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Newest OTA 3.30.651.3 vs Evo Hardware 0003 and older

I have read through a bunch of ROM Threads in the Dev section that state that the 3.30.651.3 release may have compatibility issues with hardware versions 0003 and older.. I was hoping someone may be able to confirm / deny or explain this.
The reason I am asking is because I have a phone with hardware version 0003 and I have installed a couple different ROMS that are based on 3.30.651.3 and I have experienced random problems from extreme lag to really poor battery life.
Thanks in advance..

jones79 said:
I have read through a bunch of ROM Threads in the Dev section that state that the 3.30.651.3 release may have compatibility issues with hardware versions 0003 and older.. I was hoping someone may be able to confirm / deny or explain this.
The reason I am asking is because I have a phone with hardware version 0003 and I have installed a couple different ROMS that are based on 3.30.651.3 and I have experienced random problems from extreme lag to really poor battery life.
Thanks in advance..
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Not a whole lot of help, but here is my two cents....
I have two Evo's, one is 0002 and the other is 0003. I ran 3.30.651.3 on both of them, and didn't experience any problems running fresh 3.4.1. However after doing some research, I've reverted to Fresh 3.3.0.1 because it's based on 3.29.651.5. Being with hardware version 0003, I've been told 3.29.651.5 is optimal. I even unrooted to check for OTA's and the only OTA update available was 3.29.651.5.
If you'd like to try Fresh's rom with 3.30.651.3, DL Fresh 3.4.1, and install the unofficial patch found in the thread. That's about all I can tell ya bud.

jones79 said:
I have read through a bunch of ROM Threads in the Dev section that state that the 3.30.651.3 release may have compatibility issues with hardware versions 0003 and older.. I was hoping someone may be able to confirm / deny or explain this.
The reason I am asking is because I have a phone with hardware version 0003 and I have installed a couple different ROMS that are based on 3.30.651.3 and I have experienced random problems from extreme lag to really poor battery life.
Thanks in advance..
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this is true but (and not to plug my fav. dev.) Ricsim has made some tweeks to azreal x so that you get good battery life with the latest OTA it has ran flawlessly on my phone so far. Prior to this i was haveing the same problems you have mentioned my phone is 0003 and i was getting lag and massive battery drain till i flashed a new kernel but that only helped when my phone was sleeping or screen off. Rom choice is all up to you if you like the way your phone runs on 3.30 then stay with it if not then try fresh 3.3.01. Just remember not all phones like certain kernels.

The issue is not specifically hardware related, but shipped software related. Some 003's were shipped with the 3.29 ROM, others with the 3.30. From what I understand the ones that were shipped with the 3.30 had a different camera manufacturer. If your 003 was shipped with 3.29 then use a 3.29 ROM, otherwise use a 3.30 ROM.
One quick way to find out is to flash a custom kernel and see if your camera works. If your camera/camcorder breaks then use a 3.30 ROM with the stock HTC kernel. The #17 is working great for me.
BTW, I have an 003 phone with the 3.30 shipped ROM. Can't wait for HTC to release the kernel source so the devs can start working on it.

twin001 said:
The issue is not specifically hardware related, but shipped software related. Some 003's were shipped with the 3.29 ROM, others with the 3.30. From what I understand the ones that were shipped with the 3.30 had a different camera manufacturer. If your 003 was shipped with 3.29 then use a 3.29 ROM, otherwise use a 3.30 ROM.
One quick way to find out is to flash a custom kernel and see if your camera works. If your camera/camcorder breaks then use a 3.30 ROM with the stock HTC kernel. The #17 is working great for me.
BTW, I have an 003 phone with the 3.30 shipped ROM. Can't wait for HTC to release the kernel source so the devs can start working on it.
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you are absolutly correct, i should have mentioned that in my post guess i wasn't thinking about it

all i know is that clockwork hates the 3.4 fresh with 3.0 update, it screws up the nandroid backup, never gonna try another non-cyanogen rom again.

twin001 said:
The issue is not specifically hardware related, but shipped software related. Some 003's were shipped with the 3.29 ROM, others with the 3.30. From what I understand the ones that were shipped with the 3.30 had a different camera manufacturer. If your 003 was shipped with 3.29 then use a 3.29 ROM, otherwise use a 3.30 ROM.
One quick way to find out is to flash a custom kernel and see if your camera works. If your camera/camcorder breaks then use a 3.30 ROM with the stock HTC kernel. The #17 is working great for me.
BTW, I have an 003 phone with the 3.30 shipped ROM. Can't wait for HTC to release the kernel source so the devs can start working on it.
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As I stated above I also have 0003, but I don't remember what ROM version it was shipped with, so to try to find out, I unrooted, and searched for system updates and there was only the 3.29 update. If my phone was shipped with 3.30, that update would have been available, correct? Because it was not available it leads me to believe I do not have the new chip, however 3.30 worked fine in all perspectives for me. Actually it worked fine on 0002 hardware as well. Puzzled????

mcampos7 said:
As I stated above I also have 0003, but I don't remember what ROM version it was shipped with, so to try to find out, I unrooted, and searched for system updates and there was only the 3.29 update. If my phone was shipped with 3.30, that update would have been available, correct? Because it was not available it leads me to believe I do not have the new chip, however 3.30 worked fine in all perspectives for me. Actually it worked fine on 0002 hardware as well. Puzzled????
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there is no update from 3.29 if you installed 3.29 on a phone that came with 3.30 it won't update the only way to check is if your camera doesn't work with stock 3.29 rooted or unrooted. 3.30 camera h\w will not work with any other kernel besides htc#10 and htc#17

Jbcarrera said:
there is no update from 3.29 if you installed 3.29 on a phone that came with 3.30 it won't update the only way to check is if your camera doesn't work with stock 3.29 rooted or unrooted. 3.30 camera h\w will not work with any other kernel besides htc#10 and htc#17
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So let me get this straight. If our phone came with 3.30, but we unroot to a 3.29 RUU, the phone will not OTA update back to 3.30? Also if I flash flipz 3.3.0.1 ROM based on the 3.29 software and kernel 2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e [email protected]#11 and my camera works fine, then my phone was originally shipped with 3.29?

Jbcarrera said:
there is no update from 3.29 if you installed 3.29 on a phone that came with 3.30 it won't update the only way to check is if your camera doesn't work with stock 3.29 rooted or unrooted. 3.30 camera h\w will not work with any other kernel besides htc#10 and htc#17
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Ok I was just about to flash a stock 3.29 Rom to check, but remembered I am running nets universal 4.1.9 kernal. Thus proving I am on the old chip? Or should I still flash the stock 3.29 to find out? Sorry man, just trying to learn all I can. I appreciate your patience and insight very much.

mcampos7 said:
Ok I was just about to flash a stock 3.29 Rom to check, but remembered I am running nets universal 4.1.9 kernal. Thus proving I am on the old chip? Or should I still flash the stock 3.29 to find out? Sorry man, just trying to learn all I can. I appreciate your patience and insight very much.
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I would assume that if your running nets uni 4.1.9 kernel and your camera works fine then yes, you have the old camera chip. Maybe im wrong, little confused myself.

Ok this is driving me nuts, so I took a shot at calling sprint to see if they could tell me what chip I have (I knew it'd be pointless but what the hell), I told them I was on hardware version 0003, and we discussed the new 3.30 OTA, sprint agreed that this update was intended for the new camera chip in 0004, however told me I should be running the 3.30 update. Then I got into it with them about receiving an out dated phone (0003). Sprint assured me my phone was not out dated even though they confirmed the 0004 hardware and the new camera chip. "Sir with the OTA update your phone will not be out dated" So I very calmly broke it down very simple for them... "ma'am you see that I am running 0003, you've confirmed that the OTA was intended for phones that have the new camera chip installed in hardware version 0004. You are telling me that my phone is not out dated?" She goes on to say once again that after I install the OTA my phone will be up to date.
"ma'am, let me get this correct, if I install an OTA software update it will automatically install a new hardware camera chip in my phone" She says well let me look into that please hold. She then confirms that an OTA will not install the new hardware chip. "So you see the EVO that was shipped to me a month ago is out of date" She said that was a hardware issue and they do not handle that, and gave me HTC's #. Wish I would have recorded the call. Priceless.

using HW 003 with the latest 3.30.651.3 based Sprint Lovers ROM and battery life is pretty darn good compared to all other stock rooted ROMs i have used. i am pretty sure this doesnt have the new camera as i bought it just after the evo was first released. i am a moderate user, heavy on the texting and browsing side of things. and my usage pattern has pretty much been consistent for the past few months and i have noticed significant improvement in the battery life with the 3.30 version. i can easily go for anything between 30-35 hrs with my usage pattern. that is an improvement from 20-24 hrs with previous stock rooted ROMs. you can look at some screenshots on the link on my signature.

crakerjaks said:
all i know is that clockwork hates the 3.4 fresh with 3.0 update, it screws up the nandroid backup, never gonna try another non-cyanogen rom again.
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It's not fresh, just don't use clockwork for nandroid. If you have kept up with the 4G RSA keys issue, you would know not to use clockwork since it's not properly archiving the RSA keys. If you don't want to risk losing the keys, then I recommend using amon-ra, which properly does a nandroid backup. Anyways, if you're using clockwork to flash different roms, it's also been stated that clockwork doesn't always do a clean wipe so there could be issues when installing a different rom, especially if going from CM AOSP back to sense Fresh rom. Amon-ra is the way to go.

Flashing a new rom after updating radios?

So, I'm currently running Myn's RLS5, and when I flashed it I had to begin by flashing new radios (which I hadn't ever had to do before). (I'm assuming this is because it's 3.70? But I could be wrong here obvs, noobing all over the place).
I'm interested in flashing a new rom to my phone but I haven't for a while, so I'm wondering; do I have to flash new radios again before I change roms? Where do I go to do that? Most roms don't have a radio package to flash from.
And beyond that, are there any good Gingerbread roms for the EVO yet? I've seen a few but the ones I've glanced over don't have lots of support and that made me baw.
Thanks for all your help!

Alfred F. Jones said:
So, I'm currently running Myn's RLS5, and when I flashed it I had to begin by flashing new radios (which I hadn't ever had to do before). (I'm assuming this is because it's 3.70? But I could be wrong here obvs, noobing all over the place).
I'm interested in flashing a new rom to my phone but I haven't for a while, so I'm wondering; do I have to flash new radios again before I change roms? Where do I go to do that? Most roms don't have a radio package to flash from.
And beyond that, are there any good Gingerbread roms for the EVO yet? I've seen a few but the ones I've glanced over don't have lots of support and that made me baw.
Thanks for all your help!
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The radio update was for all 3.70 htc kernel based roms. You could either update the radio or switch to a non stock kernel.
There haven't been any similar problems since then, afaik. Flash away. You should be fine until the next big htc update.
Cyanogen released an rc1 that's Gingerbread based, and it's probably your best bet, but I haven't tried it.

[Q] How and when to update PRI, radio, baseband, etc?

So i have been recently flashing cm7 builds since RC1 and now I'm using the stable build that they have just released awhile ago. I have been experiencing bad signal and poor 3g connection along with sporadic signal loss and signal gains. Before I have had better connections than this. I have been reading around and I'm not sure if its either the ROM or my radio, PRI, baseband versions. I have never touched them since I bought my device, so I was wondering if they were out of date / needed updating. What are they exactly and should I be updating them frequently ? I know its a high possibilty to brick phones by updating a bad radio, PRI.. but if i could solve this bad connection problem how would I go about updating all of this? What exactly should I be updating?
baseband version
2.15.00.09.01
PRL version
60671
i dont really know what more I should put in to help you gain a better understanding of my situation.
Thanks for your help.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
You can flash the combo at the top to update your wimax, and radio, along with PRI&NV. You flash in recovery, just wipe dalvik and cache.
As for PRL, backup your current rom, flash a sense rom, then click update profile from system, then flash back.

download from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
Instructions here:
http://geekfor.me/faq/flash-a-radio-update-sprint-evo-4g/
Those are def not the most recent.
Most recent (released) radio ends in 11.19
PRL is 60677
PRI an nv are 1.90.003, if you're on 1.77 though, you might want to leave it, people ahve reported battery issues with 1.90.

What rom should I flash to update the PRL?

Most sense ROMs will work
Azrael
Myn Warm RLS 5
MikFroyo
Sprint Lovers
Stock Rooted, etc
Just make sure it's not Sense 2.0.

Does this work with clockworkmod? I heard this doesn't support amend writing. Is the baseband version ending in 00.04.08 is the latest? if so can someone provide a link for me? Should I flash the radio, wimax, pri, etc before I flash the sense rom and update my prl? So I just go into my recovery and flash the zip file? I'm not comfortable with the combo, so I might do it one by one. Is there a specific order that I should flash these?

bump......

Possible answer to lost 3g
I thought it was the new ....04.08 radio that was released for the GB ROM that leaked, which I flashed (Tmartin's). However, I have been having the issue for a day or two now and my neighbor who has an unrooted stock EVO shift 4g and his wife has a Palm Pre and they asked ME if I was having issues with data/phone calls too the past day. Long story short, I don't think it has anything to do with the ROM's of late anyways(can't speak for the past), I think it is Sprint PERIOD.
I live in Baltimore and it seems people across the country whether rooted or not are having issues.

I don't think it will flash in clockwork.
You could always just flash the sprint lovers all in one update ROM.

jstalford said:
I don't think it will flash in clockwork.
You could always just flash the sprint lovers all in one update ROM.
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You can use a version prior to 3+ of clockwork which doesn't use edify scripting.

That is correct. Thanks.

so i can just flash these zips through recovery? im might use amon ra through rom manager. is it wise to flash the 2.15.00.04.08 baseband if i could find it? or is it for some leaked GB ROM... is myns warm 2.2 rls5 okay for updating prl? it requires that i need to update the radio/wimax. or is sprint lovers easier?

jstalford said:
Most recent (released) radio ends in 11.19
PRL is 60677
PRI an nv are 1.90.003, if you're on 1.77 though, you might want to leave it, people ahve reported battery issues with 1.90.
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I just did system update > update PRL sine I had 60676....
...now I have 01115?!?
What is most current?

sablesurfer said:
I just did system update > update PRL sine I had 60676....
...now I have 01115?!?
What is most current?
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I believe that is the latest. I'f you give my 5 minutes, i'll do an update as well.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044378
Says that both 01115 and 60678 are showing up. No info on difference.

sablesurfer said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044378
Says that both 01115 and 60678 are showing up. No info on difference.
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That is awkward. I'll still give you mine when myn's finishes booting up; was on CM7.

Updated twice in a row, and on 01115.

teh roxxorz said:
Updated twice in a row, and on 01115.
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Thanks for tryin, would love to find some info on this oddness. Oh well...we'll see if it changes my connectivity at home. Newest ROM seems to not hold 3G at all in my neighborhood..but maybe not ROM.

sablesurfer said:
Thanks for tryin, would love to find some info on this oddness. Oh well...we'll see if it changes my connectivity at home. Newest ROM seems to not hold 3G at all in my neighborhood..but maybe not ROM.
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Yea, well I seemed to have a little better speed.

so why isn't the radio 2.15.00.04.08 not the latest baseband on caulkins thread? What is it for? Im still on 2.15.00.11.19...

[Q] From Myn 2.2 RC4 TO: Newest GB w/ radios...

Okay, so here are the specs of my phone:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-2 S-OFF
0.79.0000
041f
Radio - 2.05.00.06.10
I really love the battery life that I get with myn's warm 2.2, and I could live with it, but I was really wanting to try GB. I thought I read somewhere that after I update the radios then I can't go back. So...
1) assuming I've got a nandroid of what I have now, can I just start flashing away with GB from xHausx and the newest radios
2) If I decide that I don't like the new setup, if i restore my nandroid, will the updated radios remain, and if they do can I go back to the old ones I had somehow?
Thanks a ton, and thanks will be given!

bumpage...

btyking said:
Okay, so here are the specs of my phone:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-2 S-OFF
0.79.0000
041f
Radio - 2.05.00.06.10
I really love the battery life that I get with myn's warm 2.2, and I could live with it, but I was really wanting to try GB. I thought I read somewhere that after I update the radios then I can't go back. So...
1) assuming I've got a nandroid of what I have now, can I just start flashing away with GB from xHausx and the newest radios
2) If I decide that I don't like the new setup, if i restore my nandroid, will the updated radios remain, and if they do can I go back to the old ones I had somehow?
Thanks a ton, and thanks will be given!
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here is a link you may want to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790427 . but radios i believe you can flash older ones. its hboots that i think(not 100% on that) you can not go backward on. as for nand look at the link,i believe unless the rom you flash has radios those stay the same when going back. if you like warm 2.2 rls5 then maybe you should try synergy(myn is one of the devs on that ) is a 2.1 with 3.0 gb rom. hope some of my rambling helps you out

[Q] Should I flash radio? (Intermittent reception of SMS, poor call signal)

Greetings!
Thanks for stoppin' in. Hate to clutter the posts, but all my browsing/searching through the site thus far has lead me to older links that don't seem to answer my questions.
My history with my HTC Droid Incredible has always been a mix of positive and negative. One thing I've always been plagued by is a hit-or-miss experience with my call signal and messages.
Details:
-Incoming calls don't ring and go straight to voicemail (I use google voice).
-Many calls are plagued by static or generally poor signal.
-Text and image messages are often not received, or when they are, they often arrive hours after the fact (even the next day).
I've been told that flashing a ROM to a rooted device may include flashing the radio and that each ROM may include its own copy of a radio version. Is this true?
Is flashing the radio typically part of the ROM?
What version of the radio is considered best or most efficient for a VZW HTC Droid Incredible currently?
Is it worthwhile to flash the radio separately?
I'm currently on the beta ICS Miui rom and running smoothly aside from a small handful of buggy behaviors. I've seen these issues on stock as well as Cyanogen 7 and other MIUI ROMs. This is also my second (or third?) Incredible, having had it replaced under Warranty in the past and have typically always had some issues of this kind. Typically, I've just considered some of it to be part of the luck of the draw when using a cell phone.
Anywhos, thanks for the help, folks! If you need further details, please feel free to ask.

No custom roms come with radios that i have ever seen.
Flashing a raido may help your situation and it may not. As to which radio, it is really a matter of which one works best for you.
Here is a page with a bunch of radios that are all compatible with the incredible, even the ones labeled evo. http://dinc.does-it.net/radios

I go with the 07.07 radio (GB update version) it works fine, that or the newest Evo radio. 08.08 or 12.19. I live in a splotchy signal area and from playing with it, it seems the newest ones work best for me.

Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the suggestions and input - I'll look into it as soon as I have a chance to get to a computer and such.
Looks like I need to re-flash my ROM as it is, given the alpha of Miui ICS I've been using isn't behaving very dependably at this time.
After I figure out a way to back things up and actually load into recovery (another mysterious issue has recently cropped up where I cannot get past HBOOT), I'll get a fresh ROM done and try another radio.
Anything I should be aware of regarding the radio with consideration to the process or eventually returning to stock if needed?
Kudos!
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA

General Update:
I tried a number of different solutions to my recently developed issue of being unable to boot recovery. I could get into HBOOT, but every time I tried selecting Recovery, it would default into another reboot of HBOOT. ROM Manager hasn't been any assistance either, as directing it to load into Recovery only brings up HBOOT.
On a whim, I decided to go ahead and try re-flashing Recovery (first option in ROM Manager), despite it showing that it was updated to the latest edition. I then attempted to reboot into Recovery right after and ...drum roll... it worked! Go figure. -_-;; ah well! Figured the suggestion of re-flashing the Recovery might help others looking for a solution.
I'm going to go ahead and see about wiping and flashing a new, stable ROM and then I'll jump into the radio suggestions above.
Thanks again!

Naming patterns?
bukithd said:
I go with the 07.07 radio (GB update version) it works fine, that or the newest Evo radio. 08.08 or 12.19. I live in a splotchy signal area and from playing with it, it seems the newest ones work best for me.
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I'm looking at the link provided by the other person above and seeing interesting naming patterns. IIRC I'm currently on the 2.15.00.07.28.
Just want to make-sure I'm reading this right - is 2.15.10.07.07 newer than 2.15.00.11.19? I would guess so, plus I'm gathering that it was the version you suggested.
Further, what are the effects of using an EVO radio? Sorry for being such a noob, but I'm honestly curious!
Thanks.

Nothing wrong with using an evo radio. I use the 07.28 myself but its because it works best in my area.
Sent from my ADR6300 using xda premium

wigmuke said:
I'm looking at the link provided by the other person above and seeing interesting naming patterns. IIRC I'm currently on the 2.15.00.07.28.
Just want to make-sure I'm reading this right - is 2.15.10.07.07 newer than 2.15.00.11.19? I would guess so, plus I'm gathering that it was the version you suggested.
Further, what are the effects of using an EVO radio? Sorry for being such a noob, but I'm honestly curious!
Thanks.
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Correct, 07.07 is newer than 11.19 radio. 11.19 was released in November of 2010, 07.07 was in July of 2011.

Thanks! Learn something new everyday.

I completed flashing the radio! Yay.
Didn't realize at first that it needed to be flashed via HBOOT (though I should've assumed such based on the name), rather than Recovery, but got it taken care of w/o incident.
Immediately, I've seen an increase in signal strength (max bands), and received a text msg that would've been sent earlier this morning. I'm looking forward to seeing further improvements!
Thanks everyone for your assistance.

i use the evo 08.08 radio and it works like a charm...i tried all the radios but i found this one works the best!

How are you guys flashing these radios to your incredible phone? I kept trying by booting into HBoot and renaming the radios to PB31IMG.ZIP but it won't flash it, because the Security mode is ON S-ON. I have the OTA GB update with 07.07 but I can't seem to turn S OFF

dAii7 said:
How are you guys flashing these radios to your incredible phone? I kept trying by booting into HBoot and renaming the radios to PB31IMG.ZIP but it won't flash it, because the Security mode is ON S-ON. I have the OTA GB update with 07.07 but I can't seem to turn S OFF
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You must have s-off to flash radios. One question, what is your hboot version? To attain s-off for:
.92 then follow this guide here
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1.02 then follow this guide here
The only experience I have and can reliably speak on is installing radios while s-off AND having hboot .92. I can't speak to the success rate of installing a radio with hboot 1.02, it's entirely different and unfamiliar to me.

I recently started using the 12.19 evo radio and it is much better regular signal wise although somehow 3g seems spottier