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Hi I have just started using handbrake and I am a little baffled. What settings or programs do use to encode video for the Desire?
I tried one encode to .mp4 using h.264 codec however I only get the sound and no video. Any help would be appreciated....
use Mpeg-4 instead of h.264 at 800x480px, works fine
I use the built in settings for the iphone and it works fine!
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JaykaySLO said:
use Mpeg-4 instead of h.264 at 800x480px, works fine
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Hi how do you set the size to 800x480 and maintain the original aspect ratio?
There is no way. 800x480px is the max resolution to use. If you have a file with a lower res, leave it at that.
Oh I see, I'll give that a go....
It's really odd that there isn't a decent video player app out there.....
you can set the width to 800px and pres the keep aspect ratio. that will set the height to whatever is needed to keep the aspect ratio.
If your after a decent media player try nemoplayer (I cant post the link to the thread but the thread number is 598509)
I converted a video to [email protected], it stuttered a little with the default player, but played perfectly with nemoplayer.
As for conversion, I have found Xilisoft to be very good, I paid for it to convert videos for my iPod Touch as it has great default profiles and its very quick as it uses all 4 cores of my CPU.
For the settings it depends on the video but I have been using the following settings for x264 MP4 video, these settings should work with any video converter.
16x9 video:
1000Kbps
192Kbps audio (for movies and music videos, 128 might be good enough for most)
resolution 800x450
It leaves the smallest of boarders top and bottom but it retains the corrent aspect ratio
4x3 video
800Kbps
192Kbps
reolution 640x480
that`s an overkill. 800 Kbps @23 fps, 96k audio is well enough. It plays fine on default video player. Smaller file size as well.
I tied 800Kbps and found it looked no better than the music videos I purchased from itunes which are smaller again and have a lower resolution.
I suppose the best thing to do is play about with bit rate for the video and go with what you are happy with, file size isnt a big issue for me when it comes to movies or TV shows as I tend to only have one or two on the SD card at a time.
As for audio please anything lower than 128kbps should be illegal
There's actualy a very nice thread on these forums discussing the settings for the HTC topaz and which programs to use, but since google turns up this thread as the first one I guess I'll add a little comment here as well.
Any converter should work to convert video to the right format, it doesn't matter which one u use, as long as your converter has the options to set the video bitrate, audio bitrate, aspect ratio, frames per sec and maybe some extra audio settings. I use format factory and It works great.
Mp4 format with AVC H264 videocoding is the way to go. how you turn the settings out is up to you and the space on your SD card (or lack of one).
I use the following settings to play HD video on my HTC Topaz:
-MP4 format
-AVC (H264) videocoding on 512 bitrate (you might go up to 768, but will lag longer videos which you encode from a HD source) and a 800x480 resolution.
-AAC audiocoding on 128 bitrate (indeed the minimum for people with sufficient hearing-capabilities, otherwise you might wanna go lower than that, but not advised as you can definitely hear the difference) and 44100 sample rate.
-Framerate of 25 (fixed, no real need changing this anyway, it's the best framerate out there, any higher will probably slow down your video on mobile devices)
-aspect ratio of 4:3 (you can pretty much set this one however you like, as long as you don't let it decide automaticaly. if you're not sure about your aspect ratio use this setting)
These settings work great on Topaz and are probable to work for other HTC models, as long as they have a maximum resolution of 800x480. One more thing is to notice that your HTC device (at least starting from Topaz (touch diamond 2) has the ability to playback HD content. You can test above settings with videos downloaded from the HD sample site from microsoft. point is the HD playback only works on the standard player coming with your device (windows mediaplayer) because the decoders are not freely given to other developers and therefore no other video playback program has them implemented in their mobile player.
Hope this helped.
c2k8cook said:
If your after a decent media player try nemoplayer (I cant post the link to the thread but the thread number is 598509)
I converted a video to [email protected], it stuttered a little with the default player, but played perfectly with nemoplayer.
As for conversion, I have found Xilisoft to be very good, I paid for it to convert videos for my iPod Touch as it has great default profiles and its very quick as it uses all 4 cores of my CPU.
For the settings it depends on the video but I have been using the following settings for x264 MP4 video, these settings should work with any video converter.
16x9 video:
1000Kbps
192Kbps audio (for movies and music videos, 128 might be good enough for most)
resolution 800x450
It leaves the smallest of boarders top and bottom but it retains the corrent aspect ratio
4x3 video
800Kbps
192Kbps
reolution 640x480
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I installed Nemoplayer, but it only displays the videos in my DCIM folder? I have tried to move my test video over to that folder too, but it still can't find it. I converted it to mp4 with format factory, at 320 x something so the size should be ok
I usually encode in .mp4 h.264 base profile, max 3 ref frames, 800x640 res max and no cabac or b frames. At constant rate factor of 24 image quality is great and file size impressively small.
Tested on many videos, only mencoder needed, can't get any simpler:
Put this as one line in convert2desire.bat:
mencoder %1 -o "%~n1.mp4" -of lavf -lavfopts format=mp4 -vf dsize=800:480:0,scale=0:0,expand=800:480:-1::::,harddup -sws 9 -ovc x264 -x264encopts crf=24:force_cfr:bframes=0:nocabac:no8x8dct:global_header -oac faac -faacopts br=128:mpeg=4bject=2:raw -af volnorm=1 -channels 2 -srate 44100 -delay 0.3
Then run "convert2desire.bat tobeconvertedvideo.avi"
The resulting file will be tobeconvertedvideo.mp4
Lower crf to have even better quality and larger file.
The -vf parameters will always output a 800x480 file and other screen ratios will be correctly scaled to fit inside 800x480.
Mencoder download:
sourceforge.net/projects/mplayer-win32/files/MPlayer%20and%20MEncoder/revision%2031139/MPlayer-rtm-svn-31139.7z/download
I must say the screen of the Desire is top notch quality!
It is ridiculous how crisp everything looks for such a small device.
Let me know if this script works for you.
Anyone tried doubletwist? It looks like itune, and if we sync video, it will convert it to the format that standard player in desire can play.
I agree on the audio delay in your script, the desire seems to delay video by a little.
Hey guys i am trying to find the best solution converting my movies and watching them on htc desire. i have the subtitles into srt files (greek language) but i can't convert a movie into mp4 with subtitles playable. i tried the touch hd encoder but they appear with strange letters. with xilisoft there is no good quality.
if there is anyone that can help me with settings on one of the following programs and how to attach subtitles to desire please help me. i have:
xilisoft video converter ultimate
videora for android
total video converter
Handbrake should do the job. http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
Is it possible to 'hard burn' the srt subtitles in a movie in handbrake? Always thought this is not possible with handbrake..
edit: Check this: http://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/Subtitles
SRT subtitle import – You can import SRT files into HandBrake through the “Subtitles tab”.
o SRT files are pass-through only. They cannot be burnt into the video.
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So what you could do is to find a converter from srt to Bitmap (VOBSUB), and then use that instead. Because handbrake is able to 'burn' those into the video.
OR! Use a player that supports subtitles... Is there one for Android that works properly?
total converter can add subtitles but i can't find a good setting for size and quality. i think the resolution being 800x480 but with low bitrate gives bad result. anyone with good settings ?
some just cant read properly
HandBrake has two methods of subtitle OUTPUT:
• Hard Burn: This means the subtitles are written on top of the image permanently. They cannot be turned on or off like on the DVD.
• Soft Subtitles: This means the subtitles will appear as separate selectable tracks in your output file. With the correct playback software, you’ll be able to enable / disable these subtitles as required.
Please read my quote from the handbrake wiki and stand corrected. The OP wants .srt subtitles in this movie.
So instead of telling people they cannot read please tell us which app can play soft subtitles.
I already thought of the other solution for handbrake, convert the srt's to bitmaps and then hard burn them.
edit: fast google showed you can convert srt to vobsub using SubtitleCreator. Open srt and then save as vobsub. Then use handbrake to convert and add the subtitles to your movie.
As for total converter, I have no idea. Cranking up the bitrate doesn't work? If space is not an issue that is usually the easiest way of getting better image quality.
I have qouted from the link you provided.
JaykaySLO said:
I have qouted from the link you provided.
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Yes, and that continues stating that you cannot hard burn srt files. I have tried and it's indeed not possible. When you import a .srt file the 'burned in' option is greyed out.
Come on man, telling others to read while not doing that yourself is kinda awkward
My 'solution' doesn't work either. Guess handbrake cannot load external subtitles perhaps? I'm sure it works from a dvd, but so far external subs have not been burned into my movies.
Something else you might try is to download 'mVideoPlayer' from the market. Apparantly that one should be able to use .srt files.
Gave it a quick test and it seems to be working! So perhaps this is a better option than to hard burn those subs into your movies.
lambrospower said:
Hey guys i am trying to find the best solution converting my movies and watching them on htc desire. i have the subtitles into srt files (greek language) but i can't convert a movie into mp4 with subtitles playable. i tried the touch hd encoder but they appear with strange letters. with xilisoft there is no good quality.
if there is anyone that can help me with settings on one of the following programs and how to attach subtitles to desire please help me. i have:
xilisoft video converter ultimate
videora for android
total video converter
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Use Mp4ForHD.
I use FormatFactory http://www.formatoz.com/
It can embed subtitles, has presets for most devices, unfortunately it doesn't support the native (800*480) resolution of the Desire but being an actively developed (and frequently updated) software I expect it to do so soon.
moshbeard said:
Handbrake should do the job.
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Most opensource softare is just benefit from free like handbrake. On the other hand, it is difficult to use for beginner, lack support and weak stability. handbrake attend technology and ignore user experience. I consider many other charge program are better than it.
lambrospower said:
Hey guys i am trying to find the best solution converting my movies and watching them on htc desire. i have the subtitles into srt files (greek language) but i can't convert a movie into mp4 with subtitles playable. i tried the touch hd encoder but they appear with strange letters. with xilisoft there is no good quality.
if there is anyone that can help me with settings on one of the following programs and how to attach subtitles to desire please help me. i have:
xilisoft video converter ultimate
videora for android
total video converter
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so far the most effective combination that has proved in practice: Rock Player + Video Converter. Unfortunately, both programs must be purchased but the fact that real intelligence work perfectly on dezire HD. I recommend everyone to at least try, as both trials.
Try this
Kigo Video Converter Ultimate is a newly released video converter designed specifically for Mac users to convert nearly all sorts of videos into whatever format they want. As a Mac user, this is really a good news for you.
Google this
Total video converter. this program rock's everithing you can do everithing subs, any format, any res. audio, video, customize video , customize subs just everithing
RockPlayer does support subtitles (.srt, don't know about .sub) and it works flawlessly. You can choose color and size of the subtitle in the settings.
Try mVideoPlayer from the market which is currently free...
Convert your video using whichever method you prefer to MP4 / M4V and copy it to your device (I prefer Handbrake).
Either copy your .srt subtitles to the same folder or else mVideoPlayer can search for subtitles for the video and download them - you just choose whether or not to display them.
It works well on my Advent Vega tablet, but I haven't tried the app on my Desire yet as I am waiting for it to come back from repair after a "bouncing down a flight of stairs" incident!
What are good picture settings and average bitrates for movies in handbrake?
320X240? but what about the average bitrate?
Should i use the hardware or software decoding on rockplayer?
I find MX Player Pro is the best option when I dont have time to convert movies with .srt files. It plays all formats and support subtitle files!
You may try this one that helped me before: Asoftech Video Converter
I'd like to play videos in full screen at the full resolution of the device. Any ideas how I can do this?
Thanks
U can use any DVD converter, allows for setting custom resolution of video being converted
Or simply play file with res like 1024x720 or 1280x720 works well for me
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Total video converter
http://www.effectmatrix.com/total-video-converter/
I'm wondering what is the optimal encoding specs that would work on the Desire Z?
I have the Rebuild of Evangelion 2.22 on video, but it's in 1080p and it's 6gigs in size. I'm wondering what's the best specs for me to run the video file on my desire z smoothly.
I'm looking at size, bitrate, encoder, and audio specs.
Convert to avi and install either vplayer or rockplayer. No extra bs needed with apps like that.
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I'm still in need of the resolution and bitrate. I'm probably going to be encoding the file in mp4 (h.264)
Like I said you don't need to do anything besides convert to avi. I play bluray rips of very larg size and works fine. When I first started adding videos I was asking the same question you are. Use one of those 2 players.
Or you could google your question and find other answers way faster than waiting for responses here
Why do you want to use mp4? Rockplayer and vplayer play tons more codecs. Less compression=better video/audio
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I use MP4 because it is 90% more reliable than other codecs out there and the quality to compression ratio is pretty good. I would like to be able to fit a feature length movie in the small 8gb card I have on my phone (4gigs available atm)
And i have already searched google, nothing really came up. maybe i'm using the wrong keywords, but there was nothing that mentioned resolution, bitrate, etc.
besides, watching 1080p on such a small screen doesn't make it look any better as opposed to it being watched in 720p or so since it's so small.
I've had the best results by using Handbrake and converting the video to mp4 (ffmpeg) format and resizing it to the Z's native resolution. Settings are pretty much default with around 1500kbps (could be too much depending on the source).
sounds good. I'm probably going to leave it at 720p for safety's sake, but I'll re-encode the file to 640x480 for comparison.
I find that I get better video quality results using SUPER than I do with Handbrake, I'm sure it's just a settings thing since they both use the same tools under the hood.
Was searching for a guide as well, from this article, Desire Z has been known to support h264 with baseline profile at level 3
check the link for full details and basic handbrake guide http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/converting_video_for_the_htc_desire_z.cfm
Hi guys I am starting this thread because i didn't find much information regarding:
1)Video conversion softwares.
2)Best video formats for obtaining least size with highest possbile quality
3)Converting full HD videos to be able to play on defy with the best quality
4)Best players available for defy to play good quality videos smoothly.
I have started experimenting on this..
I am using total video converter for conversion and Moboplayer for playing.
Keeping Resolution 854x480 and Video bit rate 2500Kbps.
I get a file of size 55Mb .avi(H.264) after conversion of a 113Mb .mov(1080p) file.
I want you people to tell me your methods and softwares for doing this.
I hope this thread will help all people having trouble in playing HD videos on their Defy.
I will keep updating whenever I find something new and useful info.
Thank You.
For the Defy, my favorite video conversion software is Handbrake.
It's free and it's the best at letting me crop 4:3 format videos the way I want easilly.
- Choose the 'iPphone Legacy' format
- Uncheck 'large file size' and 'Iphone 5G support'
- Select your file name/location and resolution [make sure that keep ratio is enable];
- Choose auto or set your custom cropping
- Let it do the re-encoding; it is very fast: it keeps both my cpu cores at 100%
The Defy will basically play anything smaller or equal to its native screen resolution but most of the time, I find that 640x360 looks just fine.
What is the best container for 720p movies? I tried .mkv but Software decoding is too slow...Video is chopy but sound is good.
I made my own HD video with Defy camera (auto packed it as .3gp), and when played it was also chopy and even slower than .mkv :S
mp4 is native
Ok, that is cool...I have MS2Ginger1.0 with 720p video shootin, but I can't change format when shootin a video...It saves it like .3gp :S
That just sucks then