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Just got my desire friday. It's awesome! But the lags are killing me! I'd like JIT, SetCPU, power managment, cool themes and better music player, that's all! It should be easy, just to hack android to get access to ROOT...
But seriously, I don't want to lose any settings and apps I've set-up. Also the process is complicated, and there is nothing like "one click ROOT access". Although I already have Android SDK(for testing purposes), I am maybe just a bit lazy
So what do you think, to root or not to root.
had to bump so fast!? is here anyone reading this?!
Desire forums seem kinda dead today. Everyone's probably got the World Cup fever lol
I personally would say no, but that's my opinion - I wouldn't wanna risk bricking my new device, I should also say though that I have no previous Android experience, so I don't know about you. So I'm waiting, hopefully an official release isn't too far off, and if my carrier doesn't release it quick, I will be goldcarding
I would go ahead and do it, even though the above poster stated that there is a strong possibility of bricking your device, this is true, but there have been recent developments made for this kind of issue - there are now complete guides in the ROM dev section detailing how to unbrick your device, or even run recovery from your phone without connecting to the PC lessening your chances of bricking it, and there is a Recovery mod also, so I would say it's safe to go ahead and root/flash.
Ok il'll try it, but i have some questions:
Will I lose any data or applications? I can't backup, I have 1gb left on my hdd.
Will I have to do factory or soft reset after flashing to custom rom?
Does flashing relace or "update" the system?
Is desire really having the CPU clocked at 1ghz or is it 720mhz like in HD2? Will overclocking it to 1ghz make the battery last less? How much then? Can you overclocking the graphics chip?
Thank you in advance.
Dany0 said:
Ok il'll try it, but i have some questions:
Will I lose any data or applications? I can't backup, I have 1gb left on my hdd.
Will I have to do factory or soft reset after flashing to custom rom?
Does flashing relace or "update" the system?
Is desire really having the CPU clocked at 1ghz or is it 720mhz like in HD2? Will overclocking it to 1ghz make the battery last less? How much then? Can you overclocking the graphics chip?
Thank you in advance.
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Yes, if you attempt to a flash a custom rom that includes Apps2SD/A2SD, then you should backup the data on your SD card. The reason for this is because, with many (if not all) custom roms, excluding the Froyo roms, come with Apps2SD baked/cookef into the rom, requiring you to partition the SD card (which will also format your SD card, wiping everything) after flashing a custom rom. new rom then this will remove all data and apps, but nothing will be deleted on the sd card. I suggest you try backing up your sd card data to some storage media before attempting root and flashing to another rom.
You will notice that before flashing the rom of your choice, it is advised to wipe storage, cache, etc before flashing in recovery mode. After flashing, you can always perform a hard reset if you like, especially if you encounter any niggling bugs.
Yes, flashing will replace your stock rom image with the custom rom image.
You can flash Richard Trip's modified kernal, which allows you to perform undervolting and overclocking of the processor to run at faster or slower speeds. Overclocking will result in better performance but drain the battery quicker, Underclocking will save battery life.
Please read the second link in my sig for an in-depth explanation for rooting, flashing, and Apps2SD.
Note: if your phone is network branded then you will also be required a Gold Card and have an additional Micro SD card.
Note: if your rom comes with Apps2SD preinstalled, then do not install Apps2SD, only partition your sd card after flashing thr rom while still in recovery mode.
The process is:
Backup
Create Gold Card (if necessary)
Root
Place rom in root of sd card
Boot into recovery
Wipe everything
Flash rom in recovery
Partition sd card in recovery
Reboot
Restore backup to sd card.
That's all just too complicated, why is there no wizard application for it? I may make one, but it's still too complicated.
Can't you just open up cmd and type login: root pass: root?
To be honest, it's not too complicated, daunting at first, but when you read the nimbu guide (see my sig for Windows only method) for example, it makes perfect sense and it easy to follow. Just try it step-by-step and you will do it no probs.
All you have to remember is...
Dont install Apps2SD if it is already included in the custom rom you want to flash.
Create a Gold Card only if your phone is software branded. If it is generic, then you will not require a Gold Card.
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Ok I get myself a class 6(maybe class 10) 8gb card and try it, then I'll pick up wxPython and try to make a wizard
Just to add, for the Gold Card itself, you dont need to buy a large capacity sd card, even a 2GB one will do fine.
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I will gold card my old Nokia 5310 2gb card(although it has some undeletable extras... hmm..) or the one shipped with the phone. I want a lot space for movies, music and apps. So 8GB will be fine.
And most importantly I don't want ANY lag. **** driving me NUTS!
EDIT:
Just saw the tut again, hey this should be easy! K going on...
Dany0 said:
I will gold card my old Nokia 5310 2gb card(although it has some undeletable extras... hmm..) or the one shipped with the phone. I want a lot space for movies, music and apps. So 8GB will be fine.
And most importantly I don't want ANY lag. **** driving me NUTS!
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Just saw the tut again, hey this should be easy! K going on...
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Ok matey, that sounds absolutely fine. You could even go for a Class 2 SD Card. I currently have a Transcend 8GB Class 6 but to be honest, I have not really noticed any differences in speed with the applications.
Yes, it's not so bad when you read the guide first, it's looks a lot at first but it's just because all the steps are appropriately broken down, which makes things easier to understand. Give it a stab and if you get any problems, just post back here and I will help you out, if necessary.
Good luck
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It's awesome! But the lags are killing me!
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is it a branded phone?
I have no lag
in future froyo 2.2 will there be root option?
I doubt it, HTC and Google would not want to have you "hacking" their phones... not that we do that on XDA
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jimlad said:
is it a branded phone?
I have no lag
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unbranded
lagging everywhere, menus, camera, gallery, videos, games(especially), apps, market, browser, settings, sdcard explorer, music player, and when you swipe over the trackball in home screens fast... LAG
Okay I got stuck at error 170, where do I download the drivers? I don't even know which do I need, do I need the HTC Sync or what? Or should I uninstall some drivers?
thanks
Yes, you need HTC Sync installed (this is on your sd card or you can download the latest version via HTC website). Also, ensure that you have USB debugging enabled (Menu > Settings > Applications > Development).
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Hi All,
my 2p worth (for what it's worth)
I rooted my desire and installed apps2sd and all was going well, until I discovered dust (a lot)under my screen and it has to go back to voda.
As there still isnt an RUU for voda uk I have had to install a generic wwe rom. It took me 6 hrs, and the fantastic help I received at modaco, to unroot and reflash the rom.
To say it was brown trouser time is an understatement lol
The only reason I rooted was for apps2sd and seeing as FroYo is going to include that facility, I don't think I will root again in the future.
I'm not saying don't root, but just make sure you can unroot if you need to.
I hope this helps?
Daz.
I rooted the same day it came out but only because i wanted paid apps available. And now its there i definately do not wanted to unroot
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got 155 unkown error
What!?
EDIT:
not bricked.... phew
EDIT2:
Okay got to the wiping, tried to do the flash but it said I had no zip file on the sd card, so I thought that in the end I need a goldcard, btw can someone tell me what happens if you have branded phone but no goldcard? thanks, so back to what I was writing, so I downloadedthe hex editor, almost got to inserting the image, when i remembered that I already formatted the card already... boom! Of course it wasn't there! soo.. loading up hoping that FAT32 is still okay...
EDIT3:
phew... ROOTING!! yay ^^
Hi all, my first post here, i cant help it but i am nearly 65, bald and retired !.
I treated myself to a Desire last week, un-branded, £10 month with Tescos.
I have been Rooted a few days now, i want to Flash a Rom next, but with so many out there, where do i start ?.
At a guess i do believe i should try CyanogenMOD 7 , but please bear in mind i am completely new to this Smartphone business and i am slow in picking things up, so is "CM7" a bit too much for my grey matter, or am i putting obsticles in the way that dont really exist !
I was very pleased with my faultless rooting, and i have rehearsed the Rom Flashing continuosly using Rom Manager which looks as if it does all the dirty work for me.
If there is a ROM for noobies i havent found it yet !!!!
Tim
You don't have to be a expert to use Cyanogenmod but i would say it's more complicated then something like Leedroid. If you flash the nonA2SD version you have nothing else to worry about, like partitioning your sd card.
One important thing to realize is that Cyanogenmod and Sense rom's are quite different, is there a particulate reason you mention Cyanogenmod? Because if there is you might as well learn how to use it from the beginning.
Also don't forget to make a nandroid (backup in rom manager) before you flash a other rom.
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You don't have to be a expert to use Cyanogenmod but i would say it's more complicated then something like Leedroid. If you flash the nonA2SD version you have nothing else to worry about, like partitioning your sd card.
One important thing to realize is that Cyanogenmod and Sense rom's are quite different, is there a particulate reason you mention Cyanogenmod? Because if there is you might as well learn how to use it from the beginning.
Also don't forget to make a nandroid (backup in rom manager) before you flash a other rom.
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Hi Mr Ghost, i am well pleased somebody replied, CM7 is simply the one that crops up the most. The word Sense, does this by any chance mean HTC Sense ? so if a Rom doesnt have Sense that must mean it doesnt have many or any of the features that make my current ROM more friendly to use.
If CM7 doesnt have SENSE does that mean that the keyboard doent do Landscape mode ?
LEEDROID yeah i could have a go at that one, TA ......... i dont really want to have to partition my SD card, i read about a Goldcard if you partition etc. which doesnt sound v. good.
O yes, i found that Rom Manager Backs Up my original ROM and Wipes, does it ONLY wipe the phones memory ?
thanks for you help
tim
Yes Sense means HTC Sense and you will lose some of the features, but not the landscape keyboard. However i would say HTC Sense makes the android introduction a bit easier and user friendly.
A goldcard is not the same as a card with a ext partition, but as long as you don't run in to space issues there is no need to partition your sd card.
Yes the wipes will only affect the phone memory, the sd card is untouched. Contacts are backed up with gmail but stuff like apps, sms, wireless settings ect is lost unless you back them up yourself. (Titanium backup)
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Yes Sense means HTC Sense and you will lose some of the features, but not the landscape keyboard. However i would say HTC Sense makes the android introduction a bit easier and user friendly.
A goldcard is not the same as a card with a ext partition, but as long as you don't run in to space issues there is no need to partition your sd card.
Yes the wipes will only affect the phone memory, the sd card is untouched. Contacts are backed up with gmail but stuff like apps, sms, wireless settings ect is lost unless you back them up yourself. (Titanium backup)
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Thanks, so it is LEEDROID for starters thanks buddy, i still dont know what a Goldcard is though, perhaps i dont need to know LOL.
One small problem, LEEDROID isnt available in the list of roms in Rom Manager, i suppose i shall have download it "manually" and get it in the relevant Rom Manager Folder, great sorted i should be able to do that.
I have Titanium Backup Pro as well so its best if i Backup "All user apps" that should be sufficient, yeah ? and itll be no good Backing up ANYTHING ELSE, becuase if restored it would mess up LEEDROID, am i correct with that assumption ?
tim
Yes i would say start with Leedroid.
Best thing is to only back up user apps, i never back up anything else. Most likely it will mess something up.
The goldcard is only needed when using a RUU with branded devices, for normal flashing you don't need one.
Just download the Leedroid noA2SD version and put in on your sd, not in any folder just on the sd. Then in rom manager go to install rom form sd and find the zip file.
Edit: looks like the site went down, here's another link. http://db.tt/FBKcMZD
Thanks for that info pal, youre a star.
I havent seen any mention on this site (although i havent searched for it yet) of the battery not lasting very long, however, off topic i suppose, and you can bollock me for that if you like,:-
for internet on my Desire at home i always use my home WiFi, my off topic question is, does WiFi take more out of the battery than using my Providers GSM/WCDMA connection ? i have hardly made a dent on my Providers Data allowance.
tim
What uses more power depends a bit on how strong your 3g signal is, if it's weak it will probably use more power on mobile data and if it's strong, wifi will use more data but this is no gonne make a significant difference on your battery life.
Usually the battery life gets better after some time, also let your battery drain once until the phone powers itself off and then charge it, while it's off, till it's full. Then use it normally again.
Absolutely brilliant Pal, thanks for sticking with me answering my questions for the last hour or two, it was really good of you thanks.
I will definitely try that with my battery next time it needscharging up, thanks.
I will report back tommorrow whether or not i still have a fully functioning phone, LOL. i feel far more confident about "doing it" now, afterall i'm not likely to be "doing it" with anything else ROFL !!!
tim
phew i had difficulty in locating the file, i eventually found the Leedroid Rom here
http://leedroid.com/bravo-roms
I also saw a "radio" file for the same Rom, dam, i have downloaded the latest version and will put it on my SD card the same place as the Rom file in the ROOT directory.
Until i got an Android Phone, i had only used Windows in all it's various versions, of course in Windows, the word ROOT simply means the Top (or bottom?) of the Folder Tree
but of course the same word can mean several hundred pounds when getting it wrong
PS.. do i need to do anything with this extra feature:-
•Re-added “Mod install location” to No A2SD build•
Tim
Root of the sd means not in a folder.
If you are currently on android 2.2 there is no real need to change radio. If you do change radio make sure you are absolutely sure what you are doing.
And you shouldn't have anything to do regarding the mod installation location.
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Thanks that is what i was trying to say !.
Ok on the other two things, ta
Tim
Leedroid Flashed yippee
Thanks for all your help Mr Ghost, i am happily using the Leedroid Rom now, all went smoothly, the battery is still going down preety quickly, i am getting a new battery from HTC any day now, which may perform better than my original ?, but at least i shall have a spare LOL.
Tim
Cheers, another noob reassured. Don't have the excuse of even being close to 65.
I'll be going for the other, with the sd-card option.
Any pittfals I should be aware of?
germsandbugs said:
Cheers, another noob reassured. Don't have the excuse of even being close to 65.
I'll be going for the other, with the sd-card option.
Any pittfals I should be aware of?
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Backup your sd first, and remember to make an external partition if you want it to work with any a2sd rom!
williamj1 said:
Backup your sd first, and remember to make an external partition if you want it to work with any a2sd rom!
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Hey, yeah i used the NON A2SD version and i must say it was very easy, i already had the market version of A2SD pro anyway, which works very well, if it causes so much more extra bovver, having to Partition the SD Card !, with the A2SD included in the Rom, why bother ?
What is the advantage, if any, of having this App on a Rom ?
tim
timmy toad said:
Hey, yeah i used the NON A2SD version and i must say it was very easy, i already had the market version of A2SD pro anyway, which works very well, if it causes so much more extra bovver, having to Partition the SD Card !, with the A2SD included in the Rom, why bother ?
What is the advantage, if any, of having this App on a Rom ?
tim
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No you misunderstand. To get more storage, there are several methods on android.
You get a froyo rom, which allows moving apps to the sd card. However not all of these apps can be moved over, and it is just the app data that is moved.
Method 2 is rooting and flashing a ROM which supports A2SD / A2SD+. This is very different from the apps to sd found on stock froyo. This allows pretty much all apps to be moved, and also moves things like the devlik cache and so on to the sd. It offers far superior storage to stock. For example on stock froyo with apps moved to sd, I can instal maybe 30 apps before I run out of memory. By contrast, I currently have over 100+ installed with A2SD running GingerVillain custom ROM with 64.9mb internal memory remaining.
I'm not the best at explaining things. Check out this FAQ, should answer all your questions.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html
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No you misunderstand. To get more storage, there are several methods on android.
You get a froyo rom, which allows moving apps to the sd card. However not all of these apps can be moved over, and it is just the app data that is moved.
Method 2 is rooting and flashing a ROM which supports A2SD / A2SD+. This is very different from the apps to sd found on stock froyo. This allows pretty much all apps to be moved, and also moves things like the devlik cache and so on to the sd. It offers far superior storage to stock. For example on stock froyo with apps moved to sd, I can instal maybe 30 apps before I run out of memory. By contrast, I currently have over 100+ installed with A2SD running GingerVillain custom ROM with 64.9mb internal memory remaining.
I'm not the best at explaining things. Check out this FAQ, should answer all your questions.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html
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Thanks for that buddy, i've got LEEDROID without A2SD, you have explained with A2SD extremely well, and in a way i can understand, although i can move a lot of Apps to my SD Card, i have noticed i cannot move all of them !, I learn summat everyday. thanks.
tim
timmy toad said:
Thanks for that buddy, i've got LEEDROID without A2SD, you have explained with A2SD extremely well, and in a way i can understand, although i can move a lot of Apps to my SD Card, i have noticed i cannot move all of them !, I learn summat everyday. thanks.
tim
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Yup definately worth upgrading to get more storage. Backup apps with titanium backup or mybackup root, then flash a2sd enabled rom, if N1 table user type scripts to enable in terminal and then restore apps. Simples
williamj1 said:
Yup definately worth upgrading to get more storage. Backup apps with titanium backup or mybackup root, then flash a2sd enabled rom, if N1 table user type scripts to enable in terminal and then restore apps. Simples
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AAAhhhh, Now you have completely befuddled me !, i dont know what you mean by N1 table table scripts in terminal etc.
I think i will stay as i am thanks, i am not quite so serious at getting my hands dirty as most of you are !. LOL
tim
Recently reset EVO fixing issues but it's still unrooted 2.2 with Go Launcher EX, any reason not to allow HTC software system update 4.24.651.1 (109.22 MB) -FOTA update to 2.3 as some apps are requiring it (previously people were saying it would be harder to root in the future if needed)?
BTW, just checked internal phone storage & I'm down to 55 MB so I would have to try to make space-how much available space would you recommend for this & free in general (& if you recommend this update)?
-Thanks
You can root with unrevoked then upgrade to Gingerbread using any custom ROM, like CM7. Or, if you're interested in ICS, you can try the ROM in my signature, which has a functioning 3MP camera.
Lacedaemon said:
You can root with unrevoked then upgrade to Gingerbread using any custom ROM, like CM7. Or, if you're interested in ICS, you can try the ROM in my signature, which has a functioning 3MP camera.
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Thanks but what about if I want to wait to root & how much available space do you recommend for all this (damn EVO should have had more internal storage)?
-Thanks
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks but what about if I want to wait to root & how much available space do you recommend for all this (damn EVO should have had more internal storage)?
-Thanks
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Honestly, I've never run out of internal space on my EVO, and I'm always switching ROMs & recoveries on the go; Therefore I don't exactly have any recommendations for you. However, if some of the apps you need or really want require Gingerbread, then there's really no reason to wait to upgrade, as there's always Revolutionary to root.
Lacedaemon said:
Honestly, I've never run out of internal space on my EVO, and I'm always switching ROMs & recoveries on the go; Therefore I don't exactly have any recommendations for you. However, if some of the apps you need or really want require Gingerbread, then there's really no reason to wait to upgrade, as there's always Revolutionary to root.
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Good to hear that from you but before the reset I could not install anything & was getting insufficient storage errors, how much more expensive would it have been for HTC to have put in 4-16GB internal..
If I root with unrevoked instead of rev preview as I'm still 2.2, would I be able to apply to this HTC update or would that unroot me or cause conflict (or would I then be limited to compatible unofficial custom ROMs post any root)?
I moved most apps to sd & now have 145 MB available internal storage, but if I apply this 110 MB update, will that only leave me with 35 MB or would I be able to get rid of temp files etc?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer for example requires 2.3+ & says it's currently "incompatible" (but was surprised Skype front cam works on 2.2 eventhough I had read that it required "Android OS 2.3 or higher allow apps to access the front facing camera" which had sounded odd)
To root-custom ROMs, how much space would you all want to see before proceeding as running out of space could be disastrous, no?
BTW, is anything not working in your ROM (what do you mean "has a functioning 3MP camera" as the EVO rear camera is 8MB)?
-Thanks
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Good to hear that from you but before the reset I could not install anything & was getting insufficient storage errors, how much more expensive would it have been for HTC to have put in 4-16GB internal..
If I root with unrevoked instead of rev preview as I'm still 2.2, would I be able to apply to this HTC update or would that unroot me or cause conflict (or would I then be limited to compatible unofficial custom ROMs post any root)?
I moved most apps to sd & now have 145 MB available internal storage, but if I apply this 110 MB update, will that only leave me with 35 MB or would I be able to get rid of temp files etc?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer for example requires 2.3+ & says it's currently "incompatible" (but was surprised Skype front cam works on 2.2 eventhough I had read that it required "Android OS 2.3 or higher allow apps to access the front facing camera" which had sounded odd)
To root-custom ROMs, how much space would you all want to see before proceeding as running out of space could be disastrous, no?
BTW, is anything not working in your ROM (what do you mean "has a functioning 3MP camera" as the EVO rear camera is 8MB)?
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The rom is still being worked on so the developers haven't got the camera to perform at the 8mp level yet like it's capable of. Future updates should of that rom should bring more functionality.
If your thinking about rooting, I would go for it. Even if you update to 2.3 and use revolutionary, it is very easy and only takes 5 minutes to root. Plus that will help get more internal storage. Using apps2sd and partitioning your sdcard will help a lot as well. Just a suggestion if you were to root, I would get the MikG 3.0 rom as it's one of the most stable,and everything working properly, gingerbread roms out there.
Sent from my Supercharged MikG'd up EVO 4g while eatin some Chop Suey.
Hit that thanks button if I managed to help.
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The rom is still being worked on so the developers haven't got the camera to perform at the 8mp level yet like it's capable of. Future updates should of that rom should bring more functionality.
If your thinking about rooting, I would go for it. Even if you update to 2.3 and use revolutionary, it is very easy and only takes 5 minutes to root. Plus that will help get more internal storage. Using apps2sd and partitioning your sdcard will help a lot as well. Just a suggestion if you were to root, I would get the MikG 3.0 rom as it's one of the most stable,and everything working properly, gingerbread roms out there.
Sent from my Supercharged MikG'd up EVO 4g while eatin some Chop Suey.
Hit that thanks button if I managed to help.
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Before Go Launcher EX I was more eager to root but I'm quite satisfied with the customization GoLEX offers. Part of me wants to root to delete the bloatware & for the free Wi-Fi tether (probably barely use it as it's a battery hog but the option would be nice for emergencies). Good to hear about fast root & fully enabled stable ROMs though..
This MikG 3.0? I like 3D interfaces but I think I'm done with Sense as I never want to see "Loading..." ever!
Still curious how much space would you all want to see before proceeding with a root-ROMs?
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Still curious how much space would you all want to see before proceeding with a root-ROMs?
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Doesn't matter. When you root it doesn't take any space. When you flash a custom ROM you would take the apps you want and back them up to your SD card using an app called "Titanium Backup". Then you would go into what's called "recovery" and you would wipe everything off of your phone and install new software. I would recommend Decks 1.3 if you don't want sense or MikG 3.0 if you still want sense. Then you would go back to the app titanium backup and restore the apps that you backed up.
So when you are done it will give you TONS of storage space available. Like all but about 120 on MikG and all but about 50 on Decks 1.3.
Does that explain it well enough?
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Doesn't matter. When you root it doesn't take any space. When you flash a custom ROM you would take the apps you want and back them up to your SD card using an app called "Titanium Backup". Then you would go into what's called "recovery" and you would wipe everything off of your phone and install new software. I would recommend Decks 1.3 if you don't want sense or MikG 3.0 if you still want sense. Then you would go back to the app titanium backup and restore the apps that you backed up.
So when you are done it will give you TONS of storage space available. Like all but about 120 on MikG and all but about 50 on Decks 1.3.
Does that explain it well enough?
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Yup thanks, just making sure as insufficient storage errors used to torture me before I reset it.
What do you all think of Zedomax vids - guides- sites ?
Is unrooting ever an issue, any reason I should avoid rooting (i.e. security concerns etc)?
-Thanks
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Yup thanks, just making sure as insufficient storage errors used to torture me before I reset it.
What do you all think of Zedomax vids - guides- sites ?
Is unrooting ever an issue, any reason I should avoid rooting (i.e. security concerns etc)?
-Thanks
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Unrooting shouldn't be an issue. I've done it a coupe times to take my phone into sprint (rooting voids your warranty) and all you have to do is download the correct file or an RUU, rename it to PC36IMG and place it on your sdcard. After that, boot your phone into the bootloader (take out battery, put back it, hold don volume down + power button) it will then ask you to update, select yes. Let your phone do its thing and bam your uprooted with stock rom and s-on.
I have never came across any reason not to root. It's Imo the best thing you can do for your phone. For instance, with dtapps2sd I have around 110 apps installed and have 232 MB of internal memory left. After you root, your phone will run better and you can dramatically increase battery life.
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Since you are still on stock 2.2 just root using unrevoked. Then flash whatever custom rom you want. Since you actually still have the choice to use unrevoked over revolutionary, I would suggest unrevoked. It's also slightly easier to unroot unrevoked, although they are both simple to do. Also unrevoked forever!
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The rom is still being worked on so the developers haven't got the camera to perform at the 8mp level yet like it's capable of. Future updates should of that rom should bring more functionality.
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Actually, scottypeterson, the devs at Evervolv have gotten the camera working at full 8MP. I think the dev (MongooseHelix) wanted to release it publicly himself, so I'm not gonna post the .zip...
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BTW, is anything not working in your ROM (what do you mean "has a functioning 3MP camera" as the EVO rear camera is 8MB)?
-Thanks
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Evervolv 2.1.0p4 is the only ICS ROM I've heard of that has a functioning camera. Right now, without the .zip that MongooseHelix is developing, the back camera (the big one) functions only at 3MP.
The only other thing not working that I care about is 4G. I used to use MIUI, so for me, that's not necessarily a problem.
EDIT TO MY LAST POST: MongooseHelix has released the .zip on Twitter, here's the link to it: https://twitter.com/#!/MongooseHelix/status/156264001242796032
Upgrading to 2.3? Holy crap you're way behind the times. Most people, including myself, are running 2.3.7....or at the very least 2.3.5. Some have even made the switch to ICS already.
Not sure what has been posted in this thread already but there is no logical reason to wait to root your phone. And there is no logical reason to still be using Froyo when GB is significantly better....not to mention its the stock system the phone ships with. That's like being stuck on XP while the rest of the world has moved on to Windows 7.
Concordium said:
That's like being stuck on XP while the rest of the world has moved on to Windows 7.
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Sounds like my dad, Concordium.
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Lacedaemon said:
Sounds like my dad, Concordium.
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Nah for my dad I've set him up with iPhones. I'm the only one in my family who appreciates the superior freedom+value of Android, most of them have iPhones, one still on BlackBerry for work. I just upgraded my dad to iPhone 4S last month but if the Samsung Galaxy Note was available then on AT&T I probably could have sold him on its unique features..
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Upgrading to 2.3? Holy crap you're way behind the times. Most people, including myself, are running 2.3.7....or at the very least 2.3.5. Some have even made the switch to ICS already.
Not sure what has been posted in this thread already but there is no logical reason to wait to root your phone. And there is no logical reason to still be using Froyo when GB is significantly better....not to mention its the stock system the phone ships with. That's like being stuck on XP while the rest of the world has moved on to Windows 7.
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You guys are aware that Win XP is still the dominant OS right? This remains mostly because of business markets.
I would have updated to 2.3 but was getting insufficient storage errors even from small apps until I reset it (& previously some here encouraged me not to update to 2.3 if I planned to root most easily-safely). My EVO is also a business device so there are more security concerns (rooting is not sanctioned) but was planning on rooting it after I get its work replacement (interested in the Samsung Galaxy Note but I was not a fan of the SGNexus).
Rooting really isn't a security concerns for your work phones?
-Thanks
Well we're not concerned with Windows' distribution within the corporate world. We're talking about the typical end user.
Now, if you're running out of storage then you're not moving your apps to your SD card. Moving them to your SD card frees up internal storage and helps keep your phone running smooth. Also, allowing thousands of SMS/MMS messages to accumulate on your phone takes up space and slows your phone down.
As far as rooting goes, its not a security issue unless you are careless with the apps you put on it. Sort of like a computer. Antivirus is a good thing to have. But your antivirus doesn't really need to do much if you use some common sense while surfing the net. With rooting you can improve battery life, tether, customize your system however you want it, and much much more. There really are no downsides to rooting.
Edit: both unrEVOked and Revolutionary are easy as hell to use. Both do an awesome job of painlessly rooting the Evo. Which one you use is just dependent on your system and radio version.
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Concordium said:
Well we're not concerned with Windows' distribution within the corporate world. We're talking about the typical end user.
Now, if you're running out of storage then you're not moving your apps to your SD card. Moving them to your SD card frees up internal storage and helps keep your phone running smooth. Also, allowing thousands of SMS/MMS messages to accumulate on your phone takes up space and slows your phone down.
As far as rooting goes, its not a security issue unless you are careless with the apps you put on it. Sort of like a computer. Antivirus is a good thing to have. But your antivirus doesn't really need to do much if you use some common sense while surfing the net. With rooting you can improve battery life, tether, customize your system however you want it, and much much more. There really are no downsides to rooting.
Edit: both unrEVOked and Revolutionary are easy as hell to use. Both do an awesome job of painlessly rooting the Evo. Which one you use is just dependent on your system and radio version.
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What I'm expressing is a concern about using it in a workplace environment as well..I've read in theory rooting makes your device more vulnerable but glad to hear in practice it should not be much of a concern.
I do move as much as possible to the SD card, previously I just had too many apps, some of which could not be moved at all or entirely to sdcard. How much space can I expect to gain by rooting & deleting the stock's bloatware?
Could you elaborate on "dependent on your system and radio version", or i.e. since I'm still on 2.2 unrEVOked is an option vs Rev for 2.3?
-Thanks
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What I'm expressing is a concern about using it in a workplace environment as well..I've read in theory rooting makes your device more vulnerable but glad to hear in practice it should not be much of a concern.
I do move as much as possible to the SD card, previously I just had too many apps, some of which could not be moved at all or entirely to sdcard. How much space can I expect to gain by rooting & deleting the stock's bloatware?
Could you elaborate on "dependent on your system and radio version", or i.e. since I'm still on 2.2 unrEVOked is an option vs Rev for 2.3?
-Thanks
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There are security apps for the Evo. Things like Wavesecure and the like. They search apk's for malicious code. That would be a good thing to invest in if you're concerned about possible security issues.
Also, here is the page for unrEVOked. Scroll down on the page and check the listed versions. If your Evo is running one of the baseband versions listed then you can run unrEVOked Forever. If it is running a different baseband version then you need to use Revolutionary. You can check your baseband version by holding the volume up button and the power button at the same time until the white screen appears. Your baseband version will be listed at the top of the screen.
check out deck's ICS ROM, amazing! not a daily driver though.
Hello everyone,
a quick summary of the situation: I got a wildfire S from my girlfriend, complaining for too little space for apps. I decided to go for the rooting procedure (I did it last year with my p500, but my memories are kinda foggy). The phone info are as follows:
Android 2.3.5, HTC sense 2.1, software number 2.26.401.3, baseband 47.23e.35.3038H_7.57.39.10M
So now it's rooted, with recovery, and ready to be used with link2sd. Here come my doubts:
- first of all, I did a backup using the recovery, which I understand is a nandroid back up. Does it mean I am safe and I will be able to go back to square one every time I feel like it?
- the phone itself works fine with its own stock rom. The real main issue was the lack of space for apps. Now that I also rooted it, I might even get rid of some of the HTC apps that are quite annoying. Point is: does it make sense to "clean up" the stock rom, or should I go for a cooked rom instead?
- and here's where we come to the title of the thread: I'm having a hard time finding a ROM that is a clean version of the stock one. It seems like everyone wants to go for the latest version of the OS, but doing so seems to me a trade off with stability and compatibility. Shouldn't it be easy to find a simple ROM based on 2.3.x, with everything working, but cleaned of all the crap installed by HTC (not the sense interface per se, I don't mind that, but some of the other apps seem kind of useless to me). Am I missing something?
Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing in any way, I'm only trying to understand. I feel like I am missing lots of pieces of the puzzle
So, if anyone has 5 minutes to spare and wants a big "thank you", any insight and or suggestion will be very appreciated.
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Hello everyone,
a quick summary of the situation: I got a wildfire S from my girlfriend, complaining for too little space for apps. I decided to go for the rooting procedure (I did it last year with my p500, but my memories are kinda foggy). The phone info are as follows:
Android 2.3.5, HTC sense 2.1, software number 2.26.401.3, baseband 47.23e.35.3038H_7.57.39.10M
So now it's rooted, with recovery, and ready to be used with link2sd. Here come my doubts:
- first of all, I did a backup using the recovery, which I understand is a nandroid back up. Does it mean I am safe and I will be able to go back to square one every time I feel like it?
- the phone itself works fine with its own stock rom. The real main issue was the lack of space for apps. Now that I also rooted it, I might even get rid of some of the HTC apps that are quite annoying. Point is: does it make sense to "clean up" the stock rom, or should I go for a cooked rom instead?
- and here's where we come to the title of the thread: I'm having a hard time finding a ROM that is a clean version of the stock one. It seems like everyone wants to go for the latest version of the OS, but doing so seems to me a trade off with stability and compatibility. Shouldn't it be easy to find a simple ROM based on 2.3.x, with everything working, but cleaned of all the crap installed by HTC (not the sense interface per se, I don't mind that, but some of the other apps seem kind of useless to me). Am I missing something?
Just to be clear, I'm not criticizing in any way, I'm only trying to understand. I feel like I am missing lots of pieces of the puzzle
So, if anyone has 5 minutes to spare and wants a big "thank you", any insight and or suggestion will be very appreciated.
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Yes you can go back when you want to
There are some cooked stock roms that support init.d and some other stuff. So tweaking the rom is possible. Link2sd isn't enough for maximum storage so you can partition your SD card and try cronmod int2ext
If you like stable and reliable stock rom then I guess you can give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37855587
This rom has all the HTC apps but you can remove it and the storage will greatly increase if you use int2ext so it doesn't really matter
There are always other roms such as cm7 and cm9 which are quite stable too
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Yes you can go back when you want to
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Nice, time to save it on my computer too then.
There are some cooked stock roms that support init.d and some other stuff. So tweaking the rom is possible. Link2sd isn't enough for maximum storage so you can partition your SD card and try cronmod int2ext
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init.d allows loading scripts at boot, right? Why do you say thath Link2sd isn't enough? I've been playing with it a bit yesterday, monitoring space usage with diskusage and appears to do what it is supposed to.
If you like stable and reliable stock rom then I guess you can give this a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37855587
This rom has all the HTC apps but you can remove it and the storage will greatly increase if you use int2ext so it doesn't really matter
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Thanks, I'll give them a shot. Just out of curiosity, to remove the HTC apps I can use link2sd, right? From what I understand, deleting system apps does not give more space because the system and data partition maintain the same size. So I might as well freeze them instead of removing them. Is this the reason you suggest to use int2ext?
There are always other roms such as cm7 and cm9 which are quite stable too
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Besides the coolness of having the most recent OS, how would you rate the trade off between plus and minuses of going for the newer version? As in "youtube doesn't work, but the OS i sooooooo much better that I don't care" kind of thing.
Thanks a lot man!
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Nice, time to save it on my computer too then.
init.d allows loading scripts at boot, right? Why do you say thath Link2sd isn't enough? I've been playing with it a bit yesterday, monitoring space usage with diskusage and appears to do what it is supposed to.
Thanks, I'll give them a shot. Just out of curiosity, to remove the HTC apps I can use link2sd, right? From what I understand, deleting system apps does not give more space because the system and data partition maintain the same size. So I might as well freeze them instead of removing them. Is this the reason you suggest to use int2ext?
Besides the coolness of having the most recent OS, how would you rate the trade off between plus and minuses of going for the newer version? As in "youtube doesn't work, but the OS i sooooooo much better that I don't care" kind of thing.
Thanks a lot man!
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Yeap. Because if you use link2sd you'll eventually reach a limit as I tried. And the storage will keep gettig full.
Yeap you can use link2sd I personally like to remove it because the menu looks messy and I have to scroll a lot to find my favourite apps so its your choice on whether you wanna remove it or not because int2ext increases your storage as it mounts sd-ext to.... I don't really get this stuff too but whatever
So far the latest android for the wfs is cm10. It is quite stable as YouTube, autobrightness and loads of stuff work. But the disadvantage is that its quite laggy and is a battery killer.
There is cm9 too. Its really smooth but there are bugs such as YouTube HQ videos playback, camcorder not fully supported and crap
Anytime happy to help
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So, like a half of a year ago I've got my Desire, second hand. Now I didn't want to be stuck forever on Android 2.2 and old Sense, so I decided to root and install a newer rom. Rooting and S-OFF were succesful after a bit messing around, but it worked. So, I've tried a lot of roms, but just a few of them seemed to work, Usually the ones, I didn't need. Right now I'm on the Touchwiz 5 JB rom, but it sometimes has a problem with the microphone. Else than that, it works nicely stable, many times more stable than the 2.3.3 RUU from HTC. But don't really like the interface, I'm a huge fan of Sense.
Now I didn't get any Sense rom to work, all the way from the 2.1 Sense roms to the newest 4.1 rom (where the number is the Sense version). I only got some plain roms to work, which I've used a little time, but they don't really satisfy me.
So, the tech information: rooted with Revolutionary, so the recovery is the ClockworkMod. The phone is also S-OFF, runs on HBOOT 6.93.1002, and currently runs on the Touchwiz 5 JB rom. I've tried almost all roms with Sense, exept for some new ones (4.0+) since they still have a lot problems with things I need to have.
So, I hope somebody is able to help me.
Looking right now, I haven't tried the latest Cooldroid Revolution yet, so I'll try that right now.
Tell us a little about your sd-ext partition.
I'm 99% certain you didn't create EXT partition on SD card, or you didn't do it correctly.
Use 4ext recovery to partition your SD (create 1GB ext4 partition and nothing else, rest will be FAT32 where you store your media etc.)
Reason why Touchwiz 5 JB worked for you, is that it doesn't require EXT partition to boot, since you have to activate a2sd script manually using terminal.
And without a2sd you will run out of space rather quickly.
Well, I indeed have no EXT partition, since I've tried that once, but resulted into a USB brick and malfunctioning SD-card. I will google it whenever I've tried this rom.
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Well, I indeed have no EXT partition, since I've tried that once, but resulted into a USB brick and malfunctioning SD-card. I will google it whenever I've tried this rom.
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Check out the partitioning guide in my sig.
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Check out the partitioning guide in my sig.
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oooh nice and simple!
Good, with the EXT 2 partition it all works now. Got RSK Satelite (whatever it's called) running, Thanks for the help everybody!