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Currently I'm an HD2 user. I like the fact that Android has started to port onto the HD2. Still I know it's a long ways from being done or close to done and so far the only one I can think of being anywhere near done is the TP and TP2. Both have been out long enough to at least have the Android port worked on for a longer time. While I do read that it's good a lot of Android phone users suggest that the porting comes no where near close to how well the real Android phones work. Is this true? As far as apps and functionality and comparability goes how close is the Android port to the real thing? Would some of you rather have a real Android phone instead of this?
Phenomenon said:
Currently I'm an HD2 user. I like the fact that Android has started to port onto the HD2. Still I know it's a long ways from being done or close to done and so far the only one I can think of being anywhere near done is the TP and TP2. Both have been out long enough to at least have the Android port worked on for a longer time. While I do read that it's good a lot of Android phone users suggest that the porting comes no where near close to how well the real Android phones work. Is this true? As far as apps and functionality and comparability goes how close is the Android port to the real thing? Would some of you rather have a real Android phone instead of this?
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The closest to a native Android device would be the vogue. They pretty much have functionality everywhere and even flash to nand. In comparison we aren't too far behind as the things we are currently lacking is the camera.
Obviously there are bugs here and there but its still usable. Older builds are more stable and we've just recently jumped onto 2.2 Froyo so it will take some time to fix the bugs. We've actually accomplished something great and actually surpass a native android phone in benchmark scores even though our devices aren't hugely optimized. I've seen the HD2 video booting XDANDROID; i've even posted it in our 2.1 thread and from what i see its was running pretty quick during the SetupWizard. cough* cough* ...snapdragon ;p
Lastly yes i would never go back to WM or even get an iphone. I've bought a nexus one and have never looked back. From what i see once you go Android you don't go back and at Google IO they certainly showed us why.
I would love to start adding support for HD2 for XDANDROID. But i'm currently busy with my new role as Moderator
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The closest to a native Android device would be the vogue. They pretty much have functionality everywhere and even flash to nand. In comparison we aren't too far behind as the things we are currently lacking is the camera.
Obviously there are bugs here and there but its still usable. Older builds are more stable and we've just recently jumped onto 2.2 Froyo so it will take some time to fix the bugs. We've actually accomplished something great and actually surpass a native android phone in benchmark scores even though our devices aren't hugely optimized. I've seen the HD2 video booting XDANDROID; i've even posted it in our 2.1 thread and from what i see its was running pretty quick during the SetupWizard. cough* cough* ...snapdragon ;p
Lastly yes i would never go back to WM or even get an iphone. I've bought a nexus one and have never looked back. From what i see once you go Android you don't go back and at Google IO they certainly showed us why.
I would love to start adding support for HD2 for XDANDROID. But i'm currently busy with my new role as Moderator
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buts thats interesting. You said you got a Nexus One is that because you just felt like the android porting for this phone wasn't good enough?
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buts thats interesting. You said you got a Nexus One is that because you just felt like the android porting for this phone wasn't good enough?
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I got a nexus one because its cool and has great specs and also because of the android ports. You cant stay on the same phone forever and it was time for me to upgrade and at the time TP2 or topaz didn't interest me. So i decided to wait for N1
For me it is very close to replacing WM on my raph110. Really, battery life issue is holding me back. I can turn off sync and run as "just a phone" for a long time, but as soon as I start to use it as a smartphone, I better make sure I am near a power supply.
As a phone its better than winmo IMO, making and receiving calls and SMS is downright clunky in WM compared to these android builds.
All it would take for me to switch is the ability to run with sync on, and use some moderate smartphone-y features here and there for an entire day and I am set. At the moment I use android when I am plugged in, then reboot into WM when I know I am going to be away from power for a length of time.
Compared to other android phones I have played with, the raph seems downright speedy. Most time when I have played with android phones they seem laggy and slow, where my phone with these android builds seems much more responsive and mostly lag free. I have considered picking up an Aria if I come across a cheap one but only because of the battery thing and no other reason.
To give you more info I have a Fuze (raph110) and run NRG's WM 6.5.5 / SenseUI 2.5 ROMs.
The best part of this project is you run WinMo in tandem - Android is simply running off of the SD card, so there's virtually nothing that would break your phone or SD card permanently. All of the outright hardware failures I've seen in any forum related to this project has been a simple hardware failure - nothing with Android broke the device basically.
So try it out! You've got nothing to lose. Then you'll have a much better idea of how 'functional' it is
Well I have tried it on the HD2, but nothing is exactly functional to say the least. I mean, it runs, but not much else to say about it. I wonder when they port and finish being able to get the antennae working, gps, camera, wifi, bt, etc. what all that will mean as far as how functional it will be. Will programs be able to be installed and USE all the functional devices? Games supposedly need OpenGl to work and I bet that is another can of worms. I'm all for it working and everything, but I wonder if when the project ends will it be that much better or am I better off getting a Nexus One in the end.
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Well I have tried it on the HD2, but nothing is exactly functional to say the least. I mean, it runs, but not much else to say about it. I wonder when they port and finish being able to get the antennae working, gps, camera, wifi, bt, etc. what all that will mean as far as how functional it will be. Will programs be able to be installed and USE all the functional devices? Games supposedly need OpenGl to work and I bet that is another can of worms. I'm all for it working and everything, but I wonder if when the project ends will it be that much better or am I better off getting a Nexus One in the end.
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Well I don't know if it'll *ever* be truly perfect compared to native devices... but looking at a) what we have working on our TP's and b) what the vogue guys have working on their devices....
Basically it looks like it'll be darned close to having an actual Android device... which is amazing, to say in the least. I'm not sure how long the vogue's battery lasts, but other than that and camera, our devices are fairly complete on the hardware front. Vogue's even have a functional camera!
3d is also working, so OpenGL will not be a problem It's just a matter of getting the 3d drivers for the GPU!
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Well I don't know if it'll *ever* be truly perfect compared to native devices... but looking at a) what we have working on our TP's and b) what the vogue guys have working on their devices....
Basically it looks like it'll be darned close to having an actual Android device... which is amazing, to say in the least. I'm not sure how long the vogue's battery lasts, but other than that and camera, our devices are fairly complete on the hardware front. Vogue's even have a functional camera!
3d is also working, so OpenGL will not be a problem It's just a matter of getting the 3d drivers for the GPU!
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So what do you think it's worth holding onto the device and not just get an Android device just yet? How long would you all feel it'll be till Android is as usable on the HD2 as it is on the Vogue or any multi-boot device?
Also, still what about the programs? Like if you have a program like Shopsavvy and you have the camera working will it and should it work on the device like the Vogue? Or is it a no go because it's not a legit supported device?
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So what do you think it's worth holding onto the device and not just get an Android device just yet? How long would you all feel it'll be till Android is as usable on the HD2 as it is on the Vogue or any multi-boot device?
Also, still what about the programs? Like if you have a program like Shopsavvy and you have the camera working will it and should it work on the device like the Vogue? Or is it a no go because it's not a legit supported device?
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In the end its entirely up to you. The HD2 has started on its journey to port linux and there no timeline on when it will be done. Even our linux kernel is not complete but devs are working on it and it grows and grows.
So if you have the dough and time go and try out a android device and see what you think. If you like go buy it otherwise be patient like most other members and you'll see a functional port guarenteed.
Apps will work if you have the function available in most cases.
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In the end its entirely up to you. The HD2 has started on its journey to port linux and there no timeline on when it will be done. Even our linux kernel is not complete but devs are working on it and it grows and grows.
So if you have the dough and time go and try out a android device and see what you think. If you like go buy it otherwise be patient like most other members and you'll see a functional port guarenteed.
Apps will work if you have the function available in most cases.
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Exactly. I used XDAndroid on my Fuze to decide that Android was in fact for me, and I bought a Motorola Milestone. We have a mostly working system here, the battery life sucks and theres no camera (and there was no bluetooth when I upgraded, nor was there 3D obviously, and Cellular had problems staying connected) but I was able to get a feel for the Android system, the market, what was out there and decided to make a go of it. I've been quite happy. I keep coming back to see Android on my Fuze because I have a feeling that it'll make a good spare device, or a giveaway device, or whatever. Even if it is just an MP3 player with a prepaid SIM in it that I can leave under the seat of my car - I'll be getting more mileage on this device running Android than I would on Windows Mobile.
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....I'll be getting more mileage on this device running Android than I would on Windows Mobile.....
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Agreed, Im just disolved now with WM, had a look at XDAndroid and am impressed big time.
Once this is an every-day OS to run (in terms of battery life and stability) I will have the device I wanted to start with....forward facing cameras for video calling (when its available), hardware keyboard and a nice form factor.
XDAndroid runs seemigly far nicer than the native OS the phone was designed for!!! Says it all!!
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Like if you have a program like Shopsavvy and you have the camera working will it and should it work on the device like the Vogue? Or is it a no go because it's not a legit supported device?
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Shopsavvy will not work properly on the Vogue because the camera on the Vogue has a fixed focus, and the barcode recognition algorithm in Barcode Scanner (ZXing) and Shopsavvy is not advanced enough to recognize blurred barcodes like RedLaser can on the iPhone 2G/3G. Once the camera works on the RAPH, Shopsavvy should do well on it since as far as I know the camera has autofocus.
Camera apps in general are hit and miss because Android has a rather poor camera API which exposes a lot of the underlying camera implementation (color space, framerate, encoding) to the app trying to use the camera - this is why whenever a new official Android phone comes out there are generally new versions of camera apps on the market (the Samsung Moment was the worst culprit of this - almost no camera applications worked out-of-the-box on it).
But as a rule of thumb - yes - the phone is running Android and the fine people working on development try to implement everything to spec, so for all intents it appears to an application the same as any "official" phone does. As a matter of fact, the Android porting community is doing *exactly* what a phone manufacturer does internally when releasing a new Android phone - just more publicly and with less documentation and more reverse-engineering.
I love xdandroid,i don't use camera so only the market bug in the latest froyo bulid is a bad thing for me,but i think that babijoee and all the xdandroid team can fix it.
the only thing that i wish is a flashable android so no more wm!
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I love xdandroid,i don't use camera so only the market bug in the latest froyo bulid is a bad thing for me,but i think that babijoee and all the xdandroid team can fix it.
the only thing that i wish is a flashable android so no more wm!
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What Market bug? Did you try deleting your data.img?
i think all the new problems may be due to old data.img
Since the framework and structure of the updates are always updated/changing we do require people to have a new data.img
If problems persist after making a new data.img then we will have to look into it
The camera and the extremely innaccurate battery meter are dealbreakers for me I really hope you'll manage to fix it soon, btw why not make a thread called "What we're working on", would be pretty interesting
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What Market bug? Did you try deleting your data.img?
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Yeah i deleted it,2 times.
the problem is when i try to log in with a google account or when i try to create one,i put username and password,i press next and after 5 minutes it says impossible to connect to google's server
i connect through wi-fi and connection works...maybe i should try to log in when no sim inserted,because doing a fresh install of android without sim solved this problem when i was using donut 1.6
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Yeah i deleted it,2 times.
the problem is when i try to log in with a google account or when i try to create one,i put username and password,i press next and after 5 minutes it says impossible to connect to google's server
i connect through wi-fi and connection works...maybe i should try to log in when no sim inserted,because doing a fresh install of android without sim solved this problem when i was using donut 1.6
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Hrm. I've never had a problem "signing into" the Market... I guess I didn't even realize it had to sign in, but it does make sense.
Try the trick w/o the SIM card. I don't have a SIM, and I've never been able to reproduce the error.
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The camera and the extremely innaccurate battery meter are dealbreakers for me I really hope you'll manage to fix it soon, btw why not make a thread called "What we're working on", would be pretty interesting
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"Whatever we feel like today" doesn't seem very interesting.
Hey guys i am just wondering is it EVER possible to run apple OS on Samsung epic?
android is an open source i know and they already got it to work on iphones but why can't we work apple os or mac os on our samsung epics since both of the operation system are linux based?
If this will never work can you please answer me with a reason and not just NO won't work.
thank you
Iphone OS is closed source it will most likely never happen
android is open source whch is why its able to run on the iphone
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Never gonna happen because ios is not opensource
We are already having trouble getting froyo working properly so start with baby steps
Ota froyo>cm gingerbread>then maybe ios but still never gonna happen
Ur welcome to try porting it if you want
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Why would you want it? I am sure it can be done, as they have MacOS on regular computers. However, you are going to run into problems with getting radios and such to work, as you will need custom drivers. You will also have to write a driver to allow it to sync with iTunes as that seems to be the only way to get music and stuff on it. And even then you would probably run into trouble, cause iTunes looks for proper OS, otherwise it resets it.
I would say the effort would be way too high for the benefit.
Right now, there is little to no chance. The closest similarity you can ever get to iOS is the MIUI ROM that is starting to take off in development for the Epic.
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thank you guys for the answers. i wish someone can guide me to where to start if i want to start porting the ios and how to write the drivers for it.
i did alot of search and couldn't find anything helpful.
i know ios and mac are closed sources but developers already ported it to work on PC.
Linux ubuntu already can run on samsung epic so would it be easier to port mac os on the epic or ios on the epic?
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thank you guys for the answers. i wish someone can guide me to where to start if i want to start porting the ios and how to write the drivers for it.
i did alot of search and couldn't find anything helpful.
i know ios and mac are closed sources but developers already ported it to work on PC.
Linux ubuntu already can run on samsung epic so would it be easier to port mac os on the epic or ios on the epic?
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Why would you want mac os on the epic anyway? lol
Besides, I don't think mac os would even be optimized to work, especially since it is a closed source, like mentioned above.
The only reason why Linux ubuntu works is because it is based off of the same system, and linux is completely open sourced.
Hello,
I saw this video of Launcher 7 and was wondering how he got the lockscreen, icons, and the game hub, does anyone know how?
Here is the video:
https://picasaweb.google.com/duhh47/Apr232011?authkey=Gv1sRgCL7t_a-j5838Tg#5598793716572145826
Thanks
Here it is on the Nexus One:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIqmMfdPu1E
That's an actual Windows Phone. Not android. To mimic it, you can download Metro UI or Launcher 7 off the market. The game hub is Microsoft's, so you can't get that. You can't really copy the lockscreen.
If you like the Windows Phone's style so much, Sprint has the HTC Arrive.
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That's an actual Windows Phone. Not android.
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Partially correct, it's actually a rather old and outdated WinMo phone, with a hackey port of WP7 on it.
No, that's a hd2 running android and launcher 7. Can someone tell me how he got this?
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gokuman56 said:
No, that's a hd2 running android and launcher 7. Can someone tell me how he got this?
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...its not running Android. The HD2 is and always has been a windows mobile phone.
Sent from my Samsung Epic
I userstand that the HD2 is capable of running wp7, but I can assure you that that is android.
It has skyfire, gmail, pulse and other android apps that cannot be run on wp7, that's why I want to know how the user achieved this, It is very convincing, a same layout is avaliable for the nexus one, I have seen it. Does anyone know how to achieve this look?
Thanks
And I will post launcher 7 on the nexus 1 soon to show you guys
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I userstand that the HD2 is capable of running wp7, but I can assure you that that is android.
It has skyfire, gmail, pulse and other android apps that cannot be run on wp7, that's why I want to know how the user achieved this, It is very convincing, a same layout is avaliable for the nexus one, I have seen it. Does anyone know how to achieve this look?
Thanks
And I will post launcher 7 on the nexus 1 soon to show you guys
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-________- Windows phone has all those apps too; it has a market, you know.
And it even has a freaking Windows logo at the bottom of the phone.
There's a port for the HD2 to make it Android, but it is NOT originally android.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxkIJdG2brU <--- THAT IS THE HD2. The video you posted is the HD2 with WindowsMobile 7.
This is what you saw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiWDafvuaRw
Edit: Woah wait a minute...is that an Android port running? After watching it a bit more, it's like a mixture of two ports :S
Edit2: It must be a ROM or something, because some of those apps aren't accessible on the Android Market. I'm confused now xD
And if you're right about Android, that was really convincing. Launcher 7 has live tiles?
Look at the first video that i showed you, that is launcher 7, not windows phone 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIqmMfdPu1E
Here is the same thing for nexus one
And I assure you, that is the HD2 running Android, with Launcher 7
gokuman56 said:
Look at the first video that i showed you, that is launcher 7, not windows phone 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIqmMfdPu1E
Here is the same thing for nexus one
And I assure you, that is the HD2 running Android, with Launcher 7
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Yeah I see it now..sorry.
What confuses me is how he got the apps to look so much like the ones from Windows 7.
I was also confused before because even though the HD2 originally has Windows Mobile, he clearly had a port for Android and then decided to make the HD2 with Android look like Windows 7 xD
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...its not running Android. The HD2 is and always has been a windows mobile phone.
Sent from my Samsung Epic
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I put cyanogen mod on my girlfriends HD2, check their dev forum its full of android.
blu9987 said:
I put cyanogen mod on my girlfriends HD2, check their dev forum its full of android.
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No I'm aware it can be ported to Android. What I was saying was it comes with stock Windows Mobile
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Sent from my MyFrankenstein EC05OCE using XDAP App...
how do you get xbox live application? or style?
Check out Serenicity
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332732
I used that as my daily driver for quite a while...
/thanks to randomking...
Its a very good w7 rom...
It seems like he's using different launchers to mimic the People, Games etc hubs. Launcher Pro, ADW EX, etc. the launchers are heavily themed to get the same effect as the WP7 hubs, and then the launcher is linked to tiles on the home screen to get the full effect. Seems pretty straightforward to link the launchers to tiles on the homescreen, but all the theming and wallpapers, to mimic the hubs is way beyond my skill set. Anybody have any ideas?
Like the guy above me said, that is setup like this:
The main launcher is launcher7.
The hubs are just links to other launchers, probably adw, launcherpro, and go launcher.
You link the hub tiles to the respective launcher you have set up for it, and boom.
Edit: its too bad L7 doesn't work right on ICS yet. I miss using it.
Edit 2: and the wallpaper is probably multi live wallpaper. Not sure though how each launcher has a different wallpaper though.
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Yes my friend...The launcher & has live tiles. I am using it on my SG2 and am loving the feel and simplicity of it...
There other icon packs and templates available on xda also. Search for them and customize more.
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i just threw this on my CM9 beta2 Epic4g and love it. Only issue so far is that widgets behave erratically... sometimes the BW widget from the "top" will appear on top of a standard tile towards the "bottom" and then disappear if i tap it...it still remains in the correct place, but it's like the launcher is confused where it should be on the homescreen briefly. oh, sometimes the widget will just disappear but then reappear when tapped on again. using the power widget, if i turn on wifi it will disappear, but then reappear when i tap the blank spot and wifi will be turned on.
I'm wondering if dual booting is even possible on any device and I have cyanegoen9 mod (i thinks thats how u speel it) and i want iOS installed along with that. This may sound like a silly idea but there are some good things about iOS. Thanks!
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I'm wondering if dual booting is even possible on any device and I have cyanegoen9 mod (i thinks thats how u speel it) and i want iOS installed along with that. This may sound like a silly idea but there are some good things about iOS. Thanks!
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You can't boot anything in then world with iOS besides an Apple device. The project is closed off to everyone except Apple itself. Besides, why would you want that crummy OS anyways? However you can (this is true with some devices) dual boot others ROMS at the same time such as MIUI (which might be more suited to you), AOKP (better than CM), CM or what have you.
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Although, I think if you have a jailbroken iOS device, you can dual boot it.
I think Soupmagnet means dualboot ios and android on an apple device.
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I think Soupmagnet means dualboot ios and android on an apple device.
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Yes, you can run Android on an iOS device pretty easily, and it has already been dual booted with iOS/Android.
This is an old article but it shows you how.
http://osxdaily.com/2010/11/15/dual-boot-android-os-and-ios-on-iphone-3g-and-iphone-2g/
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Android 4.0 or higher, Plus support lollipop
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Steps to run iOS on Android:
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2. Wait for few minutes
Happy iOS-ing Android
Hello XDA-Developers!
Here is my dilemma:
I do app security testing for my company and our team talked management into finally buying us a Nexus 7 device for that purpose. My company is also a big customer of Good for Enterprise.
In order to run Good for Enterprise, it means no root, complex password on the lockscreen, and encrypting the filesystem.
Root is pretty much a necessity for my job (being able to pull files out of /data/data/<app> and see what's going on, running shark and other tools, etc.), but I'd still like to be able to have Good on the tablet. The process for evading root (as laid out in this post on XDA: link) is laborious and doesn't yet work for 4.3.
Is there any way I could have seperate Android ROMs running on the device, one with root and one without?
I see MultiROM is in the process of being ported to the new Nexus 7, but I don't know if it's going to work. The version for the old Nexus 7 doesn't support encryption and Good for Enterprise forces it.
Something like SafeStrap would be perfect, but I haven't found anything like it for the Nexus 7.
Maybe I'll be forced to juggle nandroid images of the same OS rooted and non-rooted.
Any suggestions?
I have Android 4.2.2 Nexus 7 running on my PC that I use to test various apps and other functions. This is used by developers but I don't know how useful it will be to you.
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genymotion
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I have Android 4.2.2 Nexus 7 running on my PC that I use to test various apps and other functions. This is used by developers but I don't know how useful it will be to you.
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One of my co-workers was messing with Genymotion last week.
From what he showed me, it runs in Virtualbox, so I assumed it is the x86-compiled version of Android. Does it have the ability to run ARM-compiled apks?