All,
I've had my Evo for a few months and have almost pulled the trigger for rooting and tinkering with the phone a few times, stopping each time to read more and more about concerns like backing up the WiMax radio, and other things. Having read as much as I can until my eyes bleed and my brain hurts, I have two remaining questions:
1) I'm wondering if there's any reason to wait until a Sprint-blessed Gingerbread update gets released. If rooted and on some 3rd-party ROM, is there ANY reason to think that anything undesirable might happen to my phone when this update is released? I assume rooting methods might change, but I guess it won't matter if I'm already rooted (?). Anything at all, other than not receiving Sprint OTA updates?
2) I know there are multiple ways to root. To me, the differences boil down to Unrevoked (one-click) and everything else. I don't mind extra steps if there's reason to perform them. The only "con" that I've found to using Unrevoked (assuming I have a compatible Evo) is if "something goes wrong, you will have a bit more trouble trying to find out what went wrong" ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204 ).
I'm very concerned about having a WiMax radio backup and not losing my keys, and was planning on using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448 as xHausx mentions that explicitly, something I haven't seen very much. There seems to be some confusion that nandroid backups did/didn't backup your radio, or that only certain versions do/did.
Thanks for reading, I appreciate it.
Well im not an expert but this is what i know. First if you do root be prepared to go nuts. Once you get the hang of flashing roms/kernels you might get addicted and be flashing a rom or kernel way too often. Now all roms are basically the same with little differences that dont really matter. One is not better than the other you just have to find the one YOU like best. There are three types of roms. Sense based roms like Myns 2.2 or Fresh Rom. They are basically just like your stock phone with different apps and tweaks than sprint puts in. AOSP roms like Cyanogen Mod or Vaelpak. These are basically stock android (no sense) with little tweaks and apps thrown in. Then there is MIUI Rom which is basically iphones iOS for android phones. I tried all three and went back to sense roms cause everything works. Now for gingerbread. No doubt it will be better and faster than froyo. But it isnt going to be nothing evolutionary or anything. We thought froyo was going to be and its just a little better. Which will probably be the case with every new android update. So if you root you cannot get gingerbread when it is sent OTA, unless you unroot then update your phone. If your rooted you have to wait for the devs hear to cook up a rooted version of gingerbread. Which will take maybe a week after its official release. When i rooted i used unrevoked 3.21. I had to run it twice and it worked no problem. Flashed a rom and was on my way. I would say to use toasts method to root not unrevoked. Only because in order to run cyanogen mod. Which youll have to try. You have to downgrade your hboot to .76. Unrevoked does not do this and yes if you do have issues its kinda hard to figure wat is wrong. I did downgrade my hboot after and everything went fine, but i have seen alot of people having problems doing the way i did. Toasts method does this in the rooting process so youll be able to try any rom as soon as your done. Also youll get familiar with using adb shell, which i still dont know how to use because i used unrevoked. Now with the radios/rsa keys. As long as you dont try to flash a new radio or prl you wont lose your RSA keys. Ive never flashed one and my phone is fine. You dont have to update these. But if you decide you want to. Make sure and use amon ra 1.8 as your recovery and not clockwork mod. Amon will backup your rsa keys when you make your first nandroid backup after rooting and clockwork will not. One thing to remember is just cause some new version of a ROM or kernel or radio or whatever comes out and people are saying its so great doesnt mean it is going to be great on your phone. Some kernels will work great on your phone and suck on mine. If your phone is working great and youve found a rom you love and a kernel that gives you great speed and battery life stick with it. Everytime you flash something..you can have problems. Most are easy to fix by restoring a nandroid or wiping the phone and reflashing the rom. But still its not a good feeling. For instance i run Myns Rom 2.2 RLS3 his new version RLS 4 is out now and everyone says its great. But im sticking with RLS3 because it has the look,feel,speed,battery life i need and want and theres no reason to upgrade. Only when he releases a gingerbread version of his rom. Sounds like you have been doing your research which is good. I studied for a couple months before rooting. Everything in this post is what ive come to understand, but everything in rooting is development so nothing is set in stone. I may not be 100% right on all this stuff jus tryin to help
P.S. i used the videos made by djr3z over at http://www.thedroiddemos.com when i rooted.
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
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This is probably going to sound quite stoopid but I've tried to read up on RUUs and I still don't get it.
So, here's the question:
The original EVO RUU is on file at the XDA wiki
As are copies of each upgrade
Would it be possible on an EVO with either .3 or .6 Froyo to simply start over with the original RUU and then apply each update until at Eclair 1.47?
With the .6 stock rooted rom and the naked bunny 3.7.7 kernel I'm way happy myself, but for those with Froyo and desparate to get to root or for those who are simply too dissatisfied with things like Pandora being kinda broken - is this in any way an option?
I rather doubt it, otherwise I'd expect to have heard about this - but the whole RUU thing confuses me, I've never used (and hope never to use it) so I thought I'd ask.
Asbestos Underoos on, ready to be flamed if this is really that stoopid.
Thanks and cheers.
The RUU's are for upgrading your system, unless you are rooted you will not be able to install an older version than what is on your phone.
OK, many thanks. Promise I tried to search first.
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I've read that if you are using a stock rom and updated to 3.70.651.1 OTA then you don't have the ability to root. Is that true or am I just not understanding what I've read? I'd like to root to take advantage of wifi tethering for free. Also, if I'm free to root, any recommendations for which ROM to use would be appreciated.
Thanks
Nope I'm pretty sure you are good to go. Click me for some quick info I dug up
Best ROMs in my opinion:
Fresh: Sense
Myn's: Sense
CyanogenMod: AOSP
Well...according to this thread, [ROOT][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02/2.10 S-OFF - Got the Game Upset Edition - Updated 12.16.10, it states that if have the newest radio (2.15.00.11.19), it will not work although some have claim they could.
You can root your phone now and then just flash a rooted stock ROM or a custom ROM based on build 3.70.651.1.
You can, they posted a new method tonight....but theres only been one success for someone on 0004 hardware.
Fresh: Sense
Myn's: Sense
CyanogenMod: AOSP
Thanks. I'll check these out. I'll also check out each of the threads posted above, but I guess I'm still a little confused. It seems like you're all saying that it can be done, just with varying levels of success. I have the latest radio (2.15.00.11.19) so it seems like that may limit my options, correct?
Yeah, unfortunately that's just how it is. Take Unrevoked 3.21 for example. It was suppose to be a simple one click method to root the EVO but if you go look at their thread, at least half the people who used it were able to run it succcessfully with no problems at all and the other half ran into some kind of issues.
I successfully (after 3 hours) rooted and upgraded my wife's Samsung Moment to froyo 2.2. and removed a bunch of stuff that'll never get used off her new rom and everything is 100% working!
SD ca
So now that my confidence level is a bit higher now.. I wanted to start on my Evo, it's already been rooted with UnrEVOked and that was a huge step for me!
I rely heavily on my Evo daily and can't afford to brick it, nor can I afford to buy another, so I'm very cautiuos..
Well I decided to upgrade my radio version. It's a very old revision, 1 notch above the original.
I'm still on Android 2.1.
OK... I get the radio upgrade, put it into the root of the SDCard, go into recovery, got everything ready to go.. pushed the button, and I get the error message that the .zip file wasn't compatible with clockworld mod.
and that the .zip file is only good good for android 1.5.
So I need to know where I can get the updated radio version for the clockworld mod???
Am I making any sense?
Thank You for any advice!
EricFi said:
I successfully (after 3 hours) rooted and upgraded my wife's Samsung Moment to froyo 2.2. and removed a bunch of stuff that'll never get used off her new rom and everything is 100% working!
SD ca
So now that my confidence level is a bit higher now.. I wanted to start on my Evo, it's already been rooted with UnrEVOked and that was a huge step for me!
I rely heavily on my Evo daily and can't afford to brick it, nor can I afford to buy another, so I'm very cautiuos..
Well I decided to upgrade my radio version. It's a very old revision, 1 notch above the original.
I'm still on Android 2.1.
OK... I get the radio upgrade, put it into the root of the SDCard, go into recovery, got everything ready to go.. pushed the button, and I get the error message that the .zip file wasn't compatible with clockworld mod.
and that the .zip file is only good good for android 1.5.
So I need to know where I can get the updated radio version for the clockworld mod???
Am I making any sense?
Thank You for any advice!
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I'm not familiar with clockwork mod recovery (it's clockwork), because I use Amon Ra recovery. However, I know there are a few different clockwork mod versions. I'm not sure if they are all compatible with 2.1 or not, but you could try updating your recovery, using ROM manager. Is there a reason you haven't upgraded to Froyo? You should update, unless there's a specific reason you've stayed with 2.1. If I were in your situation, this is what I'd do. Create a nandroid backup. Backup your important stuff. Completely wipe the phone, using your recovery. Flash the most recent radios, from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485 Flash a 2.2 ROM, update your recovery (if you didn't already) Thats just me though.
I'm still looking at the rom lists to see whats on each. I was looking at kings 2.3 but it has no 4g.. i live in a 4g area n want that feature available.. but there's so much to readthru i'm thinking to much into it and confusing myself..
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I'm late on the bandwagon.. my first android phone, Evo4g running GB.
I've had it a few weeks now and also accepted the latest ota a week or two ago.
Hboot 2.16.0001, radio 2.15.00.0008, broadband 2.15.00.0808, kernel 2.6.35.10-g13578ee (or was it cc). Sw 4.53.651.1
what are my chances of rooting and putting on CM71? Base.d on the wiki, it looks like I'm out of luck, even with unrevoked. What about htcdev.net for obtaining s-off?
I'm also confused on how to get back to stock if I ever need to take the phone back (yes, I've read the readfirst doc), including getting rid of cwmod - back to 100% stock. Is there a way to backup my existing rom/kernel/?? and using that as opposed to an older img?
There's just too much info and old threads saying 'latest' to make it confusing. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
As far as what mod to use, I'm anticipating cm71 basically because it looks about the most full featured and stable. I have no idea what 'sense' is other than being htc's launcher. I prefer goLauncherEx so if there's something that sense provides that my underprivileged mind doesn't know about feel free to enlighten me.
thanks tons!!
I second this question, I was given a HTC Evo 4g as a replacement phone from sprint after having 3 Epic 4g's and 2 Nexus S 4g's in 7 months. I would like to root this because it has so many unwanted apps.
Noob wants root? Noob should do some searching first. Answers to literally every question up there are already asked and answered 500 times.
Gusmode said:
I'm late on the bandwagon.. my first android phone, Evo4g running GB.
I've had it a few weeks now and also accepted the latest ota a week or two ago.
Hboot 2.16.0001, radio 2.15.00.0008, broadband 2.15.00.0808, kernel 2.6.35.10-g13578ee (or was it cc). Sw 4.53.651.1
what are my chances of rooting and putting on CM71? Base.d on the wiki, it looks like I'm out of luck, even with unrevoked. What about htcdev.net for obtaining s-off?
I'm also confused on how to get back to stock if I ever need to take the phone back (yes, I've read the readfirst doc), including getting rid of cwmod - back to 100% stock. Is there a way to backup my existing rom/kernel/?? and using that as opposed to an older img?
There's just too much info and old threads saying 'latest' to make it confusing. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
As far as what mod to use, I'm anticipating cm71 basically because it looks about the most full featured and stable. I have no idea what 'sense' is other than being htc's launcher. I prefer goLauncherEx so if there's something that sense provides that my underprivileged mind doesn't know about feel free to enlighten me.
thanks tons!!
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If you have 4.53.651.1, then UnrEVOked should work... not sure on 4.54.651.1, which was the latest OTA security update package, though.
Have you even tried UnrEVOked, yet? Or HTCDEV.com? I would imaging that there is always a way...
ok first of all there are a lot of people here willing to help, but first you need to help yourself. do the research, and find out what method will work to root your phone. then read it at least 3 times. then when you start rooting your phone and get stuck people will be more willing to help. i personally rooted my phone a while ago so i have no idea as to what method would even work for you. second make sure you do a nand back up from your recovery when you get one. that will at least take you back to your stock rom, and to get back to s-on well like i said do the research and read read read. good luck and happy flashing
Here's a hint: WWW.revolutionary.io
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Revolutionary works and will get you rooted, s-off and install a custom recovery in less than 5 min
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Revolutionary is the cat's ass
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With latest ota, use revolutionary like a couple has posted. Unrevoked will not work on the gingerbread firmwares for the EVO. You need revolutionary.
It's simple and straightforward.
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Thanks to all!
The issue was the overabundance of information and trying to weed out the non-current... not that I wasn't searching and reading.
I'm now up and going with synergy RLS1 (non-godmode)+chopsuey9.2.7+Amon RA Style Supersonic recovery 3.07.
Again, thanks for the assist!
right on glad you made it even if you were late to the party have fun and remember to make a back up and wipe wipe wipe happy flashing
Hello one and all!
So I have been playing with new ROM's for my EVO Supersonic. My Daily Driver is AlienwareMod Solar Flare Series V and LOVE it!
So I have been given an old EVO was going to play with it and explore new ROM's. I had rooted it about 2 years ago and she kept stock Sense on it so for some reason I left S-On. Although I am unlocked in the bootloader, and I have been reading on several forums that I dont need to have S Off anymore to load a rom, I seem to be having a common problem that I have been reading about. I can load custom ROM's on just fine, but when I fire up the WiFi the system slows down, and the WiFi cant lock on to a SSID. know the SSID sites are good and I have been trying to narrow donn the problem and have it down to these...
1. I need to achieve S-Off. Although I have many of files for when I did my personal root/unlock I dont have the all and MikMik's site dosnt have hem anymore.
2. I have partitiond a small 2G SD card with Ext3. The Kernel may not tolerate this? I have the stock Lionfish on but have tried others with no sccess on Ext2, Ext3 or Ext4 formatting.
3. I have not 'actvated' the phone on my Sprint Account. Is there maybe some files it would need to download?
4. Recovery. I am using ZZzRemove to really clean the phone... and use the 'Stock" ammon Ra to wipe x3. I prefer SmelMod but cant load a new recovery becuase it locks with a message PC360IMG Parcing.
5. HBOOT 2.18. I think i remember something about how this was locked??
I am thinking I will need to do a RUU to get an earlier version of HBOOT in order to get SOFF. But again, is that mission critical to getting the WiFi to work?
So I am stuck with a bit of a mental bootloop! Any thoughts would be welcome! Screenshots will be loaded of my Recovery and Bootloader upon request......
Thanks!
Your issue sounds like it could be hardware-related. Whether or not you're S-off should have no bearing on how well WiFi works. S-off simply means that the bootloader security is off and should not affect how or when WiFi works. As far as the files needed to gain S-off, shoot @Captain_Throwback a PM. He was the OP of the thread over on the MikMik page regarding rooting & S-off with the latest Hboot. As far as running a older RUU, you won't be able to since you're S-on.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
I recommend this site/guide: http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...-rooting-gingerbread-2-3-5-dummies-guide.html
All the files you need should be there. As for the WiFi issue, that seems to be more device than software related. Being unlocked versus S-OFF won't affect your WiFi signal.
First of all it is an honor to have you reply Captain! I have been going over a lot of posts on here for a few years and have seen much of your handywork. I know the link you sent very well, that is what I used to Root/Rom my Daily Driver Evo with great success!
I will go back and revisit it again, but according to all the comments so far, I wont need S-Off since I wont be doing too many flashes. What is keeping me from just running the Revolutionary Utility is because it seems the S-Off utility requres HBOOT 2.16 or lower.
If I could, a few thoughts. I know that S-Off doesnt driectly affect the WiFi but I was curious if it was a Kernel issue and I have read that you cannot load a kernel successfully without a custorm, quality recovery and you cannot load a recovery without S-Off. I know when I had the phone at first I could jump on WiFi's easy-peasy... but when I loaded any ROMS (Sense, non Sense, JB variants etc etc.) the WiFi's just wont fire up or connect.
Ironicly, I was messing with the phone with a Odexed Sense Rom (rooted stock) it did connect today (after giving hassle for 2 days I just put it down and left it for a while). Maybe I am just being impatient? I have read that sometimes new ROM's and kernels take a few days to 'settle' in. Sorta like the Matrix!!
As an asside.. .and not part of this thread..... With Kit Kat using ART and not Devalk is there hope new life with these older phones?
Thanks to all!
Unidave199 said:
First of all it is an honor to have you reply Captain! I have been going over a lot of posts on here for a few years and have seen much of your handywork. I know the link you sent very well, that is what I used to Root/Rom my Daily Driver Evo with great success!
I will go back and revisit it again, but according to all the comments so far, I wont need S-Off since I wont be doing too many flashes. What is keeping me from just running the Revolutionary Utility is because it seems the S-Off utility requres HBOOT 2.16 or lower.
If I could, a few thoughts. I know that S-Off doesnt driectly affect the WiFi but I was curious if it was a Kernel issue and I have read that you cannot load a kernel successfully without a custorm, quality recovery and you cannot load a recovery without S-Off. I know when I had the phone at first I could jump on WiFi's easy-peasy... but when I loaded any ROMS (Sense, non Sense, JB variants etc etc.) the WiFi's just wont fire up or connect.
Ironicly, I was messing with the phone with a Odexed Sense Rom (rooted stock) it did connect today (after giving hassle for 2 days I just put it down and left it for a while). Maybe I am just being impatient? I have read that sometimes new ROM's and kernels take a few days to 'settle' in. Sorta like the Matrix!!
As an asside.. .and not part of this thread..... With Kit Kat using ART and not Devalk is there hope new life with these older phones?
Thanks to all!
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You can install a custom recovery without being S-off. You can install it from the SD card via the bootloader or by using fastboot commands. From there you can flash a custom kernel. You obviously have a custom recovery installed already if you are flashing ROM's. I never flashed any custom kernels on my EVO when I ran Sense, but it helps to read the OP of any ROM or kernel thread to make sure that there aren't any issues with Wifi functionality. Do you have issues with a particular router you're trying to connect to or just Wifi in general? Did you have issues with WiFi when the phone was totally stock?
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FinZ28 said:
You can install a custom recovery without being S-off. You can install it from the SD card via the bootloader or by using fastboot commands. From there you can flash a custom kernel. You obviously have a custom recovery installed already if you are flashing ROM's. I never flashed any custom kernels on my EVO when I ran Sense, but it helps to read the OP of any ROM or kernel thread to make sure that there aren't any issues with Wifi functionality. Do you have issues with a particular router you're trying to connect to or just Wifi in general? Did you have issues with WiFi when the phone was totally stock?
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
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Great questions! Let me give you some answers!!
I rooted this phone about 2 years ago so dont remember all of my handywork. It is running
*****UNLOCKED******
HBoot- 2.18.0001
Radio - 2.15.00.12.19
Dec 21 2011
I probably used Revolution to do so. I did it with mine! When I got this phone a month ago, I factory reset it and Launched WiFi with no problems. I was using my home router which has had no problems with any other devices.
Only when I started to flash a ROM (I have tried team DIRT unofficial 4.2.2 as well as Thundershock, Nitro, and Jellybread) they all would load fine and be responsive until I tried to launch the WiFi and then it would either be stuck on scanning, or just drop out and then the operating system becomes unstable.
I then went back to a Sense Odexed Stock Gingerbread ROM and although I saw the WiFI launch and connect, it would drop out every few minutes.
I couldnt make a Nandroid since the recovery doesnt have that option. I am using RA-supersonice-v2.3 with ZZZVR_SUPERWIPE to flash.
I cant seem to load any other recoveries. I thought it was because I am still S-ON. It says Main Version is Older Update Fail! And that is using the RA-supersonic-v4.3-smelkusMOD
Any thoughts? I am willing to accept bad hardware, but seems like a weird coincidence that all of a sudden the WiFi would drop out.
Answered my own question
Update!
Well I have successfully ported my operating system to the new(er) EVO 4G that I got from my friend. Looks like I needed to contact Sprint and have them help me reset the PRL and MEID. The problem was I had to quick flash a Sense ROM in order to use the dial pad to input all the codes.
After that, I seems the ROM (Solar Flare Series V) is much more stable, and I think everyone else is right, the hardware may have issues since the Bluetooth and the WiFi seem to be dropping in and out.
And so... looks like I may load this up with a Media Based ROM to act as an entertainment device and looking to go jump on a Samsung Note 3.
If only I could somehow install a LTE receiver chip! Maybe I will post that question as a new thread.