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OK guys, I just want some clear answers on this. I've done a bit of forum searching but not entirely sure.
As I understand it, I can:
1: Unlock a branded vodafone UK phone with HTCdev.com
2: In doing this, it will 'delete' the CID.
3: Download the most recent stock unbranded OTA file from the forums.
4: Run the OTA instructions through computer installation.
Note: This should work as the CID is deleted?
5: Once this is done, I have suddenly have a stock official rom?
6: What would now happen when the next official OTA is due?
7: What rom would boot if I then did a full factory reset?
8: Because I did all of this with S ON, I can't go back to voda crapware so my warranty is basically void?
If any of you could give me clarity on the questions and above points, that would be awesome.
You can't bebranded without Super CID - having no CID means no update will run
OTA updates have the pre-requisite version in the name, e.g.
OTA_ENDEAVOR_U_ICS_40_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.9-1.26.401.2_release_256505w0tk6eiq8g74y4vb.zip
This means you HAVE to be on 1.26.401.2 to update to 1.28.401.9
To debrand you need to flash an unbranded RUU, which you cannot do at this time. All you can do is flash a 'stock' custom ROM
In that case, are there any stock 'custom' roms out there that can:
1: be reverted back to bloatware stock rom for warranty purposes
2: if and when official stock OTA are available, they can be downloaded and installed on top of the stock custom rom?
EmperorK said:
In that case, are there any stock 'custom' roms out there that can:
1: be reverted back to bloatware stock rom for warranty purposes
2: if and when official stock OTA are available, they can be downloaded and installed on top of the stock custom rom?
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The closest custom ROM to stock is the Android Revolution HD ROMs. If you do a nandroid backup as soon as you flash the custom recovery you can easily go back to stock by restoring your backup and flashing the stock recovery and then re-locking the phone.
How do I do a nandroid backup? I take it the backup is stored on my computer or something?
When you say custom recovery, do you mean the custom rom?
And lastly, when official OTA updates are released and the maker of arhd is kind enough to implement the changes into their rom, can this be installed as an update or does it require wiping the phone and installing a new arhd rom all over again?
Ps guys, thanks for all the help so far. I'm slowly starting to understand...
EmperorK said:
How do I do a nandroid backup? I take it the backup is stored on my computer or something?
When you say custom recovery, do you mean the custom rom?
And lastly, when official OTA updates are released and the maker of arhd is kind enough to implement the changes into their rom, can this be installed as an update or does it require wiping the phone and installing a new arhd rom all over again?
Ps guys, thanks for all the help so far. I'm slowly starting to understand...
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A nandroid backup is the backup you make when you root your phone and flash a custom recovery on it.
A custom recovery is not a custom ROM. A custom recovery is like a ms dos program for your phone. It is used to flash a custom ROM or backup your ROM (nandroid backup)
The latest ARHD ROM is based on the latest 1.28.401 base so all the updates and tweaks on the 1.28.401 is already there but optimized more.
EmperorK said:
How do I do a nandroid backup? I take it the backup is stored on my computer or something?
When you say custom recovery, do you mean the custom rom?
And lastly, when official OTA updates are released and the maker of arhd is kind enough to implement the changes into their rom, can this be installed as an update or does it require wiping the phone and installing a new arhd rom all over again?
Ps guys, thanks for all the help so far. I'm slowly starting to understand...
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Nandroid backup: A backup taken from ClockworkMod recovery using the UI on the phone. The backup is saved on the sdcard. It's good practice to keep a backup of it on the computer as well.
Custom recovery: The recovery is not the same as the "ROM". The recovery is a small partition on the device that you can boot into. From the recovery you can make changes to the main system, "ROM".
Updates: When updates are issued you should never use the OTA update. It may cause alot of problems. ROM builders/chefs are usually very quick to fetch an OTA update and implement it in their ROM so one usually ends up with the update quicker then if one would have waited for the OTA. When installing a smaller update, a wipe is often not required. It is always recommended to take new nandroid backups before installing updates though in case something goes wrong.
Stock ROM is here
Does it matter if I upgrade to the new baseband before or after installing Cyanogenmod?
steventrannn said:
Does it matter if I upgrade to the new baseband before or after installing Cyanogenmod?
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it doesn't matter. the upgrade will revert your ROM to stock & locked either way. You'll need to use the jcase_rootme zip file to get root back after you upgrade to the new baseband. Should be able to find it on here or on android central. I can't remember but I think both forums have links to it.
You want to do it before. The update will revert you back to total stock. Then you need to root and install a custom recovery again. To update to the ZV9 Go here: http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-all-things-root/563443-guide-how-flash-zv9-update-step-step.html
To Root and install a custom recovery in one fell swoop, go here: http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-all-things-root/531810-rooting.html
Don't forget to make a backup of your system in the custom recovery before you try your hand at installing a custom ROM.
Wrong section. You should ask in Q&A
AndyOpie150 said:
You want to do it before. The update will revert you back to total stock. Then you need to root and install a custom recovery again. To update to the ZV9 Go here: http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-all-things-root/563443-guide-how-flash-zv9-update-step-step.html
To Root and install a custom recovery in one fell swoop, go here: http://androidforums.com/optimus-v-all-things-root/531810-rooting.html
Don't forget to make a backup of your system in the custom recovery before you try your hand at installing a custom ROM.
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Man, THANK YOU, love the oneClick option...finally out of Z9 HELL.
Sorry for the of topic.
Is there a difference between the 3, or a reason to updating the baseband?
Okay basically, when I got my phone I used the toolkit to root my phone, busybox, and CWR on the phone. Now I flashed like so many different roms, I want to go back to stock, I realize how important to have a stable OS then a buggy one. How can I do this, do I need Odin? if so would this void any warranty?
I hear if you use Odin, then the device will always show that I voided the warranty. is this true?
Thanks
rayoubi said:
Okay basically, when I got my phone I used the toolkit to root my phone, busybox, and CWR on the phone. Now I flashed like so many different roms, I want to go back to stock, I realize how important to have a stable OS then a buggy one. How can I do this, do I need Odin? if so would this void any warranty?
I hear if you use Odin, then the device will always show that I voided the warranty. is this true?
Thanks
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Check this post out. It should help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1725839
rayoubi said:
Okay basically, when I got my phone I used the toolkit to root my phone, busybox, and CWR on the phone. Now I flashed like so many different roms, I want to go back to stock, I realize how important to have a stable OS then a buggy one. How can I do this, do I need Odin? if so would this void any warranty?
I hear if you use Odin, then the device will always show that I voided the warranty. is this true?
Thanks
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If you want to go back to stock and keep root access, then follow this guide to the letter (skip the custom recovery part if you want to)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
If you want to go back to stock without root, do the same thing, but use the applicable image from http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SGH-I747M instead. TLS is Telus, RWC is Rogers and BMC is Bell. None of these will void warranty because they are stock images. I've done this, using the rooted images, to make a backup that I forgot to make when I first flashed a custom rom and It didn't trip my flash counter. Flashing stock images, as I understand, is pretty much like doing an official update, so it won't trip your flash counter or anything like that and your warranty will be intact. Hope this helps!
majingrim said:
If you want to go back to stock and keep root access, then follow this guide to the letter (skip the custom recovery part if you want to)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
If you want to go back to stock without root, do the same thing, but use the applicable image from http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SGH-I747M instead. TLS is Telus, RWC is Rogers and BMC is Bell. None of these will void warranty because they are stock images. I've done this, using the rooted images, to make a backup that I forgot to make when I first flashed a custom rom and It didn't trip my flash counter. Flashing stock images, as I understand, is pretty much like doing an official update, so it won't trip your flash counter or anything like that and your warranty will be intact. Hope this helps!
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You gave me some good info. I flashed my phone with odin using a stock image. However, I rooted my phone and it told me to use a insecure image. So to be rooted you cant use the offical stock rom? is this correct?
rayoubi said:
You gave me some good info. I flashed my phone with odin using a stock image. However, I rooted my phone and it told me to use a insecure image. So to be rooted you cant use the offical stock rom? is this correct?
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Even if you load your default stock provider ROM with Odin, you can still re-flash recovery and then flash SuperSU or Superuser (whatever app you prefer) and it will show your on a custom binary, but your OS is still stock + root. It won't affect the operation of the stock rom to my knowledge. Anytime I ever run into an issue, I just take my Telus Stock tarball and flash it with Odin, then I'm completely stock, including the bootloader and recovery app. Once I'm ready to start loading ROMs again, just flash the CWM recovery, it goes to custom, but your free to do whatever.
baldockdrew3 said:
Even if you load your default stock provider ROM with Odin, you can still re-flash recovery and then flash SuperSU or Superuser (whatever app you prefer) and it will show your on a custom binary, but your OS is still stock + root. It won't affect the operation of the stock rom to my knowledge. Anytime I ever run into an issue, I just take my Telus Stock tarball and flash it with Odin, then I'm completely stock, including the bootloader and recovery app. Once I'm ready to start loading ROMs again, just flash the CWM recovery, it goes to custom, but your free to do whatever.
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I was using the toolkit and it made me choose an insecure rom to give me root, busybox, and CWR. if I can just get the stock rom that came with my provider and have it rooted, I rather do that. I mean its not a big deal I guess if im using insecure rom, but I want to know why its called insecure rom. I want to know if there is a difference.
rayoubi said:
I was using the toolkit and it made me choose an insecure rom to give me root, busybox, and CWR. if I can just get the stock rom that came with my provider and have it rooted, I rather do that. I mean its not a big deal I guess if im using insecure rom, but I want to know why its called insecure rom. I want to know if there is a difference.
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As I understand it, an insecure rom simply means it can grant root access. So if your rom is not insecure, and an application asks for superuser (root) access, it won't be able to get it. If you're insecure, and you have an app to manage superuser access (Superuser, SuperSU) then it can be allowed/granted as you like. As someone else said, if you're using the rooted rom, and you have an issue that you think might need warranty work, simply flash your unrooted stock rom and bring it in. The only problem would be if you had a problem that prevented you from flashing, but even then, if it was that bad, it's probably beyond warranty issues anyway. Again, hope this helps out, cheers.
hi ,i have TWRP , i unrooted my phone, how can i root it again , my USB port is not working .. Is there a file just to load to SD card and proceed from there?
If you already have TWRP, then all you need is to flash a superuser or supersu zip file through the recovery, and you are rooted. All you need to do is put it on your SD card.
shortydoggg said:
If you already have TWRP, then all you need is to flash a superuser or supersu zip file through the recovery, and you are rooted. All you need to do is put it on your SD card.
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thanks a bunch that was helpful , now i am able to use triangle away...
im now trying to do a full stock firmware and wipe , since the counter has been reset , my USB does not work , so how would i go about doing this, i have a STOCK GS3 on hand as well, can i back that one up and use it to FLASH the Modified GS3? if so , how can i do it ? the new GS3 is accessible with USB .
Regards
XtratoX said:
thanks a bunch that was helpful , now i am able to use triangle away...
im now trying to do a full stock firmware and wipe , since the counter has been reset , my USB does not work , so how would i go about doing this, i have a STOCK GS3 on hand as well, can i back that one up and use it to FLASH the Modified GS3? if so , how can i do it ? the new GS3 is accessible with USB .
Regards
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Are you trying to put the stock S3 on the rooted S3, or vice versa?
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Are you trying to put the stock S3 on the rooted S3, or vice versa?
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im trying to set my rooted phone ( the one with TWRP and no USB working port) back to STOCK so i can send back to Warranty Department
You could purchase mobile odin pro from the play store and try to flash the stock ROM through it.
shortydoggg said:
You could purchase mobile odin pro from the play store and try to flash the stock ROM through it.
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i will try that , so how do i back up my STOCK GS3 ROM ?
XtratoX said:
i will try that , so how do i back up my STOCK GS3 ROM ?
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You cannot completely backup a stock GS3 without root. The most you can do is backup your app installs (not settings), your text messages, contacts, and a few other things. You could us MyBackup for that, but system and app settings, as well as backing up the entire ROM requires root.
EDIT: Sorry, doing too many things at once, to backup your ROM, you would have to flash a custom Recovery through Odin (not mobile Odin), and then do a backup through that Recovery.
If you're looking to put the stock ROM back your rooted phone, there is no need to root a stock phone that isnt rooted, back up the stock ROM to flash it over to the phone you're trying to send in...
Download the stock ROM from XDA and flash it back onto the rooted phone making sure you check to make sure you didnt trip the ROM counter.
Check the DEV section for the stock ROMs. They are in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
That appears to be the stock ROM link you may be looking for
DustinD1986 said:
If you're looking to put the stock ROM back your rooted phone, there is no need to root a stock phone that isnt rooted, back up the stock ROM to flash it over to the phone you're trying to send in...
Download the stock ROM from XDA and flash it back onto the rooted phone making sure you check to make sure you didnt trip the ROM counter.
Check the DEV section for the stock ROMs. They are in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
That appears to be the stock ROM link you may be looking for
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Yep thanks a bunch , i was able to connect , the phone to ODIN , thankfully.. now i used triangle away, it reset the counters, but my device still says modified, any guides you guys know of to remove that?
Thanks
Factory Reset it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium
shortydoggg said:
Factory Reset it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium
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awesome guys! , i managed to set everything back to stock! all counters and modified system are back to normal , now i can send it back to warranty!!!
Thanks again for all of your help guys!
Time to root and flash the new GS3!!!
No problem.
Hello guys
I cant install cwm recovery on my e980 using the freegee app. Can anyone help me with that issue
See the attached files
laith1234 said:
Hello guys
I cant install cwm recovery on my e980 using the freegee app. Can anyone help me with that issue
See the attached files
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Two options:
1) flash back to stock 4.1.2, root and install cwm via freegee
2) install gpro_recovery.apk from forums, flash recovery from there, update that dinosaur (I think it's 6.0.4.4) to something newer (Philz, which is slightly newer or latest TWRP available) and profit.
Thanks again shadi
But u mean to flash the gpro recovery using odin? (The old familiar way)?
Odin is for Samsung devices Which option confuses you?
I cant access the recovery mode so how can i flash the gprorecovery?
You download an APK called GPRO recovery, install it, and flash from there. After that, update recovery and enjoy.
To be honest with you, better option is to return back to Jellybean and start from there, possible less problems (wakelocks, deep sleep, battery drains etc.)
I did what ShadySquirrel said myself, It took a lot of looking and reading. Used the LG flash tool to go back to 4.1.2 then used I believe easy universal root where you connect the phone to the pc with charge only chosen under pc connections, then on the pc you run the bat file and it tells you what to do and roots the phone, checked root with a root checker app then used FreeGee to install cwm and twrp. So far so good. Good luck like I said it took a lot of reading.
Many thanks again for both of you...
ShadySquirrel said:
You download an APK called GPRO recovery, install it, and flash from there. After that, update recovery and enjoy.
To be honest with you, better option is to return back to Jellybean and start from there, possible less problems (wakelocks, deep sleep, battery drains etc.)
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shady i have an inquiry, do you recommend to go back to jellybean and then update the phone through the air? OTA update? or you mean to go back to JB and then start rooting and installing recovery?
as i understood from what you recommend is to go back to JB and then root and install recovery, but you mean to stay on JB??? and if not what i will get from returning back to JB, root and install recovery as im going to upgrade again to KK?
laith1234 said:
shady i have an inquiry, do you recommend to go back to jellybean and then update the phone through the air? OTA update? or you mean to go back to JB and then start rooting and installing recovery?
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laith1234 said:
as i understood from what you recommend is to go back to JB and then root and install recovery, but you mean to stay on JB??? and if not what i will get from returning back to JB, root and install recovery as im going to upgrade again to KK?
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Depending on what you plan to do.
If you want to use any non-stock based ROM out there (CM, Bliss, Slim etc.) it's better to return back to stock 4.1.2, root, flash recovery (Freegee + new TWRP after that) and start flashing. This way, you have great chances to avoid random wakelocks, problems etc. , which are typical for moving from stock 4.4.2 to any other ROM.
If you want to keep using stock ROM, well, you're in a problem because freegee doesn't support Kitkat, so you'll have to root, install GPRO_recovery.apk, flash it's recovery and then try flashing recovery from freegee or try flashing new twrp. If you want to stay on stock 4.1.2, then it's the previous cycle (root, Freegee, twrp update) and that's it.
If you decide to use stock roms, DON'T install OTAs, you'll get a soft brick because of custom recovery.
ShadySquirrel said:
Depending on what you plan to do.
If you want to use any non-stock based ROM out there (CM, Bliss, Slim etc.) it's better to return back to stock 4.1.2, root, flash recovery (Freegee + new TWRP after that) and start flashing. This way, you have great chances to avoid random wakelocks, problems etc. , which are typical for moving from stock 4.4.2 to any other ROM.
If you want to keep using stock ROM, well, you're in a problem because freegee doesn't support Kitkat, so you'll have to root, install GPRO_recovery.apk, flash it's recovery and then try flashing recovery from freegee or try flashing new twrp. If you want to stay on stock 4.1.2, then it's the previous cycle (root, Freegee, twrp update) and that's it.
If you decide to use stock roms, DON'T install OTAs, you'll get a soft brick because of custom recovery.
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many many thanks for this explanation, but i decided to stay in stock KK, so i maybe in a little problem, so i will stay in KK and root my device without installing the recovery, then i will be OK
Many thanks again,,,,