I was just going through the Marketplace and found three titles that I would love to have on my WP7...
Assasi's Creed, NFS Undercover and The HARVEST.
But, my question is, is there any other place we can download *cough rapidhshare cough* and then put it in the phone through the Zune Software.
So what are the versions of these games and apps???
No. Stop being a cheapskate and buy them if you like them. The great thing about WP7 marketplace is that you can try before you buy, so that argument for piracy is completely out the window.
emigrating said:
No. Stop being a cheapskate and buy them if you like them. The great thing about WP7 marketplace is that you can try before you buy, so that argument for piracy is completely out the window.
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Piracy?? Excuse me...every OS hacked and ported to other devices is a pirated piece of software...and yes, I WILL buy them....was just asking...
Technically it's not Pircay to port a mobile OS to another handset if the OS isn't available to purchase for that handset.
But what you're asking for is most definately. You have 950 posts, i would have thought you'd have know this forum doesn't accept any form of piracy discussion.
Audio said:
Technically it's not Pircay to port a mobile OS to another handset if the OS isn't available to purchase for that handset.
But what you're asking for is most definately. You have 950 posts, i would have thought you'd have know this forum doesn't accept any form of piracy discussion.
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I thought if we could port OSes, then why not Apps...it was a mistake and I apologize.
I obviously didn't do it on purpose.
If you were a developer who had made an application that you sunk you hard time and work into then to see it being pirated would just be awful! as steve balmer once said! DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
Just figured I would throw my two cents in on this thread.
I bought Assassin's Creed, MAx & the Magic Marker, NFS and Rise of Glory and they all run very well on the Focus.
Some of the top mobile games I have ever played.
porting an OS to an unsupported device is legal yes... the use of the OS however is illegal as you did not pay for the OS that you're running on the unsupported device. even if you own a windows phone 7 device, and ported the OS off that, you're now running it on 2 devices, meaning you should have 2 licences. given you only bought 1 phone with the licence built in, you're running the second copy illegally.
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porting an OS to an unsupported device is legal yes... the use of the OS however is illegal as you did not pay for the OS that you're running on the unsupported device. even if you own a windows phone 7 device, and ported the OS off that, you're now running it on 2 devices, meaning you should have 2 licences. given you only bought 1 phone with the licence built in, you're running the second copy illegally.
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Thanx a lot..thats what I meant..anyways...
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What part of this rule isn't clear to you? Let me highlight the "between the lines" bits that you should have picked up on ...
9. Don't get us in trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does not mean we agree with everything the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.
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Instead of whining about what WP7S isn't going to be (because Microsoft surely won't change their plans and development anymore) let's start to develop and hack this thing.
The most important question for the developers here would be: How to install apps without going through the marketplace. Just as we did it ever before here on XDA-Devs with cabs.
Because I am not alone when I say I'm not ready to pay 75$ a year for a marketplace developer subscription just to release my small just-for-fun freeware app.
Maybe there is already someone out there who figured it out...
EMBRACE CHANGE!
You can just load it with XNA Studio. I do it all the time with my Zune.
Then let's hope that this will still work for WP7S.
There's an option to deploy your project in VS too to deploy to a device, so I presume thats how you would install a non market place app
All phones will be "locked." It appears that only developers who pay the $99/yr fee will be able to unlock their device(s).
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There's an option to deploy your project in VS too to deploy to a device, so I presume thats how you would install a non market place app
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Yes, but this only works with projects for which you have the source code. And this is only for debugging.
I hope someone will hack this, so that we free developers can just post our xap and all users can install it on their phones without marketplace.
Or Microsoft should rethink their business plans for marketplace. Free Apps should stay free. The developers are already spending a lot resources to develop freeware apps. Why forcing them to pay 99$/yr, too??
It's ok for devs who wants to earn money with their app. Or for advertisers who create free apps just to advertise their company. But not for private free-time devs.
If Microsoft is able to do it for students then why not for all other freeware developers who doesn't want to sell their apps for different reasons (open source etc...).
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It appears that only developers who pay the $99/yr fee will be able to unlock their device(s).
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I keep hearing about it. Is there a definitive source for this information?
Cipher said:
Instead of whining about what WP7S isn't going to be (because Microsoft surely won't change their plans and development anymore) let's start to develop and hack this thing.
The most important question for the developers here would be: How to install apps without going through the marketplace. Just as we did it ever before here on XDA-Devs with cabs.
Because I am not alone when I say I'm not ready to pay 75$ a year for a marketplace developer subscription just to release my small just-for-fun freeware app.
Maybe there is already someone out there who figured it out...
EMBRACE CHANGE!
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For my know,M$ allows business user install xap without Marketplace, so I am sure xda brother can find the way to do that
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I keep hearing about it. Is there a definitive source for this information?
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I spoke with a Microsoft employee (Technical Evangelist Developer Platform & Strategy Group) at CeBIT this month and he told me that. He also told me that he himself is not happy about this decision especially for all those freeware developers.
Well, that sucks. They could have avoided users relying to hacking their devices to do basic stuff. Jailbreaking, cracked DRM and piracy it is then. They made their choice.
The various presentations at MIX mention developers unlocking their devices for deployment.
It's important to note that a lot of the marketplace details are still up in the air. The pricing may change. They've specifically stated that they haven't decided on the 5app (or is it 3, I forget) limit. They very well may allow developers to sign up for a free account and only publish free apps with no advertising. We shall see.
I'm sure they are having much more heated discussions about it than we here are.
Cipher said:
I spoke with a Microsoft employee (Technical Evangelist Developer Platform & Strategy Group) at CeBIT this month and he told me that. He also told me that he himself is not happy about this decision especially for all those freeware developers.
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Hey my Friends,
let me ask this question: I'm using an HTC HD2 with a Windows 7. I love it, but the camera is really bullsh..!
So I found an XAP, what gives me the full camera option.
Does it means, that I have to pay Microsoft, to put this App on? Or is there another way to install it on my phone?
This is not really hacking, because if I can't use my cam, I have to go back to the android system. That will hurt Microsoft even more?!?
Please let me know about your oppinions
Thanks
KegelS said:
Hey my Friends,
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I'm using an HTC HD2 with a Windows 7
<snip>I have to go back to the android system. That will hurt Microsoft even more?!?
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How will it hurt Microsoft for you to stop using their OS when you haven't paid for a licence for it?
So now that the HTC Arrive has come out (with NoDo installed on it), how long till someone gets one an takes a crack at 'jailbreaking' it like ChevronWP7 did before?
My apologies to ~~Tito~~ for misplacing my thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12252216#post12252216).
Will be more careful in the future.
you do realize that the release isn't even a week old right? matter of fact make that 3-days. On top of that, the official release for NoDo hasn't even been release.
An old article but I thought it was relivant.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/new-windows-phone-7-jailbreak-in-the-pipeline/11047
Soon we will have another tool to jailbreak our WP7s.. This is suppose to be much more reliable becasue it does not allow Microsoft to re lock the device.
"The tool also allows users to manage their applications, explore devices, create device backups, add ring-tones and sync favorites."
I cant wait to download!!!!
Schaps told us on his page that he will NOT include his jailbreak tool...
Because I was bored getting hundreds of emails from people asking me to send them WP Device Manager so they can continue to use pirated applications, and because there will be a short term solution for homebrews, I decided not to include my jailbreak tool. I respect other developers and I don’t want to be responsible for piracy, I’ve been contacted by Brandon Watson from Microsoft and I wish to be involved in the official homebrew support on Windows Phone.
found on touchxperience.com
Well, the less piracy a OS has the more developers will be inclined to develop for it. If you were going to sell your software and new that on one platform it was very difficult to pirate your software, you would be more inclined to support that platform.
that's not necessarily true, there are other factors beside piracy that a developer considers such as # of users, incentive, etc, in fact i have never heard a dev quote piracy as a concern
but anyway, unlock does not have to mean piracy, it's just business and a way of overprotection to keep the os tight and closed - in fact with chevron we've seen more innovations from our own community than from microsoft, one of the biggest being the instant multitasking
cyclical said:
Well, the less piracy a OS has the more developers will be inclined to develop for it. If you were going to sell your software and new that on one platform it was very difficult to pirate your software, you would be more inclined to support that platform.
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that is just wrong windows as an OS has got to have more software combined then Linux and Apple, also I havent even taken into account the fact that the IPHONE is basically a pirating device, the term "jail break" originally comes from the iphone so I dont know what you are smoking when you say piracy would reduce the amount of developers on a platform.
you need to stop drinking that developer kool-aid my friend
Julien's tool has web server code in it, so it's reasonable to assume he was going to attempt a similar trick that we employed in Chevron. (i.e. No, he likely doesn't have anything that will work either.)
Hi
I'm going to say the WP8 details.
1.No Wifi Because of copyright law
2.No Bluetooth Because of copyright law
3.No File Explorer Because of copyright law
4.No Sync with PC Because of copyright law
5.No Ringtone Because you download them and Ignoring the copyright law
6.No Internet Because you will Ignore the copyright law
7.No Camera Because you can shot something somewhere that ignore the copyright law
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1000.No LCD Because you see something on other phone and ignore the copyright law
1001.No OS Because you can copy somethings from Our OS and ignore the copyright law
1002.No Handset Because you will Ignore All of the above
if somethings released from MS I will add here.
do not forget THANKS.
I hate to even reply, but that's one of the worst posts I've ever read.
Tempest790 said:
I hate to even reply, but that's one of the worst posts I've ever read.
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Why so serious? I found it rather amusing.
Panties in a tissy in 3,2,1.....
Apple rep responds that MS is copying them with such a minimalistic design ansd that they 1st came up with less is more.
While MS and Apple lawyers argue over who owns what and how it can get implemented in future technologies Linux coders figure out how to remove all of these features from android and release it in 6 hours.
even with android streamlined with the above features removed users continue to load every app they can find on there devices and then complain that the new variant is slow and sluggish.
Att responds that these new features requires them to buy sprint and Verizon otherwise they wont be able to support iphon6..
This is simply Flame Bait, could someone please close it down or change the title to something more fitting.
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Apple rep responds that MS is copying them with such a minimalistic design ansd that they 1st came up with less is more.
While MS and Apple lawyers argue over who owns what and how it can get implemented in future technologies Linux coders figure out how to remove all of these features from android and release it in 6 hours.
even with android streamlined with the above features removed users continue to load every app they can find on there devices and then complain that the new variant is slow and sluggish.
Att responds that these new features requires them to buy sprint and Verizon otherwise they wont be able to support iphon6..
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your sword of satire is sharp and dangerous !
lol
They won't call it WP8 either. "W,P" infringes the alphabet....which Apple recently acquired the copyrights to. "8" infringes future quantum computing, which Google now owns the rights to.
MartyLK said:
They won't call it WP8 either. "W,P" infringes the alphabet....which Apple recently acquired the copyrights to. "8" infringes future quantum computing, which Google now owns the rights to.
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From it's flamebait beginnings, this has become probably the most amusing (and in a n ironic sense, the most factually accurate) thread on the entirety of the WP7 section.
hi
My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
I have a HTC 7 PRO and I love wp7 but it has many and many disadvantages.
We are talking about Microsoft not a small company.
Ask yourself why and why after wm6.x that have everything , wp7 comes more and more weaker than ago ?????
Thanks for Understanding.
Everyone must have capacity to hear opposite ideas.
If everyone tried to spend her/his energy to press THANKS button it was more effective for all of us.
Thanks for understanding
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hi
My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
I have a HTC 7 PRO and I love wp7 but it has many and many disadvantages.
We are talking about Microsoft not a small company.
Ask yourself why and why after wm6.x that have everything , wp7 comes more and more weaker than ago ?????
Thanks for Understanding.
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Actually, I don't understand
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arses said:
My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
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There were no critics, no humor. Not funny just stupid.
P.S. We definitely need an "Unlike" button on forums; if unlike level reaches some threshold, thread should be automatically moved to the "junk" or "trash" forum, and OP should receive -1 to his reputation (i.e. "Thanks Meter")
sensboston said:
There were no critics, no humor. Not funny just stupid.
P.S. We definitely need an "Unlike" button on forums; if unlike level reaches some threshold, thread should be automatically moved to the "junk" or "trash" forum, and OP should receive -1 to his reputation (i.e. "Thanks Meter")
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Totally Agree! XD
arses said:
hi
My dear friends it's just a Critical humor
I have a HTC 7 PRO and I love wp7 but it has many and many disadvantages.
We are talking about Microsoft not a small company.
Ask yourself why and why after wm6.x that have everything , wp7 comes more and more weaker than ago ?????
Thanks for Understanding.
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Windows Mobile was an ugly pile of laggy slow ****.
If they had stayed with it, the OS would be (and was) dead in the water, not to mention looking like it was perpetually 1998.
You can't seriously think that wm had any redeeming qualities that would be an excuse to keep supporting it??
sure haven't said:
Windows Mobile was an ugly pile of laggy slow ****.
If they had stayed with it, the OS would be (and was) dead in the water, not to mention looking like it was perpetually 1998.
You can't seriously think that wm had any redeeming qualities that would be an excuse to keep supporting it??
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Not really. My experience with WinMo is quite good. In fact, I would say WinMo can be smoother and faster than Android. But there are things a person has to do first. The foundation of a good mobile OS is there in WinMo. It's just that MS didn't support it like they should have. MS didn't work out the bugs and finesse WinMo to the level it could be.
I've reinstalled WinMo on my HD2 and have been surprised how well is can be compared to Android. But I'm using a custom version and the dev clearly was able to bring out the best in WinMo. Anyone experiencing lagginess and slowness hasn't attempted to remedy it with the available fixes.
Well , I'm sorry to say this but I seriously feel that Chevron was/is a utter failure on the face of WP7 community.
As a WinPhone7 User I expected Chevron to
1. Unlock to install as many apps from Marketplace.
2. Unlock /Activate my Phone to enable it to use with Marketplace.
But at the end it turned out that,
He released it as a Subscription tool with payment, (Although I agree that the infrastructure to unlocking costed the developer).But selling up you service to Microsoft in turn spoiled the little meaning .
Atleast not making the process or idea behind the hack open source after going broke with the earlier idea really hampers or insults the xda team.
Learn from iOS hackers who released Cydia,Cinject,Redsnow,Absynth. you can find it opensourced and its legal.
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As a WinPhone7 User I expected Chevron to
1. Unlock to install as many apps from Marketplace.
2. Unlock /Activate my Phone to enable it to use with Marketplace.
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What are you talking about? You can install any Marketplace app but of course you should pay for the apps first!
Chevron was designed for developers, who are not students and can't afford $99 annual subscription (but definitely not for regular users who want to pirate and sideload apps).
P.S. BTW, it's completely wrong forum, you should "cry" in General, not in "Development and Hacking"
You are completely lost man. LOL
What the f** are you talking about?
Moved to General...
Chevron unlocking was intended for developers and not hacking or pirating software. The only reason Microsoft agreed to it was to try and get people that were on the fence or located in countries that the marketplace didn't support to start developing for WP. In that regard, it was a failure and shut down because people used the service for something it was never intended for.
shreedharcva said:
Well , I'm sorry to say this but I seriously feel that Chevron was/is a utter failure on the face of WP7 community.
As a WinPhone7 User I expected Chevron to
1. Unlock to install as many apps from Marketplace.
2. Unlock /Activate my Phone to enable it to use with Marketplace.
But at the end it turned out that,
He released it as a Subscription tool with payment, (Although I agree that the infrastructure to unlocking costed the developer).But selling up you service to Microsoft in turn spoiled the little meaning .
Atleast not making the process or idea behind the hack open source after going broke with the earlier idea really hampers or insults the xda team.
Learn from iOS hackers who released Cydia,Cinject,Redsnow,Absynth. you can find it opensourced and its legal.
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What phone do you have? Have you checked the forms to see if there is a custom rom avilable for your phone? I did and I found it; went and cancelled my stupid dev account right after that too.
Ren13B said:
Chevron unlocking was intended for developers and not hacking or pirating software. The only reason Microsoft agreed to it was to try and get people that were on the fence or located in countries that the marketplace didn't support to start developing for WP. In that regard, it was a failure and shut down because people used the service for something it was never intended for.
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Spot on.
If you were using Chevron simply so you could pirate apps, you're doing it wrong. As an RD mentioned above, what it was designed for and what it ended up being used for (in some cases) are two different things.
Thread closed.
Wondering if it's worthwhile before I invest time in creating a Mac OS X VM + Xcode to port my android apps to iOS.
lapucele said:
Wondering if it's worthwhile before I invest time in creating a Mac OS X VM + Xcode to port my android apps to iOS.
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just realised this may be the wrong subforum to post the above question. Could this thread be moved?
lapucele said:
just realised this may be the wrong subforum to post the above question. Could this thread be moved?
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Actually I clicked on here thinking myself that this was for "application porting" as I came from the front page, and then it wasn't till I saw you replied to your own thread with the above that I realised? I think there is a bug in the forums, not you posting in the incorrect location?
Anyway to discuss your topic, I have recently downloaded all the necessary stuff to do as you are considering. One thing to be careful of is the fact that Apple from my understanding will give you their wrath if they find out.
Apple software is ONLY to be run on Apple hardware, If they find out (and they have their ways from what I have heard) you instantly banned for life. I guess nothing stopping you starting again, but remember your app is pulled and you kind of couldn't get away with releasing it under a different name account again later on without them knowing?
There's always the cydia market place which I hear is still fairly profitable...up until recently I wasn't even aware that is was a paid market place, I had always been of the impression that it was a hackers market for people who 1) mod their device tweak it like us android users 2) jailbroken (but stock and no alternative to iTunes) 3) People who pirate apps.
However i have learned that it has quite a following an even some developers release on both iTunes and Cydia.
Anyway just my thoughts. I am in contact with a developer that is into the whole cydia thing so if you have any questions you want answers for give me a holla
James
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Actually I clicked on here thinking myself that this was for "application porting" as I came from the front page, and then it wasn't till I saw you replied to your own thread with the above that I realised? I think there is a bug in the forums, not you posting in the incorrect location?
Anyway to discuss your topic, I have recently downloaded all the necessary stuff to do as you are considering. One thing to be careful of is the fact that Apple from my understanding will give you their wrath if they find out.
Apple software is ONLY to be run on Apple hardware, If they find out (and they have their ways from what I have heard) you instantly banned for life. I guess nothing stopping you starting again, but remember your app is pulled and you kind of couldn't get away with releasing it under a different name account again later on without them knowing?
There's always the cydia market place which I hear is still fairly profitable...up until recently I wasn't even aware that is was a paid market place, I had always been of the impression that it was a hackers market for people who 1) mod their device tweak it like us android users 2) jailbroken (but stock and no alternative to iTunes) 3) People who pirate apps.
However i have learned that it has quite a following an even some developers release on both iTunes and Cydia.
Anyway just my thoughts. I am in contact with a developer that is into the whole cydia thing so if you have any questions you want answers for give me a holla
James
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wow thanks for the heads up! i've heard varying stories too. i totally didn't think of the 3rd party app stores.
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wow thanks for the heads up! i've heard varying stories too. i totally didn't think of the 3rd party app stores.
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Just thought I'd mention as I only heard yesterday, but the newest edition of the app store for Apple is called AppCake for Apple. Apparently Apple is now going about systematically shutting down every 3rd party non-apple owned store including the non so legitimate suppliers of of Apple after market hardware products. That means everyone with anything that connects to an apple product that isn't apple or made by apple is a target. Geeese they don't let up do they? Developers mention that Apple will never be able to shut them down :silly: that they can and will do what they like with their iDevices cause they own them.
Oh and other thing to look out for if you go to Apple/iTunes, is this company Lodsys who are world renowned for being patent trolls who are systematically targeting individual developers for breaches in copy right for, get this......'in app purchasing' they claim that they invented it and are now suing several developers from iTunes (them personally) for using the iTunes supplied SDK for in app purchasing. Apple is doing the right thing and trying to defend these developers but the World IP org and US patents office can't do a god damned thing about it until things hurry up and get pushed through a ballot of senators to have groups like them shut down. Until then they are working their best and fastest with trying to sue as many people as they can! Unfortunately for most its a loosing battle as they don't have the money or resources to fight these bastards so they end up paying up. In an new interview I heard one company claimed it was cheeper to settle for 100K out of court than what it was to commit to defending them selves even though this group targeting them was 100% wrong.
But not meaning to scare you...or anything just keeping you filled in. Me personally I would write them a letter saying 4 words on one line followed by 4 words on a second line "Go f*%# your self" "See you in court" and go seek one of my dad's barrister friends to do it no win no fee. Screw that. I would be flaunting that I have in app purchasing sayin come at me bro
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/04/app-developers-lodsys-back
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/05/hey-patent-trolls-pick-someone-your-own-size
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/...t-patent-trolls-and-not-going-take-it-anymore
Jarmezrocks said:
Actually I clicked on here thinking myself that this was for "application porting" as I came from the front page, and then it wasn't till I saw you replied to your own thread with the above that I realised? I think there is a bug in the forums, not you posting in the incorrect location?
Anyway to discuss your topic, I have recently downloaded all the necessary stuff to do as you are considering. One thing to be careful of is the fact that Apple from my understanding will give you their wrath if they find out.
Apple software is ONLY to be run on Apple hardware, If they find out (and they have their ways from what I have heard) you instantly banned for life. I guess nothing stopping you starting again, but remember your app is pulled and you kind of couldn't get away with releasing it under a different name account again later on without them knowing?
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No you guys are right. This is for porting apps across platforms, but people seem to confuse it with ROM porting.
Q. I know pretty much zero about iOS, and generally have always been anti apple. Are you trying to say that using something like j2 on lets say a virtual box on windows, is somehow a detectable and bannable offense in apple land? It's late and i might be just be misreading, but would like to know.
Mostly because i picked up a job on an Android app, and have been talking a bit about putting the app out for iphones after I finish up the android version, but don't really know where to begin.
out of ideas said:
No you guys are right. This is for porting apps across platforms, but people seem to confuse it with ROM porting.
Q. I know pretty much zero about iOS, and generally have always been anti apple. Are you trying to say that using something like j2 on lets say a virtual box on windows, is somehow a detectable and bannable offense in apple land? It's late and i might be just be misreading, but would like to know.
Mostly because i picked up a job on an Android app, and have been talking a bit about putting the app out for iphones after I finish up the android version, but don't really know where to begin.
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My Research and Understanding
Yes that is exactly what I am saying. To run Apple in a VM is in breach of their TOS and Usage policy. It also entitles them to seek prosecution also; so not just a ban from iTunes. Going by Apples past history I wouldn't put it past them? Although now with Tim Cook in charge of things I think Apple is going about things a bit more differently now? For better or worse (people had their opinions of Steve Jobs - personally I disliked him but did appreciate his success and achievements for what they stacked up to be, personal opinions aside it takes a great person to do such) Apple is starting to become a bit more valued in collaborations as this is what Tim Cook always wanted working for Apple that he was never able to have whilst Steve was the master of the helm. Tim Cook was more about getting the job done and sharing. Steve's ongoing vendetta litigations were not Tim Cooks choice and/or advice. He didn't want such things from what I have read? More recently his involvement in legal matters has been observed as retracted and no confronting; he has proceeded to do these actions as part of Steve Jobs dying wishes and nothing more.
As far as I can tell he wants to nothing more than to get things out of the way and over and done with so that he and his company can move on.
My thoughts on this as an observer in the mobile tech industry is that I think Apple has dropped the ball a bit, and it is probably far too little far too late. However with a company with that much money behind it? There's only speculations about what holds in the future of Apple? They are certainly not going away or going to fall in to ruins that's for certain.
What I mean is that, yes there has been a heap of legal stuff seen by Apple and most of it very negative, but my feeling is that this won't be the case here on into the future, so the likelihood of facing a court for breach of Terms of Use are likely to be very small. I am sure that editing a build.prop is considered a breach of Google's TOS for use of a device in their Playstore?
Suggestions
My suggestion is to give it a try I have had some issues setting up my VM but have got all the necessary resources including all the software. I have just become too busy and it is not high on the priority list at the moment. I wanted to try gain an understanding of how Apple detects it's visitors. I mean iTunes is cross platform Windows and Mac (There is no release for Ubuntu or Linux AFAIK? only Wine type hacks) I know when I visit the iTunes webpage I am automatically prompted to download a Windows installer package. So they must have some form of automatic detection? Being that the likes of Virtualbox uses a shared internet connection I would speculate that you would need to choose the correct adapter settings so that your VM is seen to be a running physical machine and not a able to be identified as a shared connection or virtualised connection?
I didn't get this far as my installation has many issues. I still have the VM though for future interest. Feel free to PM me if you give it a try and don't succeed and I am happy to share what things I discovered in my problem solving.
Understanding Limitations for Cross Platform Mobile Development
As for the porting to OS's I believe there are many offerings around now that provide developers with a cross platform arrangement. Essentially only the UI resources need to change and then that plugs into a framework structure for your application to run in. You compile the code individual applications that are specific to the platform but you ARE able to develop your main code independent of the platforms. Languages such as Flex or Rubi on rails are going to be your best bet from my research?
Things You Should Consider
1. Single code repository
2. Individual application frameworks - compilation of application runtime for independent OS type
3. Limitations are stipulated and governed by what is allow at the lowest possible denominator. i.e. You can only build code into your single code repository that can accessed by the functionality of both(or all) platforms. What I mean is that there is no use building a single code repository that uses a function that is limited on one platform and not the other, another example is restrictions dictated to you by the likes of such companies like Apple. They have a strict guidelines and what is potentially available to you may not be in its context. Just because certain functionality is available to you in the Apple platform and you have even seen it in use on Apple devices does not necessarily mean that you can build and release it. In it's context Apple may not like what you are doing with your app and not approve it.
Your single point of code and it entirety has just shrunk in functionality to both devices now. So be careful and Anticipate what you might think the outcome is for your Application facing such scrutinisation and what it could possibly mean for your project as a whole?
On this note I have heard of developers making scripts and add-ons for their said central repository that allows them to restrict things ats compile time. For instance having greyed out selections in menus and a toast like notification to users like "Sorry this functionality is only available to Android users" and things like that.
Hope this helps contribute towards people considering on such ventures. Do your research. Find out what types of apps have been rejected from being published and find the reasons for why?
lapucele said:
Wondering if it's worthwhile before I invest time in creating a Mac OS X VM + Xcode to port my android apps to iOS.
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I will check it in next week