This event I flashed my husbands HD2 to android. it works perfectly. I want my pt2 fully working on android as well. Not together with wm on an sd card. But a complete rom.
I just cannot find the right rom. Who can help me ?
wennes13 said:
This event I flashed my husbands HD2 to android. it works perfectly. I want my pt2 fully working on android as well. Not together with wm on an sd card. But a complete rom.
I just cannot find the right rom. Who can help me ?
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There isn't an android rom for tp2.
NAND BOOT is the closest you can get at this moment.
Indeed, HD2 is significantly different piece of hardware than the TP2.
Christiaan91 said:
There isn't an android rom for tp2.
NAND BOOT is the closest you can get at this moment.
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May sound like a dummie, but what I don't quite understand what Nand Boot is.
Correct me if i'm wrong.
NAND boot uses a very lite version of winmo, only for booting into android. So i believe you allmost can't do anything in winmo, but only booting android.
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Christiaan91 said:
Correct me if i'm wrong.
NAND boot uses a very lite version of winmo, only for booting into android. So i believe you allmost can't do anything in winmo, but only booting android.
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Not really. NAND boot basically means replacing WinMo. So no WinMo whatsoever - there's a bootloader called TinBoot that's open source - it's what the Vogue used for its bootloader. HD2 uses a proprietary one called magldr.
NAND just means we're taking over the internal memory on the phone, instead of booting anything off of the SD card. Our NAND currently is technically only partial - most of the stuff still resides on the SD card, very little is placed on internal memory. initrd and rootfs I think are it... Not positive on what is being placed on the NAND at present - I know the data.img and system.ext2 file are still on the SD tho
Christiaan91 said:
There isn't an android rom for tp2.
NAND BOOT is the closest you can get at this moment.
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I do not understand, after the successful NAND BOOT what to do when you start running android phone, I tried downloading the android on the copy to memory card without success
alo_tongdaiday said:
I do not understand, after the successful NAND BOOT what to do when you start running android phone, I tried downloading the android on the copy to memory card without success
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I wouldn't use NAND at this stage, it's very experimental and not quite as polished as haret - but it's making great progress.
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Hi guys i need more space for apps, Can root be reversed i.e reset the whole phone like it was oringinally?
I got my phone last tuesday and all i want it apps2sd, do i have change the HTC firmware or does that stay and it hacks it and allows me to added apps2sd option?
Also am i able to restore it back to original ? if i brick it while trying to do this is there way to unbrick?
thank you from an andriod newbie
I've just flashed the apps2sd update over on the original firmware after rooting and the phones constantly rebooting at the quietly brilliant screen
technocat said:
I've just flashed the apps2sd update over on the original firmware after rooting and the phones constantly rebooting at the quietly brilliant screen
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really, are you able to revert to original state?
managed to install custom rom with apps2sd on it and its working after 3rd attempt thank god! Apps2sd aint working on the rom either though (Pays-ROM Desire with Sense v1.4)...dont know whats going on.....wonder if its cause its an ext4 extension?.....
My advice to anyone is to NOT install APPS2SD, just wait for an official FroYo build to be leaked and installed on the Desire. It's full of issues at the moment.
Agreed. Wait for your sweeties
managed to install custom rom with apps2sd on it and its working after 3rd attempt thank god! Apps2sd aint working on the rom either though (Pays-ROM Desire with Sense v1.4)...dont know whats going on.....wonder if its cause its an ext4 extension?.....
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Ext4 is not supported
My advice to anyone is to NOT install APPS2SD, just wait for an official FroYo build to be leaked and installed on the Desire. It's full of issues at the moment.
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A2sd works fine, but it has a lot of downfalls. here are some examples:
not easy for beginners
Sd cards have to be in the device to boot
Cannot access apps with sd card mounted
Access to apps can be laggy due to card transfer rates
Etc....
If you guys are new to android, you're probably in the "download everything" phase. It's not realistic to keep every single thing. Be reasonable and you should be fine.
A2sd will be a thing of the past once 1gb+ roms become the norm.
eViL D: said:
A2sd works fine, but it has a lot of downfalls. here are some examples:
not easy for beginners
Sd cards have to be in the device to boot
Cannot access apps with sd card mounted
Access to apps can be laggy due to card transfer rates
Etc....
If you guys are new to android, you're probably in the "download everything" phase. It's not realistic to keep every single thing. Be reasonable and you should be fine.
A2sd will be a thing of the past once 1gb+ roms become the norm.
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Or when FroYo is released
I still don't know how they'll manage to get APPS running from a FAT partitioned SDCARD?
How will they manage to make the Sdcard usable for apps and readable by Windows and other operating systems which don't support ext2/3?
abc27 said:
How will they manage to make the Sdcard usable for apps and readable by Windows and other operating systems which don't support ext2/3?
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Correct me if Im wrong, but the only reason you have to use ext filesystems for A2SD is because that is what the 2.1 expects??
I can't see why you would need an ext filesystem for the APK files. The 'special' permissions on apps are not provided by the filesystem. Maybe cache and app data would require some level of security, but at least the APKs should happily live on FAT32.
Fingers crossed! I hope they sort something out.
Excellent advice, eViL D: I was a bit nervous about trying and Android phone in the first place but took the plunge due to the fantastic reviews on the Desire. I absolutely love this phone and I managed to root it without any problems. Fortunately I read about the A2SD issues before I installed it. Whew!!!
Being a complete newbie to Android, I am in the 'keep everything' phase but am starting to realise that there are a lot of apps that I simply don't need and probably won't use very often anyway. I reckon that if I find that I need them later, then I'll install them then. I've gotten rid of a number of apps and am really happy with the phone as it is. For now, I'm going to leave well enough alone. Will definitely keep an eye on the A2SD issue more out of curiosity than the need to use it.
I really wish I had the knowledge to help solve this problem and wish everyone who is working on it the best of luck.
I originally posted this in the Q/A section but no one seemed to have any reasonable answer.
Is it possible to partition my SD card so I can have baked snack on 1 half and CM6 on the other with all their user options ect.... saved to that respective side of the card? I'm not really wanting a true dual boot here but I would like to maybe nand backup my backed snack save it to backed snack's partition. Then flash cm6 and kernel ect.. and already have all my apps settings in place. Or maybe even partition the internal mem so we could have a true dual boot. Is it possible to partition the internal mem and perhaps mess around with the boot loader in order choose which partition you will be booting from?
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I originally posted this in the Q/A section but no one seemed to have any reasonable answer.
Is it possible to partition my SD card so I can have baked snack on 1 half and CM6 on the other with all their user options ect.... saved to that respective side of the card? I'm not really wanting a true dual boot here but I would like to maybe nand backup my backed snack save it to backed snack's partition. Then flash cm6 and kernel ect.. and already have all my apps settings in place. Or maybe even partition the internal mem so we could have a true dual boot. Is it possible to partition the internal mem and perhaps mess around with the boot loader in order choose which partition you will be booting from?
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Did you try using both NAND and Titanium backups? If you make two backups, one for each ROM, you should be able to recover everything fairly easily when you want to go back and forth.
I suppose it would be possible. Stuff would load pretty slow though and you'd have to manually create such a setup. I haven't looked at the bootstrapping, but I can't think of any reason you couldn't mount the data heavy positions from the sdcard. Not easy by most people though.
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i asked for this a few months back and was told to just use rom manager. make backups of both roms and just use that to go between them. dual booting isnt possible with our boot loader.
OP, without getting too "techy", what's being overlooked is the fact that you'd have to get into the BIOS itself end change where it loads the os from for it to work.
Also, in theory, with the os running from the SD card, things like mounting the phone as a disk drive would be impossible without turning the phone off, and that would just suck...
It's a cool idea, but I think having everything draw from.one source would make it lag like hell even, so I dunno.... I don't really get your reasoning behind switching between different roms on a constant basis, but I'd think about the cons too
All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!
ricersniper said:
i asked for this a few months back and was told to just use rom manager. make backups of both roms and just use that to go between them. dual booting isnt possible with our boot loader.
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Sure, but what if they shared the initrd and that was what promoted for the selection?
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I did this with my tp2 had winnow and android on. Had Haret.exe worked great just used a explorer to SD card clicked and loaded up. Also had dual bootup at startup. Picked which rom I wanted to run. Was indeed nice.
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Not to get off op topic but how do you get rid off the nand backups on the phone. Have a few on roms I don't use anymore.
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you can get rid of backups a few ways if you use rom manager you can just go to manage and retore roms long clikc it and select delete. if you dont use rom manager youc an set your device to disck drive while hooked up tot he pc and manually navigate to the back up and delete it.
In reality, you could make as many NAND backups as you want, and restore any of of them from recovery whenever you want!
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Did you try using both NAND and Titanium backups? If you make two backups, one for each ROM, you should be able to recover everything fairly easily when you want to go back and forth.
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Would you not need to constantly update the nand backups?
Also...if I were to do this with say CM6 and something else...would I have 4G issues from flipping back and forth? I know CM6 doesn't have 4G and want to make sure it's just missing, not that it messed with the radio.
Alrigh then I guess I'll just give up on this and do it the old fashion way with band and titanium back ups. Am I going to need the full version of titanium for this? Will it make the whole process alot quicker?
Is it possible to have multiple ROMs on one phone at the same time? (no nandroid)
This is not (yet) been developed. There is a way to boot from sd card, but I readed that a long time ago, not sure if thats been developed for daily basis use.
For now, you have to use the nandroid way to boot another rom.
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yes android can be booted from a sd card, just like it is on wm phones
Would love to see my device multi-booting other OS'
Hi there,
I understand it is possible to boot another android version from the SD card.
Now can another OS be booted, such as WM mobile or Windows Phone 7?
Here is a pre-made Haret install of Fat Free Froyo RLS5 Odex'd (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819082) for those like me who had problems finding everything and getting it up and running.
For the KTC Kaiser with panel type 2. This build is optimized for a 512 MB SD card (instructions for changing SD card size below).
Simply extract the zip file to your SD card, safely remove the card, stick it in the phone and run Haret from the /andboot folder.
For different size SD cards, simply edit install-seq.sh in notepad to change all instances of the number 524288 to the correct size, e.g. for a 1GB SD card, do 1*1024*1024 = 1048576, so 1048576 is the number you change it to. Same goes for 2 GB 2*1024*1024 and so on.
DOWNLOAD FAT FREE FROYO RLS5 ODEX HARET BOOT
Thanks for this, nice hassle-free way to get things onto SD.
It's eating my battery something fierce, though, and battery calibration doesn't seem to work either.
Could be my setup though (stock 6.0 ROM due to needing it to work with my RedFly and stock 1.2something radio, which isn't supposed to work well with Android builds), but I'm wondering if you happen to know which kernel this uses?
Holy Bear said:
Thanks for this, nice hassle-free way to get things onto SD.
It's eating my battery something fierce, though, and battery calibration doesn't seem to work either.
Could be my setup though (stock 6.0 ROM due to needing it to work with my RedFly and stock 1.2something radio, which isn't supposed to work well with Android builds), but I'm wondering if you happen to know which kernel this uses?
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Major Requirement:
HardSPL v3.29 (recommended for flashing NAND kernel through SD)
Radio version 1.65 or higher
The lower radio version will cause unusual behavior. Hyperdragon IV Mega WM6.1 comes with Radio version 1.65, you can flash it after having hardSPL 3.29 on your phone. Then just proceed with froyo
dark_prince said:
Major Requirement:
HardSPL v3.29 (recommended for flashing NAND kernel through SD)
Radio version 1.65 or higher
The lower radio version will cause unusual behavior.
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Thanks for the reply.
Because I'm stuck with WM6.0 for the RedFly, I´m trying to figure out whether flashing the 1.65 Radio will cause problems with WM6.0.
But yeah, I figured the 1.27 Radio was part of Android sucking batterylife like a vampire...
Holy Bear said:
Thanks for the reply.
Because I'm stuck with WM6.0 for the RedFly, I´m trying to figure out whether flashing the 1.65 Radio will cause problems with WM6.0.
But yeah, I figured the 1.27 Radio was part of Android sucking batterylife like a vampire...
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Install HYPERDRAGON IV Mega WM6.1 (after having HARDSPL v3.29), You will automatically get a WM6.1 with 1.65 Radio version
dark_prince said:
Install HYPERDRAGON IV Mega WM6.1 (after having HARDSPL v3.29), You will automatically get a WM6.1 with 1.65 Radio version
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No, see, that's the problem: I need the 6.0 ROM to have the Kaiser work with my RedFly.
The 6.1 ROMs have all given me trouble after installing the RedFly app.
I guess the point is: I could get a 6.1 ROM with a 1.65+ Radio and probably have better results with Android.
But right now I need it to work with my RedFly (it's my only mobile that works well with it, and I have others for Android if I really want that) and that only seems to be flawless with WM6.0
I could check it with WM6.0 with a 1.65+ Radio, but I'm fairly sure that those two don't mix.
For all I know the RedFly app might actually not play well with 1.65+ Radios.
Works only on Windows OS ? if i want to chance my version of android from linux(ony my phone) ? i need the KaisIMG.nbh ? (and the kaisdiag.nbh)
im flashing my phone whit the sdcard from android to android and use the kaisdiag.nbh, i don't know if is necesary file, but i reboot the phone froim android, and hold the Dpad, and instal the new system. And works !
i think i can change the kernel for overclock to 495Mhrz and works fine, what you think?
greetings
sicstifor said:
im flashing my phone whit the sdcard from android to android and use the kaisdiag.nbh, i don't know if is necesary file, but i reboot the phone froim android, and hold the Dpad, and instal the new system. And works !
i think i can change the kernel for overclock to 495Mhrz and works fine, what you think?
greetings
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Probably all possible, but this post is meant as a complete set of files to install FFF to boot from the SD-card with Haret.
So this post isn't meant for what you're trying to do, I think.
Still, installing this build by renaming it KaisIMG.nbh and placing it in the root of your SD-card for flashing is probably what you describe as working.
works, and still works, but no wifi-camera (on the older rom for droid he works) , ._. anyway, i test any versions and i never find a stable version for my kaiser, on WinMo works really fine, on android works fine for a shor time
Some android roms stable?
This process will erase windows mobile? I would like to try it!
Hello Mark from Rome
Battery issues solved with this rom
For me 2.6.25 kernel solved the battery issues with radio 1.70.19.09 (that radio also enabled camera to work). Took me 2-3 days to find out...
Thanks, big help!
I am trying to make the data connection work, any tips?
Tried already: lots of radios, connect data in WM before starting haret, different kernels from dzo, l1q1, and so on...
download link is dead..can someone please post a new one?
thanx
I'm wondering if it's possible on a native Android device like the Evo to install and boot Android from the SD card?
It might brick the phone because its from a totally different device, and I doubt youll be able to use data or some of your hardware because of the radios. But you can probably root the device you want the android from, make a nandroid, and if it had an sd card switch it to the phone you want it on and have it rooted so you can flash the nandroid
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vbetts said:
I'm wondering if it's possible on a native Android device like the Evo to install and boot Android from the SD card?
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I don't think the post above mine is what you had in mind. I'm assuming you're thinking of running Android from the SD card like was done with some of the old WinMo devices. The answer is that it could be done in principle, but I don't think anyone's done the work to enable it on the Evo. There are a couple use cases where it could be useful (AOSP user booting into Sense to update PRL). But I don't think it's been something that's gathered much interest from the devs.
vbetts said:
I'm wondering if it's possible on a native Android device like the Evo to install and boot Android from the SD card?
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This is being done on the Nook Color currently. However, I don't believe the Evo has the capability to boot from sd card, whereas the Nook actually gives boot priority to the sd card. It's pretty slick actually. My wife's Nook is bone stock internally for reading, but running CM7 & Honeycomb from an 8gb sd card.