My first post here
Ok so I rooted my HTC EVO with Unrevoked and loved it. Everithing is working just fine. Lately I am getting the OTA Update request but I denied it since I read I could brick my phone. I found on this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251 what I think i need to update the OTA but dont know the difference between Deodexed Version and Odexed Version... What do I need to use or do to Update the OTA...is it different than rooting?? Thanks for your help!
Software 3.29.651.5
Android 2.2
Just flash a rom. Most available now are based off the 3.70 ota. Deodexing is process that allows for easier theming. Odexed roms will boot up faster and are basically completely stock.
Sent from my HTC Supersonic
Yup new rom flash. I'd you like sense I suggest myn's warm twopointtwo, but for aosp you can't go wrong with cyanogenmod. Look around a bit. most all round come deodexed these days & I would suggest it. Odexed is apparently not notoceably faster, but I can't say since i've never used an odexed rom. Deodexing is basically taking all the framework files & making a new path for them. Correct me if I'm wrong
Thanks for your replies, i really never tried to flash new roms in my phone since I dont know much about it but I will read around...what king of guidelines you can use to select the ROM you will use since y see there a lot of different around
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I've had an android phone for a while now, rooted and messed with my G1 all the way up to android 2.1. I love sense on my incredible and I want to keep it that way but I cannot live without root. Is there a rom is just stock but with root capabilities, I want everything on my phone to work (LED, camera, etc.) but also have root.
Would've posted this in a Q&A section but there isn't one for the incredible. Move if necessary
Download the unrEVOked 3.1 and run it. You'll have stock sense and root.
The poster wants Sense with the latest OTA updates.
Your answer should be here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726791
Your answer should be here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726791
Im new to this forum and I had a few questions about downgrading from the stock froyo 2.2 back down to 2.1, I installed it manually I was wondering if there is any way to do this?
Jacoblee0123 said:
Im new to this forum and I had a few questions about downgrading from the stock froyo 2.2 back down to 2.1, I installed it manually I was wondering if there is any way to do this?
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As of right now there is no possible way. But give it time.
i'm looking to downgrade as well if anyone hears of anything!
I was reading about someone downgrading their nexus one froyo back to eclair using andoid sdk and some rooted sign file and a recovery file. Lucky nexus one users lol.
Anyone know anything about this?
if you want to downgrade then wait, it took a long time to root the last OTA.
If you want to upgrade and keep root, NEVER accept anything from sprint, only install from XDA or a similar forum.
The fact that this is an entire OS upgrade can either be a good or bad thing in how long it's going to take to root.
Look at it this way: If you could downgrade to 2.1, there would be no warnings or questions about how to root after flashing the 2.2 update. The answer would be "downgrade to 2.1 and root it like before."
But once 2.2 is rooted, you will most likely be able to flash a 2.1 stock or custom ROM if you wish. Just make sure you flash one that's pre-rooted.
Thanks for all the info guys, I wanted to downgrade to run cyanogen mod and overclock etc.
Could someone explain or point me in the direction of an explanation for how installing a custom rom affected automatic updates, as well as the difference between pre and post ota, and why we can't install a pure clean android 2.2 installation in our phones. I am relatively new to this, but did alot of iPhone hacking before.. I've already rooted, S-OFF and flashed a few different roms having my phone 2 weeks and new to android hope someone can explain, thanks :_)
When you flash a custom ROM, you will no longer get the automatic updates OTA. Either you will have to revert to the stock ROM for the update, or the ROM developer will have to incorporate the OTA update changes into the ROM.
There are a few ROMs that attempt to give you a plain vanilla Android experience. But in my opinion, Cyanogen is one of the best mixes of plain Android with lots of extra features.
Okay that makes sense, I'm currently using a villian rom with no sense, is it worth my while installing cyanogen? and if so will i go with RC4 of wait for the stable release?
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Could someone explain or point me in the direction of an explanation for how installing a custom rom affected automatic updates, as well as the difference between pre and post ota, and why we can't install a pure clean android 2.2 installation in our phones. I am relatively new to this, but did alot of iPhone hacking before.. I've already rooted, S-OFF and flashed a few different roms having my phone 2 weeks and new to android hope someone can explain, thanks :_)
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Well, the reason for many semi-bricks from trying to downgrade to original stock rom pre- or post-OTA was the fact that hboot was hacked, and not truly "S-OFF." If you search the dev section you will find the S-OFF, SIM unlock, SuperCID guide that will give you true S-OFF. I recommend reading that--it helped elucidate why semi-bricks were showing up. Once this is done, it should be easy to flash a rooted, stock ROM when the OTAs start showing up and get the update that way, or just wait for it appear in the forums (which is usually sooner than the OTA gets pushed out, anyhow).
So the S-OFF I have isn't complete? Not that I need a sim unlock as I bought the phone off contract, but it's worth my while getting the true S-OFF? Thanks for all ye're help, there are so many people talking about these things in every section it's hard to pull a search of a simple explanation,
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So the S-OFF I have isn't complete? Not that I need a sim unlock as I bought the phone off contract, but it's worth my while getting the true S-OFF? Thanks for all ye're help, there are so many people talking about these things in every section it's hard to pull a search of a simple explanation,
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Yes, the previous S-OFF was via an engineering version of HBOOT, which was set to report S-OFF. But the security setting is actually held in the radio, and was still S-ON.
The new, "true" S-OFF (via gfree) is a lot safer than the old method, e.g. much less prone to a brick if you flash the wrong thing (e.g. an older RUU than the ROM you're running).
All,
I've had my Evo for a few months and have almost pulled the trigger for rooting and tinkering with the phone a few times, stopping each time to read more and more about concerns like backing up the WiMax radio, and other things. Having read as much as I can until my eyes bleed and my brain hurts, I have two remaining questions:
1) I'm wondering if there's any reason to wait until a Sprint-blessed Gingerbread update gets released. If rooted and on some 3rd-party ROM, is there ANY reason to think that anything undesirable might happen to my phone when this update is released? I assume rooting methods might change, but I guess it won't matter if I'm already rooted (?). Anything at all, other than not receiving Sprint OTA updates?
2) I know there are multiple ways to root. To me, the differences boil down to Unrevoked (one-click) and everything else. I don't mind extra steps if there's reason to perform them. The only "con" that I've found to using Unrevoked (assuming I have a compatible Evo) is if "something goes wrong, you will have a bit more trouble trying to find out what went wrong" ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204 ).
I'm very concerned about having a WiMax radio backup and not losing my keys, and was planning on using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448 as xHausx mentions that explicitly, something I haven't seen very much. There seems to be some confusion that nandroid backups did/didn't backup your radio, or that only certain versions do/did.
Thanks for reading, I appreciate it.
Well im not an expert but this is what i know. First if you do root be prepared to go nuts. Once you get the hang of flashing roms/kernels you might get addicted and be flashing a rom or kernel way too often. Now all roms are basically the same with little differences that dont really matter. One is not better than the other you just have to find the one YOU like best. There are three types of roms. Sense based roms like Myns 2.2 or Fresh Rom. They are basically just like your stock phone with different apps and tweaks than sprint puts in. AOSP roms like Cyanogen Mod or Vaelpak. These are basically stock android (no sense) with little tweaks and apps thrown in. Then there is MIUI Rom which is basically iphones iOS for android phones. I tried all three and went back to sense roms cause everything works. Now for gingerbread. No doubt it will be better and faster than froyo. But it isnt going to be nothing evolutionary or anything. We thought froyo was going to be and its just a little better. Which will probably be the case with every new android update. So if you root you cannot get gingerbread when it is sent OTA, unless you unroot then update your phone. If your rooted you have to wait for the devs hear to cook up a rooted version of gingerbread. Which will take maybe a week after its official release. When i rooted i used unrevoked 3.21. I had to run it twice and it worked no problem. Flashed a rom and was on my way. I would say to use toasts method to root not unrevoked. Only because in order to run cyanogen mod. Which youll have to try. You have to downgrade your hboot to .76. Unrevoked does not do this and yes if you do have issues its kinda hard to figure wat is wrong. I did downgrade my hboot after and everything went fine, but i have seen alot of people having problems doing the way i did. Toasts method does this in the rooting process so youll be able to try any rom as soon as your done. Also youll get familiar with using adb shell, which i still dont know how to use because i used unrevoked. Now with the radios/rsa keys. As long as you dont try to flash a new radio or prl you wont lose your RSA keys. Ive never flashed one and my phone is fine. You dont have to update these. But if you decide you want to. Make sure and use amon ra 1.8 as your recovery and not clockwork mod. Amon will backup your rsa keys when you make your first nandroid backup after rooting and clockwork will not. One thing to remember is just cause some new version of a ROM or kernel or radio or whatever comes out and people are saying its so great doesnt mean it is going to be great on your phone. Some kernels will work great on your phone and suck on mine. If your phone is working great and youve found a rom you love and a kernel that gives you great speed and battery life stick with it. Everytime you flash something..you can have problems. Most are easy to fix by restoring a nandroid or wiping the phone and reflashing the rom. But still its not a good feeling. For instance i run Myns Rom 2.2 RLS3 his new version RLS 4 is out now and everyone says its great. But im sticking with RLS3 because it has the look,feel,speed,battery life i need and want and theres no reason to upgrade. Only when he releases a gingerbread version of his rom. Sounds like you have been doing your research which is good. I studied for a couple months before rooting. Everything in this post is what ive come to understand, but everything in rooting is development so nothing is set in stone. I may not be 100% right on all this stuff jus tryin to help
P.S. i used the videos made by djr3z over at http://www.thedroiddemos.com when i rooted.
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
I've read that if you are using a stock rom and updated to 3.70.651.1 OTA then you don't have the ability to root. Is that true or am I just not understanding what I've read? I'd like to root to take advantage of wifi tethering for free. Also, if I'm free to root, any recommendations for which ROM to use would be appreciated.
Thanks
Nope I'm pretty sure you are good to go. Click me for some quick info I dug up
Best ROMs in my opinion:
Fresh: Sense
Myn's: Sense
CyanogenMod: AOSP
Well...according to this thread, [ROOT][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02/2.10 S-OFF - Got the Game Upset Edition - Updated 12.16.10, it states that if have the newest radio (2.15.00.11.19), it will not work although some have claim they could.
You can root your phone now and then just flash a rooted stock ROM or a custom ROM based on build 3.70.651.1.
You can, they posted a new method tonight....but theres only been one success for someone on 0004 hardware.
Fresh: Sense
Myn's: Sense
CyanogenMod: AOSP
Thanks. I'll check these out. I'll also check out each of the threads posted above, but I guess I'm still a little confused. It seems like you're all saying that it can be done, just with varying levels of success. I have the latest radio (2.15.00.11.19) so it seems like that may limit my options, correct?
Yeah, unfortunately that's just how it is. Take Unrevoked 3.21 for example. It was suppose to be a simple one click method to root the EVO but if you go look at their thread, at least half the people who used it were able to run it succcessfully with no problems at all and the other half ran into some kind of issues.