How come certain apps won't goto sd card? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I can goto manage apps and move certain apps to the sd card. But other ones I cannot... Any idea why?

mroneeyedboh said:
I can goto manage apps and move certain apps to the sd card. But other ones I cannot... Any idea why?
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the developer hasnt enabled or is choosing not to enable the froyo app2sd for that application

XmentalX said:
the developer hasnt enabled or is choosing not to enable the froyo app2sd for that application
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This. There are usually two reasons for an app not allowing you to move it to the SD card: 1.) The developer is lazy or 2.) The app has a widget. Google recommends not allowing apps with widgets to move to the SD card as doing so will cause the widget to be removed as soon as USB storage is enabled. Technically copy protected apps can't be moved either but developers should be using the licensing service instead of the weak copy protection option now anyway.

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[Q] HTC EVO Internal Space Full.

Hi guys I've been messing around with my phone all day. I have been restoring my apps back onto my phone and all that good stuff. I finally fixed my phone and when I was restoring my phone it tells me that my internal space is getting full. How is that possible if I only have 2 apps from the market installed? Any ideas?
thanks!
try clearing cache of your apps. If you have root access, download cachemate and use that. you can also move apps to your SD card to free internal space.
hope this helps
edit: you can also try wiping your phone back to stock if you continue with these issues
Weird I uninstaled Google maps update and and I now have 45MB of internal storage. lol??
Im restoring my apps then going to move them to my SD. Whats a good program to move them?
actually now it's giving me the error again..lol 45mb storage left too. weird
steveojp said:
Im restoring my apps then going to move them to my SD. Whats a good program to move them?
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If you are using a custom ROM and it supports it then apps2sd because you can actually go beyond the 512 MB limit, you can make it as large as your entire SD card if you like... of course it has a trade off: the card must be repartitioned before you can use apps2sd meaning that you need to copy your card over a computer, partition and then copy back your stuff.
I use and would recommend that you use froyo to move apps to SD card. You can also move apps from the SD card back to your internal memory.
You can move most apps to SD Card; but some apps you do not have the option to move to SD card, and must remain on internal phone storage.
Follow these simple steps to move / to know whether the app can be moved or not.
1. Open Settings -> Applications ->Manage Applications and tap on the app you want to move.
2. Tap on the box “Move to SD card”.
3. Now tap on “On SD Card” to know whether your app has been moved or not.
You can also move back the app to phone memory by tapping on application and then selecting “Move to Phone” option.
weaselp1 said:
I use and would recommend that you use froyo to move apps to SD card. You can also move apps from the SD card back to your internal memory.
You can move most apps to SD Card; but some apps you do not have the option to move to SD card, and must remain on internal phone storage.
Follow these simple steps to move / to know whether the app can be moved or not.
1. Open Settings -> Applications ->Manage Applications and tap on the app you want to move.
2. Tap on the box “Move to SD card”.
3. Now tap on “On SD Card” to know whether your app has been moved or not.
You can also move back the app to phone memory by tapping on application and then selecting “Move to Phone” option.
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The thing is..I only have 2 apps installed from the market and it's saying my internal memory is full. That just doesn't make sense.
Sprints stock ROM will give you a low storage warning when you have less than 45MB free space which I think is a little high. Thank god for apps2sd.
do you use the stock HTC mail app? if you do, try this: when you delete mail in the stock HTC mail app, it doesn't delete it, but just moves it to the 'Trash' folder? I've just cleared 6Mb that accumulated of the last month or so myself...
if all else fails, you might have to factory reset the evo.
thanks for all the help. so i needed up booting in recovery and clearing everything now it went to like 300mb and im restoring my apps. do you think i should put them on my SD card?
I would put what you can on your sd card...you can always move them back to the phone if needed
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curious to know what caused that low memory problem in the first place? that's just weird.
i am not sure what causes the memory leak; but others i know with evos have had the same issue and a factory reset has solved the issue every time. good luck!

[Q] apps to sd how and why?

I have a question how do I install apps to SD card?
Why should I do it and what apps?
Are you rooted? I'm pretty sure that you can only move apps to the SD card if your rooted. And it's called Apps2Ext or something like that, you can only use it if your rooted(from what I know atleast.)
Easy.
There is an app in the market called "App 2 sd",this app automatically selects the apps that you can move from the phone over to your sd card. As for why you would want to do this well, for one thing and mainly by doing so you free up valuable space on the phone it self.Do your self a favor & pick up @least a 16gb sd card it makes life a whole lot easier. Hope this helps.
Utorrent76 said:
There is an app in the market called "App 2 sd",this app automatically selects the apps that you can move from the phone over to your sd card. As for why you would want to do this well, for one thing and mainly by doing so you free up valuable space on the phone it self.Do your self a favor & pick up @least a 16gb sd card it makes life a whole lot easier. Hope this helps.
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I was going to say that but isn't that just for rooted phones? Or is Apps2Ext only for rooted phones?
Your G2 has Froyo, which allows apps to sd without being rooted. If the app developer allows it, you can move the apps you choose to the fat32 partition of your sd card.
All you have to do is go to settings>>>applications>>>manage applications>>>click on the app of your choosing, then you will get the option to "Move to SD card"
Once you click on that, it will automatically be moved to the SD card. To confirm, in the manage applications page, you will see "On SD card" on the top right corner. Click on it, and you will see which apps have been moved.
Apps to SD is used basically just to save space. On older phones, like the G1, you could only install about 30 apps before the phone memory started to get full. They made apps2ext to fix this low memory problem once you had a rooted phone. Froyo fixes the need to even root the phone to get apps on the sd card.
Honestly, the G2 has plenty of space for me that I do not need apps to sd. I really only see the need for anyone to utilize this on the vision phones if you plan on having hundreds of apps installed.
Hope this helped.
it is helps a lot thank you. I thought the reason to tho apps to memory card list to make phone run faster
It actually runs slower to have the apps on the sd card. That was the one downfall of apps2ext on the G1, especially when you ran sense roms because a lot of things were run on the ext parition and were dependent on running from the sd card for it to work.
It is better to run them all on the phone memory, if at all possible, IMHO.
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tazz9690 said:
Your G2 has Froyo, which allows apps to sd without being rooted. If the app developer allows it, you can move the apps you choose to the fat32 partition of your sd card.
All you have to do is go to settings>>>applications>>>manage applications>>>click on the app of your choosing, then you will get the option to "Move to SD card"
Once you click on that, it will automatically be moved to the SD card. To confirm, in the manage applications page, you will see "On SD card" on the top right corner. Click on it, and you will see which apps have been moved.
Apps to SD is used basically just to save space. On older phones, like the G1, you could only install about 30 apps before the phone memory started to get full. They made apps2ext to fix this low memory problem once you had a rooted phone. Froyo fixes the need to even root the phone to get apps on the sd card.
Honestly, the G2 has plenty of space for me that I do not need apps to sd. I really only see the need for anyone to utilize this on the vision phones if you plan on having hundreds of apps installed.
Hope this helped.
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This is a BS version of A2SD. /.android-secure won't let you back your apps up the way /system/sd/app and /system/sd/app-private will, and the apps on the FAT32 partition won't start up on boot.
I hope the real A2SD is incorporated on Gingerbread builds.

APPS to SD

i dont know whether any of you have noticed or not...that we can force any application to move onto sd card.........
use titanium backup to move any application to sd card
long press the application in TI BACKUP and then select move to sd card
Well there are plenty of apps that can made this. I personally use ZDtoolbox.
I think ZDtoolbox only move those applications that supports movement to sd card.......but with my way,you can even move those application that does not support movement to sd...........
i use titanium to move apps to sd..especially the games that some are big
abhisheak.bansal said:
I think ZDtoolbox only move those applications that supports movement to sd card.......but with my way,you can even move those application that does not support movement to sd...........
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Yes, but not all will work correctly if moved to SD...
but many of them works............and even if they dont u can move them back to phone memory

[Q] Set Default Storage

Looking for a way to set folders to install to EXTERNAL SD card (Not the actual apps). Not like apps2SD...just the folders the apps create for settings and such.
You can specify what location/folder to store pictures taken with the camara too, be it internal or external SD.
This is a setting in the camara app...but most apps dont provide an option like this.
Example:>
We have System, Internal, and if you install External micro SD.
You install Titanium Backup, or other apps that can back up stuff and their own settings, i.e. backup GO launcher settings. When you make your Titanium Backup(s) it creates a folder on INTERNAL storage. Now in the event that something (un-thinkable ) happens to your phone like dropping in water or ran over by MACK truck etc...(you get the point) you can't get it to power on you wont be able to get to any of your files on internal SD. Hopefully your External micro SD would survive and you could take it out, in one of the above examples.
So...that's why I ask if this can be done to bypass the INTERNAL SD in a way. I would actually use the internal for music and movies and put files that I want to make sure stay safe on the EXTERNAL SD. Most of us transfer mp3's and movies etc...from computer so we have copies.
Yeah one could just backup the INTERNAL SD from time to time. But we all know how sometimes this is overlooked.
Not sure if it's something about the way Samsung partitoned the storage or in EEPROM settings or something. On cyanogen mod roms though it had a setting that allowed for this. Phones with less internal storage like HD2 stored the apps on internal and their created folders to external card if one is installed, makes me lean towards the sofware.
P.S. if just move those folders to the External SD the apps dont look their for them.
Thanks for all feedback!
the 2 way i'm familiar with
CM7, has a build in option to do that
you could probably download CM7 source code and dissect that
Link2SD, can do exactly what you want, which is why i always use it to install my apps directly to my External SD card
AllGamer said:
the 2 way i'm familiar with
CM7, has a build in option to do that
you could probably download CM7 source code and dissect that
Link2SD, can do exactly what you want, which is why i always use it to install my apps directly to my External SD card
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I wish I could DEV but um more of a tester ! I downloaded some kitchens before but just couldn't get anything going so gave up. Guess I know my place. HAHA
Link2SD sounds like it may work I have to try it. It gives plenty of options!
Thanks
Well on titanium backup you can change itnto backup to the sd instead, just click menu> preferences> backup folder location. At first its set to mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup, you got to press back and select external sd card and titaniumbackup, or if your sd card already has a titanium folder, just select "detect" and it will find the folder on the ext sdcard
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but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
elflip88 said:
Well on titanium backup you can change itnto backup to the sd instead, just click menu> preferences> backup folder location. At first its set to mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup, you got to press back and select external sd card and titaniumbackup, or if your sd card already has a titanium folder, just select "detect" and it will find the folder on the ext sdcard
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Wow thanks...I knew you could change the location, but that's new to me the DETECT feature that's cool.
AllGamer said:
but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Yeah my point...Getting them to the SD is no problem its the apps wont look their unless they have the option to change default location like above mentioned titanium settings.
Side note: seen the post from Cyanogenmod about CM7 being "in progress" the option is there to set default under applications so all shall be fine soon for this anyway.
AllGamer said:
but when you do it that way some apps does not work properly, those that are not SD card compatible
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Were you talking about my post? If so then all the apps do work properly, its just moving the backups you make on titanium to the sd card, not the app itself
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i'm not talking about backups, i'm talking about Apps that are moved forcefully to run from SD, you can do that using TI
but some Apps behaves erratically after that, only SD compatible Apps are unaffected

[Q] What can be moved to SD in CM 7.1?

I have an application called "Copilot GPS" that uses 15 MB in data/data
Upon close consideration most of that is a single file - libcopilot.so
It is located in /data/data/com.alk.copilot/mapviewer/files folder
In "Manage Applications" "Move to SD card" is enabled for this app.
If I move it to SD - will the libcopilot.so be moved? The reason I am asking is that this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Apps2SD
says:
Not all of the application's data is actually moved to the SD card; the dex files, private data directories, and native shared libraries remain in internal storage.
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As far as I know .SO files are libraries
If I move it to SD and app doesn't work - can I reverse "Move to SD card' process? I also own full version of Titanium backup, so I can take a backup as well. I never mover any apps to SD before.
JoeSchmoe007 said:
I have an application called "Copilot GPS" that uses 15 MB in data/data
Upon close consideration most of that is a single file - libcopilot.so
It is located in /data/data/com.alk.copilot/mapviewer/files folder
In "Manage Applications" "Move to SD card" is enabled for this app.
If I move it to SD - will the libcopilot.so be moved? The reason I am asking is that this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Apps2SD
says:
As far as I know .SO files are libraries
If I move it to SD and app doesn't work - can I reverse "Move to SD card' process? I also own full version of Titanium backup, so I can take a backup as well. I never mover any apps to SD before.
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If you move the app to the SD card then you can always move it back to the phone if it doesn't work anymore. However, developers usually denote whether the app can be moved from internal storage to the SD without causing a problem to the functionality of the app and if not then the option won't show up on your phone. Newer versions of android have made apps like "app 2 SD pro" obsolete by adding the feature you are referring to with the check boxes to denote whether the app can be moved but even on stock version 2.2 you can go to app details and move the app manually. Most apps can exist on the SD card without causing problems with functionality anyway, most of them that are marked for not being able to be moved are ones that are either system apps or third party versions of system apps where your phone could lose overall functionality if your SD were to be removed or go defunct. I hope this helps!
Moving the app as you describe will not move the lib file to the sd card. It will only move the .apk from /data. You need to use an app like link2sd to move the data files and libs to the sd card.

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