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Android causing damage?

When running Android, my phone gets hot. I also know that when it gets hot, the phone will shut down when I open/close the keyboard, and later have this behavior even when the phone is cool. I am wondering if the increase in heat may be damaging the internals of the Tilt 2? I am about to get my third one in from ATT, as I had to send my first and current one back because of this.
I am in no way blaming the devs or anything, I know I run Android at my own risk. I am just curious if anyone else has had a similar problem or knows of a solution/other reason for this behavior.

Do you only have this behavior in Android...? If so, you probably have no grounds for replacing the phone...

Which version are you running?
The Blazn package overclocks the CPU by default, which could cause it to get warmer than you are used to in WinMo.
Also, the power savings aren't totally finished, so again it will more than likely run warmer than Windows.
Did you disable the Auto Backlight Control under WinMo? Failing to do that can cause the backlight to stay on all the time which will draw a fair amount of power (and generate heat).
If it's getting really hot then I would think there is something else at fault, but you need to provide more info.

mbellot said:
Which version are you running?
The Blazn package overclocks the CPU by default, which could cause it to get warmer than you are used to in WinMo.
Also, the power savings aren't totally finished, so again it will more than likely run warmer than Windows.
Did you disable the Auto Backlight Control under WinMo? Failing to do that can cause the backlight to stay on all the time which will draw a fair amount of power (and generate heat).
If it's getting really hot then I would think there is something else at fault, but you need to provide more info.
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yeah shouldnt be getting "hot." maybe a little warm. and i would suggest taking it out of any cases you have it in while running droid or overclocking.

if any thing its the battery thats getting hot....the battery may be damaged if anything and you may loose some of your capacity to charge...so change the battery...idk but that maybe the issue...if it starts to get hot you should reboot and dont let it run hot for a long period of time...or maybe its time for another phone one too many drops...idk only some suggestions

I used to have this, its caused by the battery being loose in the craddle.
Solution- new batt

pls help desire getting so warm and rebooting

My desire is getting too hot/warm near the bottom area and keep rebooting.
It is t-mobile UK version.i have debrand my desire to wwe 2.10.405.2
boot loader 32.44.00.32 by using gold card.
I check with htc they told me that the warranty of my phone is valid only in UK,than in frustration i just open the back panel of my phone and put some small pieces of aluminum foil over the heat sink to absorb some extra heat but that did not work and i don't understand what to do and i closed it again.
i cannot use my phone for more than 15 mnts bcos it getting so warm and rebooting.
if i remove the bettery and keep it for some time to get cool than it work fine but after some time same problem.
pls pls somebody help me

It appears this is a problem with the system board. Mine does the same.
Mine is usually when using GPS or on heavy data usage, the only thing that can work is to use SetCPU (device will need to be rooted) and set the phone to run at around 600MHz.
But I'm guessing you bought a 1Ghz phone to use it as that, mine will be going back to T-Mobile UK very soon.
Check your serial number (mine starts HT03) they appear to have problems up to HT07.

Agree - had to swap my girlfriends' Desire because of the same issue.

heat issue affects me too! So getting over the constant restarts!
Agreed on the heat issue - Mine is being affected as well and is also a T-mobile. it's serial number is within that range you mention: HT06MPL......
running 2.2, base 32.49.00.32u and kernal 2.6.32.15.
The problem only started affecting me when using the GPS until I realised it happened with any application that I use. Music, pics, browsing and even simple texting. And having a rubber cover probably doesn't help much either.
Whats the chances is getting it exchanged/repaired if purchased through topbuy.com.au? Best get onto it.
Thanks for the advice on the SETCPU app - I may purchase and monitor usage.

My phone has the same problem, it keeps rebooting all the time when it was warm. I bring it back to the dealer, and two weeks later i got my phone with new system board.
So, the problem solved..

feroz2u said:
than in frustration i just open the back panel of my phone and put some small pieces of aluminum foil over the heat sink to absorb some extra heat but that did not work and i don't understand what to do and i closed it again.
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Putting aluminum foil on a device which was already overheating was definitely not the brightest thing to do. :/
Mine gets hot too around usb, but only during charge. It is only natural that CPU when stressed outputs greater amount of heat, but restarting definitely points out it is flawed too.

i can get by in mine, im waiting for vodafone to stop stocking htc desire, so i can get free upgrade to desire HD MWAHAHAHAHA

[Q] Battery overheating

My wife's phone has been over heating for the past month. It started happening about a month after she cracked the digitizer. I thought that may have been the problem, so I replaced it with no results. I have also replaced the battery and it continues to get around 135F with minimal use. The battery will also rapidly drain while in stand by let alone actual use. Her phone is completly stock. Any ideas would be appriciated not sure if I should do a factory reset try rooting CM7..... thanks in advance.
PS she is not using a task killer

did she leave it in the car or something on a hot day? I had my previous Dinc OC'd and then left it in my car.. from that point it was just purely fried. if i used anything on it besides the phone it would restart. The only way i got it working was flashing a minimal use rom (my preference was skyraider because i still liked sense) and then had a UV Kernel. With the Dinc they had Incredikernel, but with this one Drellis's #21 UV about 50 works amazing.. just dont overclock it. it should help a bit.. otherwise if there is no water damage.. turn it in for a verizon warrenty replacement. (obviously make sure you have S-on if you do that)

Overheating, random reboots.. out of warrenty

Hi, I have a HTC desire, its nice but it gets hot latley when playing games like angry birds for a bit when the battery drops to 20% or so, and I plug in in.. it starts doing reboot cycle.. I think it only happens until the phone cools down.
I know the only real fix for this is a new mainboard, but I am not under warrenty..
any suggestions on how to live with it, or work with it.. someone told me a bad sim card or sd card might do this to the phone... I have already put 2.3 on it and factory reset and such...
thanks

How old is it? In the eu the warranty is 2 years.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!

Wow, good to see im not the only one. I have the same problems, and depending on the rom they get worse or better. im running CM7 now and i have little problems, but when i was running the ICS beta it happend a lot, both on and of the charger and in my pants pocket or out.
If its overheated and i take out the battery i can smell a sort of molten plastic / overheated electronics smell.

for me it was the same - main problem is motherboard.
in the end service center exchanged for me motherboard and now this problem is gone.
but before this exchange i did following:
* decreased max cpu speed to 576-768MHz (via SetCPU)
* in one of old kernels I was able to manipulate with CPU voltage level, so i was decreasing it for all freq. which was used by me.
* charging only via PC usb ports - when it was able to be fully charged and not overheat
but the proper way would be only to bring your device into service center...

I would also suggest decreasing the max speed

might be that sleep mode doesn't work entirely as it should in some roms, not making the CPU frequency drop enough when the screen is off.
And your device might be getting old and wear is starting to show.
If it's actually damaged, replacing parts may be the only solution

This is a known problem for the first devices. The solution is to change the motherboard, of course at the service center.

mephoneisjunk said:
Hi, I have a HTC desire, its nice but it gets hot latley when playing games like angry birds for a bit when the battery drops to 20% or so, and I plug in in.. it starts doing reboot cycle.. I think it only happens until the phone cools down.
I know the only real fix for this is a new mainboard, but I am not under warrenty..
any suggestions on how to live with it, or work with it.. someone told me a bad sim card or sd card might do this to the phone... I have already put 2.3 on it and factory reset and such...
thanks
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You need to pick a good firmware I worth Runnymede AIO V 5.0.1 Special Edition-> Base Runnymede 1.22.461.2 Official Sensation sense 3.5 Android 2.3.5 [CM7/r2] [STOCK] [AD2SDX] [A2SD] [BEATS] [RCTWEAKS] [Aroma Touch Installer]
no problems found! the same problems arise Earlier.

How did you void your warranty? Rooting or installing custom does not void hardware warranty. At least I got my pvt1 motherboard replaced even when I had rooted and used superglue to fix some broken plastic under back cover.
Sent from my HTC Runnymede

Ya, the phone is just out of warrenty, it really is only 1 year in Canada.. no ifs ands or butts...
But the phone only seems to do the reboot loop when I play angry birds when the battery is low and or when I play angry birds when the phone is charging ..
I think it happend once in google street view...
in other words intense apps... that make the phone warm up and then the sensor tells the phone to restart to protect the processor from overheating, but when the phone reboots the thing is still hot so it keeps rebooting.. only solution is to take the phone battery out and let it cool..
I guess this problem could get worse but it doesn't happen with normal web browsing at this point. I might have to live with it until I find someone to replace the mainboard cheaper than HTC wants.. otherwise not worth it.
I guess lowering the CPU max might be great so it doesn't overheat in the 1st place, I will try that.
I don't really understand rom, I have 2.3 gingerbread, is there something else I can change to perhaps get a better radio signal on this puppy ?
THanks GUys

I have this problem, although until recently it only when trying to use it as satnav.
I'm glad to hear it's a known problem though.
I contacted my provider and they said perhaps the battery is getting tired and causing it to reboot due to lack of power. I pointed out that it was the other components near the sim & sd card slots that were getting hot, not the battery, so they sent me another one. I did buy another battery too and that has made no difference either. As soon as I rooted the replacement phone it started getting warm too. I'm also pretty sure that the "replacement" was a refurbed one, since the optical joystick doesn't always respond and when typing msgs sometimes the vibe feedback stops working mid-word.
It's very frustrating not being able to use it for navigation any more (although it works happily with My Tracks for recording routes).
However since I've rooted it, I don't think I'd get away with requesting another replacement phone. I've tried installing other rom's that might run cooler, but when I do they always lock at the HTC splashscreen and I have to restore nandroid backup.

Hello,
i'm new to XDA developers. Should i buy this phone? I'm thinking about it these days but i'm not sure if it is worth. Thanks for your answers.

The same Problem on my Phone! While charging i can not use my Phone.
My solution: Don't touch while charging. :-(

I think I have same problem...my Desire in regular use get worm at 35% and at 38% burns my hand...and what is wors,for 15/20 min. regular use(not havy or gaming) temp. rise from 28% to 37% but something confuse me...last night I play 3d games for an 1 hour and at 20 min. I put it on charger and continue to play games and 40 min. later temp. is 40% and stil no reboot but butom side of phone(not battery...front side (buttons and screen) and back side) is so hot that I can burn my hand on it. I put statistic that battery indicator show(time,%,temp.). So is it like that to you guys? Is your phone have that heat thing for 15 min. of regular use?
Its pic of last night 3D gaming and its all statistic of temp./ % / time...

setCPU sorted this issue for me

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setCPU sorted this issue for me
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Ok, sounds promising. Can you elaborate on that a little bit please? What settings did you use etc?

Ahhhhh.... My gf phone having this issue.. and i think the problem is the sdcard, class 2 and use it for a2sd..
But, i tried to unroot the problems still happen, even without sdcard, the best way for me is leave this phone.. :-(
Sent from my PG86100 using xda premium

If still in warranty, call HTC.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

timwb said:
Ok, sounds promising. Can you elaborate on that a little bit please? What settings did you use etc?
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simply installed it, and it had it run at lowest speed on idle so it could remain cooler
(you can check the settings on it to see what it runs on idle and modify to your needs anyway)

I have similar problem like yours. I suspect the problem is come from SIM because there is no this kind issue happened IF turn to flight mode or tool out the SIM.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

Extremely high phone temp!

Does anyone have issues with your SGSII T989 phones having extremely high temps?
I get it when using the GPS, charging the phone while i'm talking on the phone, and doing a few other activities. It did not do this on my first purchase of the phone and i'm a bit weary of the temps as sometiems it gets quite warm!
Currently I'm on O.E. SGS II Rom w/ root, that's about it! No OC no mods or anything of that sort. (Just CWM and Root).
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, as this heat as caused me from using my phone each day more and more.
P.S. I WAS on Juggernaut Rom and then flashed back to Stock, and it was having this heating issue then, should i try to do a complete 100% wipe like on one of the development threads and start from scratch like I just got the phone from the factory again? I wiped my system using Odin and it seems to of kept my old programs, no information like games and etc. was kept however, does anyone think that might be the problem? Once again thanks!

XxGoKoUxX said:
Does anyone have issues with your SGSII T989 phones having extremely high temps?
I get it when using the GPS, charging the phone while i'm talking on the phone, and doing a few other activities. It did not do this on my first purchase of the phone and i'm a bit weary of the temps as sometiems it gets quite warm!
Currently I'm on O.E. SGS II Rom w/ root, that's about it! No OC no mods or anything of that sort. (Just CWM and Root).
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, as this heat as caused me from using my phone each day more and more.
P.S. I WAS on Juggernaut Rom and then flashed back to Stock, and it was having this heating issue then, should i try to do a complete 100% wipe like on one of the development threads and start from scratch like I just got the phone from the factory again? I wiped my system using Odin and it seems to of kept my old programs, no information like games and etc. was kept however, does anyone think that might be the problem? Once again thanks!
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If you are rooted you might want to try a different kernel and maybe SetCPU. I had some overheating/temp issues a while back and after I lowered my CPU a bit and set it to an Ondemand state with a profile for screen off running CPU very low when not actively in use it seemed to fix the problem.. Btw SetCPU is free for XDA users, there is a thread somewhere in the Android Hacking Apps forum..
GL
Edit: I thought it was free to xda users, I checked and cant find the thread, maybe I was wrong or they changed it..

ty VoiD
I'm on the stock kernal, I was on the modified 1.7ghz kernal before i believe, as I could overclock over that, but i just recently stopped that and went back to stock. I was and still am expecting the phone to malfunction on me sometime soon lol. It's been a really reliable phone so far! My G1 and Mytouch 3G slide (gf's phone) took soo many dumps on me while I used it. Each of those phones were probably sent back 5-8 times and they were kept completely stock for a while!
Back on subject though. Any kernals that go well with the factory rom? I don't favor any aftermarket roms right now as they're not stable enough for my usage IMO.

I have heat problems but I've always had the stock kernel...
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA

Undervolt at the stock clock if you want to lower temps. However, charging will always increase heat especially if you are using the phone at the same time, and depending on ambient temps.

Dude my moms sgsII literally got fried because it heated up once. She was using her phone normally and all of a sudden it started heating up. She kept using it and the next day the phone won't turn on, charge or get into download mode. It looked like what a hard brick would look like. So I just returned it for a HTC one S.
Btw she was on full stock.
My phone heats up a lot because I'm down south with 90-95 degree temps and I keep phone in the car dock by the windshield but it never failed on me.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA

I thought it was a well fixable issue. Guess not? lol... Either way, everytime my batt temps rise, i notice i get 40-45C and i start to get worried. So if i'm in a car, i'd just put it next to the AC vent while the car's running and temps get down to about 25C and i'm good again. I just don't feel comfortable with the phone anymore like I use to. It never did this before, why now??

I have an app that warns when it goes over 40 and it happens daily. I was downloading torrents one time and it keeps the screen active while downloading and the thing got like 62 celsius before I realized what happened. It almost burnt my hand lol. if your ever in sunlight or palming the phone while using gps on 4g.
overheating is very common with this phone I wouldn't worrie about it to much it is uncomfortable though if in your pocket
Sent from my SGH-T989D using XDA

Also remember, any app that uses hardware acceleration for graphics or video (games, browser, etc.) or gps will cause the phone to heat up if used for a prolonged period of time.
Playing Osmos was like setting my phone on fire.

curry67 said:
I have an app that warns when it goes over 40 and it happens daily. I was downloading torrents one time and it keeps the screen active while downloading and the thing got like 62 celsius before I realized what happened. It almost burnt my hand lol. if your ever in sunlight or palming the phone while using gps on 4g.
overheating is very common with this phone I wouldn't worrie about it to much it is uncomfortable though if in your pocket
Sent from my SGH-T989D using XDA
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Are you sure I shouldn't worry? I mean, I don't want solder points falling off due to too high of a temp. Then again these temps don't even reach 100C yet. I've got the same app too probably, it's a battery monitor that tells u when the phone gets too hot. mine's goes off everytime i'm around 40+
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Also remember, any app that uses hardware acceleration for graphics or video (games, browser, etc.) or gps will cause the phone to heat up if used for a prolonged period of time.
Playing Osmos was like setting my phone on fire.
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Yep, I use GPS and often. It's just so much easier than guessing your way off a piece of paper. But yeah, like you the phone gets soo hottttttt. I have to always put the phone to my AC vent.

It's normal to a point.
These are serious computers we have.
Think of the old P486's back in the day, those things needed huge heat sinks and some even had fans
our phones which is what, 4x the cpu power and not only no heat sink but everything is squished together inbetween a hot screen and a hot battery
That being said, I use a program called A-see, which is to watch my security cameras while out.
And if I forget to close it out (Actually exit the program) It will keep running and running and eventually probably fry my phone
lets put it this way, I will actually start to feel it in my jeans pocket, it gets that hot.
Also I have a program which will alert me if my phone gets to 130 degrees F
And will automatically shut the phone down if it gets to 140
overheat protection or something

I had this issue where whenever I try to charge my phone it would overheat to the point unbearable to touch I went back to stock flash different roms in the end i exchanged it it was still under warranty