hi i am a complete newbie to android and htc desire i haven't even got the phone yet but i am getting it this week (been paying it off)
it is as far as i am aware a Telstra HTC Desire A8183
i assume it has the stock android 2.1 on it and i would like to root the phone and install a custom rom on it i don't need all the bells and whistles i just want to get rid of all the telstra crap apps on it
i am a telstra prepaid customer and would like to use their nextg network so i need a custom rom hopefully at least 2.2 froyo (i assume there is no gingerbread one yet for the htc desire)
and would like to use most all the features i can on the phone
can someone give me a android for dummies guide for rooting the phone and installing a custom rom that will work well on this (i assume telstra branded) htc desire
if you could suggest a good rom to use on this too would appreciate it
also can i ask when installing a custom rom is it installing on a microsd card on on the phone's actual memory
does it replace the default rom on there and is it better to run the rom on the microsd card or on the phones onboard memory (performance and reliability wise)
sorry for all the questions but as i said complete newbie and just get more confused the more i read on the site i need some clear step by step instructions
on how to do these things and suggestions for the right rom for my phone
thanks
1. Search the forum, everything you need is on here (and it's also Rule no. 1 of the forum)
2. When you get the phone, just use it as you may find rooting it isn't needed
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Ok, i was really pissed at HTC beause of the whole HTC Hero 2.1 issue, but since i got the offer to get an HTC Desire for only 300 Euros without contract i couldn't say no.
Now i have a few questions for those people who already have the Desire:
1. I know that i can use some kind of .apk to be able to switch to the regular Android home. Will HTC Sense then start less apps on startup? Because as far as i know, you won't be able to use HTC Widgets with the regular Android home so i was hoping that this also means less stuff being automatically started all the time (like HTC Footprints).
2. Does rooting the TMobile HTC Desire already work? How complicated is the process? I'm not a smartphone newbie, but haven't rooted an Android device yet.
3. I read that rooting the Desire caused some "random bricking" even if everything was done correctly. Is this issue still there?
4. If i root my device, and install FroYo, what will happen if there is a new update? Can i install new updates OTA or do i have to wait until the community provides the new version?
5. How easy is it to switch back to stock rom, if i realize that i prefer HTC Sense?
Thanks for your Help!
1. I know that i can use some kind of .apk to be able to switch to the regular Android home. Will HTC Sense then start less apps on startup? Because as far as i know, you won't be able to use HTC Widgets with the regular Android home so i was hoping that this also means less stuff being automatically started all the time (like HTC Footprints).
THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY TO START WITH SENSE UI OR STANDARD ANDROID HOME.
2. Does rooting the TMobile HTC Desire already work? How complicated is the process? I'm not a smartphone newbie, but haven't rooted an Android device yet.
DON'T WORRY ABOUT ROOTING. IT'S EASY FOR A "NORMAL" SMARTPHONE USER THAT HAVE A GOOD KNOWLEDGE OF LINUX WORLD.
3. I read that rooting the Desire caused some "random bricking" even if everything was done correctly. Is this issue still there?
SEE POINT 2
4. If i root my device, and install FroYo, what will happen if there is a new update? Can i install new updates OTA or do i have to wait until the community provides the new version?
YOU CAN GO-BACK TO OFFICIAL HTC ROM USING RUU SOFTWARE
5. How easy is it to switch back to stock rom, if i realize that i prefer HTC Sense?
VERY EASY USING RUU
Hi guys, I'm new here and i've just had my Desire for just over a week.
Apparently I need to use a Goldcard to root my desire and wanted to ask a couple of questions in regards to this.
-My understanding is that the Telstra Desires are unlocked, therefore not needing a Goldcard?
-After the rooting process is finished do you still need the Goldcard or is it only needed while you initially root the phone?
-During the rooting process, you replace the original rom with another rom, can this be any rom on the market that is rooted? or should it be the recommended rom stated in the guide?
-Which set of files do i use during the rooting guides? as the phone is bootloader 0.75 but has a 1.16.841.1 rom?
I have done a fair amount of reading on other posts(XDA and MoDaCo) and just need to get a better understanding of how the rooting process works.
Desire Bootloader Shows:
BRAVO UNKNOW SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.75.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH-PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-4.05.00.11
Device:
Stock Telstra ROM
HTC Desire A8183
Build 1.16.841.1
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
jrc91 said:
Hi guys, I'm new here and i've just had my Desire for just over a week.
Apparently I need to use a Goldcard to root my desire and wanted to ask a couple of questions in regards to this.
-My understanding is that the Telstra Desires are unlocked, therefore not needing a Goldcard?
-After the rooting process is finished do you still need the Goldcard or is it only needed while you initially root the phone?
-During the rooting process, you replace the original rom with another rom, can this be any rom on the market that is rooted? or should it be the recommended rom stated in the guide?
-Which set of files do i use during the rooting guides? as the phone is bootloader 0.75 but has a 1.16.841.1 rom?
I have done a fair amount of reading on other posts(XDA and MoDaCo) and just need to get a better understanding of how the rooting process works.
Desire Bootloader Shows:
BRAVO UNKNOW SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.75.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH-PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-4.05.00.11
Device:
Stock Telstra ROM
HTC Desire A8183
Build 1.16.841.1
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Howdy, as I have a Telstra Desire I think I can help.
1. You need the gold card, there are guides about, but leave a message in this thread if you need specific direction.
2. I would use whatever ROM is in the guide, I have been using Rom Manager to switch ROM's since then though. (Which is currently broken for me, working on it now)
3. I used the 0.8 or greater guide one on mine, seemed to do the job.
so to sum it up
a. make gold card, I have kept this card on my 2gb micro sd
b. flash rom, I have this on my 4gb micro sd
c. use new stuff, I have a 16gb flash for my daily use.
Enjoy but be prepared to have a few bugs pop up. Also, no FROYO roms have video recording working yet..... (This is the biggest missing feature)
Thanks heaps.
So once you flash a custom ROM, you don't need the Goldcard to boot the device?
Is there any way to flash directly from a PC rather than copy the ROM to the SD card, or is it worth using ROM Manager?
And how do you install/use ROM Manager/clockwork? i assume you need to be rooted first?
have you had any problems with GPS since flashing custom roms?
Sorry, i've been reading heaps, and i think i'm confusing myself more than making sense.
Mate I have a Telstra Desire as well, I rooted/flashed it last night (after weeks of paranoia), and it's well worth it. Just follow the instructions closely and you will be right.
I am running 24/6 Modaco and GPS seemed to be working well this morning, battery consumption seems a little better, the overall performance is heaps better than stock.
What are you waiting for!? DO IT!!!!
Same here, if you need help you can pm me if you cant reach mrturkey
Great! i'll probably have a go this weekend.
A couple of other questions: are you still able to connect to the Telstra Next G Network? I assume you would be able to as you don't flash the radio?
So once you flash a custom ROM, you don't need the Goldcard to boot the device?
Is there any way to flash directly from a PC rather than copy the ROM to the SD card, or is it worth using ROM Manager?
And how do you install/use ROM Manager/clockwork? i assume you need to be rooted first?
Thanks in advance
jrc91 said:
Great! i'll probably have a go this weekend.
A couple of other questions: are you still able to connect to the Telstra Next G Network? I assume you would be able to as you don't flash the radio?
So once you flash a custom ROM, you don't need the Goldcard to boot the device?
Is there any way to flash directly from a PC rather than copy the ROM to the SD card, or is it worth using ROM Manager?
And how do you install/use ROM Manager/clockwork? i assume you need to be rooted first?
Thanks in advance
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Yep can still connect to NextG, I always check the APN's after putting a new rom as most of the time I have to change a couple of settings in them.
Don't need goldcard to boot after rooting is done
Best way to flash ROM's is from the SD card IMO.
The ROM manager / fakeflash methods are the easiest way to go (I use ROM manager) it is pretty straight forward to use, and yes you do need to root before using rom manager.
telstra next g vs 3g
Hi guys - just a quick question for those of you who are running Telstra Desires on Optus and other networks. Someone mentioned on whirlpool that the NextG version is actually missing the correct 3G band for running on the other networks (3G 900 Mhz?) and that the overseas/non-telstra versions are actually faster because they run at 3G speed rather than '2.5G'. Does that sound right to you, or is the speed of the Telstra Desire just fine on the Optus network?
Quote from Whirlpool:
I initially bought the Telstra-Branded Htc-Desire & brang it back for a REFUND.!
(I should of known better to listen to Telstra sales, as I hate branded phones)
I also use Optus, & having the Telstra branded one is, U miss out on the 3G 900mhz bandwidth...
Internet speeds have now gone waaay faster now & works like it's suppose too ... And so it should ...
OK well it indicates that it is connected as 3g, and in some areas h.
The speed seemed acceptable to me this morning when I downloaded some app updates.
How can I tell for sure whether its 2.5 or 3?
The NextG network is 3G. 2.5G is the old designation for GSM (or CDMA) networks with GPRS.
For optus you'll need to get the international version of the Desire (A8181) which works on the 900/2100 bands. According to wiki optus runs their own 3G network on 900. The telstra Desire runs on 850/2100.
btw...the "h" indicates HSPA support
jbngar said:
Hi guys - just a quick question for those of you who are running Telstra Desires on Optus and other networks. Someone mentioned on whirlpool that the NextG version is actually missing the correct 3G band for running on the other networks (3G 900 Mhz?) and that the overseas/non-telstra versions are actually faster because they run at 3G speed rather than '2.5G'. Does that sound right to you, or is the speed of the Telstra Desire just fine on the Optus network?
Quote from Whirlpool:
I initially bought the Telstra-Branded Htc-Desire & brang it back for a REFUND.!
(I should of known better to listen to Telstra sales, as I hate branded phones)
I also use Optus, & having the Telstra branded one is, U miss out on the 3G 900mhz bandwidth...
Internet speeds have now gone waaay faster now & works like it's suppose too ... And so it should ...
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I have a Telstra Desire running on the Optus network, and the speed is really good.
I rooted and my Desire over the weekend and loaded Modaco 1.21.mcr.2 CLxxxxxx ROM as a first custom ROM. Had a few issues with loading on the custom recovery after loading my custom rom (issues were due to adb drivers on windows OS - use a linux distro to load the recovery from UnrEVOked's recovery flashing thingamebob, then use ClockworkMod ROM Recovery from the Android market.
Ill try other ROMs this weekend once i am not using the phone for work...but all in all the phone is so much faster without the Telstra bloatware on it.
Thanks to all the developers around...(I will thank you financially aswell).
Hi guys/gals,
I'm going to root my Desire this weekend. I've had it for a couple of months and I want to try out different roms. But I keep having the same questions go through my head when I read the rooting guides and the flashing guides posted. I just really need to clarify a few things before I start to mess with the phone.
First, my desire was bought through VodaFone, so from what I can make out it's a Branded/Unlocked phone, correct? (meaning that the phone has a specific VF rom on it but it take sim cards from other carriers. I have not tested with another sim as of yet but form the VF forums it sounds like it's true)
So when I root the phone do I need a gold card or not?
Where can I get the generic 2.2 Desire rom from? (I'll get bashed for saying this but I like the sense UI)
OK whats all this talk about radio? is it just the FM radio (that I never use)?
I have been looking at using the modaco Custom rom, any good? I like the online kitchen thing...
Also I noticed that with CM6 there is Desire support (finally), can I still get CM6 with the sense UI? I just want to keep the phone how it is for now, once I get used to flashing it, then I'll try a more stock android ROM, but I have grown to like the Sense UI a lot recently.
Is there any thing else I need to know?
Oh, wavesecure.. Yay or Nay?
Thanks in advance.
First thing, go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a not of the software version on the unit. If you're on a Vodafone handset it'll show x.xx.161.x, if you're lucky enough to be on a generic handset it'll show x.xx.405.x
If you're on a 161 handset you'll need to make a gold card to allow the phone to pass CID checks to flash a generic HTC ROM. If you wanna go custom then you'll need to root the phone following the instructions dotted around random forums
Hi,
I had the same. Unbranded phone from VF UK, the updated it with the branding... I rooted it and flashed Neo's custom ROM from this site and not looked back!
Here are the steps I took, but please do your own research...
1. Use unrevoked to root.
2. Get Titanium backed to backup your apps.
3. Get a ROM and Radios you want to Flash, copy it to your device. I used Neo's 1.7.1.
4. Boot into the recovery menu.
5. Do a Nandroid backup.
6. Wipe the various caches...
7. Flash the device.
8. Flash the Radios.
Was simple. Didn't need a gold card.
Search for a Vodafone thread in the Q&A is a week old. I think its call Vodafone update not Froyo. I've posted in there too. On page 2 or 3 someone has posted instructions which I carefully followed to the letter...
Good luck!
Kiz
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Hi guys.
I am about to buy a HTC Desire tomorrow.
It is SOFTWARE-Branded to T-Mobile and has Android 2.1
But i dont want a T-Mobile Software-Branding and i want Android 2.2 (and 2.2 with all features ...) so i would like to flash to a Android 2.2 ROM where i dont have any branding and all features (Tethering ...)
So i guess i am searching for a way to make my Android 2.1 T-Mobile to a "rooted" Android 2.2 without branding and with all features.
How do i do this guys?
Im new to Flashing and ROMs and i never used Android before.
I hope u can help me until tomorrow
Greetings
erich
You should search...
'debranding desire 2.2'
search button says Hi! - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
new users, read the forum rules!
THX for the Thread !
Im very sorry
2 More Questions which are not answered in the thread:
-I will not lose HTC Sense when i root my HTC Desire right?
-Is there any way to extract and save my Android 2.1 by T-Mobile to restore it in case of a faild upgrade or warranty stuff?
erichbitch said:
THX for the Thread !
Im very sorry
2 More Questions which are not answered in the thread:
-I will not lose HTC Sense when i root my HTC Desire right?
-Is there any way to extract and save my Android 2.1 by T-Mobile to restore it in case of a faild upgrade or warranty stuff?
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1) no you wont if you mean sense ui.. that just depends if you want a custom ROM.. just read to see if its a sense ui, or a non- sense ui ROM..
2) no need! just run a correct RUU file to unroot and get your warrenty back! and before rooting you will probobly do a nandroid back up, so all's good
OK THX guys!
Another important question:
What is a good Android 2.2 ROM?
I first root my Android 2.1 T-Mobile by using unrevoked3 for excample.
Then i Flash Android 2.2 Froyo Stock - and then i root it again?
Is that right? But which ROM do i take if i want Android 2.2 with all Features?
I dont want a special ROM, just Android 2.2, Radio, and able to install my own Apps
Can i use this one?
XXX://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997
Or is it better do use a rooted-Stock-Froyo and use the Update-Packs for Undervolting, Newest Flash Player and Stuff?
XXX://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997&highlight=undervolt
Im thinking about The pre-rooted stock Froyo and use the Mods: PowerPack and FlashPlugin
Do what I did. Buy phone via contractor like mobile phones direct. I've ordered 600 min 500 txt and free internet but they gave me 900/500 and 1 gb of net that was capped. After I've received the phone I've emailed tmobile and said that mpd miss leaded me and I only have 1gb net of capped hsdpa but in t&c it says that it should be 3gb and complained about the speed. Next day they rang me and unlocked everything . And more importantly desire is unbranded so I had froyo update when it arrived.... Hope this helps.. Still have warranty and at the moment font need rooting
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Correct me if I'm wrong, but unlocking a phone still doesn't make it unbranded, as it has the customized software. However, this could trigger the update notification, which then would start the update process for FW2.2.
MrUsta said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but unlocking a phone still doesn't make it unbranded, as it has the customized software. However, this could trigger the update notification, which then would start the update process for FW2.2.
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Tmobile-Devices are unlocked but not rooted.
I want to root my device and then flash to Android 2.2 with all features and without Tmobile Software Branding
Go here:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
Download this ROM:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
Create a gold card, put it in the phone, make sure HTC Sync is connected and run that file - you're now on generic 2.2
EddyOS said:
Create a gold card, put it in the phone, make sure HTC Sync is connected and run that file - you're now on generic 2.2
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Can i also use "unrevoked3" to root my branded Desire and then flash a custom / original ROM?
unrevoked3 seems so much easyer to me
Quote:
Does unrevoked3 give me root?
Yes. It previously did not; as of version 3.0, it does.
What does this do, then?
unrevoked3 will replace the stock Android recovery with a custom one, which adds many features including “nandroid” backups, the ability to use custom ROMs, and a greater amount of flexibility and customization of your Android phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725738
Hi
I have a Desire on Vodafone which came with 2.2 and it works fine. I've seen 2.3 available on the htc developers site and according to their blurb I understand this would remove a lot of the bloatware. Would it be correct to assume that this would mean more memory for apps that I actually want to run?
I'm afraid I'm not very experienced with reflashing etc and would prefer not to go down that route because of warranty issues etc.
If I were you, i'd steer clear of the update. It's unstable and it's a bit of a task to get back to 2.2 once you'd upgraded (especially as you've mentioned that you've not got much experience with flashing).
It does remove bloatware and may give you a little more room with improved A2SD, but i'd personally install a FROYO 2.2 RUU - this would remove the branding.
As you've currently got a Vodafone branded device, you'll need to make sure that you create a goldcard.
I'd take a read through some of the tutorials on this site to get you started.
Thanks for that Matt, as you may have gathered my real issue is frreing up memory for apps. Can anyone tell me how easy the mod to to enable use some of the sd card is and which yje best ie easiest way to do that might be.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
the warranty issue is well, non existent. let me explain..
If you do decide to root and use a custom ROM, and all of a sudden your Desire develops a hardware glitch, all one has to do is use a RUU (Rom Update Utility) to restore the phone back to stock, and nobody will be none the wiser about what's been done to it before.
So personally, I'd recommend rooting and flashing a custom ROM. Since you're used to HTC Sense I'd try leedroid.
Also, even though it has some removed bloatware, I think that the 2.3 update actually comes with even less space than Froyo.