Okay, so here are the specs of my phone:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-2 S-OFF
0.79.0000
041f
Radio - 2.05.00.06.10
I really love the battery life that I get with myn's warm 2.2, and I could live with it, but I was really wanting to try GB. I thought I read somewhere that after I update the radios then I can't go back. So...
1) assuming I've got a nandroid of what I have now, can I just start flashing away with GB from xHausx and the newest radios
2) If I decide that I don't like the new setup, if i restore my nandroid, will the updated radios remain, and if they do can I go back to the old ones I had somehow?
Thanks a ton, and thanks will be given!
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btyking said:
Okay, so here are the specs of my phone:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-2 S-OFF
0.79.0000
041f
Radio - 2.05.00.06.10
I really love the battery life that I get with myn's warm 2.2, and I could live with it, but I was really wanting to try GB. I thought I read somewhere that after I update the radios then I can't go back. So...
1) assuming I've got a nandroid of what I have now, can I just start flashing away with GB from xHausx and the newest radios
2) If I decide that I don't like the new setup, if i restore my nandroid, will the updated radios remain, and if they do can I go back to the old ones I had somehow?
Thanks a ton, and thanks will be given!
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here is a link you may want to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790427 . but radios i believe you can flash older ones. its hboots that i think(not 100% on that) you can not go backward on. as for nand look at the link,i believe unless the rom you flash has radios those stay the same when going back. if you like warm 2.2 rls5 then maybe you should try synergy(myn is one of the devs on that ) is a 2.1 with 3.0 gb rom. hope some of my rambling helps you out
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I've been reading through the forums since the release of unrevoked forever... Flashed it, I'm s-off and running. I was going to hold off until OTA released, but got bored today and decided to mess around with all of this now.
So today I flashed the 2.15 radio that was leaked to the board. After that, I installed SkyRaider 2.5.2 from Clockwork in recovery, which I believe also flashed a new kernel.
My question is... since unrevoked forever and s-off, I can flash between pretty much anything without issue, right?
I found a stock 1.00.03.04.06 radio flash file on here as well. So I restored back to stock 2.1, and then put the 1.00 stock radio on the root of SD card, booted into HBOOT and it flashed back the stock radio.
Is there any issues with doing this? I got excited to be back on Froyo (did this weeks ago with another version of SkyRaider, the leaked OTA, etc... But then went completely back to stock with RUU, re-rooted, etc)... I just want to make sure that doing this isn't going to cause any issues. I would assume at this point, with s-off, it doesn't matter... But, don't want to mess up the phone.
Also - Can someone on stock 2.1 who is also waiting for OTA confirm my versions?
Firmware - 2.1-update1
Baseband - 1.00.03.04.06
Kernel - 2.6.29-cc1c2268, [email protected] #1
Software - 1.22.605.2
I know from the unrevoked wiki they say that running different hboots, radios and kernels might result in an unstable phone.
Thanks.
If I'm reading this correctly it sounds like you bravely accomplished something that everyone has been speculating and wondering about since Forever was released: Downgrading a radio by simply flashing it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think most were afraid to try it for fear of bricking.
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Yes I would like to know also, are you saying that while being 2.2 with 2.15 radio you loaded the 1.x radio img and just flashed it in Hboot? Or did you go through the RUU downgrading method?
Haha... I didn't realize I was being brave. I thought I was just following what everyone else did.
My process was.... On 2.1 update 1 with 1.00 radio... I then flashed the 2.15 radio using HBOOT. It started fine, checked and saw 2.1 update 1 with the 2.15 radio. Booted into Clockwork and did an install of SkyRaider 2.5.2. That was running just fine... But I decided that I wanted to go back "stock" and would wait for 2.2 OTA.
So with that, I found the radio and recovery from on http://adrynalyne.us/. That zip contains just the radio image and recovery (radio 1.00). So with that, I did a restore in Clockwork back to my backup of stock 2.1... Shut down after it restored, booted into HBOOT with that zip of 1.00 radio from the adrynalyne website and it restored back to 1.00 radio.
I did not RUU or anything else. My understanding of s-off was that we could flash pieces one at a time without running into issues... That included radio, kernels, etc.
Everything seems to be running just fine from yesterday through today.
SimonTuffGuy said:
Haha... I didn't realize I was being brave. I thought I was just following what everyone else did.
My process was.... On 2.1 update 1 with 1.00 radio... I then flashed the 2.15 radio using HBOOT. It started fine, checked and saw 2.1 update 1 with the 2.15 radio. Booted into Clockwork and did an install of SkyRaider 2.5.2. That was running just fine... But I decided that I wanted to go back "stock" and would wait for 2.2 OTA.
So with that, I found the radio and recovery from on http://adrynalyne.us/. That zip contains just the radio image and recovery (radio 1.00). So with that, I did a restore in Clockwork back to my backup of stock 2.1... Shut down after it restored, booted into HBOOT with that zip of 1.00 radio from the adrynalyne website and it restored back to 1.00 radio.
I did not RUU or anything else. My understanding of s-off was that we could flash pieces one at a time without running into issues... That included radio, kernels, etc.
Everything seems to be running just fine from yesterday through today.
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So maybe you just made history because I've been trying like hell to get out of someone whether that was possible? From that point you could I guess flash the ota to take you to 2.0 if you wanted? I am not interested in going back to 1.x but maybe 2.0
The following post seems to say the same thing (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7692494&postcount=190)
trombone dixie said:
here's what i did:
my brother has a DInc as well so he let me use his phone to mount my microSD card. I removed the 2.15 radio and put on the stock one 1.00.03.04.06 back on the root of my microSD. put my microSD back in my phone booted holding down volume and power. installed the downgraded version and phone is working again.
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I can't confirm re-installing the leaked OTA that upgrades you to 2.0 radio... But I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I seem to remember a post that warned about constantly flashing radios when s-off first came out though.
I have a new post on the 2.15 radio thread in the development forum for more clarification about going from 2.15 to 1.00, etc.
Sup,
I was just wondering if there is a way to figure out which ruu version my phone came with. I'm all rooted and aint goin back if Idont have to but just in case something goes wrong and I have to unroot. Thanks in advance.
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76 - Netarchy 4.2.1 CFS HAVS
RUU's are an exe file that basically flashes things to your phone instead of recovery. if your rooted all you need to know is you never take any OTA's and you will never lose root, just flash the updated ROM of choice. The only reason you would really need to even have an RUU is if you wanted to lose root
r.storm85 said:
Sup,
I was just wondering if there is a way to figure out which ruu version my phone came with. I'm all rooted and aint goin back if Idont have to but just in case something goes wrong and I have to unroot. Thanks in advance.
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76 - Netarchy 4.2.1 CFS HAVS
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Yeah I just been seeing people having problems going back to stock with some RUUs. And I seen around quite a bit that if you use the exact ruu that came with your phone you wont have any issues. Maybe I dont have to but rather take the "safer" route. So I rooted a long time ago and have no idea what ruu I was on. This is what I do know about my stock phone.
Hboot 0.93
Hardware Ver. 0003
Radio 2.15.00.07.28
Oh wait my phone was originally 2.1 then I did the froyo update then that was my info. So actually im noy sure about.my original build...damn...any help anyways?
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
r.storm85 said:
Yeah I just been seeing people having problems going back to stock with some RUUs. And I seen around quite a bit that if you use the exact ruu that came with your phone you wont have any issues. Maybe I dont have to but rather take the "safer" route. So I rooted a long time ago and have no idea what ruu I was on. This is what I do know about my stock phone.
Hboot 0.93
Hardware Ver. 0003
Radio 2.15.00.07.28
Oh wait my phone was originally 2.1 then I did the froyo update then that was my info. So actually im noy sure about.my original build...damn...any help anyways?
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
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You'll probably want to use the 3.29. The 3.70 may work for you but it's probably safer to use the older one and then let the phone update itself afterward.
Yeah that seems right..thanks for the help
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
With all these new sense roms out im wanting to check them out. Ive been running CM6 and now CM7 nighties for a while. I flashed my radios when i first rooted and flashed fresh 3.4. Ive read alot about flashing radios messing up phones. So i have been real unsure on flashing them again. When you flash one of these new roms is it a MUST to flash the new radios, or is it preferred? Does a nandroid back up your current radio? and how important is it to keep your radios updated. I just want to be clear as can be on this issue. Thanks
shdwboy said:
With all these new sense roms out im wanting to check them out. Ive been running CM6 and now CM7 nighties for a while. I flashed my radios when i first rooted and flashed fresh 3.4. Ive read alot about flashing radios messing up phones. So i have been real unsure on flashing them again. When you flash one of these new roms is it a MUST to flash the new radios, or is it preferred? Does a nandroid back up your current radio? and how important is it to keep your radios updated. I just want to be clear as can be on this issue. Thanks
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It does seem that all of the new roms are suggesting to update the radios. In my experience, it has not been required to update the radios, depending on which kernel you use. (any custom kernel will work) I believe it has more to do with the PRI I did update my radios prior to flashing Myn's RLS5, because it was suggested to do so. I updated my radio, PRI, NV, and Wimax in a combo flash. No problems. Rom ran fine, but my battery life was terrible. I downgraded my radio back to 2.15.00.09.01, and flashed the htc 17 kernel. It gave me a wake lock. I then downgraded the PRI from 1.90 to 1.77, and have been currently running that on RLS5 with zero issues, and good battery life. Wake lock went away after the PRI. If I'm not mistaken, the reason you're suggested to update the radios, is because the newer HTC 15 kernel requires you to use the updated radio and PRI, and most of the current sense 3.70 roms come with the htc 15 kernel. As far as nandroids go, I'm 99.9% sure that they do not back up you're radios or anything. Amon RA, and I believe the newer clockwork will back up your Wimax RSA keys, however. I also flashed Mikfroyo last weekend, for a test run. I left my radios at the older version, and didn't upgrade, despite the suggestion. I ran the htc 17 kernel with that as well, and had zero issues whatsoever. So I'm not positive why it is suggested, other than I think the new HTC 15 kernel doesn't play well with the older radio/PRI.
Thank you. Yea I have the radio and prl versions u downdraded to. Im planning on flashing mikfroyo tonight. Just wanted to play with sense again. Do any of the kings kernels like #9 amd #11 work with the newer ota?
shdwboy said:
Thank you. Yea I have the radio and prl versions u downdraded to. Im planning on flashing mikfroyo tonight. Just wanted to play with sense again. Do any of the kings kernels like #9 amd #11 work with the newer ota?
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I honestly haven't flashed either of those kernels in a while, definitely not on any of the 3.70 software. I would speculate that they'd work fine, but can't confirm for sure. As long as you have a recent nandroid, you'll be fine. Just try it out and see how the phone runs. If it's no good, either nandroid back, or flash a different kernel. It is a neverending challenge, trying to find the perfect for a specific phone. I wish you luck!
Spring Evo 4g
HBOOT: 2.10.0001
Model: PC36100
Hardware:0003
Android：2.2
Kernel 2.6.32.17
Baseband：2.15.00.11.19
Software3.70.651.1
PRI:1.90_003
Rooted with Unrevoked.
After upgrade Baseband, I got very bad signal and want to roll it back.
1. Tried to use cm recovery 2.6 to install zip file containing radio image to 2.05.00.06.10, not sucessful. However, every time it turn to 2.15.00.11.19 after reboot. I fell 6 vibrations during flash, do not know why.
2. Tried to use fastboot flash radio image，but I got "remote not allowed" message!
Could any body help out?
Thanks.
请高手们指点一下吧！谢谢谢谢！
2.10.0001 radio is non-downgradeable on new hardware models.
Your phone has the new block size that is not compatible with the old radios and the remote not allowed error is because you are not using the eng hboot. Unfortunately it is not compatible as is either.
You can force it to downgrade and I believe I found a way to make it work with the new block sizes, but it's never been tested.
Ill test it. Got an extra new block size
snandlal said:
Ill test it. Got an extra new block size
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If it doesn't work though you're pretty much guaranteed to be bricked. But if it's a phone you're not worried about I've been dying to find out if this will actually work.
Yes i will sacrafice. Gettin a nexus s 4g anyways...seriously will test tho
snandlal said:
Yes i will sacrafice. Gettin a nexus s 4g anyways...seriously will test tho
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Right on, all you need to do is downgrade to the eng hboot from the hboot and before rebooting or doing anything set 'fastboot -n 4096'
That *should* let you use the eng hboot. You still won't be unable to downgrade your radio though, although afterward it may let you flash the old radios without so much as a warning.
Ok will do. Hboot usb or fastboot usb?
Tryed this but i still get six short vibrates when flashing the radio
snandlal said:
Tryed this but i still get six short vibrates when flashing the radio
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fastboot USB, as I previously said you will probably never be able to downgrade the radio. Sorry but that's just how it is.
Are you able to at least use your phone with the .76 hboot?
its weird.. there should be a way!!
wolfort said:
Spring Evo 4g
HBOOT: 2.10.0001
Model: PC36100
Hardware:0003
Android：2.2
Kernel 2.6.32.17
Baseband：2.15.00.11.19
Software3.70.651.1
PRI:1.90_003
Rooted with Unrevoked.
After upgrade Baseband, I got very bad signal and want to roll it back.
1. Tried to use cm recovery 2.6 to install zip file containing radio image to 2.05.00.06.10, not sucessful. However, every time it turn to 2.15.00.11.19 after reboot. I fell 6 vibrations during flash, do not know why.
2. Tried to use fastboot flash radio image，but I got "remote not allowed" message!
Could any body help out?
Thanks.
请高手们指点一下吧！谢谢谢谢！
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Instead of downgrading so far back, have you tried downgrading the baseband from 2.15.00.11.19 to 2.15.00.09.01? If not, give it a try. You can download it and all of the other EVO radios from the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
UPDATE: Disregard. The original post was dated April 8th.
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If i wanted to go back and try Android 2.1 roms, do i have to downgrade the radios as well?
Trying not to make a new thread but....say if I am using a 2.2 Rom with the 2.15.00.11.09 radio and I want to flash to a 2.1 rom(I'm talking bout far back as the rooted shipped stock ROM from last June. Would I need to downgrade my radio? And does that stock ROM already come prepackaged with a kernel. I'm pretty sure the kernel needs to be downgraded for it to be compatible. When I got my EVO in Sept, I was already on 2.2. Never tried 2.1 but have always been curious to try it and see how much worse it is. Then I could say I've finally tried all three versions of Android on my phone and how far we have progressed
As you've stated, the problem would not necessarily be the rom itself not working with the new radios, but whether or not the default kernel would work properly. Give it a shot. The worst that *should* happen is bootlooping. At that point, you can either reboot into recovery and flash a different kernel or downgrade the radio, PRI and NV. Of course, this is my opinion. You can download the rom from here . By the way, according to the descriptions on the shipped roms, the radios appear to be included.
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just read that i can't downgrade my radio because i'm running the 2.10 HBOOT and on HW003. but if downgrading the radio is not necessarily important to run a rooted 2.1 rom then i don't have much to worry about do i? also, those links you posted: i can flash those RUU's in recovery like i would any other rom? i don't want to go back to stock and be unrooted.
i was thinking of running the 1.32.651.1 rooted rom from Flipzmode, and if need to - download the appropirate kernel link next to it on the detailed ROM wiki thread maintained by Toast.
You cannot downgrade your HBOOT from 2.10 (not necessarily accurate) without a risk of problems, however, you can downgrade the baseband, PRI and NV. I've done it several times. I've downgrade from baseband 11.19 to 09.01. As well as upgrade to 04.08. I've also downgraded my PRI from 1.90 to 1.77 all while having HBOOT 2.10.
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i've downgraded my PRI because of the wakelock issues.
so you can downgrade the baseband to a certain extent? only within the 2.15 radios? but you cant downgrade to the radios that were on Eclair? if i can run 2.1 roms on 2.15 radios then by all means i'm going to try it out. thanks for the info doug
I have been running CM7.03 ever since I got a little help last time I decided to root and try custom rom and I am now trying to update everything that needs updating also install new RC1 CM7 7.1. Whats the best/ easiest way to update profile/radio/etc. when your a noob with a basic understanding of flashing? Should I just restore old Sprint original rom and update like that or should I just flash new stuff? Please help noob get up to date because my 3g connection is a little weak compared to a couple months ago! How do I check to see if S-off and does new CM7 RC1 include any updated kernel/radio? Can someone please give me a short guide to getting updated and running new CM7 RC1 with EVO hardware ver. 4. Thanks Again I did learn alot last time but I am scared of bricking! What do I need to keep updated?
to get the newer radios go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485 after downloading (go for combo) put on sdcard and goto recovery wipe 2x min.(cache,dalvik) and you flash radios just like flashing a rom and then update profile , to check for s-off power down phone the press hold power and volume down bootloader screen will show something like this and it will say S-OFF or S-ON
supersonic evt2-3 ship s-off
hboot-2.10.0001
microp-041f
touch panel-atmel224_16ab
radio-2.14.00.05.02
etc.........
hope that helps
Beware when flashing and installing radios and such, do not pull the battery or let the battery fall out. Sure way to brick. Little different from flashing roms.
jayharper08 said:
Beware when flashing and installing radios and such, do not pull the battery or let the battery fall out. Sure way to brick. Little different from flashing roms.
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Yea, its not recommend flashing with below 35% battery. You CAN, but unless you're good at it, I wouldn't, especially with flashing radios. Normal flash, fine, radios, that's a no no.
I'm pretty sure that if you're running CM, you're S-Off....
Call it a whim, but, just sayin'
yeah forgot that part, thanks guys