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Is it just me, or has the forum been up and down more often than a whores knickers these past few weeks? What's going on with the server? Been trying to get on all morning and just been getting timeouts...
same here
facing these probs frm dec
http://www.petitiononline.com/xdadevs/petition.html
This Petition aims to show the support for xda-developers.com's archive of 'ROM Images'
The Undersigned wish to notify Microsoft Corp. of their strong feelings against the recent demands to remove the 'ROM Images'. We feel that they bring more publicity and support to the 'Windows Mobile' platform and device: without this we feel they would not be as popular as they are to this date
Nah, this forum's reliability is shocking to say the least. It's almost down more then it's up and it's incredibly slow from Australia!
a123xxsp said:
http://www.petitiononline.com/xdadevs/petition.html
This Petition aims to show the support for xda-developers.com's archive of 'ROM Images'
The Undersigned wish to notify Microsoft Corp. of their strong feelings against the recent demands to remove the 'ROM Images'. We feel that they bring more publicity and support to the 'Windows Mobile' platform and device: without this we feel they would not be as popular as they are to this date
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Wrong thread, doofus.
tmaster100 said:
Nah, this forum's reliability is shocking to say the least. It's almost down more then it's up and it's incredibly slow from Australia!
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Yep, I second this. Would be nice to know what is going on...
a123xxsp said:
http://www.petitiononline.com/xdadevs/petition.html
This Petition aims to show the support for xda-developers.com's archive of 'ROM Images'
The Undersigned wish to notify Microsoft Corp. of their strong feelings against the recent demands to remove the 'ROM Images'. We feel that they bring more publicity and support to the 'Windows Mobile' platform and device: without this we feel they would not be as popular as they are to this date
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Completly un-related. The site is not been taken off line for M$ or HTC.
tmaster100 said:
Nah, this forum's reliability is shocking to say the least. It's almost down more then it's up and it's incredibly slow from Australia!
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The site admin is enjoying a well deserved rest.
Before xmas there were some issues identified and some fixes issued and all seemed OK. But now this...
Upon her return the issues will be investigated. I'm can't say if they are the same or new issues that are causing the recent outages.
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So at 5:39am CST, the only question I have for you is she is a she.
momentarylapseofreason said:
So at 5:39am CST, the only question I have for you is she is a she.
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See for your self: http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=298610
Seriously, keep this thread on topic, please.
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We're having some problems with the frontend webserver at the moment, investigation is ongoing. The System is just crashing randomly on us.
foobar423 said:
We're having some problems with the frontend webserver at the moment, investigation is ongoing. The System is just crashing randomly on us.
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Nice one mystery admin
Dave
FloatingFatMan said:
Wrong thread, doofus.
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Chill out man, I was thinking that maybe the were tries to move to other servers because of MS charges or anything like this.
Last night the forum and main page were down, but the wiki was up (definitely from 9PM-11PM EST).
Jason
FloatingFatMan said:
Is it just me, or has the forum been up and down more often than a whores knickers these past few weeks? What's going on with the server? Been trying to get on all morning and just been getting timeouts...
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Seriously gentleman, I like this forum as much as anyone, I visit at least every morning and night as part of my daily news round up , but you guys need girlfriends or something.
The site was down last night, so I did something else.
It is not like your Hundreds of dollars in subscription fees are going for not.
denco7 said:
Seriously gentleman, I like this forum as much as anyone, I visit at least every morning and night as part of my daily news round up , but you guys need girlfriends or something.
The site was down last night, so I did something else.
It is not like your Hundreds of dollars in subscription fees are going for not.
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Actually, If I got a girlfriend, I think my wife might not be too impressed...
I generally browse the forum when I'm at work.... If the forum's not working, that means I have to actually DO some work! Baaaaaaaad idea!
FloatingFatMan said:
Actually, If I got a girlfriend, I think my wife might not be too impressed...
I generally browse the forum when I'm at work.... If the forum's not working, that means I have to actually DO some work! Baaaaaaaad idea!
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Me too! waaajajajajajja
Glad it's back up! I was left in the dark last night
Also, hope some backup system servers are available in the future...
It seems we all get a case of the wobbles when XDA goes down
foobar423 said:
We're having some problems with the frontend webserver at the moment, investigation is ongoing. The System is just crashing randomly on us.
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I guess you have physical access to the hardware then.
Memtest the RAM modules.
Test for memory leaks
Try upgrading to the latest stable software - check logs for segfaults
Running software compiled against another version of a dependancy you have on your system?
Is your server virtualized?
Do a hard reset
adwinp said:
I guess you have physical access to the hardware then.
Memtest the RAM modules.
Test for memory leaks
Try upgrading to the latest stable software - check logs for segfaults
Running software compiled against another version of a dependancy you have on your system?
Is your server virtualized?
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ALWAYS FIXS MY DIAMOND
Is there any point of me releaseing apps or is the hack i keep reading about already public?
I highly doubt you will have a problem making money with any hack. The problem is way deeper than that.
What do you mean?
With the current market you will have a hard time getting found.
The update is said to fix market search though.
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Is there any point of me releaseing apps or is the hack i keep reading about already public?
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No, you might as well just skip WP7 and continue developing for iOS and Android because those OSes don't have piracy at all........
Of course there is a point to you releasing apps - sure, you can bypass security but you can do the same on _any_ other platform out there from iOS to the Xbox and Android to PS3. Piracy for mobile apps really is a non-problem due to the low cost of the apps/games and the fact it's much easier using the marketplace rather than faffing around with cracked apps (even on certain other platforms - with alternative marketplaces available - it's really not a problem).
Exactly piracy shiuld be the least of your worries. Good apps make money.
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Exactly piracy shiuld be the least of your worries. Good apps make money.
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+1. If your app is good enough, revenue will heavily outweigh the problem of piracy.
here is a howto on activating your live services
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10566003#post10566003
don't post here but on the other thread .
Damn, Craigslist here I come. The HD2 is awesome.
This is amazing... Only thing that would scare me is Microsoft finding out. We've seen how strict they can be with their policies, especially taking actions towards your Live account on Xbox... So I'd hate for this to lead to some accounts becoming suspended or penalized for using "hacked consoles" in a way...
Other than that, this is great... This is why I keep my older phones... Of course this is no use to me, but it gives HD2 users new life... Let's see how many of them stop bashing WP7 now that they have it
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This is amazing... Only thing that would scare me is Microsoft finding out. We've seen how strict they can be with their policies, especially taking actions towards your Live account on Xbox... So I'd hate for this to lead to some accounts becoming suspended or penalized for using "hacked consoles" in a way...
Other than that, this is great... This is why I keep my older phones... Of course this is no use to me, but it gives HD2 users new life... Let's see how many of them stop bashing WP7 now that they have it
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They can't touch you if you have Android on it. That's one reason I want to go with Android on my HD7 rather than do temporary hacks on it. But having a WP7 device, I have no desire to use it on my HD2. It just isn't that good to me now that the newness has work off.
I hope microsoft finds a way to block this quickly, just gonna lead to more hacking, then comes free paid apps, then comes a lack of good developers due to no financial plus-side, then comes the OS being just a prettier version of android....
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They can't touch you if you have Android on it. That's one reason I want to go with Android on my HD7 rather than do temporary hacks on it. But having a WP7 device, I have no desire to use it on my HD2. It just isn't that good to me now that the newness has work off.
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I was referring to the HD2 with WP7 as the hacked console... Hopefully the people who use it don't get hammered by Microsoft
z33dev33l said:
I hope microsoft finds a way to block this quickly, just gonna lead to more hacking, then comes free paid apps, then comes a lack of good developers due to no financial plus-side, then comes the OS being just a prettier version of android....
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Be careful, don't say this too loud, I was just attacked by some very close-minded users in another thread about it... People just don't understand, Microsoft doesn't have Apples marketing ability to overcome the blast that will come from all of these hacks. Even if you were being sarcastic, couldn't tell.
But I do think this is good for the HD2 users, at least it gives them hope for the expensive device some of them are bound to.
Nah, I'm 100 percent serious. I support third party applications no problem but getting paid apps for free is crap. Who wants to dev for a platform that can get their games for free?
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Nah, I'm 100 percent serious. I support third party applications no problem but getting paid apps for free is crap. Who wants to dev for a platform that can get their games for free?
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Ask MS about Windows? All versions? Ask developers about any platform? It isn't that big of a deal.
vetvito said:
Ask MS about Windows? All versions? Ask developers about any platform? It isn't that big of a deal.
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And every one of them continues to try and fix their holes. Unfortunately most OSes had crap security to work off of to begin with and its hard building on top of crap. Windows had fair security and im hoping they can fend off the people getting free apps at least for the Xbox live games or else we may never get ports of our favorite games to WP7
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And every one of them continues to try and fix their holes. Unfortunately most OSes had crap security to work off of to begin with and its hard building on top of crap. Windows had fair security and im hoping they can fend off the people getting free apps at least for the Xbox live games or else we may never get ports of our favorite games to WP7
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I don't think it has anything to do with getting paid apps free. Android has some of the best games going that people are ripping off right and left and devs continue to develop for it.
this has nothing to do with hacking apps , the code they use will be connected to the live account they use.
the os isn't hacked , only ms his market place on the pc hacked to download app's to the pc (they can fix it 10 sec, so don't ask me way they didn't fixed it)
you can see the hd2 got a legal update (not cracked what so ever ) from a illegal place
Could someone point me to a Windows 7 Rom for Hd2
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
demon187 said:
Could someone point me to a Windows 7 Rom for Hd2
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912416
Wp7 hd2 illegal
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Damn, Craigslist here I come. The HD2 is awesome.
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Really amazing, but... ILLEGAL
For those that find it too annoying to go back to 7004 and use chevron unlock all the way to mango.. Who's excited that Chevron labs opens in a few weeks? 9 bucks gets you infinite unlocks for ONE phone, and keeps your warranty intact.
As an avid homebrew lover, and windows phone fan. I'm pretty hyped to get to unlock my phone for cheap and not have to pay 100 to get it done.
Even interop will work? Registry editor?
no interop
kinda pointless for certain devs imo, but i'm not a dev, so i won't know
Ithink you should not worry about interop unlock, it will come, I am excited about chevronwp7's next release.
blanket said:
no interop
kinda pointless for certain devs imo, but i'm not a dev, so i won't know
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Yeah I'm not a dev either, but I do love the homebrew scene.
We've waited a long time for this. I'm interested in what this can do without forking over $99 on an annual basis. The only drawback that I can see using someone elses homebrew is the 'user beware' clauses, some apps may even have adverse effects. Looking forward to testing some simple apps of my own on the device.
It won't let you use a lot of the current homebrew apps, but it should make things like emulators feasible.
Questions
Ok guys, I have an HTC HD7 and it's now half bricked ( When I go to bootloader, I only have one line and I can't flash the phone anymore, but mango still working without issue).
I would like to know if it will be possible with Chevron Labs to unlock the phone even if it's half bricked or fix it so that I can flash the phone or deploy xap file?
Thanks in advance....
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Ok guys, I have an HTC HD7 and it's now half bricked ( When I go to bootloader, I only have one line and I can't flash the phone anymore, but mango still working without issue).
I would like to know if it will be possible with Chevron Labs to unlock the phone even if it's half bricked or fix it so that I can flash the phone or deploy xap file?
Thanks in advance....
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I would say that anyone here cant answer that, since we dont even have the tools yet.
sorry I'm new to wp7 here and I have one question. does chevronwp7 let me download any app on the market? if not what does it do? I heard it allows sideloading or something but I don't really get it. can someone explain chevron to me in simple words? sorry for the trouble.
Judging by the Chevron Labs site, it looks like its available now...
http://labs.chevronwp7.com/
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Judging by the Chevron Labs site, it looks like its available now...
http://labs.chevronwp7.com/
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I want to know what apps we can sideload using the chevron?
mrjetking said:
Judging by the Chevron Labs site, it looks like its available now...
http://labs.chevronwp7.com/
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Seems to be, I won't get to try it till I get home, but I've registered with my Live account and it's providing the next steps for me.
registering now
Excited, bought it, tried to install. Failed with non-specific error.
Sadness.
Will try to dig into later when I have some more time.
iwanthp said:
sorry I'm new to wp7 here and I have one question. does chevronwp7 let me download any app on the market? if not what does it do? I heard it allows sideloading or something but I don't really get it. can someone explain chevron to me in simple words? sorry for the trouble.
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Chevron: An official way to install apps that are not available in the Marketplace (homebrew apps) and follow the same development rules with all the other apps inside the Marketplace.
It is mostly designed for amateur developers and enthusiasts to test their apps, so, it's not a big deal for the rest of us.
You seemed to miss the point of it.
It's not about "unlocking" a phone, it's about providing access to developers (like myself) to the phone without having to rely on the emulator.
It also means applications that we develop, can be transported to the phone and used at our leisure.
The Homebrew Scene is a different thing all together, less to do with actual development and more to do with hacking.
And finally, complaining that you have to pay for something is pretty childish. How do you think you are able to write on this forum, people have to pay for stuff, there are bills etc, I know as a lone developer this can be hard work and I would like to think that I can make some money for my efforts (But then you probably think all applications on the Marketplace should be entirely free?)
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You seemed to miss the point of it.
It's not about "unlocking" a phone, it's about providing access to developers (like myself) to the phone without having to rely on the emulator.
It also means applications that we develop, can be transported to the phone and used at our leisure.
The Homebrew Scene is a different thing all together, less to do with actual development and more to do with hacking.
And finally, complaining that you have to pay for something is pretty childish. How do you think you are able to write on this forum, people have to pay for stuff, there are bills etc, I know as a lone developer this can be hard work and I would like to think that I can make some money for my efforts (But then you probably think all applications on the Marketplace should be entirely free?)
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I have corrected my post. Thanks for the info
Muvolt said:
I have corrected my post. Thanks for the info
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No worries dude, wasn't having a go at you, just wanted to clarify that point.
I also love and support the homebrew scene because there are no limits and the hackers are always finding new ways around things and importantly, "unlocking" ways to do things.
Excited??
How can I be excited about something that does not work:
Cannot buy tokens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very long waiting time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
very disappointing
I am a user of W10M and I was very impressed with the development potential that exists in this forum and also intrigued to think there has not arisen some great big hit app for Windows Phone from some kind of collaborative development from here.
Anyone here have no interest making an app to meet a demand like a really good youtube app or something else?
Windows Phone lack of good apps and if there someplace in the world that can change this reality is here, probably. There is so much to do and here are met very skilled people... I don't know... seems like everything is laying arround here, like tools, knowledge, experience, time, computing resources, even the good will, and etc... Let's face it, today Windows users depends, almost tottaly, on the development of people like you guys, just like the Linux community do... it's the only way, I think...
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I am a user of W10M and I was very impressed with the development potential that exists in this forum and also intrigued to think there has not arisen some great big hit app for Windows Phone from some kind of collaborative development from here.
Anyone here have no interest making an app to meet a demand like a really good youtube app or something else?
Windows Phone lack of good apps and if there someplace in the world that can change this reality is here, probably. There is so much to do and here are met very skilled people... I don't know... seems like everything is laying arround here, like tools, knowledge, experience, time, computing resources, even the good will, and etc... Let's face it, today Windows users depends, almost tottaly, on the development of people like you guys, just like the Linux community do... it's the only way, I think...
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Really, the main apps missing don't come from independent developers, but from banks, stores, public transportation/airports/airlines, schools, etc.
Until market share picks up, or we make enough fuss, they won't see it as worth the time and effort to deploy apps for windows phone.
here in Croatia, for example, we have bunch of banking apps (almost all banks here have windows apps) because we were annoying
for my bank PBZ, we gathered and every week sent requirements for banks apps six months. Today we have:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/mpbz/9nblggh093bh
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/pbzmtoken/9nblggh0f4rr
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/mpbzcom/9nblgggzkjmg
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/american-express-myaccount/9nblggh52jmn
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/p/pbz-wave-2-pay-sticker/9wzdncrdjzv4
so, dont be lazy. find people who want some apps also, and every week send request for apps to banks, developers... and maybe you got apps...
P:S
here is apps from other banks here:
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/p/addiko-mobile-hrvatska/9nblggh0k1m0
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/apps/m-zaba/9nblggh0fv21
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/apps/m-zabaps/9wzdncrdt4n0
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/p/poba-m-token/9nblggh0jxxl
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/p/rba-na-dlanu/9wzdncrdl8v0
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Really, the main apps missing don't come from independent developers, but from banks, stores, public transportation/airports/airlines, schools, etc.
Until market share picks up, or we make enough fuss, they won't see it as worth the time and effort to deploy apps for windows phone.
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Oh, sorry I have no idea about this fact.
In my experience I see the big majority are shytty unofficial apps and unofficial clients for the big apps we don't have a official version yet, this big majority apps comes from individual developers or small software houses, and the official versions are kind of shytty too, because all lacks of important features, this is what actually we have at our disposal: a bone to the dogs, the leftovers, this is what they have to offer to W10M users. My point is: if we want to have something really good, this will have to come from us, because we are the only people who actually cares with this O.S.
dxdy said:
here in Croatia, for example, we have bunch of banking apps (almost all banks here have windows apps) because we were annoying
for my bank PBZ, we gathered and every week sent requirements for banks apps six months. Today we have:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/mpbz/9nblggh093bh
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/pbzmtoken/9nblggh0f4rr
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/mpbzcom/9nblgggzkjmg
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/american-express-myaccount/9nblggh52jmn
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/p/pbz-wave-2-pay-sticker/9wzdncrdjzv4
so, dont be lazy. find people who want some apps also, and every week send request for apps to banks, developers... and maybe you got apps...
P:S
here is apps from other banks here:
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/p/addiko-mobile-hrvatska/9nblggh0k1m0
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/apps/m-zaba/9nblggh0fv21
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/apps/m-zabaps/9wzdncrdt4n0
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/p/poba-m-token/9nblggh0jxxl
https://www.microsoft.com/hr-hr/store/p/rba-na-dlanu/9wzdncrdl8v0
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Dude... I'm not lazy... at all my friend... Maybe you don't get what is my point here, I don't want make a fuss like a children begging for something, I want more, we deserve dignity and respect too... The fuss was made already along the years, and we have not been heard, they just shut up us with a pacifier, some diversion to take our attention... until today we don't have even a good FB app, we have a official app but it don't have live streaming and video calls on FB messeger, we always have less then the others plataforms. Linux is the example for us here, they are by himself and they are going well. We have to send a message with a really good big hit app like Youtube or something else...
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I don't want make a fuss like a children begging for something, I want more, we deserve dignity and respect too... The fuss was made already, along the years and we have not been heard, they just shut up us with a pacifier, some diversion to take our attention...
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Are you familiar with the idiom "The squeaky wheel gets the oil"?
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Are you familiar with the idiom "The squeaky wheel gets the oil"?
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No, it's new to me. I'm not familiar with english idioms, but I get it...
Like I said, we squeak for a long time and no one seems to care about... They doesn't oil this squeaky wheel, they just make a palliative repair to temporarily stop our noise. They seems not interested in take action to solve the problem once and for all.
My point is: if we could make this great free app (wich we will not do, I know), it will make their irresponsibility with us something embarrassing to then (Google and Microsoft), worldwide. That would be a big squeak.
I wanted a awesome Windows 10 Mobile experience. That is what we paid for, and that we deserve, like the others plataforms are getting.
Big companies (Facebook, Google) are just rich, stupid and cocky... today they are only interested in profit. They are faceless money-sucking parasites who don't care nothing about the users needs from a minor low-profit plataform. We are just a problem to cover up.
But we in other hand (me, at last), have pride. We are enthusiasts and care about this. and we should take care of this situation, that's what I think...
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My point is: if we could make this great free app (wich we will not do, I know), it will make their irresponsibility with us something embarrassing to then (Google and Microsoft), worldwide.
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It's wishful thinking, but we (independent developers) simply do not have access to necessary APIs to develop third-party apps.
Many things can be taken care of through the browser, but still that is not enough in some instances (like my city's public transport system).
Again, you won't do much just ranting here.
You must harass them (facebook, google, etc) daily if necessary.
raphaelsolis said:
Big companies (Facebook, Google) are just rich, stupid and cocky... today they are only interested in profit. They are faceless money-sucking parasites who don't care nothing about the users needs from a minor low-profit plataform. We are just a problem to cover up.
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Businesses must care about profit first, for the owners and shareholders. That's a whole idea about business; otherwise please refer to the "communism" or other "-isemes"...
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But we in other hand (me, at last), have pride. We are enthusiasts and care about this. and we should take care of this situation, that's what I think...
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"Pride" will not cover your time/money/other expenses. You should say "thanks" (in the opposite meaning of this word ) to the M$ who just screwed up a good platform.
Nobody wants to spend money to W10M anymore; there are no W10M jobs on the US market (at all!), many big companies are stopped WP/W10M support at all like Amazon etc. Indie devs are not happy too: if you have good idea, you may earn much more by developing to the other platforms (but you should spend same resources).
P.S. BTW, for your OP: I do have a good apps and games in the store (a lot of) and I always provided my development skills to the community (when I have the time of course)
OK. I gave the shot because here seemed to be the birth place of amazing Android mods like the cyanogenmods and some Windows Hacks... I thought app development for this guys was a child's play.
And, just to make clear about the APIs, I insisted in Youtube App because I know the paid app Metro Tube and seemed possible to do.
But you are totally right, it's wishful thinking...
Thanks for attention.
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Businesses must care about profit first, for the owners and shareholders. That's a whole idea about business; otherwise please refer to the "communism" or other "-isemes"...
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Yes, but not related. Big companies (Google and Facebook) started operations totally focused in offer something cool to users and make money in consequense. Have the users was to whole point. Now they have all the users of the whole world and it changed his attitude and can (stupidly) ignore who are not interesting for them, even if the reason for that is low-profit (but still profit, not a loss), for that I think they are cocky now. That is why I wrote "today" in that sentence. Today is another reality.
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"Pride" will not cover your time/money/other expenses. You should say "thanks" (in the opposite meaning of this word ) to the M$ who just screwed up a good platform.
Nobody wants to spend money to W10M anymore; there are no W10M jobs on the US market (at all!), many big companies are stopped WP/W10M support at all like Amazon etc. Indie devs are not happy too: if you have good idea, you may earn much more by developing to the other platforms (but you should spend same resources).
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Pride certainly will not cover. That is why I brought Linux like an example to follow. They work for themselves to serve all the community. Who have the knowledge helps and I believe you will did the same if a project like "W10M Free Youtube App" existed. This seemed our reality from now on...
Nice Apps by the way...
Thats why I want to emphasize: if we want start to reverse this scenario we have to start make something big by ourselves. W10M need apps to raise his market share? let's make the apps... by ourselves.
I believe if W10M show signs of growth it can grow exponentially when companies start to notice this.
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Yes, but not related. Big companies (Google and Facebook) started operations totally focused in offer something cool to users and make money in consequense.
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He-he, I wish to live in your world but "I'm too old for this sh&t" (c)
raphaelsolis said:
That is why I brought Linux like an example to follow. They work for themselves to serve all the community.
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Linux is a different kind of story; by the way, if you'll try to get help from a linux gurus or other kind of open source nerds like ffmpeg guys by the similar way (I mean your opening post), don't get too upset, usual "RTFM" will be a most decent word
Also, apps are created not by "we" or "let's make". The correct question should sounds like: "I created an ultimate youtube app, the sources are located at the https://github.com/blah-blah-blah. Anybody wanna get a try or join development?"...
People usually do what they are like to do; looks like everybody are happy with the youtube mobile site via Edge, as I am.
sensboston said:
He-he, I wish to live in your world but "I'm too old for this sh&t" (c)
Linux is a different kind of story; by the way, if you'll try to get help from a linux gurus or other kind of open source nerds like ffmpeg guys by the similar way (I mean your opening post), don't get too upset, usual "RTFM" will be a most decent word
Also, apps are created not by "we" or "let's make". The correct question should sounds like: "I created an ultimate youtube app, the sources are located at the https://github.com/blah-blah-blah. Anybody wanna get a try or join development?"...
People usually do what they are like to do; looks like everybody are happy with the youtube mobile site via Edge, as I am.
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Ok... apps can be created by others ways too. Thanks for your interest. There are always a million reasons not to do something...
Let's do nothing and watch this ship sink... it's the best thing do to.
Can you or anyone else tell me how to delete this pointless thread?