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How long does it take the devs to root the OTA and slap it into an odin with CWM injected?
Since the OTA starts tomorrow, are we looking at 1 more day? or a week?
edufur said:
How long does it take the devs to root the OTA and slap it into an odin with CWM injected?
Since the OTA starts tomorrow, are we looking at 1 more day? or a week?
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Probably 20 minutes after someone gets the file to a DEV. It doesn't take long to repackage with CWM and root.
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How long until we start seeing new roms based on the official build? I'm on srf now and would like to just wait for a good gb rom to flash.
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glenner444 said:
How long until we start seeing new roms based on the official build? I'm on srf now and would like to just wait for a good gb rom to flash.
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That depends on the DEVs free time. Custom ROM's with all enhancements generally won't be see until full source drops with a tar. This has been generally been done the night of the OTA but so far nothing on Samsung's site except the kernel. You will see themed ROMs with kernel enhancements real soon though. Usually before your get the OTA notification if you are in the last 50% in the queue.
I don't see why you wont be able to just odin acs recovery and then flash su.zip
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i'm hoping this is soon, easiest way for me to do the stupid modem is with odin espeically since i'm on eh17.
qbking77 said:
I don't see why you wont be able to just odin acs recovery and then flash su.zip
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My thoughts exactly.
Afterwards go into your system\app directory (using root explorer) and make some room (delete the Asphalt Demo) and then install BusyBox (busybox installer on the market).
note: my busybox wouldn't go in until after I restarted my phone.
I don't want to fuss with deleting one thing to run another. Seems like the best option is an Odin package but looks like that will be a while. Everyone is focusing on zip packages and multi step processes.
edufur said:
I don't want to fuss with deleting one thing to run another. Seems like the best option is an Odin package but looks like that will be a while. Everyone is focusing on zip packages and multi step processes.
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^this. I'm waiting on a one shot package that will wipe my phone and I can start from fresh.
Right now there are a lot of things I want/need so that's why I'm holding off on updating to GB, if I ever do.
I see fixes for some issues:
Logsprovider
Hotspot hack
No CIQ
Root
Busybox
Super user
But nothing really in one odin .tar file yet.
If you choose to do the OTA, you must Odin a custom kernel before Odin of clockwork or else clockwork won't stick and you will be shot back into stock recovery. I used mkasik's EI22 keyfix kernel but nubernal should work as well.
Not really what you are looking for, but if you get tired of waiting and try to go stock OTA or just flash the google download you will run into that issue which stumped me for a bit.
I'm gonna wait... im just surprised that more people aren't asking about this.
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I'm gonna wait... im just surprised that more people aren't asking about this.
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maybe it's a sign that there aren't that many epic users anymore..
Does anyone know how to achieve temp root with our phone? I just want the official stock with bootloader and everything but with bloat apps removed. Thanks
I posed the same question awhile back. This should answer your queation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1418585&highlight=temp+root
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I posed the same question awhile back. This should answer your queation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1418585&highlight=temp+root
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But that doesn't work with EL29
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Anyone?
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locoboi187 said:
But that doesn't work with EL29
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Read the Auto Root thread, it will give you pointers to get EL29 rooted.
Basically just flash the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature to get root. If you want CWM, use the Auto Root package, Option C, to install EL29+CWM-Rogue.
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Read the Auto Root thread, it will give you pointers to get EL29 rooted.
Basically just flash the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature to get root. If you want CWM, use the Auto Root package, Option C, to install EL29+CWM-Rogue.
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i have used your files always. but i just want to know if there's a temp root for stock like z4 or something. i dont want CWM or anything. im very familiar with your work and very grateful for your work but im looking for a different option where i dont want to keep root
locoboi187 said:
i have used your files always. but i just want to know if there's a temp root for stock like z4 or something. i dont want CWM or anything. im very familiar with your work and very grateful for your work but im looking for a different option where i dont want to keep root
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Hey loco, kinda curious, why exactly are you looking for a temporary root solution?
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jasone4gt said:
Hey loco, kinda curious, why exactly are you looking for a temporary root solution?
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well for some urge, i just want newest bootloaders, official untouched software loaded onto my phone. I'm finding these ROMs to be not as good as stock. For example dialer codes on deodexed ROMS can't do "*#0*#". I just want temp root to gett rid of bloat, apply the tethering mod, and then remove root. I just dont want my files to be pre modified or touched by someone.
There is no root exploit available in the way you want at the moment. However, I can assure you that if you flash the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click, then do whatever cleanup you want, then use Auto Root Option B to unroot, you will be at 100% stock Modem, Kernel, and ROM (except for the changes YOU made)
I'm not sure the distinction you are making is really significant, as adding 3 files to the ROM, doing your thing, then removing them isn't going to result in any "changes" in behavior, certainly not the ones you listed above.
The packages I put together are not custom ROMs. They are the minimum needed to get root. Nothing else is changed. The changes made to add root are completely reversible by running Option B in Auto Root.
sfhub said:
There is no root exploit available in the way you want at the moment. However, I can assure you that if you flash the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click, then do whatever cleanup you want, then use Auto Root Option B to unroot, you will be at 100% stock Modem, Kernel, and ROM (except for the changes YOU made)
I'm not sure the distinction you are making is really significant, as adding 3 files to the ROM, doing your thing, then removing them isn't going to result in any "changes" in behavior, certainly not the ones you listed above.
The packages I put together are not custom ROMs. They are the minimum needed to get root. Nothing else is changed. The changes made to add root are completely reversible by running Option B in Auto Root.
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How come people installing AIO over your EL29 are having issues compared to those who put AIO on Calk's pulled odex stock EL29? Those type of discrepancies get me frustrated. I'm not saying anything is wrong, but idk :/
the issues on the pre-rooted EL29 can be pointed out in the AIO thread
I think i found a way to try out tomorrow.
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
I can use that to keep root after taking an OTA. so i can use auto root from EG30 stock and use that app to preserve root with the OTA
A review from the app:
"Kept Root After Upgrade to Sprint Epic 4G
Epic 4g is the Sprint version of the Galaxy II. I installed the app before doing an OTA upgrade today. I backed up root. I did the over the air upgrade, no more root access. I opened OTA RootKeeper, pressed the button for restore, and I have root again. AMAZING!"
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How come people installing AIO over your EL29 are having issues compared to those who put AIO on Calk's pulled odex stock EL29? Those type of discrepancies get me frustrated. I'm not saying anything is wrong, but idk :/
the issues on the pre-rooted EL29 can be pointed out in the AIO thread
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Well if you want to be nice, you can point me at the posts so I don't have to hunt for them, but I'll look into it.
I don't know what the issue is, but I run MD5 checksums against the product of the EL29 OTA updates against the pre-rooted EL29 and it is a 100% match.
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Well if you want to be nice, you can point me at the posts so I don't have to hunt for them, but I'll look into it.
I don't know what the issue is, but I run MD5 checksums against the product of the EL29 OTA updates against the pre-rooted EL29 and it is a 100% match.
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Honestly those posts came out when you released your EL29 root. I'll hunt for them tomorrow. UMDNJ exams in the morning, sorry.
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sfhub said:
Well if you want to be nice, you can point me at the posts so I don't have to hunt for them, but I'll look into it.
I don't know what the issue is, but I run MD5 checksums against the product of the EL29 OTA updates against the pre-rooted EL29 and it is a 100% match.
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Silence.. Complete silence. LoL. Don't sweat it no need to check Sfhub, all your **** is solid..
I found the posts. I'm looking into it.
Indrid Cole said:
Silence.. Complete silence. LoL. Don't sweat it no need to check Sfhub, all your **** is solid..
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HAHA exactly how I felt. Because of Sfhub's work, I was able to easily root, install CWM + EL13 and finally the Unamed ROM.
I could not in a million years imagine having to write the code or issue the commands to make all that happen.
And then here comes this guy still wet behind the ears ... enough said.
Son... Let me help you out with a few key phrases...
Beggars can't be choosers.
It is what it is.
And I'm Ron Burgundy. Go f*ck yourself, San Diego.
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sfhub said:
I found the posts. I'm looking into it.
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Subscribing to this thread to see if you respond with any updates.
Again... thanks for your awesome work!.
User error......
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User error......
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I agree with you completely 80% of threads on xda are usally user error. Do you know how much actual reading you would have to do the skim through the nonsense people do. If you are running Blazer and flash and AIO for Calks - guess what you may have issues. These are the people posting that nonsense...sfhub dont drive yourself crazy since if he temp roots or regular root he is still changing files ......**smdh**
Developers and Themers who give out great directions in their OP I Thank You
No need to be jerks guys, just stating what I found on other threads
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I'm sorry if the problems were user error
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Hey guys, here is a bone stock system dump for the i317 note for anyone that wants/needs it for whatever purpose. This was acquired from an out of the box AT&T Note II with only Chainfire's initial kernel allowing root adb shell. Before anything I dd'd each partition, here is the system partition (7zipped to cut the size down to 1/3 of the full img). Hope it helps in some way to anyone that needs to dd back a working att i317 system or anyone that wants to start hacking away at it If you need/want any other partition just let me know and I'll upload it. Again this is bone stock dd of mmcblk0p13 before root, so if you mess up you can use adb to dd it back, or convert it to tar (which I'll do in the next day or so if neccisary). Thank BLOWNCO for hosting Hope it helps
http://www.blownco.com/th3g1z/p13.7z
Hey guys,
I'm not sure if you know about DAGr8, but however does, I believe he got his phone, because this is what I found... http://www.blownco.com/DAGr8/
I'm not sure if this is a ROM, but I'll test it!
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Hey guys,
I'm not sure if you know about DAGr8, but however does, I believe he got his phone, because this is what I found... http://www.blownco.com/DAGr8/
I'm not sure if this is a ROM, but I'll test it!
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not anymore
Hey bradah blownco does that mean will be having a smooth watery liquid rom here shortly much alohas
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How do you convert to tar file ? Would I be able to use that with odin then ? Sorry , I am a noob to the Androids way of life. Thanks
Thanks, great to have for reverting back to stock if a warranty situation comes up. Maybe a MOD can move this to the dev section if applicable?
Wait... so how do you install this?
This is a bit by bit img of the system partition of the att note. So you don't exactly install it. Basically you can adb into your phone and use the dd command to write it back to the system partition (mmcblk0p13). My first attempt at making it a tar to use with ODIN failed I will try an alternative method tonight when I'm off work.
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th3g1z said:
This is a bit by bit img of the system partition of the att note. So you don't exactly install it. Basically you can adb into your phone and use the dd command to write it back to the system partition (mmcblk0p13). My first attempt at making it a tar to use with ODIN failed I will try an alternative method tonight when I'm off work.
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Thanks th3g1z for all that your doing . :good: On that stack dump img file , would I just put it on my sd card and then go through the CWM Recovery mode on the phone and install zip from external sd card ?
th3g1z said:
This is a bit by bit img of the system partition of the att note. So you don't exactly install it. Basically you can adb into your phone and use the dd command to write it back to the system partition (mmcblk0p13). My first attempt at making it a tar to use with ODIN failed I will try an alternative method tonight when I'm off work.
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Thanks for trying bro. I am new to android moving from iphone to android and Stuck at CWM recovery. I try to unroot my phone from SU and now cant remove CWM recovery console. My phone works fine but this is the problem. Below is detail explanation of my issue. If you get lucky with any other method to restore system dump back to galaxy note 2 at&t please do let me know.
I have galaxy note 2 i317 AT&T version. I have unrooted my phone but still have CWM recovery left. How I can remove that. I am new to this. I was able to retrive firmware for my device from samsung open source site but not sure how to deploy or flash back to my i317 model using odin.
I was able to download Samsung galaxy note 2 at&t firmware from opensource samsung com but dont know how to deploy or flash to my phone using ODIN. If someone can please advice on some steps or tutorial I will really really appricate.
I just want my phone to be normal the way it was before
th3g1z said:
This is a bit by bit img of the system partition of the att note. So you don't exactly install it. Basically you can adb into your phone and use the dd command to write it back to the system partition (mmcblk0p13). My first attempt at making it a tar to use with ODIN failed I will try an alternative method tonight when I'm off work.
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Th3g1z any luck on that if yes please post instructions thanks lot
I apologize I didn't get to today. It seems you are stuck with CWM and would like to have the stock recovery back? If that is the case, use chain fires cf auto root. This will root your system as well as restore the stock recovery. If you then want a un rooted system, open supersu and use the option to fully unroot. I will try another tarball tomorrow. It appears I need to tar with -H ustar and then convert it to md5 and then hopefully that will do the trick. Ran out of time trying today but I will give it another go tomorrow. I'd rather test it before it fully before posting to minimize any soft bricking, however for anyone able to get to recovery or able to adb as root you can simply use dd to write the img back to system (mmcblk0p13)
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Any chance of someone turning this into a tar file so I can Odin back to stock please?
Bump for the greatness
A stock .tar from this would be very handy and welcome if available. Thanks for the initial system dump OP
Mods, please lock this thread.
Thanks skunk ape!
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Thread stuck!
The zip would not flash in recovery, phone is running the official jellybean.
Any ideas?
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los0325 said:
The zip would not flash in recovery, phone is running the official jellybean.
Any ideas?
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Which zip would not flash in recovery?
The only zip you will flash in recovery is team epic root from recovery. And it must be flashed in the recovery that was installed with Odin.
If you let the phone restart after flashing recovery in Odin the custom recovery will be replaced by the stock recovery.
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Which zip would not flash in recovery?
The only zip you will flash in recovery is team epic root from recovery. And it must be flashed in the recovery that was installed with Odin.
If you let the phone restart after flashing recovery in Odin the custom recovery will be replaced by the stock recovery.
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Omg bro I'm so sorry, I feel like a noob
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los0325 said:
Omg bro I'm so sorry, I feel like a noob
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So you figure it out?
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So you figure it out?
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Yes sir I did thanks
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Will this work with the latest update and does it wipe data?
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Will this work with the latest update and does it wipe data?
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It will not wipe any data and can be used to root any version android on the Sprint gs3.
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It will not wipe any data and can be used to root any version android on the Sprint gs3.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Will give this a go as soon as my wife gives me the ok.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Will give this a go as soon as my wife gives me the ok.
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Really?
If you need anything, I monitor this thread and will provide support if needed.
Thanks!
As a TOTAL noob: appreciate the easy explanation! Waiting to do this myself, but have a few quick questions first. I've done a lot of reading up on rooting but I'm still not entirely clear on a few things so I'm hoping someone can explain it to me like I'm five:
1. Can I accept over-the-air updates from Sprint on a rooted phone? i.e. when they push Android 4.2. If not, do I unroot and reroot to update? Do I have to uninstall everything?
2. Is there something I need to install after doing this? I previously rooted an HTC EVO and remember having to install Superuser immediately after. Anything similar here? Looking to ultimately run wifi tether so any advice toward that end would be greatly appreciated.
3. I'm a little confused about rooting/flashing and some basic definitions. Are they the same thing? I hear a lot about CyanogenMod - what is it and is it coming into play here?
Thanks so much!!
As a TOTAL noob: appreciate the easy explanation! Waiting to do this myself, but have a few quick questions first. I've done a lot of reading up on rooting but I'm still not entirely clear on a few things so I'm hoping someone can explain it to me like I'm five:
1. Can I accept over-the-air updates from Sprint on a rooted phone? i.e. when they push Android 4.2. If not, do I unroot and reroot to update? Do I have to uninstall everything?
This is not going to be a straight up yes or no answer. If an update comes ota to your phone, you will be able to receive it providing you:
1. reflash stock recovery before accepting it.
2. haven't flashed a custom rom
3. haven't removed any required software. The ota will look for certain software and files. if the required software and files aren't present the ota will fail
None of this should concern you though. There are ALWAYS ways to get the updates while being rooted
2. Is there something I need to install after doing this? I previously rooted an HTC EVO and remember having to install Superuser immediately after. Anything similar here? Looking to ultimately run wifi tether so any advice toward that end would be greatly appreciated.
These instructions seem like you are doing many things. You aren't. There are really only 5 steps. I just broke all the steps down in detail. Really all this is:
1. Downloading all the files to your computer
2. Installing your Samsung Drivers to your computer
3. Copying one file to your phones sd or external sd card. (Team_Epic Root_From Recovery)
4. Flashing CWM Recovery to your phone with Odin.
5. Flashing TeamEpic-Root-from-Recovery-v5.zip with CWM Recovery
The Team Epic File that you are flashing in recovery installs superuser, busy box, and in addition removes two files needed to make recovery stick.
3. I'm a little confused about rooting/flashing and some basic definitions. Are they the same thing? I hear a lot about CyanogenMod - what is it and is it coming into play here?
Rooting is really nothing more than giving you the user, the right to access root or system files. It has very little to do with flashing as you can flash updates with stock recovery.
Flashing is simply installing something in a tar, img, or zip format. tar files are flashed with Odin, zips are flashed from recovery and img files are flashed or pushed with adb (Android Debug Bridge)or fastboot.
Cyanogen is a rom. roms are very simply the phones operating system and user interface. They're called roms because their files are kept on read only memory. There are many roms out there for our phone.
Awesome, appreciate the prompt response - thanks so much!!
Thanks!
Thanks for putting this together. My new gs3 arrives tomorrow and I have already prepped my computer with your files in anticipation.
I'll report back how it works out.
Thanks again!
One more thing
When I do get my phone should I activate it first or root it first or does it matter?
I know it voids the warranty but I guess I could unroot to take it in for service if needed?
Thanks again.
brianando said:
When I do get my phone should I activate it first or root it first or does it matter?
I know it voids the warranty but I guess I could unroot to take it in for service if needed?
Thanks again.
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I would activate it.
This works with the 4.1 update, correct?
I previously had the Galaxy S1 (Epic) and went through several custom ROMs before finally going back to a stable release with root because of dissatisfaction with the ROMs. My phone never really returned to perfect functionality after this experimentation, and always had some buggy glitches and many FC's. Now that I have a perfectly running GS3 with Android 4.1, I would love to be able to wifi tether and install apps like adblock and Titanium Backup Pro, but I am hesitant because of my past experience.
Do you think there is any reason at all that simply doing this root procedure would change the functionality of my perfectly smooth-running GS3?
Hey folks,
Is there an app similar to Titanium Backup for phones that are non-rooted? I recently had to revert back to stock in order to get my work e-mail and calendar. I'm looking for something that will create a big backup in which I could easily restore all my apps, settings, and layouts like Titanium Backup does.
Thanks!
Not that I am aware of. You need to be rooted.
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eddylee09 said:
Hey folks,
Is there an app similar to Titanium Backup for phones that are non-rooted? I recently had to revert back to stock in order to get my work e-mail and calendar. I'm looking for something that will create a big backup in which I could easily restore all my apps, settings, and layouts like Titanium Backup does.
Thanks!
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Your Google-Fu is weak, young grasshopper. Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
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Your Google-Fu is weak, young grasshopper. Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
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Forgot about that. However, as that guide states, it's assumed that the user already has the latest Android SDK installed. If someone has not rooted, or is not trying to root, chances are they won't have it. And even if they do, imo it still a simpler process to root and create a nandroid and titanium backup.
But, it does answer the OP's question! There is a way to backup without root. Thanks for posting it as I had completely forgot that was there!
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Forgot about that. However, as that guide states, it's assumed that the user already has the latest Android SDK installed. If someone has not rooted, or is not trying to root, chances are they won't have it. And even if they do, imo it still a simpler process to root and create a nandroid and titanium backup.
But, it does answer the OP's question! There is a way to backup without root. Thanks for posting it as I had completely forgot that was there!
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True, but there are some users that are savvy enough for this guide that do not want a rooted phone for one reason or another. I concur, rooting and running TiBu would be the easier/better way to go.
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True, but there are some users that are savvy enough for this guide that do not want a rooted phone for one reason or another. I concur, rooting and running TiBu would be the easier/better way to go.
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Wouldn't you just need the ADB executable to do this, like the one in my signature?
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Wouldn't you just need the ADB executable to do this, like the one in my signature?
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Based on my experience, Yes. The ADB.exe with the required modules/drivers should work for this shell-type work.
EDIT: I just checked the .zip in your signature for ADB and it includes the .exe and the modules as well as fastboot. This should work as long as the device drivers are installed or available
Thanks for everyone's input!
The problem for me though is that I can't unroot and reroot due to my work e-mail security parameters. I need to always come off a clean slate (to my understanding there isn't a clean way around the root) so I was looking for a method to do a full backup like TiBu but without having to ever root and unroot your device.
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Wouldn't you just need the ADB executable to do this, like the one in my signature?
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Based on my experience, Yes. The ADB.exe with the required modules/drivers should work for this shell-type work.
EDIT: I just checked the .zip in your signature for ADB and it includes the .exe and the modules as well as fastboot. This should work as long as the device drivers are installed or available
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The guide states that it requires the latest SDK, but it's probably just how he gets adb to begin with I guess. I haven't looked real close at it, but I wonder if there'd be a good way to batch script something like this....
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The guide states that it requires the latest SDK, but it's probably just how he gets adb to begin with I guess. I haven't looked real close at it, but I wonder if there'd be a good way to batch script something like this....
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Sure, it could be automated with a simple batch file (with appropriate pauses for phone interaction). I would do it myself, but this wine won't drink itself :laugh:
I don't find such an option to be terribly useful, to be honest.
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Thanks for everyone's input!
The problem for me though is that I can't unroot and reroot due to my work e-mail security parameters. I need to always come off a clean slate (to my understanding there isn't a clean way around the root) so I was looking for a method to do a full backup like TiBu but without having to ever root and unroot your device.
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Would a Custom Recovery be OK? because both CWM and TWRP have Backup/Restore capabilities that would not require Root, just the aftermarket recovery.
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Would a Custom Recovery be OK? because both CWM and TWRP have Backup/Restore capabilities that would not require Root, just the aftermarket recovery.
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I think that would. I used to use TWRP but I was under the impression that I needed to be rooted for this. Am I wrong?
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I think that would. I used to use TWRP but I was under the impression that I needed to be rooted for this. Am I wrong?
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You don't need to be rooted for a custom recovery, just install from ODIN and you're good. This will increase the "binary count" and set the firmware to "custom" if that makes a difference. The stock ROM/FW/Baseband/modem/etc are all left exactly how they were when you started.
DJ_SpaRky said:
You don't need to be rooted for a custom recovery, just install from ODIN and you're good. This will increase the "binary count" and set the firmware to "custom" if that makes a difference. The stock ROM/FW/Baseband/modem/etc are all left exactly how they were when you started.
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Perfect, thanks!
If I need to wipe my binary count, I can just use Triangle Away correct? I don't need to be rooted for that?
eddylee09 said:
Perfect, thanks!
If I need to wipe my binary count, I can just use Triangle Away correct? I don't need to be rooted for that?
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Yes, and Yes, but you can root and run it then "full unroot".
There are other ways (ADB/Fastboot mainly) to install it without "bumping the count". You would need to what partition to install do and it can be complicated, this greatly increases the brick factor, ODIN is much easier/safer.
DJ_SpaRky said:
Yes, and Yes, but you can root and run it then "full unroot".
There are other ways (ADB/Fastboot mainly) to install it without "bumping the count". You would need to what partition to install do and it can be complicated, this greatly increases the brick factor, ODIN is much easier/safer.
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Good morning, I'm sorry to contradict you but, my understanding is that having a custom recovery will bump the flash counter regardless of how it is installed. It also changes the device status to modified.
Both situations can of course be rectified by going back to stock recovery, with root and running triangle away. He then could unroot.
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WhoWhere said:
Good morning, I'm sorry to contradict you but, my understanding is that having a custom recovery will bump the flash counter regardless of how it is installed. It also changes the device status to modified.
Both situations can of course be rectified by going back to stock recovery, with root and running triangle away. He then could unroot.
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Oh, I was under the impression that ODIN was what bumped the count if it was a non-Samsung signed file. Truth be told, I never really looked in to it since it doesn't really matter to me.
No worries. You are half right. Both situations will bump the flash counter with recent firmware. It didn't used to be the case, but with all of the bs Samsung has been pulling, they added the additional check for a custom recovery.
I just got thinking, I think heilium might be able to do a backup on an unrooted phone.
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
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WhoWhere said:
No worries. You are half right. Both situations will bump the flash counter with recent firmware. It didn't used to be the case, but with all of the bs Samsung has been pulling, they added the additional check for a custom recovery.
I just got thinking, I think heilium might be able to do a backup on an unrooted phone.
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
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Koush strikes again, it looks like he has scripted the adb backup (and added some stuff too, I'm sure): http://www.clockworkmod.com/carbon
Instead of all that hair splitting, I am surprised no one has mentioned My Backup Lite (or pro)
That app will do backup like Titanium except without Root. If you have root then there are additional features. But not needed for basic backup.