. That way we could use what we want. I personally like the note keyboard, page buddy, and multiview. But there arent any roms out there with all three. And until I made this thread i couldnt find a working note 2 keyboard that worked for our us versions.:good:
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You don't really need a thread with all these mods grouped together. A thorough search would likely land you the apks or zips you're looking for.
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mlin said:
You don't really need a thread with all these mods grouped together. A thorough search would likely land you the apks or zips you're looking for.
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Tbo having a thread dedicated to mods is a great idea that way it would be easier to find mods your looking for it would also help clean up all the thread in the development section as well which make it more focus on roms. Now about search I'm sure a lot of the people on this board use xda from the app which has been a known fact for a very long time to be not very useful. Op great post love the idea.
I love the 90s. Good times.
Now, a thread with all the mods wouldnt be helpful.... HOWEVER a wiki page that lists that particular rom and all the mods that are availible to it that links back into the thread for each mod actually sounds like a viable solution...
dutchmaster18 said:
you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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It's cool man, don't feel bad.
The thing is, everyone's kind of bought into this dev-worship thing and interrupting their circlejerk is definitely a no-no. Unfortunately, it has become a common position to hold that you should shut up, take what you're given, and if you're not happy, learn to do it yourself. This is a fine position when it comes to literally complaining or bashing devs for not implementing 'X' feature...But it has been taken to an extreme by some devs, and most users, that any asking for features be met with harsh criticism and intolerance. Fall in line, take what you're given.
Of course, this is an absurd position to take, one they don't accept in any other facet of their life.
What no one seems to have realized is that, aside from the use of the world challenge, your post wasn't at all contentious. I apologize, on behalf of those of us who are still willing to think, for how the people in this thread have treated you.
As an aside, a genuine thank you to the devs who don't take any chance to jump down the throat of a user who is simply asking for specific features in a rom.
To actually answer the OP...
The closest you would get be to compile the flashable zips of all the features you like for yourself
Put the Note 2 keyboard, multiview, and any other mod that you want into a zip and just have it handy for yourself, thats the best you can do short of porting the remaining stuff over haha
As things go popping up, which I'm sure they will, you can go on adding them to your zip