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http://www.petitiononline.com/xdadevs/petition.html
To: Microsoft
This Petition aims to show the support for xda-developers.com's archive of 'ROM Images'
The Undersigned wish to notify Microsoft Corp. of their strong feelings against the recent demands to remove the 'ROM Images'. We feel that they bring more publicity and support to the 'Windows Mobile' platform and device: without this we feel they would not be as popular as they are to this date.
Please think rationally Microsoft!
Sincerely,
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Have Microsoft been nagging xda-developers.com recently to stop with the cooking? Yet another thing that makes Android look more promising (are you listening, Microsoft?)
But that having been said, you gotta admit the policies here with respect to "warez" are borderline at best anyway. For example, I can't post a cab that would install voice command, but I can post a ROM that has it. I can't post a crack or a keygen for any number of apps, but I can post a ROM containing cracked copies...so well done that the end user doesn't even know he's running cracked software.
A lot of the time, we speak out of both sides of our mouths as a community here. I think some nagging and some C&D letters shouldn't surprise anyone.

omg. beartard is back!

Are they still harassing xda? I noticed this petition is from 1 1/2 years ago. I remember signing this last year, should I sign again? or does it only count once?

BOOOM
I will blow my dash up if they try to stop roms o and welcome back beartard

beartard said:
Have Microsoft been nagging xda-developers.com recently to stop with the cooking? Yet another thing that makes Android look more promising (are you listening, Microsoft?)
But that having been said, you gotta admit the policies here with respect to "warez" are borderline at best anyway. For example, I can't post a cab that would install voice command, but I can post a ROM that has it. I can't post a crack or a keygen for any number of apps, but I can post a ROM containing cracked copies...so well done that the end user doesn't even know he's running cracked software.
A lot of the time, we speak out of both sides of our mouths as a community here. I think some nagging and some C&D letters shouldn't surprise anyone.
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Well put man, after i read your post i decided to check out the price of some of the stuff on rom and stuff i have borrowed(cough) just for fun and it does cost a pretty penny for this stuff. I almost started feeling bad then i remembered wasting 50.00 on 2 programs that sucked, all better now lol. Either way the dash is becoming a thing of the past with all this fancy stuff coming out and we all have 6.1 anyways so if they took it away would it really matter? I have it downloaded on comp and on disk so im good to go haha

stats555 said:
Either way the dash is becoming a thing of the past with all this fancy stuff coming out and we all have 6.1 anyways so if they took it away would it really matter? I have it downloaded on comp and on disk so im good to go haha
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What about when you finally change to a new phone? I don't think your dash rom is going to work. This isn't just about the roms of now, but the roms of the future as well. just a thought

I Love Xda!

Very true Showaco!!

Just Dumb
With Symbian going Open Source you would think they would play nice with those loyal to the MS Mobile platform.

Portal site / redirect to malware scam

Twice this evening I hit "READ MORE>" links on the portal and the tabs that were opened had been redirected to a malware scam:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2338wlu

All ok here, never happened that

I have been redirected as well, just innocently clicking on articles on the main page. I sent an email to the webmaster just now with a complaint.
Got redirected to safyeom.in just like you with a scare malware scam. I really hope the webmaster/owners have nothing to do with this as it is quite disappointing.

Same problem here.

Now happened to me as well
In the portal whenever I want to click on any article it redirects me to a supposed malaware but nothing happens, after you click again and all ok
I´m sure Admins are aware of this and will be solved ASAP

Just happened to me also. Only, it keeps happening. Clicked on the article title link Boot Animations + Tutorial for Android a few times and happened each time.

Yeah, the blog is definitely infected. Redirects to malware when you click on any of the tags for the stories too.

Contacting the server Sys. Admin for XDA along with the site admins
EDIT: Talked to the portal admin and got a story on the front page to warn users, working on resolving this issue.

Sithis said:
I have been redirected as well, just innocently clicking on articles on the main page. I sent an email to the webmaster just now with a complaint.
Got redirected to safyeom.in just like you with a scare malware scam. I really hope the webmaster/owners have nothing to do with this as it is quite disappointing.
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This is a XSS (Cross Site Scripting) attack where an advertiser publishes on a site legitimately for a while then switches to a malicious site. not at the fault of the site owners... This has happened to other large sites like the new york times and such

yeah, happened to me a few times. funny too. i run ubuntu, and it was 'scanning my system' finding several windows viruses.
the websites picked up were with .in suffixes (india)
glad to hear that it's the site, though, and not something local

Yeah, I noticed this too. Glad its not my PC...but I'm not exactly happy XDA's taking a hit for the team.

Forums back up (obviously) the portal will stay down for a little time...

Captainkrtek said:
This is a XSS (Cross Site Scripting) attack where an advertiser publishes on a site legitimately for a while then switches to a malicious site. not at the fault of the site owners... This has happened to other large sites like the new york times and such
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That I am happy to hear. I figured they wouldn't resort to such low tactics. Glad to know it is being taken care of (although I'm sorry there was a problem to begin with).

Sithis said:
That I am happy to hear. I figured they wouldn't resort to such low tactics. Glad to know it is being taken care of (although I'm sorry there was a problem to begin with).
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Actually after further discussion it turns out to be a Wordpress Exploit of some sort... Still not their fault as WP isnt very secure, more updates coming soon..

Just wanted to thank yall for the tweet.

Now links working ok again

Captainkrtek said:
Actually after further discussion it turns out to be a Wordpress Exploit of some sort... Still not their fault as WP isnt very secure, more updates coming soon..
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What are the potential risk here? i got to the page and it tried to download something on my machine. I closed the windows asap and I am running a scan right now.

zenmasta said:
What are the potential risk here? i got to the page and it tried to download something on my machine. I closed the windows asap and I am running a scan right now.
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If you declined any download, then you should be OK. I'd suggest scanning with something in addition to your regular scanner, like Malware Bytes Antimalware (I only suggest it as it's free, and doesn't use a real-time monitor like other AV packages, so won't conflict with what you have installed already).

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Glad to know that I was not the only one.
Got worried that my machine was infected, went so far as to actually run a trace to verify that the malware was being launched from the website, haha

The first update is almost here!!

hello i'm an android user but i have great news for you. Microsoft released this kb article and this means that the first update for WP7 is almost here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2484484/en-us

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hello i'm an android user but i have great news for you. Microsoft released this kb article and this means that the first update for WP7 is almost here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2484484/en-us
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Old news, old... It was released some time ago...

yea it is a few days old, but thanks for sharing with us though and please keep us informed of anything more you may find. appreciate you taking the step to come and share with us, even if you aren't a windows phone user.

Yeah despite this being old, this is a big indication we could see the update between tomorrow and next week. I'm sure Microsoft wants to get the update out before or during MWC so they have something worthwhile to present there.
Also, I'm expecting details of that second update at the MIX 11 developers conference this year. After all, MS introduced WP7 at MWC and then went into more detail when MIX came around.

Perhaps 7th Feb
Ive read that the update will be out on the 7th Feb.

I wouldn't count on Feb. 7 date, it may happen but don't get your hopes up. This rumour reminds me of the MS CES tablet stuff that never really happened. The original blog that reported Feb. 7 didn't provide any proof did they?

mayfly007 said:
Ive read that the update will be out on the 7th Feb.
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AFAIK, this is correct, but it's predicted for the "week of the 7th" so it could be any time next week. Can confirm the update is with carriers around the world.

Can I ask a possibly dumb question? Why is everyone so pumped for an update?
It's just, I know it'll speed up apps loading, and add copy+paste, etc. But I mean, even without it, wp7 is such a smooth OS, I just don't know what the rush is in hoping for an "OMG UPDATEZZ!!!1!111". It's not like wp7 is broken right now, and only an update will make it useable. And honestly I've only needed to use copy/paste once, and even then it wasn't a big deal...

I suspect everyone will be quite disappointed by the update...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

sure haven't said:
Can I ask a possibly dumb question? Why is everyone so pumped for an update?
It's just, I know it'll speed up apps loading, and add copy+paste, etc. But I mean, even without it, wp7 is such a smooth OS, I just don't know what the rush is in hoping for an "OMG UPDATEZZ!!!1!111". It's not like wp7 is broken right now, and only an update will make it useable. And honestly I've only needed to use copy/paste once, and even then it wasn't a big deal...
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C & P alone is a big deal, but maybe it will fix other broken aspects of the OS like random hard-resets, messed up market, etc..

Credibility
landwomble said:
I suspect everyone will be quite disappointed by the update...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I suspect that none of the features/fixes in the update, by themselves or taken as a whole, will be a "big deal". For many of us, this is a test of Microsofts credibility and support for this OS. The real question is, are they going to become responsive to their user base and make serious attempts to keep current with their competition? Most of us are waiting to see how often they release updates and whether the contents of those updates are valuable to their user base. We won't know that for a few updates I am sure.

orangekid said:
messed up market, etc..
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You know what, yeah I can see that. The marketplace freezing is verrrrry annoying. Makes me feel like I'm on 6.5 again.
And this...
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random hard-resets
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...frightens me a little. Haven't heard of that before.

The real signal that the update is coming soon is when the Zune and Mac clients are updated to make backups. That's what I'm most looking forward to. Up until now there's no way to back up text messages, files, or app data and I have a lot of stuff on my phone I'd like to protect.

I use the Samsung Focus. I've never had any Market place issues with freeze ups, Ive certainly never had a random hard reset. I've only wished hard, around 4 times since 11/8/10 that I could copy and paste. I also haven't been able to view 90% of the embedded videos on the web sites Ive visited (Flash?). I want an update.. like 3 weeks ago like the big boys at MS said I would. I want to have enough faith in MS that come next upgrade I feel excited to update my hardware not my OS.

Same Experience
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I use the Samsung Focus. I've never had any Market place issues with freeze ups, Ive certainly never had a random hard reset. I've only wished hard, around 4 times since 11/8/10 that I could copy and paste. I also haven't been able to view 90% of the embedded videos on the web sites Ive visited (Flash?). I want an update.. like 3 weeks ago like the big boys at MS said I would. I want to have enough faith in MS that come next upgrade I feel excited to update my hardware not my OS.
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No lags, no issues with Marketplace, no resets, no freezes, two instances when copy and paste would have been nice, but countless need for Flash. Waiting to see what MS comes through with, and then the frequency of followup updates.

JamesAllen said:
No lags, no issues with Marketplace, no resets, no freezes, two instances when copy and paste would have been nice, but countless need for Flash. Waiting to see what MS comes through with, and then the frequency of followup updates.
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thats primarily up to Adobe.... and now that their development is outsourced to India I don't put too much faith in them...

z33dev33l said:
thats primarily up to Adobe.... and now that their development is outsourced to India I don't put too much faith in them...
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What's wrong with India?

vetvito said:
What's wrong with India?
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It's more the outsourcing period...

I need update. So many things missing.
Countless c&p lacks, flash..... Eeeeh, it's so annoying.
Marketplace works like crap sometimes - just hangs.
Also some apps are laggy.

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What's wrong with India?
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Nothing wrong with the country, but I've seen several references to how outsourcing to low-cost countries really doesn't lower the development cost...Here in Norway, it seems most of the outsourced projects gets scrapped because they never finish. Might be because it's hard to delegate to people almost on the other side of the world, might be differences in cultures etc etc.
I don't put too much trust in outsourcing at all...unless the management actually spend time with the team.

Here's another opportunity to rant!!

So microsoft releasing their second online survey on the experience or lack of it on windows phone 7
So rather than ranting here it would be better to send the feedback to MS directly
So heres the link
http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/480470/e01f3a84faf0

Sweet! Gave 'em a piece of me ol' mind.

MartyLK said:
Sweet! Gave 'em a piece of me ol' mind.
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Me too.
I'm fairly forgiving when it comes to Microsoft, but this takes the cake for sure. I urge everyone to rip'em a new one on this survey and I bet you we won't see a 90% plus satisfactory rating next time they release any numbers.

^ wanna make a bet on it

vetvito said:
^ wanna make a bet on it
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LOL
I actually don't think they would manufacture numbers. I am confident that the numbers they reported earlier were real. What will happen now is that they'll simply leave the satisfactory rating out of the press release

evolutionqy7 said:
So microsoft releasing their second online survey on the experience or lack of it on windows phone 7
So rather than ranting here it would be better to send the feedback to MS directly
So heres the link
http://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/480470/e01f3a84faf0
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You sure this a new one? The copyright date is 2010 and it has the same questions as the other one

bennyj71 said:
You sure this a new one? The copyright date is 2010 and it has the same questions as the other one
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Ah sure people discover new things over time. And it still contains what would you change and your favorite feature texts box
It has a few changes in it though

i personally don't even think this is an MS survey... wouldn't they use their own systems not some third party to take a survey?

The Gate Keeper said:
i personally don't even think this is an MS survey... wouldn't they use their own systems not some third party to take a survey?
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Nope, it's official. Been tweeted by various MSFT employes/teams for a while now. You should probably use this Uri though.

thanks for the link. Biggest gripe is the delays on the updates. When they announced wp7, they promised an aggressive update schedule that would get to all phones around the same time. Still no pre- nodo updates in the usa and apparently nodo has been finished by MS since december and still not released....
Other than that, I do love my phone, just give me the updates you have promised.
And how about updating IE separate of the OS so it doesn't get the carrier run around.

Is it survey from MS ?
If it from MS, here we go..

Did it......!

survey
I too, ragged about the updates.
I like the phone, but the updates need to come faster. Maybe that is what the ill-fated update to help the update process is supposed to be -- making things easier.
Let's hope so.
The real problem is these sites which incessantly get our hopes up because they want to one-up each other and get the "word" (which turns out to be poppycock) out and announce that they have learned (guessed, or completely fabricated is more like it) the actual update time. Then all us users hope its true and actually get pissed when it isn't.
They are all brainwashers! Believe none of them unless they refer to a Microsoft URL.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7!
-e

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I too, ragged about the updates.
I like the phone, but the updates need to come faster. Maybe that is what the ill-fated update to help the update process is supposed to be -- making things easier.
Let's hope so.
The real problem is these sites which incessantly get our hopes up because they want to one-up each other and get the "word" (which turns out to be poppycock) out and announce that they have learned (guessed, or completely fabricated is more like it) the actual update time. Then all us users hope its true and actually get pissed when it isn't.
They are all brainwashers! Believe none of them unless they refer to a Microsoft URL.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7!
-e
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Remember the infamous link to the Microsoft URL referring to the "january update"? It's all based on real information.

Audible app "slightly delayed"

I am not sure if anyone is interested but I got a response from Audible about their WP7 app. I dipped my toe into the WP7 waters (I have been an Android fanboy for a while) and I love it but I use Audible a lot. It is the only app that I used regularly on Android that has not been released.
For now, I stripped the drm off the files (shhhh) and used the ingenious "create a podcast" solution in the forum.
Hello Rich,
Thank you for contacting Audible.
I understand that you are inquiring about the release date of the Windows Phone App. I will be more than glad to answer your questions regarding this app.
At this moment, we don't have the release date available since it was slightly delayed due to a technical problem we had on the testing phase of this App. Our App is almost ready to be released; however, we are currently working on the final details to ensure you that we will provide you with a high quality product. When the application is complete, we will be announcing it on our website, newsletter, and social media channels.
Thanks for your interest in using Audible with Windows Phone. If you need any further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us.
Have a wonderful day.
Sincerely,
David A.
Audible Customer Support

"slightly delayed" is an Understatement
Thanks so much for posting this. I love my HTC HD7, except for lacking the audible app. I feel like I have been waiting forever. I got my phone on the day it was released in November 2010. I usually listen to my audible books on my Xoom Android tablet.

mcrosser said:
Thanks so much for posting this. I love my HTC HD7, except for lacking the audible app. I feel like I have been waiting forever. I got my phone on the day it was released in November 2010. I usually listen to my audible books on my Xoom Android tablet.
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I think that the app was demonstrated with the Nokia 900. I am not sure if it was released with the phone but I doubt it. Hopefully it will be released soon.

Available today on the Market Place

lqaddict said:
Available today on the Market Place
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I am not seeing it. Maybe it was released in different areas at different times? I don't see anything on the Audible website either.

richdaley said:
I am not seeing it. Maybe it was released in different areas at different times? I don't see anything on the Audible website either.
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It was just announced during the WP Summit

lqaddict said:
It was just announced during the WP Summit
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Ok, I see it now. It looks like it is going to be quite a bit more than just the audiobook app:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/microsoft-partners-with-audible-to-enhance-voice-recognition-in/
Later today = refresh...refresh...refresh...

lqaddict said:
It was just announced during the WP Summit
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So what happened? I still don't have it in the marketplace even though I have read at least two blogs that say it is now available. The blogs also mention that Draw Something should be available but it is not. It also is not mentioned on the Audible webiste.
I have been wondering if there is some sort of misunderstanding. The guy that presented it was also talking about the ability to control the app with the voice interface. I have been wondering if he meant that the tool will be available in the sdk later in the day. I did not hear the entire presentation.
I have to admit as an Android user, I keep thinking that maybe there is a cache somewhere that needs to be cleared or some sort restriction in the market.

Audible app is not in Indian marketplace yet. Dunno about other marketplaces.

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So what happened? I still don't have it in the marketplace even though I have read at least two blogs that say it is now available. The blogs also mention that Draw Something should be available but it is not. It also is not mentioned on the Audible webiste.
I have been wondering if there is some sort of misunderstanding. The guy that presented it was also talking about the ability to control the app with the voice interface. I have been wondering if he meant that the tool will be available in the sdk later in the day. I did not hear the entire presentation.
I have to admit as an Android user, I keep thinking that maybe there is a cache somewhere that needs to be cleared or some sort restriction in the market.
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Don't ask me, ask MSFT, they made an announcement.

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Don't ask me, ask MSFT, they made an announcement.
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But...but...their lack of releasing this when they said they were going to is totally f**king me! I can't believe they would do this!
The fact that I have a device that is about the size of a pack of smokes and connects me with the sum total of human knowledge and communicate with anybody in the world from virtually anywhere is not enough! If they don't release this soon, my life is totally screwed!!!
Oh...sorry...I have been reading too many of the other threads in this forum.
Back to being patient...

Here it is in the marketplace:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/bdc813dd-c20b-41f8-8646-de72fa0b365d
It is odd because it doesn't show up in search. I found a direct link on a blog.

Hmmm,
Your right, it doesn't show up with search, so I followed the link, and it tells me it's not available in my (UK) marketplace
Garrickus

Though it still doesn't come up in search, the link works here in Indian market. Can be installed too. Installed too and it works. Didn't test any audio-book because none was free.

Garrickus said:
Hmmm,
Your right, it doesn't show up with search, so I followed the link, and it tells me it's not available in my (UK) marketplace
Garrickus
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Should be coming soon to the UK
From the Windows Phone blog comments (by MS employee):
This is not a US-only app. There was a bug that happened only in the UK and 4 other countries (I don't have the list handy at the moment but wanted to respond to this without waiting), it was resubmitted last night with a fix for it, so it should show up soon.
June 22, 2012

App is now available in the UK
http://windowsphone.com/s?appid=bdc813dd-c20b-41f8-8646-de72fa0b365d