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There are a couple of threads on this out there, but I wanted to make a Poll.
So, right now I'm using my old HTC Hero with CM 6.1, and I love it. Rooting my phone made me fall in love with my smartphone all over again (it's my first smartphone).
So for those of you Sprint people, they told me that I can upgrade right now or when my contract is up, it won't matter: I will get the Evo for $200 with a new contract.
Before we dive in, do you know if this is really the cheapest option from Sprint? I am aware I could probably just buy an Evo from Ebay or something of the sort, but I'm a bit worried about doing that. Anyone has experience getting Evo somewhere else and can share?
I use my phone for a lot of things.. internet, calling, texting, games, even as a flashlight sometimes. I got myself an extra battery for this phone but I assume I will need a new one for the EVO. I see people asked about battery life, but seriously, I don't expect my phone to stay alive for more than 8 hours or so with all these apps running.
Next, what I like about the EVO is the better camera, and the fact that it has flash (I use my phone for pictures). Front facing camera is nice, haven't used it before, is it really worth it? Is chatting with it smooth, or is it slow as sh*t?
Keyboard - I used to hate the touch keyboard because it would freeze for split seconds and writing something would be frustrating. I still find it annoying to use the touch screen for typing because the buttons are so small. I have a feeling the evo would help with that, but perhaps I should wait for something with a real keyboard? Anyone knows of a good model that's suppose to come out, and when?
4G - I live in New York city. Anyone from around here knows if 4G is really available, or it just exists in very specific locations? Is it much faster? How do you like the fact that you can maintain data connection while making a call, is it a big deal? I don't barely actually use my phone for talking. I count on Gchat and texting.
Speed - There are speed issues with my phone right, especially when I run intense apps (angry birds is very choppy, for example, and Pandora can hang the entire system up), does the Evo take care of that?
Size - It's a big phone. To be honest, the weight and the size do not attract me, but I do realize that a bigger screen will be better to work with and might aid with the keyboard issue. Thoughts?
Rooting - How hard is it? I think CM runs on the EVO if memory serves right. I Rooted my Hero so I assume doing it to the EVO would not be much harder. Thoughts?
So yeah, these are some points I'm considering. Should I get it? And is there a cheaper (good!) way to get it?
Thanks for reading!
you posted in evo forum, expect biased answers, that said
you will love an evo! I had a hero first, still do. the batteries are the same,
the keyboard on the hero wasn't very accurate so typing was frustrating, on the evo it is splendid,
rooting is a breeze with unrevoked
no slowdowns at all for any apps, in any situation, I've been downloading while streaming pandora and playing games with no issue,
I highly recommend it, the evo changed the way I think of smartphones
I would wait to the end of march and see what sprint announces
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I would wait as well. Some new phones should be coming out shortly
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I doubt an Evo 2 will come out anytime soon. So yes. The new phone coming out is most likely the HTC Arrive, which is the HTC 7 Pro. That aside, the Evo is just f*cking awesome. Also for individual line upgrade, Amazon says $180 with free 2-day shipping: http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B003N9B3CY
CTIA is soon. Sprint announces new phones at CTIA. So I would wait. Unless you want to buy one off contract on Ebay.
WAIT for something better.. This bad ass brick will soon be replaced and become just a plain old acme brick soon
I have a bad feeling Sprint isn't gonna have much this year as far as Android devices go... we will see. An Evo 2 would be bad ass or a dual core Samsung.
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I don't care if Samsung comes out with a quad-core phone. I'm not touching that **** after what happened with the Galaxy S line.
they better come out with something that will at least compete with others phones (like the droid x::evo) otherwise they will have many unhappy customers who cancel and leave... hell they charge $10 for a premium phone now, how premium will the HTC EVO be come this Spring? (I don't want to pay for a "premium phone" when its outdated)
anyways sorry for the semi rant.. im slightly upset with sprint and their actions right now.
CTIA is guaranteed to give us something good. I am hoping for a Galaxy S2 or something equivalent. But then again... Sprint has been known to let you down. Tough call.
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they better come out with something that will at least compete with others phones (like the droid x::evo) otherwise they will have many unhappy customers who cancel and leave... hell they charge $10 for a premium phone now, how premium will the HTC EVO be come this Spring? (I don't want to pay for a "premium phone" when its outdated)
anyways sorry for the semi rant.. im slightly upset with sprint and their actions right now.
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You aren't paying $10 for a premium phone. You are paying the $10 for the premium data package, and All smartphones on the sprint network will be paying the exact same fee, its not isolated to the Evo, Shift, or Epic, it will encompass the blackberry's and all other android phones that sprint carries.
On topic of best deals for the EVO, check RadioShack's online wireless store. It's going for $149.99 with free activation on new/upgrade subs. Or in-store, they require a trade-in of any old working phone with a charger to get the $149.99 price (check with your local stores if the deal still available).
IMHO, with all the new phones coming out, I would wait. I love my Evo, but I wouldn't get locked into a new 2-yr sub on a phone that is around 4mos shy of being a year old.
I would wait. EVO is nice but nothing compared to what other carriers are getting (Optimus). Hold out for a dual core device (hopefully from HTC).
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I don't care if Samsung comes out with a quad-core phone. I'm not touching that **** after what happened with the Galaxy S line.
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I agree with this. Samsung left a bad taste with me after having my epic with GPS issues, dropped keys and no 2.2 (till just recently)
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heck yea its amazing i was skeptical too till i played with one
I love my Evo. That said I think it would work perfect for everything you listed except for one. The Evo's camera pretty much sucks.
I have a release day Evo, so maybe the newer ones are a little better, but unless the pictures I have taken were in bright daylight they are almost unusable.
http://www.studentrate.com/STUDENTR...deals/Sprint-Student-Rate-Member-Discount--/0
Not sure if studentrate still offers $69.99 Evos.
ATM The Evo is the best phone for Sprint. If you want to wait for something better you can. Personally this is the best phone I've ever used. While it is on par or a little worse than some of the newer phones coming out, its been a year and they are finally catching up.
You also have to take into consideration how much longer the Evo is going to stay ahead or on par with these phones. We might be seeing Gingerbread and Sense 2.0 but that might be a long shot.
If you aren't having any issues with your Hero, I'd say stick with it for a few more months. See what comes out.
Thank you everyone, for the honest opinions. I got a lot of info.
Well, it's about a month later now, and I'm still on my HTC Hero. I just found out about the $10 extra, which I will be paying if I upgrade. My girlfriend has a big family plan on T-mobile, and after calculations, it seems I will be saving about $20 a month using a phone under her name, on T-mobile.
Of course, this means I need to ditch Sprint. I don't feel too bad after being on the Network for a year and being charged for extra if I want to upgrade. No serious official updates for their phones either, thank god I rooted mine, the best thing I've ever done to it.
I checked the T-mobile 2G today, and wasn't that impressed. I liked the keyboard, but the specs are not as good as the EVO. By the way, what are these issues I'm hearing about the EVO's camera? it's 8MP, how come it's so bad? I only have 5mp now, and so does the 2G. What are the specific issues you guys are having?
Right now I am going to find out just how much it will cost me to get out of Sprint, and if it's worth it (buying a new phone on T-mobile will cost me $100 extra over an upgrade in Sprint). What are some of the good T-mobile phones you guys think are good? Camera with flash is important to me, and so does screen size - two things I really like about the EVO. I do want a big screen. I would also like a keyboard if possible.
Anything changed in the market? New amazing Spring phones I'm not aware of, or T-Mobile? I am specifically interested in HTC, I'm not a big fan of Samsung or Motorola.
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Thank you everyone, for the honest opinions. I got a lot of info.
Well, it's about a month later now, and I'm still on my HTC Hero. I just found out about the $10 extra, which I will be paying if I upgrade. My girlfriend has a big family plan on T-mobile, and after calculations, it seems I will be saving about $20 a month using a phone under her name, on T-mobile.
Of course, this means I need to ditch Sprint. I don't feel too bad after being on the Network for a year and being charged for extra if I want to upgrade. No serious official updates for their phones either, thank god I rooted mine, the best thing I've ever done to it.
I checked the T-mobile 2G today, and wasn't that impressed. I liked the keyboard, but the specs are not as good as the EVO. By the way, what are these issues I'm hearing about the EVO's camera? it's 8MP, how come it's so bad? I only have 5mp now, and so does the 2G. What are the specific issues you guys are having?
Right now I am going to find out just how much it will cost me to get out of Sprint, and if it's worth it (buying a new phone on T-mobile will cost me $100 extra over an upgrade in Sprint). What are some of the good T-mobile phones you guys think are good? Camera with flash is important to me, and so does screen size - two things I really like about the EVO. I do want a big screen. I would also like a keyboard if possible.
Anything changed in the market? New amazing Spring phones I'm not aware of, or T-Mobile? I am specifically interested in HTC, I'm not a big fan of Samsung or Motorola.
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See: http://www.androidcentral.com/sprin...ils-leaked-expect-evo-3d-evo-view-4g-and-xoom
CTIA is this coming Tuesday. Sprint's presentation is hours long. I'd be sure to keep your eye out on here and other tech news sites for what Sprint announces. If that Evo 3D becomes a reality, I'd imagine anyone would want to hold out for that instead of acquiring the Evo now only to have the Evo 3D replace it in months.
Furthremore, if looking into T-Mobile and leaving Sprint (which, as a biased member, I would be against!), keep in mind that at 3:15 PM EDT, a merger between AT&T and T-Mobile was announced, the former acquiring the latter.
You read the title. It's rooted, running gingerbread never had any issues. This is my first htc device and while it has its +'s I'm not happy with it. I've had it since may. Thinking of selling it so I can buy a bionic or tablet. I don't know what a realistic price is, but I'm thinking somewhere between upgrade and full retail.
A) This shouldn't be in accessories.
B)You'll get about $375 for it if its perfect.
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Are you posting this because your soliciting offers, or do you want us to talk you back down to earth?
We here in the TB subthread are a hearty bunch who very much like our somewhat maligned smartphone
$375 would be optimistic, and definitely not including eBay/Paypal fees (google for a calculator to get a good idea of how much they take).
What is not doing it for you on the TB? Have you tried some of the slimmed roms?
Well to put it bluntly, I hate sense. Fixed that with launcher pro, but that doesn't let me use the sense elements I do like. The signal is crap (where I am), no 4g here yet. I only got it to be grandfathered in before the tiered data plans. Now that they are extended I'm thinking of other options. It's a ford chevy thing. You can argue it all day and no one is right or wrong. My droid x was more reliable in my area, and usability is most important to me.
Can't blame a man for that...you'll get no flaming from me.
I have a great VZW signal and LTE where I'm at. I completely understand where you are coming from.
Have you tried, for S&G, another Tbolt just to see if you could get better reception?
I'm with you on tiered data...I just got my girl her iPhone 4 Saturday (I could not convince her to come to the dark side...sorry..lol)
My advice is to try a replacement first before you sign off...but I understand if you do, regardless. Best of luck...
Yea a thunderbolt without 4g is nothing but a dinc 2. You really liked your droid x? I hated that phone, no matter OC or rom, it always was mega laggy throughout the UI. The hdmi out was nice though.
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You read the title. It's rooted, running gingerbread never had any issues. This is my first htc device and while it has its +'s I'm not happy with it. I've had it since may. Thinking of selling it so I can buy a bionic or tablet. I don't know what a realistic price is, but I'm thinking somewhere between upgrade and full retail.
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I will give $250 (including shipping) for it.
I know the TB has no HDMI, but what do you guys use that feature for anyway?
I went from the Droid to TB and other than the battery life I love the TB! I've got 4G in my area and get 16mb download which is simply awesome. The 3 hour battery life or 5 hour if I turn off LTE sucks big time.
When does the bionic come out anyway? Im not too crazy for moto after the X and D2 days with the locked boot loaders. Even tho there were ways around it, it still sucked. Hopefully the Bionic is not the same.
I agree, different strokes for different fokes. I had the Droid X and after having the TB, I haven't looked back once. I liked my X until I didn't. I'm in Portland Oregon where there isn't 4g either so I'm on 3g and I still would take my TB over the X. but thats just my opinion.
not trying to diss the OP but the tbolt is the most solid phone verizon carries. i mean yeah sense sucks but i just use launcherpro + the sense 3.0 lockscreen. i mean come on man there are tons of alternative launchers on the market and xda. sounds as if he just is making excuses to dump the phone.
no offense but i think you would be happier sticking to this one as both samsung & moto phones are not the best and do not get as many updates as htc phones. trust me as ive owned almost every brand out there.
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I will give $250 (including shipping) for it.
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i wouldn't except anything under $300 for this phone.
I'll give you a BAMFed Nook Color for it : D
Im not understanding how rooted users are getting terrible battery life. 1GHz is plenty fast for anything a phone will do leave it there and underclock it when its off, I got another 6-8 hours of battery life out of my TB and no lag what so ever.
I completely understand if you don't have 4G because if it wasn't for my awesome 4G I would have probably gotten rid of it and just waited for the galaxy s2. But the amount of dev support already for the TB has made me stick with it.
Noooooo don't selllllllll
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I don't understand why ppl don't like sense. It's slippery slick on BAMF! The battery life is not that bad if not good. It's a great phone. I dont have 4g and I still happy. Just sell it and move on to whatever...
BAMF'd Tbolt w/ tapatalk
I wouldn't sell it. The bolt is just at the point of infancy with development so who knows what other ROMs will come out
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I appreciate all of your input, but it's not the ui. It's the equipment. When I'm in charlotte this phone is awesome. But when I'm not its data usage is about as useful as my old lg voyager. It has a weak ant. This is my second one, rooted tried all radios and several roms. Other than the signal issue, great phone. I'm not hating, it just won't work for my situation. Once I have 4g it wouldn't be an issue, but that's not slated until mid 2012 in my area.
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I appreciate all of your input, but it's not the ui. It's the equipment. When I'm in charlotte this phone is awesome. But when I'm not its data usage is about as useful as my old lg voyager. It has a weak ant. This is my second one, rooted tried all radios and several roms. Other than the signal issue, great phone. I'm not hating, it just won't work for my situation. Once I have 4g it wouldn't be an issue, but that's not slated until mid 2012 in my area.
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I'm with you on this. If you wanna sell it, sell it. You shouldn't come to a forum so strangers can agree or disagree with you on that matter. I personally wish you the best of luck in your voyage on selling the device. I'd do it sooner than later considering as each day passes by, the phone you own right now is depreciating in value quickly. Hold onto the money until the next great phone comes out. Maybe the Galaxy S2 (Function). I know I'm as lost as everyone else is about that phone's specs for verizon, but I think it's going to be CDMA only w/o LTE. I'm personally waiting for that to come out before I start thinking about ditching my bolt which works great for me
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I agree, different strokes for different fokes. I had the Droid X and after having the TB, I haven't looked back once. I liked my X until I didn't. I'm in Portland Oregon where there isn't 4g either so I'm on 3g and I still would take my TB over the X. but thats just my opinion.
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You need to turn on your 4G bud. It's been up and running in Portland, OR for at least a few weeks now. I know that it hasn't been "announced." But it's working... I live here.
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Okay guys I know many xda'ers don't hold apple in high regard but my girlfriend is looking to upgrade her blackberry soon. I would just like some opinions of the dinc2 and if anyone has used an ip4 as well and how do they compare? Hows the camera and video capture on dinc2? Also most likely I will be rooting her phone if she gets the dinc2 because she loves miui and wondering how easy it is to root it, Ive read the alpharev thread and I think I have the gist of it. Thanks any thoughts and opinions would be awesome.
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Okay guys I know many xda'ers don't hold apple in high regard but my girlfriend is looking to upgrade her blackberry soon. I would just like some opinions of the dinc2 and if anyone has used an ip4 as well and how do they compare? Hows the camera and video capture on dinc2? Also most likely I will be rooting her phone if she gets the dinc2 because she loves miui and wondering how easy it is to root it, Ive read the alpharev thread and I think I have the gist of it. Thanks any thoughts and opinions would be awesome.
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I have chick friends that love the inc2, and I have chick friends that love the iphone4, depends on what she or U lol plan to do to it, root, jailbreak, ect..or nothing. if she wants basic go apple. if you want great community support go android.
Its not like android would be particularly difficult to get the hang of, hell my grandpa uses a Droid X. The iPhone isn't going to do anything the inc 2 can't, at this point I think people buy apple due to the perceived status.
And rooting is very simple, its not "one-click" easy, but if you're computer literate its easy. Literally takes a couple minutes once you're ready to go.
I do like the design of apple products but the company and its beloved followers I can't stand. In the end it is up to her but she weighs a lot on my opinion and told her I would ask the fine people at xda as well lol! Also I am cashing out 100 dollars to help pay for it too, and since I got a nexus, I'm hoping she pics the dinc2 .
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I do like the design of apple products but the company and its beloved followers I can't stand. In the end it is up to her but she weighs a lot on my opinion and told her I would ask the fine people at xda as well lol! Also I am cashing out 100 dollars to help pay for it too, and since I got a nexus, I'm hoping she pics the dinc2 .
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Put it this way. you can get an iPhone and be stuck with iOS and whatever memory size you happen to choose forever (not to mention feel bitter once the next iPhone comes out).
Or you can get the more recent, more technically advanced DInc2, and be able interchange SD cards and Batteries, and switch HTC Sense, AOSP, or MIUI (which is basically iOS, except better because you can use widgets and everything else that makes Android awesome). In my opinion, if you fall prey to the flashy logos, sleek design and massive marketing and ignore the obvious advantages of the HTC android phones, then you deserve to be pigeon-holed in with the mouth-breathers that stand outside the Apple Store all night waiting for the iPad 3 to come out so it can (not) run flash up to 3X faster!
The only problem is I wouldn't get too excited about rooting the Inc2 off the jump because if you get one now it's likely to come with Gingerbread (unless one has been sitting on a shelf for a bit). If you get one, you better get it quick. Froyo had the only known root method and no telling how long it'll take to crack Gingerbread
That said, even in the situation that I didn't root, I have the Incredible 2 and I'd take it over the iPhone easily. HTC sense is really not a bad UI at all, slower than AOSP of course but of all the manufacturer skins on top of Android, Sense UI is by far the most useful.
The biggest problem with the iPhone 4 (to me) is that it doesn't really multitask and the hardware is starting to get a bit dated. The iPhone 4 isn't "slow" by any means, but most modern Android phones will run circles around it. The Dinc2 has good battery life too, I have to absolutely abuse mine for it not to last a whole day easily
If you do happen to get one with Froyo, AlpharevX is as painless as it gets. S-off and it installs clockworkmod recovery for you if you elect to.
Thanks guys, told her what you guys said and she is like 100 % sure she wants the dinc2 Now I'm excited, I get to play with 2 phones, hopefully she'll get one with froyo. If not I can always install adw or go luancher if she doesn't like sense.
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If she's coming from Blackberry and uses a ton of photo/video out of the phone the iphone may be better for you.
I switched my wife over from an Inc 1 to the iPhone and she's in love with it. The camera is unrivaled to be brutally honest, it smokes any android phones camera and i'd love for my inc2 to have the same quality.
Basically she's not a tech person, she needed easy, something that took good pictures, and battery. The inc2 has great battery but still nowhere near the IP4.
I've owned both, and I would never personally go back to an iPhone, but for my wife it was perfect for her, and she would never give hers up.
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Thanks guys, told her what you guys said and she is like 100 % sure she wants the dinc2 Now I'm excited, I get to play with 2 phones, hopefully she'll get one with froyo. If not I can always install adw or go luancher if she doesn't like sense.
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If you get one with Gingerbread on it, you can still S-OFF using the clip method.
If you're getting it new from Verizon I can't think of why it wouldn't be on froyo, unless HTC is already shipping out new units with gingerbread. Just don't take the OTA if you want root.
yeah she told me that she "didn't want to fall to the hype of iphone" lol. She just wants a bigger screen, and she always carries around a point and shoot where ever she goes so camera i'snt really that big of a deal. Also the Dinc2 is 50 dollars less than the iphone at bestbuy. All in all she goes one week to make up her mind lol!
well, the way I see it is that an iphone 4 is pretty much an ipod touch that you can make calls with. the other advantage, which is the main one i'd say, is that if you have a nice sound system in your car and the deck has an AUX in then absolutely nothing can compare with the output quality of an ipod touch/iphone.
ive tried mp3 players from creative, sansa(even with rockbox), sony, etc... even tried different phones(mytouch 3g, htc hd2, samsung galaxy s, and my current incredible 2). no matter how you adjust the eq's or what apps you use(even poweramp), they still do not compare to apple.
but, if you arent planning on doing that in your car then theres no point in getting an iphone4(especially now that android has Plants vs Zombies).
Best advice when choosing a device:
Go to a store with active devices and play with them. Spend some time with them. If you know people with the devices in mind, ask them if you can play with them and get to know them. Make the choice based on your experience, not the advice of others, because it all comes down to personal preference.
As much as I am a big fan of Android and Android devices, and despite the fact that I will never choose an iOS device, I would recommend a person try it before rejecting it.
My sister tried going from a blackberry to an Android device and found one very big legitimate problem with it. She's on Sprint and doesn't have the iPhone as a choice so she went back to blackberry. She liked Android, but that one glaring flaw was enough to push her away from it (at least for now). Of course, the same flaw exists on the iPhone so she's doomed to be stuck on blackberry (yeah, I hate blackberry).
If you want to know the flaw: She can make calls and do certain tasks without looking at her device. With Android, she was unable to do this. I'm betting with something like a Droid Pro this wouldn't be an issue, and the voice command features Android has acquired more recently would help a little, but it's not where she could get as proficient at it as she is with her blackberry.
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If you want to know the flaw: She can make calls and do certain tasks without looking at her device. With Android, she was unable to do this. I'm betting with something like a Droid Pro this wouldn't be an issue, and the voice command features Android has acquired more recently would help a little, but it's not where she could get as proficient at it as she is with her blackberry.
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Just out of curiosity, what kind of certain tasks? Is it a difference between having physical buttons versus softkeys?
EDIT: NVM.. I think I figured out what you might be referring to. That's an issue I have as well, but voice is a big help in it (even if not 100%).
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Just out of curiosity, what kind of certain tasks? Is it a difference between having physical buttons versus softkeys?
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Something like that. It's mostly a problem with her particular usage. She gets tactile feedback for what she is trying to do and can generally get things done without looking at her device. She's a pretty big multitasker so this is important to her. Unfortunately, this also helps her use her device in the car (I wish she wouldn't TBH).
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Something like that. It's mostly a problem with her particular usage. She gets tactile feedback for what she is trying to do and can generally get things done without looking at her device. She's a pretty big multitasker so this is important to her. Unfortunately, this also helps her use her device in the car (I wish she wouldn't TBH).
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Tactile feel = knowing keyboard layout. I was real good at punching out emails on my 9700 without looking at it for most of the email. Same with the car use, which I definitely no longer do (despite the fact that it is now also illegal here).
Curiosity answered.. Thanks.
I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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Nothing is worthy of replacing the inc yet. I look daily. Lol
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wollitaj said:
I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.
I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.
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I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.
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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*
I did a long hard search and honestly there is nothing better than the DINC right now.
The Droid incredible 2 I still wouldn't take just because of the lack of development.
I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.
actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps
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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*
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Ill tell ya what, if the next nexus is truely an HTC phone on Verizon, I will definitely get it. Its the best of everything android stands for. Open source vanilla OS and superior hardware. HTC is, by far, my top pick for any android phone!!!! And ics, come on.... What more can u ask for?
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I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.
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That's when I have my upgrade option as well and honestly I'm thinking about switching to Sprint. They have been getting some of the best phones lately. When I look at Verizon's line up and upcoming it seems to be all of the same.
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actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps
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Hm i didn't see that.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/sprints-fared-adib-we-made-a-conscious-decision-to-scale-back/
Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.
I have incredible faith (heh heh) in our devs. Seeing as the inc2 has just been rooted and we have the 2 big boys, cm7 and Miui already available for the device, i believe ill be accidentally taking a shower with my Dinc in my pocket in the next few weeks.
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Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.
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Also, as far as I'm concerned, as long as the devs hold in there with this phone until the end of this year and port ICS, I will probably keep this phone until it dies.
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Im keeping my Incredible until 3/13/13. Then i dont know if my girlfriend gets my upgrade or i do.
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What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc, absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard. I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet. There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.
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I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.
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Verizon gets a small incentive from the companies of the bloatware, that's why they put them on there. and i don't think verizon will ever get a nexus bone stock android phone, i really don't, here is why. Verizon isn't really out there for the consumer, they are out there for the profit. hence why, i mean at t-mobile and ATT, if you want a new phone, no problem, walk into the store, and get one at the upgrade price....in the middle of your contract.
Verizon hasn't gotten the idea of that just yet. plus like other companies, verizon does have shareholders to report to (and they aren't happy, they think the data plan changes will ruin their investment)
the only reason i have verizon is because that's the only carrier here with decent coverege, and they really aren't as bad as people make them out to be.
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What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc,
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that's your oppinion.
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absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard.
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yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
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I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet.
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maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
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There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.
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really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
the way you pimp the freaking t-bolt so much... the thunderbolt threads are down there
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that's your oppinion.
yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
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Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.
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Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.
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Wow man way to be a total ****. I have an incredible and my brother has a Tbolt, I can honestly say I prefer mine over it.
Besides that, although the Tbolt and INC2 *are* upgrades from the INC- for most people they just aren't worth someone's 2-year contract or full retail to get that sort of an upgrade. You've been out of the INC scene for a while it looks like.. and DEV's here are still putting out loads of stuff every day increasing performance/battery life/features -- moreso than INC2 or Thunderbolt since they've been out a shorter time. The INC2 even has issues now where if you buy it and it comes with GB, you can't even root it.
4G is extremely scarce, if you drive out 5 miles from whatever city you're in then you're out of luck as far as 4G goes. 4G is nowhere in my state yet, not even in our capitol (Richmond) and it looks like it'll be at least a year, probably more until we get it. The 3G, at least where I'm at, is fantastically good. I get 320kb/s on a good day and low 200's/kb/s during peak hours. That's enough to stream Colbert report, download movies (I've downloaded 4 so far) and watch netflix without pauses or hiccups.
So.. even if there WAS 4G in my area there really isn't any need that I get it since I don't normally watch HD movies on a ~4" screen or tether it to a datacenter.
Your opinion and mine.. but you don't need to flaunt around your phone while downing the INC (on our own forums) which is a perfectly awesome phone.
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I thought this was about "the announcement", lol.
I don't feel myself looking forward to the next phone on the horizon I'm actually satisfied with what I have for once.
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I actually identify with this, after coming from a Moment to a Hero to an EVO4G quickly...had that for a year, happily, then to an E3D, to ANOTHER E3D, to an NS4G, to ANOTHER E3D, considered the photon but wasn't impressed, and finally to the ET4G I agree whole heartedly.
I anticipated just jumping to the Nexus Prime ASAP, but, I think I'll hang onto this device for a while....and this is before I've done any more than flash CWM in preparation.
xReMiNGToN said:
I'm currently a Sprint employee and I work at an Indirect retailer/service & repair center. I'll be the first to admit that I have a serious phone addiction. I somehow end up getting all the new phones right when they launch and get to play with all the ones I don't get to carry personally. My family has a business plan with 17 lines so I'm always able to somehow squeeze and upgrade out, do a "Repair" swap to a comparable model, or employee purchase a phone.
My girlfriend has had an iPhone 4 since launch and even though I used to carry one for awhile I've grown to resent them. My first Android upon working here was a Samsung Epic which I loved at first (coming from an iPhone 3G) but as I loaded more apps on it I watched it become laggy and seen it develop quite an overheating problem. I was extremely close to going back with an iPhone then I found this site and began experimenting with rooting and custom roms and now I'm hooked.
So to flash forward since my Epic days (sorry I've been rambling) I've went from a Nexus S to a EVO 3D to a HTC Arrive (tried something new and yeah didn't work out) to a Motorola Photon and now finally a Galaxy S II. Needless to say every single phone I've had up until this one had issues I just couldn't cope with. My nexus got horrible signal wherever I was at and 3G was practically worthless. I was so hyped about the 3D and when it launched the first one I had was defective and my second would freeze and lag constantly. To top it all off about 30% of the ones we would sell were defective out of the box. It's hard to have love for a phone that you sell to someone only to see them come back the next day ready to rip your head off. After that I figured I'd try something new and went with an HTC Arrive. I'll spare you the details lets just say a week into it and I was done. So I decided to go with the Photon and for the most part I liked it other then the horrible UI (Customer Launchers saved me) and the silent call issue that plagued it.
I'd been reading about the GSII for awhile and once I heard it was coming to Sprint I had to make sure I could get it on Launch. Enough calls into Sprint got me my upgrade early and I took the bait and dove right in not knowing exactly what new "issues" I'd be getting myself into. It's been almost a week since I've had mine and I can say without a doubt that I've never ever owned a phone this amazing. Everything about it is superb from the screen, to the UI, and the sleek design. I haven't had NOT ONE single problem with this phone and to me that's saying something. Traditionally almost all of our Samsung devices have been crap. Plain and simple. This phone was bashed by all my coworkers before launch because of the bad name Samsung had made for themselves. Now they're just as amazed as I am. I don't feel myself looking forward to the next phone on the horizon I'm actually satisfied with what I have for once.
I know this post is nothing but rambling but honestly this phone is everything I've ever hoped for and more. Once the roms start pouring in I truly feel it will be a short while before this phone is dethroned as King. I guess I made this post just to see how everyone else was feeling about there phone and if anyone has had similar issues with past phones and now finds themselves satisfied.
This is my first post on here so don't flame me too hard =) Any thoughts/experiences would be appreciated especially from anyone else who shares my phone addiction lol
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im an ex-employee so i totally feel you and your addiction. Its a serious issue, and an expensive one lol.
But yes your right. When I bought the 3d, my dude that still works there tried to talk me out of buying it. Because of the power and signal issues. Of course like a idiot I still did. Wanted to love that thing so bad.
Im going to also agree with you 1000%. This is my DREAM phone. Ive lost sleep over the s2. When i heard Sprint was getting it, I literally thought about nothing else than the Epic Touch, aside from women and money. This thing is awesome. ****t, the only thing I want is higher resolution, but even with that I love this phone. I cant imagine what the next one will be like, but for the FIRST time in my life, I AM TOTALLY SATISFIED WITH A PHONE!!!
Yes my addiction to crack started when I was..oh wait...your talking phones...Like you my friend I have had every phone you listed (except the Arrive...my god man what were you thinking!) and this is the best phone I have owned..hands down. No problems...yet. Great camera and fast. I love it!
I will agree. I was happy with the HTC Incredible based on what was available and told myself that no matter how bad I wanted a new phone no 'feature" would be worth the upgrade until dual-core chips hit. Yes I jumped on the LTE band wagon but quickly realized that was far from ready for daily use. Then they(dual-core) hit and man its been disappointing till the chip Samsung used( Exynos). That chip with the GPU totally blows anything else out of the water.
Maybe just stick to iphone if android gives you so much trouble? I'm pretty sure there are lots of users on this forum that use Epic1, Nexus S and Evo 3D with no problems.
+1 from me. Nice write up, thanks.
BenKranged said:
Maybe just stick to iphone if android gives you so much trouble? I'm pretty sure there are lots of users on this forum that use Epic1, Nexus S and Evo 3D with no problems.
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Every thing i was reading was great until this, you had to mention the iPhone and to top ot off, recommended sticking with it if Android gives you problems. Expecially if you're talking about the E4GT, man what were you thinking.
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Every thing i was reading was great until this, you had to mention the iPhone and to top ot off, recommended sticking with it if Android gives you problems. Expecially if you're talking about the E4GT, man what were you thinking.
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+1 this post was pointless. Anywhoo. Back to the subject at hand
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im an ex-employee so i totally feel you and your addiction. Its a serious issue, and an expensive one lol.
But yes your right. When I bought the 3d, my dude that still works there tried to talk me out of buying it. Because of the power and signal issues. Of course like a idiot I still did. Wanted to love that thing so bad.
Im going to also agree with you 1000%. This is my DREAM phone. Ive lost sleep over the s2. When i heard Sprint was getting it, I literally thought about nothing else than the Epic Touch, aside from women and money. This thing is awesome. ****t, the only thing I want is higher resolution, but even with that I love this phone. I cant imagine what the next one will be like, but for the FIRST time in my life, I AM TOTALLY SATISFIED WITH A PHONE!!!
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most definately i am very satisfied with this phone just stock. thats amazing to say cuz i was a flashoholic. from the og evo. i can root but no need to since im on vacation only needed it for work. and the resolution is a small minus but dont mind really the screen looks amazing everywhere. my real minus is kickstand. coming froma evo i miss the hell out of it
I thought sprint employee don't get the phone untill 2 or three week because customer are the one paying the most and they should be the first to have it?.......I am under an employee account ( SWAC ) and sprint wouldn't let me buy the phone at all. They keep saying it's one of the disadvantage of being under this plan, but is more advantage than have a regular plan. God DAMN! I can't wait till is available to buy ( BUT WHEN?).........It was kinda funny on launch day I went to sprint store and they told I can't buy it cause I'm under employee account......I was like WTF! than why ya let me buy the gift card to reserve for the Epic 4G Touch?...they was like, well....who ever sold you that card should of known better, we are really sorry......I was like can I have my refund?......they said, No, we can't refund but you can use to buy any sprint product........I was like, can I use it to buy the phone when is available for SWAC plan?........they said, ummmm maybe... I said...CRAP! bye!!!!
I dont have any desire to worry about any phone coming out after getting this phone. It does everything I need it to better than any other phone I have come across.
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most definately i am very satisfied with this phone just stock. thats amazing to say cuz i was a flashoholic. from the og evo. i can root but no need to since im on vacation only needed it for work. and the resolution is a small minus but dont mind really the screen looks amazing everywhere. my real minus is kickstand. coming froma evo i miss the hell out of it
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I miss the kickstand dearly, but funny thing is I never actually used it as a kickstand. I just fidgeted with it ALL THE TIME. Now I have nothing to fidget with so I swipe through my home panels near compulsively.
I went from a Razr to a crap cricket phone to helio ocean to palm pixi to hero to epic 4g to inspire 4g to evo and finally to eptouch
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Every thing i was reading was great until this, you had to mention the iPhone and to top ot off, recommended sticking with it if Android gives you problems. Expecially if you're talking about the E4GT, man what were you thinking.
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The guy said he used to use iphone and had problems with the epic1, nexus s and evo 3D, which are all good android phones. I was suggesting the problem was the user not the android phones.
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I thought sprint employee don't get the phone untill 2 or three week because customer are the one paying the most and they should be the first to have it?.......I am under an employee account ( SWAC ) and sprint wouldn't let me buy the phone at all. They keep saying it's one of the disadvantage of being under this plan, but is more advantage than have a regular plan. God DAMN! I can't wait till is available to buy ( BUT WHEN?).........It was kinda funny on launch day I went to sprint store and they told I can't buy it cause I'm under employee account......I was like WTF! than why ya let me buy the gift card to reserve for the Epic 4G Touch?...they was like, well....who ever sold you that card should of known better, we are really sorry......I was like can I have my refund?......they said, No, we can't refund but you can use to buy any sprint product........I was like, can I use it to buy the phone when is available for SWAC plan?........they said, ummmm maybe... I said...CRAP! bye!!!!
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Sprint employees can't buy it yet. That's how it always is they have to wait a while before high end phones to become available to them. HOWEVER...one person per corporate store gets designated to be an advocate, and are responsible for making sure the staff is well informed on it and handling customer questions about it, and they get to keep the phone because of it. I was the advocate for the palm pre and OG Evo
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I miss the kickstand dearly, but funny thing is I never actually used it as a kickstand. I just fidgeted with it ALL THE TIME. Now I have nothing to fidget with so I swipe through my home panels near compulsively.
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Haha.... yeah I always used the battery cover clip on my Captivate and flicked it back and forth...
I think all phones should have a dedicated fidget system...
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Haha.... yeah I always used the battery cover clip on my Captivate and flicked it back and forth...
I think all phones should have a dedicated fidget system...
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So true. I barely ever used my E4G kickstand but boy did I miss it when it was gone.
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I thought sprint employee don't get the phone untill 2 or three week because customer are the one paying the most and they should be the first to have it?.......I am under an employee account ( SWAC ) and sprint wouldn't let me buy the phone at all. They keep saying it's one of the disadvantage of being under this plan, but is more advantage than have a regular plan. God DAMN! I can't wait till is available to buy ( BUT WHEN?).........It was kinda funny on launch day I went to sprint store and they told I can't buy it cause I'm under employee account......I was like WTF! than why ya let me buy the gift card to reserve for the Epic 4G Touch?...they was like, well....who ever sold you that card should of known better, we are really sorry......I was like can I have my refund?......they said, No, we can't refund but you can use to buy any sprint product........I was like, can I use it to buy the phone when is available for SWAC plan?........they said, ummmm maybe... I said...CRAP! bye!!!!
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He's not a Sprint employee. Indirect dealers are not Sprint employees, they work for a company that has a reseller agreement with Sprint.
He also said he has a family plan with 17 lines, so he got it on a non employee line, then moved it to his line. I know indirect employees get a discounted line, not sure how much it is though.
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