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[Q] Alternative systems

just wondering if there are any alternative systems that would run on the evo (other then Ubuntu/Debian)
love android but i just like to experiment with things and mess around
like maybe other phone systems

I hear that some guys are working on putting Windows ME on it...

Windows ME...lol. I remember those days.
There was a system called Meego that I heard about somewhere. I'm not too familiar with it, but its worth a shot for you to look into.

The logical route would be to develop something else based on the Linux kernel since it's open-source and available, but by the time you've matched hardware and got features working, you'll have basically rebuilt a core Android system anyway, right? It's just another Linux distro, really.

minjin said:
i hear that some guys are working on putting windows me on it...
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lmao!!!!
Winner!!!!!!!!!!!

[Q] Android pc emulator with clockworkmod on??

hey guys,
just curious as it would be much easier to test out roms out before we flash them to our phone...
is there any way to install cwm onto an android emulator or make an android emulator that accepts the .zip files (the compressed rom) so we can view it on the emulator thats on the computer.
no worries if theres nothing like it but it would be alot quicker and easier.
Cheers

Bump for this. I would also like to know this.

i read somewhere that u could run android on ur computer... not sure about clockwork though... dont ask me for the site cause i saw it while i was on StumbleUpon

yeah its in the android sdk on google... trouble is its horribly slow and doesnt run clockworkmod unfortunately....
no worries if there isnt, its just the fact that it would be very nice to test a rom on the pc without having to miss a phone call or spend the time installing a rom then realise it was a waste of time lol.
fingers crossed something pops up in the future ay?

I think I saw a company working on a seamless VM sunning Android for Windows PC's.
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tronmech said:
I think I saw a company working on a seamless VM sunning Android for Windows PC's.
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That would be bad ass.
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http : / / android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/289928/testing-getting-an-emulator-up-and-running-a-full-rom-with-the-market-etc/
that link has instructions on getting an old CM on your emulator.
if you're kitted out with the stuff to build CM from source, you can build for the emulator, then put your .img fils in the emulator's avd directory, and it will work.
it's amaingly slow though

yeah i know its pig slow lol
i like the idea of the vm android
every android emulator ive tried so far is really slow, even on two ssd's in raid 0 lol
well thanks for the help guys any more ideas keep them posted as it may help others
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/vmware-android-handset-virtualization-hands-on/
This could be amazing ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ubuntu Natty 11.04 with flash support running on Galaxy Tab GT-P1000

Ubuntu Natty 11.04 running on Galaxy Tab GT-P1000 with flash support. I made two videos with instructions on how to do it.
Your Tab must be rooted and you have to have a kernel with loop device support.
I use official rom XXJQ3 with CF-Root XXJQ1 kernel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOVAHOk_PoU&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWIBrZEqB7Y&feature=channel_video_title
Hit the thanks button if you like

Sounds great but...where are the videos?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOVAHOk_PoU is this the video?

More information will nice. How to install?????
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Javierinnn said:
Sounds great but...where are the videos?
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Ooopsss sorry i got carried away and i forgot to post the videos too...
I added the videos on the OP.

Looks really good.
Btw....which launcher do you use in android?

Javierinnn said:
Looks really good.
Btw....which launcher do you use in android?
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Go Launcher EX with custom Glass Sense Theme

sadly, this has been done before. not trying to sound negative though some people might find it useful.
there was a project at one point where they were trying to get it to run native, but idk where it stands anymore.
i'm more interested in getting ICS functioning like it should if they get anything other than ubuntu running natively on the tab and it runs great, i'm all for it. ubuntu is bloated to hell now and i dont like the unity interface at all. i've been using MINT as of lately and i've been liking it so far

Why would anyone try to run two Linux operating systems at the same time on the cramped little Galaxy Tab is beyond my comprehension.
Still... seeing some of you guys are keen on connecting though a socket to another OS using your Tabs, try getting into a windows using Teamviewer (anyone can do it, no skill or risk involved and free of charge!). Or, if you feel adventurous, you can set up a VNC server on Windows, Linux (any distro) and establish a VNC connection directly to your desktop/laptop over wifi or 3/4G.
That should run at least twice as fast and provide the same results without your Tab heating up and eating a lavish 1A/h...
Peace,
C.

gangaskan said:
sadly, this has been done before. not trying to sound negative though some people might find it useful.
there was a project at one point where they were trying to get it to run native, but idk where it stands anymore.
i'm more interested in getting ICS functioning like it should if they get anything other than ubuntu running natively on the tab and it runs great, i'm all for it. ubuntu is bloated to hell now and i dont like the unity interface at all. i've been using MINT as of lately and i've been liking it so far
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it doesn't have a gui you have to install it yourself. I installed gnome because i hate unity too.

"Dangerous" Newb!

I did my first android root about a month ago - now I'm hooked on flashing and really want to learn how to customize my ROMs.
My first question - a lot of the tools seem to run in Linux. Is it a good idea to setup a dual boot on my laptop?
I've read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167623
Is this the right place to start if I want to pull apps off other ROMs to install in my own ROM? I've tried unzipping a rom, finding the APK, and so far, it always fails installation. So - is the thread above the right place to start pulling these APKs "the correct way"?
Came from the WinMo platform, been using Android devices for a little over a year.
Any help, pointing me in the right direction is helpful.
Again - I don't (at this time) want to learn how to MAKE a ROM, but "customize" what's already out there.
Thanks!

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I did my first android root about a month ago - now I'm hooked on flashing and really want to learn how to customize my ROMs.
My first question - a lot of the tools seem to run in Linux. Is it a good idea to setup a dual boot on my laptop?
I've read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167623
Is this the right place to start if I want to pull apps off other ROMs to install in my own ROM? I've tried unzipping a rom, finding the APK, and so far, it always fails installation. So - is the thread above the right place to start pulling these APKs "the correct way"?
Came from the WinMo platform, been using Android devices for a little over a year.
Any help, pointing me in the right direction is helpful.
Again - I don't (at this time) want to learn how to MAKE a ROM, but "customize" what's already out there.
Thanks!
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I am a windows guy, and most things can actually be done on windows, but somethings Linux is needed for. I use wubi, it's a dual boot, it works amazing. I primarily use windows, and you can use apktool to decompile and edit your applications, you can even set up "cygwin" and run the android kitchen through cygwin bypassing the need for Linux. but for the android utility by tommytomatoe Linux is needed as it's not windows compatible yet, I suggest using Linux to get used to it, I like windows so I like to use as much as I can without Linus, but Linux is a great operating system and wubi is the best way to run it IMO, I've tried all the VMware and running it inside windows and its just way more efficient using the dual boot and wubi is as easy as 1,2,3 to set up
best of luck man, it's addicting!!

i never used linux until about a year ago, and now i cant stand using windows for anything (although forced to use it at work)
there are limitations (online gaming etc)
but i started using it primarily for android but now it is my os of choice
i keep windows on one hd and ubuntu on another, but im pretty sure im gonna erase windows at some point and dual boot something else..maybe mint
wubi is a nice way to wade in to linux w/o doing a full install, but if you ever get into building source roms its not ideal and generally cant handle it, specifically because its partition isnt big enough

Thanks for the replies! Andy, I'm running your stock ROM right now. Love it! Pulled off all the stuff I consider bloat. Now I'm wanting to add some stuff from other ROMs that I have tried.
So...if I use the method you descried above, I'll be able to pull APKs off other ROMs that I've downloaded?
Thanks again.
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nitsuj17 said:
i never used linux until about a year ago, and now i cant stand using windows for anything (although forced to use it at work)
there are limitations (online gaming etc)
but i started using it primarily for android but now it is my os of choice
i keep windows on one hd and ubuntu on another, but im pretty sure im gonna erase windows at some point and dual boot something else..maybe mint
wubi is a nice way to wade in to linux w/o doing a full install, but if you ever get into building source roms its not ideal and generally cant handle it, specifically because its partition isnt big enough
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I run mint 100% and use windows in a vm
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knipp21 said:
I run mint 100% and use windows in a vm
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yeah its mostly just convincing my wife that our home comp is ok w/ no "real" windows
she hates vm's...as actually an old laptop we have can only run windows in a vm (long story) and she uses that at work as a backup to show powerpoints
but ill probably just do it for good during my mini vacation, we havent booted into it in 2 months

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nitsuj17 said:
yeah its mostly just convincing my wife that our home comp is ok w/ no "real" windows
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That's funny, I have an old laptop with pretty modest specs. I put XP on it, and it borders on unusable, so I put Linux Mint LXDE on it and configured it to look almost exactly like Windows. It runs really well, but my wife hates it! She can't stand having to learn it's subtle differences (she's a COBOL programmer, so that might explain some things! )
As for the OP's question, depending on the specs of your notebook, you might be able to get away running Linux in a VM. I have VM's for Windows (for installing crap I don't want to install on my real Windows install), Linux and MacOS and they all run perfectly well.
A lot of people rave about VM Ware, I tried it and didn't like it at all. VirtualBox has always worked perfectly for me, and it's completely free. It's worth a shot, if for nothing else than testing 1- whether or not you really need to use Linux, and 2- which flavor of Linux you prefer and meets your needs.
On that second point, I used to use Ubuntu (and still have it installed on a little home file/print server), but recent versions have become resource hogs which might not play well in a VM on modest hardware. Linux Mint, which itself is a derivative of Ubuntu, is much more streamlined and light on resources, especially the LXDE (Lightweight X Desktop Environment) version. This would make it perfect for use in a VM.

imo
Everyone has a different preference when it come to Linux.
personally its very intemidating. I don't like doing.weird things my laptop wasn't made for.
but all u need is the basics, and a couple of good opinions, after that you should be OK.
trust me, after u figure it out, u can't stop.
It like crack!

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I switched from Ubuntu to Mint the other day, and I'm liking it so far. I bought a small external hard drive to back up important stuff. I tried the upgrade option when installing, but it seemed buggy, so I did a clean install.
The only problem I've seen is the ATI/AMD proprietary graphics driver doesn't work properly for my laptop. I just run "classic" Mint, if not the graphics will bug out. I actually prefer the classic desktop anyways so it's not a big issue for me.
I've also got the android SDK with ADB and fastboot up and running now as well.
I'm still learning linux, but I like this distro better. If anyone has any suggestions or any advice to further my learning, I would love to hear it.

Web browser development progress on Windows RT

Hello all, I have been working on porting applications such as SM64, ClassiCube, VVVVVV, and others including web browsers to ARM as I want to help the community, so I thought I would share my progress with the web browser.. I am using a QtWebKit browser as the final product (Otter), but here's the catch -
Full SSL and HTTPS support. I found a way to port over Qt5 and the latest version of QtWebKit. I accidentally built the wrong branch of QtWebKit though, so it's kind of broken. Using LLVM-MinGW (github.com/mstorsjo/llvm-mingw), Linux, and MXE, and a lot of patience, time and effort, you can port almost anything. The most I can show for the web browser right now is this picture of it not responding right now, as like said before I built the wrong QtWebKit branch. i.imgur.com/Qbt08Fp.png (I can't post outside links, I don't have 10 posts yet)
I'll be making a guide for MXE armv7-Windows building soon and releasing a hopefully stable build of this browser soon too
(I'll also send over apps such as ClassiCube and VVVVVV (can't do SM64 for obv. legal reasons, but I will explain how to build it yourself as long as you legally own the game and have a ROM) in another forum, or if you can't wait I can send it here too )
(I will also be willing to take app requests if absolutely wanted, just make sure they're on GitHub and do not use Visual Studio projects)

If you're planning to do anything JIT you may wanna have a look at running Windows 10 ARM32 as well since that supports ARM32 code and not just Thumb-2 (I see you're running Windows RT in that image...are you sure the reason it crashes isn't the JS JIT?).
Also no idea if you already know but thought I'd say it cause you said you're willing to take app requests if they don't use VS projects: VS 2017+ (even the free version) can easily compile for ARM32 as long as you can build all dependencies (was just saying in case you didn't know, if it's a thing of personal preference just ignore me)
As for app requests... if you're willing to I guess you could look into the ones that have been asked for time and time again back when these devices were more used and the jailbreak was found, I remember a lot of people asking for stuff like LibreOffice and LMMS off the top of my head, otherwise can't really remember much of anything else but while we lack LMMS I think a lot of people would appreciate a properly compiled version of Audacity (there's a version ported long ago but they used the wrong method so they're tied to the OS versions they were compiled for, one only working on 8.0 and one only on 8.1, nothing for 10... I tried compiling it but the patches from the ancient version that got compiled for RT were of little help in figuring out how to compile the latest version).
Anyway thank you for all you have done, a better browser is really the most needed thing now that we have Windows 10 available.

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If you're planning to do anything JIT you may wanna have a look at running Windows 10 ARM32 as well since that supports ARM32 code and not just Thumb-2 (I see you're running Windows RT in that image...are you sure the reason it crashes isn't the JS JIT?).
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Ah, yeah. I only use RT cause well, I got my Surface in a special way and I don't want to accidentally brick it lol.. I have enough money to get one off eBay to test with so I'll check that. It very well could be the JIT, cause well... like said RT is just Thumb-v2, but it wouldn't have compiled at all if it wasn't Thumb-v2 since Clang with LLVM-MinGW is setup for thumbv7-arm-windows-gnu (or something similar), unless it's a broken compiler but any other apps I compile work fine. I tried disabling JS completely but I think something is just broken completely within QtWebKit as I got the same results, so I'll try looking around Qt dev forums and keep you updated on whether its the JIT or not once I get that.
Also no idea if you already know but thought I'd say it cause you said you're willing to take app requests if they don't use VS projects: VS 2017+ (even the free version) can easily compile for ARM32 as long as you can build all dependencies (was just saying in case you didn't know, if it's a thing of personal preference just ignore me)
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Just a personal preference thing, it's easier to work with Clang as you can build things easier with it (or harder, but hey challenges are fun too). I personally just kinda dislike VS either way and use Linux as a main OS. Qt5 wouldn't even configure on ARM on any VS I tried :laugh: I dual boot, but I'm living on 3.5inch HDDs as is :laugh:
As for app requests... if you're willing to I guess you could look into the ones that have been asked for time and time again back when these devices were more used and the jailbreak was found, I remember a lot of people asking for stuff like LibreOffice and LMMS off the top of my head, otherwise can't really remember much of anything else but while we lack LMMS I think a lot of people would appreciate a properly compiled version of Audacity (there's a version ported long ago but they used the wrong method so they're tied to the OS versions they were compiled for, one only working on 8.0 and one only on 8.1, nothing for 10... I tried compiling it but the patches from the ancient version that got compiled for RT were of little help in figuring out how to compile the latest version).
Anyway thank you for all you have done, a better browser is really the most needed thing now that we have Windows 10 available.
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Will definitely look into Audacity and LMMS and LibreOffice. All are apps I want myself, just haven't had much time on me, but I do stuff from here to there when I can. Just kinda hard with my internet going out since the servers are stacked. Will definitely look into that though as I have Thanksgiving off for the rest of the week

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Ah, yeah. I only use RT cause well, I got my Surface in a special way and I don't want to accidentally brick it lol.. I have enough money to get one off eBay to test with so I'll check that. It very well could be the JIT, cause well... like said RT is just Thumb-v2, but it wouldn't have compiled at all if it wasn't Thumb-v2 since Clang with LLVM-MinGW is setup for thumbv7-arm-windows-gnu (or something similar), unless it's a broken compiler but any other apps I compile work fine. I tried disabling JS completely but I think something is just broken completely within QtWebKit as I got the same results, so I'll try looking around Qt dev forums and keep you updated on whether its the JIT or not once I get that.
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LLVM-MinGW compiles for ARM Windows, ARM Windows 10 supports ARM32 code, it will compile, just won't run on RT, will do on 10 though, until you buy an extra I can do some testing for you on 10 if you DM me binaries.
Also no real reason to be scared, quite hard to brick a Surface RT/2 permanently.
EDIT: An other example is PPSSPP, there's builds for ARM32 Windows, they work on both RT and 10 but on RT you have to disable JIT, on 10 JIT works.

Ranomez said:
LLVM-MinGW compiles for ARM Windows, ARM Windows 10 supports ARM32 code, it will compile, just won't run on RT, will do on 10 though, until you buy an extra I can do some testing for you on 10 if you DM me binaries.
Also no real reason to be scared, quite hard to brick a Surface RT/2 permanently.
EDIT: An other example is PPSSPP, there's builds for ARM32 Windows, they work on both RT and 10 but on RT you have to disable JIT, on 10 JIT works.
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Ah, gotcha. Want me to send over the binaries? I can do it anytime I just need to know so I can put it in a zip after class. I just really can't risk it lol. Had my Surface since 2015

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Ah, gotcha. Want me to send over the binaries? I can do it anytime I just need to know so I can put it in a zip after class. I just really can't risk it lol. Had my Surface since 2015
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Yeah, if you send me a DM with a link I'll test whatever you throw at me on 10.
Well again, it's pretty much impossible to brick it.

Ranomez said:
Yeah, if you send me a DM with a link I'll test whatever you throw at me on 10.
Well again, it's pretty much impossible to brick it.
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Well, I may just do W10ARM32 later anyways, my Surface needs reset as is. But they're all sent through a PM, hope you have luck :fingers-crossed:

If you do build a browser successfully, please build it for RT 8.1. You don't lose much by building it for 8.1 as it will still work on 10

Qiangong2 said:
If you do build a browser successfully, please build it for RT 8.1. You don't lose much by building it for 8.1 as it will still work on 10
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JIT won't work on anything but 10 thought and unlike emulators where JIT can be freely disabled from settings usually in the majority of the browsers that's not so easy, you have to build it with JIT disabled => you'd have to keep 2 build configurations and the non JIT version won't really be very usable anyway.

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EDIT: An other example is PPSSPP, there's builds for ARM32 Windows, they work on both RT and 10 but on RT you have to disable JIT, on 10 JIT works.
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Is there a PSSPP build floating around somewhere? I searched a bit and couldn't find one. I'm curious if it would even run full speed on an RT, but it would be fun to see.
@frylockk19 if you need another tester, I'd be happy to try stuff out too. I updated my old RT device (not a 2) many months ago, and I'm running Win 10. I found some of the old software that had been ported didn't seem to work anymore, but the ability to run many more apps from the Windows Store mostly made up for it. I've been really impressed how well some things run -- even Discord is usable. It also makes it obvious which apps are not very optimized. I was surprised to see Pixel Studio ran as poorly as it does!
Regarding requests (sorry for the big dump here!):
- Audacity sounds like a good choice to me too!
- while not as exciting, I'd love to see some command line utility applications ported; things like imagemagick or even just a good selection of standard linux tools, git, etc.
- if you're feeling up for a big challenge, I'd recommend something like Webcamoid; I'm not sure what the driver situation would be like or if it's even possible, but if we could plug a cheap HDMI->USB adaptor into an RT device (so it thinks were plugging in a webcam) we could use something like Webcamoid to turn the RT into a cheap display for a Raspberry Pi or anything else. Essentially, with a dongle, the RT could become a portable display, if the software situation was possible. https://webcamoid.github.io/
- WinSCP https://github.com/winscp/winscp
- Pico-8 would be awesome, but is unfortunately closed source. TIC-80 is a nice alternative for a "fantasy console" though. There was an older version in the Microsoft Store, but I think it got purged along with most emulators at some point. https://github.com/nesbox/TIC-80
- I have never been able to get the old MAME build working on either 8 or 10 on the RT, but it would be fun to see that actually running.
- LosslessCut might be useful, even though the Surface RT isn't exactly a multimedia powerhouse. Ditto for Editly. https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut https://github.com/mifi/editly
I'm excited to see new life breathed into the RT, whatever you decide to do.

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Is there a PSSPP build floating around somewhere? I searched a bit and couldn't find one. I'm curious if it would even run full speed on an RT, but it would be fun to see.
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Well on Windows RT you have to use the IR interpreter cause JIT doesn't work so no, it won't be full speed but on 10 you can use JIT, many games seem to work pretty much full speed with my settings but there's a catch: the Nvidia GPU driver on RT devices (both RT and 2) is broken so you won't get 3D games working unfortunately... Or rather not on GPU, they work with software rendering and some are playable with JIT and frameskip.
EDIT: Forgot to say ARM32 and ARM64 is merged in the main PPSSPP sources so you can just compile it.

MichaelA said:
Is there a PSSPP build floating around somewhere? I searched a bit and couldn't find one. I'm curious if it would even run full speed on an RT, but it would be fun to see.
@frylockk19 if you need another tester, I'd be happy to try stuff out too. I updated my old RT device (not a 2) many months ago, and I'm running Win 10. I found some of the old software that had been ported didn't seem to work anymore, but the ability to run many more apps from the Windows Store mostly made up for it. I've been really impressed how well some things run -- even Discord is usable. It also makes it obvious which apps are not very optimized. I was surprised to see Pixel Studio ran as poorly as it does!
Regarding requests (sorry for the big dump here!):
- Audacity sounds like a good choice to me too!
- while not as exciting, I'd love to see some command line utility applications ported; things like imagemagick or even just a good selection of standard linux tools, git, etc.
- if you're feeling up for a big challenge, I'd recommend something like Webcamoid; I'm not sure what the driver situation would be like or if it's even possible, but if we could plug a cheap HDMI->USB adaptor into an RT device (so it thinks were plugging in a webcam) we could use something like Webcamoid to turn the RT into a cheap display for a Raspberry Pi or anything else. Essentially, with a dongle, the RT could become a portable display, if the software situation was possible. https://webcamoid.github.io/
- WinSCP https://github.com/winscp/winscp
- Pico-8 would be awesome, but is unfortunately closed source. TIC-80 is a nice alternative for a "fantasy console" though. There was an older version in the Microsoft Store, but I think it got purged along with most emulators at some point. https://github.com/nesbox/TIC-80
- I have never been able to get the old MAME build working on either 8 or 10 on the RT, but it would be fun to see that actually running.
- LosslessCut might be useful, even though the Surface RT isn't exactly a multimedia powerhouse. Ditto for Editly. https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut https://github.com/mifi/editly
I'm excited to see new life breathed into the RT, whatever you decide to do.
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Amazing to hear someone else can test any time! I actually have been busy, so sorry for the really late response. I'm working on Linux on the RT/2 since all they are are Cortex-A9/A15 devices. I will definitely check out all those projects and keep you updated more frequently now that school is out for awhile.

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Well on Windows RT you have to use the IR interpreter cause JIT doesn't work so no, it won't be full speed but on 10 you can use JIT, many games seem to work pretty much full speed with my settings but there's a catch: the Nvidia GPU driver on RT devices (both RT and 2) is broken so you won't get 3D games working unfortunately... Or rather not on GPU, they work with software rendering and some are playable with JIT and frameskip.
EDIT: Forgot to say ARM32 and ARM64 is merged in the main PPSSPP sources so you can just compile it.
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@Ranomez sorry to bother, you said there's a server, correct? I'm interested in joining if you could send the link please ^^

Any Update?

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Any Update?
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You don't look at the development forums do you
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-beta-otter-browser-for-windows-on-arm32.4267593/

frylockk19 said:
You don't look at the development forums do you
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-beta-otter-browser-for-windows-on-arm32.4267593/
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Sorry my bad, Thanks mate