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[Q] Leaving Sprint, and my Epic, new phone options. (Suggestions Greatly Appreciated)

Hey all,
First off, I love my Epic, and I will be sad to have to switch to a new carrier, but Sprint is too darn expensive, and Cincinnati Bell is offering cellphones (and a bunch of internet and landlines for our company) plus massive minutes and data for a tiny fraction of what only a few of us would pay for our personal Sprint bills... so naturally, we are moving.
Did I mention we can pick ANY phone from Cincinnati Bell's current or upcoming line-up to receive..... for FREE?
The two 4g phones they have right now are the HTC Panache and the Huawei Ascend X .
They also have a Samsung Vibrant available, which I understand is a Galaxy S phone nearly identicle to our Epic, but without the 4g or the keyboard.
Currently, I am leaning towards the HTC, from all the nice things I heard about the company's handsets in general, and moreso because I have heard zip about the Huawei and it seems a bit chinsey. ( I should add here that he gave us about 4 of the Huaweis to play around with for a bit to test out coverage and data speeds. ) The Huawei is a bit awkward to hold, as it is sharp and thin, whereas I am used to the brick of the Epic in my pocket.
What I ask of all of you is this: Do you have any suggestions on which handset I should grab from these guys? (Remember: It's being given to us, FREE) If so, why? In general, I am trying to either get as close to my Epic experience as possible, or to exceed it. I will miss the keyboard, but I am OK with loosing it.
For the record, I am rooted on my epic with CWM3 and running the latest Frozen Syndicate Mod (and LOVING it ), so ease of rooting, stability and availabilities of quality mods are certainly factors. ... I've just never heard ANYTHING about Huawei and there seems to be a bunch of different kind of info out there for the Panache (It's also call the Glacier and mytouch... I think?)
There you have it! Any suggestions would be killer.
NOTE: I do have access to the 4g Huawei right now, if anyone would like pictures or reviews of it, impressions etc, and I also have the chance soon to get my hands on literally any of the other handsets in their inventory to test out (the Panache, it seems is coming out on Friday). Hopefully I will be able to get a hand on that a bit early, and if so, I'll def. post some info. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, let me know, and also if anyone wants me to grab a given phone for a test run to review on here, I'm more than happy to try!
Thanks!
tl;dr: Moving from sprint to cincinnati bell, I currently have a epic, whats the best phone I can get from them?

like keyboards? where are those phones. that htc look like a mytouch slide. does it have one?

Sprint too expensive sorry but your nuts. Ever heard the statement you get what you pay for. If you make the switch I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE BACK. Why would you even consider a local company next to a national company just sounds ridiculous. They have to throw all those extra incentives at you because their service blows.

jbadboy2007 said:
Sprint too expensive sorry but your nuts. Ever heard the statement you get what you pay for. If you make the switch I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE BACK. Why would you even consider a local company next to a national company just sounds ridiculous. They have to throw all those extra incentives at you because their service blows.
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I would appreciate not being called nuts, first off.
Second: Between myself, my fiance and my mother, we have a 1500 minute shared plan + "unlimited" data and the extra 9.99 / month for my epic 4g data. We average between 325 and 400 per month.
The plan they are offering us gives us 5 4g phones, unlimited data and 3000 minutes, all for under 300 dollars.
In terms of service, I've never been a huge fan of sprint, I rarely have anything more than 2 bars of 3g coverage, and in many places less. Their 4g network in this area is abysmal, also.
In any case, I was asking about which of those phones people thought to be equivalent or superior to my current phone, not about whether I should switch. I have been continually disappointed with sprint service for years, this is just the final nail in the coffin.

jbadboy2007 said:
Sprint too expensive sorry but your nuts. Ever heard the statement you get what you pay for. If you make the switch I GUARANTEE YOU WILL BE BACK. Why would you even consider a local company next to a national company just sounds ridiculous. They have to throw all those extra incentives at you because their service blows.
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Also, in taking the loaner phones around they gave us, comparing relative signal strength and speed as I drive around town, the CinBell phone is consistently the dominate force in terms of signal strength, quality and data speed.

austin420 said:
like keyboards? where are those phones. that htc look like a mytouch slide. does it have one?
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Nah, none of them have the keyboards unfortunately, thats why I'm trying to find the best phone to get given their lineup. Would you go for the HTC over the Huawei?

Get the vibrant. Its a galaxy s and it like the epic with no keyboard. And the vibrant community has a lot of roms including a stable cm7 and miui gingerbread
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The HTC page you linked states it's already on Gingerbread, the other is still Froyo. You should do your research on how often/if that phone gets upgrades. Basically find out which phone is closest to end-of-life.
To the guy who called him nuts for dropping a national carrier for a local: To each their own man. The OP found something that works for his needs. What's the issue? Roaming charges? It's an assumed cost of doing business when jumping to a local carrier.

blueoxide said:
Hey all,
First off, I love my Epic, and I will be sad to have to switch to a new carrier, but Sprint is too darn expensive, and Cincinnati Bell is offering cellphones (and a bunch of internet and landlines for our company) plus massive minutes and data for a tiny fraction of what only a few of us would pay for our personal Sprint bills... so naturally, we are moving.
Did I mention we can pick ANY phone from Cincinnati Bell's current or upcoming line-up to receive..... for FREE?
The two 4g phones they have right now are the HTC Panache and the Huawei Ascend X .
They also have a Samsung Vibrant available, which I understand is a Galaxy S phone nearly identicle to our Epic, but without the 4g or the keyboard.
Currently, I am leaning towards the HTC, from all the nice things I heard about the company's handsets in general, and moreso because I have heard zip about the Huawei and it seems a bit chinsey. ( I should add here that he gave us about 4 of the Huaweis to play around with for a bit to test out coverage and data speeds. ) The Huawei is a bit awkward to hold, as it is sharp and thin, whereas I am used to the brick of the Epic in my pocket.
What I ask of all of you is this: Do you have any suggestions on which handset I should grab from these guys? (Remember: It's being given to us, FREE) If so, why? In general, I am trying to either get as close to my Epic experience as possible, or to exceed it. I will miss the keyboard, but I am OK with loosing it.
For the record, I am rooted on my epic with CWM3 and running the latest Frozen Syndicate Mod (and LOVING it ), so ease of rooting, stability and availabilities of quality mods are certainly factors. ... I've just never heard ANYTHING about Huawei and there seems to be a bunch of different kind of info out there for the Panache (It's also call the Glacier and mytouch... I think?)
There you have it! Any suggestions would be killer.
NOTE: I do have access to the 4g Huawei right now, if anyone would like pictures or reviews of it, impressions etc, and I also have the chance soon to get my hands on literally any of the other handsets in their inventory to test out (the Panache, it seems is coming out on Friday). Hopefully I will be able to get a hand on that a bit early, and if so, I'll def. post some info. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, let me know, and also if anyone wants me to grab a given phone for a test run to review on here, I'm more than happy to try!
Thanks!
tl;dr: Moving from sprint to cincinnati bell, I currently have a epic, whats the best phone I can get from them?
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Can i have your epic???

blueoxide said:
Nah, none of them have the keyboards unfortunately, thats why I'm trying to find the best phone to get given their lineup. Would you go for the HTC over the Huawei?
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Get the Panache, its the same phone as the Mytouch 4G without the god awful mytouch logo.

I voted for other because nothing was not an option.
I have had a great experience with Sprint and don't plan on leaving when my contract is up.

You shoulda got 3 unlimited everythings for cheaper than your shared plan duh. But if sprint in your area is not as good than that's a different matter. I've been with sprint for 8 years and they are excellent

I suppose I should also mention that along with this we are overhauling all of our business land lines, internet, dedicated internet/phone lines for security and camera etc and cinbell is offering one mega-package for us etc. The plan details are apples to oranges I'd imagine.

Screen size = Huawei (4G)
Hardware = Samsung (no 4G)
Roms = HTC (4G)
Voted "Other" because non of those options are > the Epic all around.

Looked through the phones and I would go with the Panache. It has Gingerbread, more RAM than the Ascend (768MB vs 512MB) and it has 4G, which the Vibrant does not. The Ascend concerns me a bit...it just came out, and it has Froyo on it. Who knows if and when it would get Gingerbread and a few places I see reviews for it refer to it as "low-cost" and "low-end". Not to say it doesn't have a lot of features, but that is how it is referred to (Which on the low-end of the phone market, the phone rates well) If you are getting the phones for free, I would think the HTC would be the winner for you. Cincinnati Bell looks to have good plans and good national coverage... I don't think you will be disappointed. Best of luck to you!

I would really use the loaner you have for awhile.. I myself had cincinnati bell and the signal was horrible all over the west side of town and northern ky.. I have three friends who jumped into cincy bells low rates they advertised.. And really in the end they are still paying more that the sprint bill.. But if you are on a huge corporate deal price will be cheaper.. But those friends are constantly asking me to text so and so or call someone cause they all constantly have signal issues.. So I would def check that the signal is good in the areas you most frequent. just giving some personal experience. But if the signal is there for you jump on that good deal..

Ever consider flashing to a prepaid unlimited plan?

yeah im pretty sure sprint is among the cheapest and has some of the best phones, service, and coverage. only verizon bats spint on the coverage. im am on a family plan with three phones, unlimited everything, 1400 minutes i believe, and 4g for my epic. it totals to about $120 something a month.
my dad on the other hand has verizon. he just bought the new iphone, unlimited everything, and 1400 minutes too. he pays about $75 a month. 4g for verizon is like $20 or $30 (i cant remember). thats outrageous compared to the $10 a month for 4g on sprint.
i really suggest sitting down, working out a budget, working out a reasonable phone plan to work with that budget, compare different phone services, and research phones for each. i think youll find that sprint is among the best and cheapest.
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blueoxide said:
I would appreciate not being called nuts, first off.
Second: Between myself, my fiance and my mother, we have a 1500 minute shared plan + "unlimited" data and the extra 9.99 / month for my epic 4g data. We average between 325 and 400 per month.
The plan they are offering us gives us 5 4g phones, unlimited data and 3000 minutes, all for under 300 dollars.
In terms of service, I've never been a huge fan of sprint, I rarely have anything more than 2 bars of 3g coverage, and in many places less. Their 4g network in this area is abysmal, also.
In any case, I was asking about which of those phones people thought to be equivalent or superior to my current phone, not about whether I should switch. I have been continually disappointed with sprint service for years, this is just the final nail in the coffin.
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i think u r not right about comparing minutes... remember sprint gives unlimited calls to any mobile phones... n plus i have 5 phones n pay under 200 w/ all 4g phones. that includes everything.... not saying that to convince u. but what u said is not right at all about plan... n i love sprint. their C.S is the greatest. peaceee
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my 1500 everything data plan with 3 lines, 2 premium data fees, 2 insurance fees, and an airave, with my meager corperate discount comes to 171.36 per month. i can bundle this with my time warner cable bill for more savings, since they are partners, but i prefer not to have all my eggs in one basket. id hate to get everything cut off at once if i were late. i can do with out cable, or phone. but never both at once!

What next?

evo's are EOL... but still rocking.... whats coming down the pipe for sprint>... all the new phones coming out i dig are all on verizon, and att... wtf..
come on sprint... jackin us for our plans....... give us something... and not the iphone...grrrr

+1 on not the iphone
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that new Edge looks sick... now the ZETA!... come on... sprint better pick up something or im' jumping ship!
plus lte for Verizon, my buddy's getting like 16-18mb down!..something nuts

This is just my hunch, but I would expect the current generation (SGSII, Photon, Evo3D) is the last set of high end new phones we'll see on Sprint until the LTE network is ready. Those phones are still competitive with the best out there, with the Galaxy Nexus being the exception. The 3 flagships they have right now will last long enough to tide them over until the summer when they start introducing LTE devices. I certainly could be wrong, but I don't think it'd make a lot of sense to invest in developing and marketing new WiMax phones at this point (unless they're dual-mode WiMax/LTE).

I agree with the last post. The nexus galaxy and the droid razor beat the EVO but not enough for me to spend $300 on.
I moved this spring out of Sprint coverage and have been using my EVO on prepaid carriers waiting for Verizon or ATT to come out with something worth signing a contact for.
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The EVO was a huge thing for Sprint, so I have to imagine they want to capitalize on the good will they earned with a lot of customers who probably signed up for 2 year contracts. Expect something big on the Sprint network around June/July this year. Likely with the EVO branding.
If there is a proper "EVO 2" type device around the time my contract ends, I almost want to buy it without even knowing the specs.

So long, and thanks for all the ROMs!

Sprint has been frustrating me for the last year, with dropped calls, no service, slow data speeds, when I had amazing speeds, and great coverage from May 2007 - Jan 2011. So, I switched to Big Red. I know it costs more, but I'm getting what I pay for.
The Epic 4G Touch is probably the best phone I've ever owned. And I've enjoyed the support it has received from the talented devs. I really hope Sprint gets its act together, and fixes their network, as I know I'm not the only one who has been complaining about Sprint service.
Maybe I'll be back one day. Keep fighting the good fight. I hope Sprint comes through for you.

tokuzumi said:
Sprint has been frustrating me for the last year, with dropped calls, no service, slow data speeds, when I had amazing speeds, and great coverage from May 2007 - Jan 2011. So, I switched to Big Red. I know it costs more, but I'm getting what I pay for.
The Epic 4G Touch is probably the best phone I've ever owned. And I've enjoyed the support it has received from the talented devs. I really hope Sprint gets its act together, and fixes their network, as I know I'm not the only one who has been complaining about Sprint service.
Maybe I'll be back one day. Keep fighting the good fight. I hope Sprint comes through for you.
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I thanked you solely for the title of this thread.
Good luck over on VZW.
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blackroseMD1 said:
I thanked you solely for the title of this thread.
Good luck over on VZW.
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Agree the title reminds me of something...... something about fish

reddragon72 said:
Agree the title reminds me of something...... something about fish
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Now I have the song from the movie stuck in my head hahaha
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OP. Were you at the end of your contract?
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I left verizon to go to sprint because my wife didn't want to leave. I struggled for almost 2 years w that crap. I left and went back to verizon recently and we are about to get 4g lte here. I couldn't be happier. Once she comes over I will be paying $20 more a month for vastly different service. Sprint would have been nice had they given what they offered. She has the gs2 also and while its a fantastic phone it is poorly represented on sprints terrible network in my area.
You won't be sad to be paying more. No more mad at the world because I can't receive an mms lol.

I did have to pay to get out of my contract (my phone was the only one with remaining time). I read the ETF fee schedule, and I calculated my ETF at $160. I was hoping to get out of my ETF by using the change in the way Sprint discounts the family plans. I missed the deadline by a few days. However, they said my ETF was $90. And, by buying the phones through Amazon, we saved $400. I'll just put my 4G Touch up for sale, as well as the wife's Evo 4G, and I will more than pay for the cost of the phones, as well as the ETF. I will probably be able to pay most of the first month's bill with that, too.

stkiswr said:
I left verizon to go to sprint because my wife didn't want to leave. I struggled for almost 2 years w that crap. I left and went back to verizon recently and we are about to get 4g lte here. I couldn't be happier. Once she comes over I will be paying $20 more a month for vastly different service. Sprint would have been nice had they given what they offered. She has the gs2 also and while its a fantastic phone it is poorly represented on sprints terrible network in my area.
You won't be sad to be paying more. No more mad at the world because I can't receive an mms lol.
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Once that LTE comes to your area, you won't be able to wipe the grin off of your face.

Well I got sprint to waive my ETFs but they said I have to return my phones! Wtf?!
What's the point then?
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Hey, just when I thought we were running out of these "I'm leaving" threads, another pops up. #coolstorybro

_metalhead_ said:
so sorry to hear about your departure, you should totally make a thread about it.
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I have Verizon for work and have a couple dropped calls a day. Never had one on my sprint. In the Washington dc area
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SwampGoblin might buy your device....
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kingdazy said:
SwampGoblin might buy your device....
Sent from my calculator watch.
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I take it there is a good back-story with this? I'm not up on my politics in this forum, so you will have to forgive me...

I have E4GT as private phone and iPhone 4S from VZM as a business phone.
I know those are different phones with different hardware/software but I counldn't help to notice that I always have better signal and reception with my E4GT.
In some areas where I don't have reception at all with my iPhone I'm still getting signal on my E4GT.
And I moved to sprint from AT&T 2.5 years ago because in my area AT&T had a worse service/signal ever.
So may be sprint is not a fastest network but so far it was the best for me for area where I leave and where I travel most.

niv3d said:
Well I got sprint to waive my ETFs but they said I have to return my phones! Wtf?!
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How'd you get them to waive it? My data dips as low as 0.05 mbps on Long Island. It feels like 56k dialup. I don't know how Sprint can legally sell data plans on Long Island. It's soooo bad and it's only getting worse. The tower upgrades did NOTHING.
I really don't want to spend hours on the phone trying to convince 10 different reps to waive the ETF. I'm thinking of just paying the $350 ETF, selling the phone on ebay, and switch to AT&T or Verizon. At least their data works here.
What's the alternative? Keep spending $90/month for a data plan that I can't use? Absolutely ridiculous.

Stay Frosty said:
How'd you get them to waive it? My data dips as low as 0.05 mbps on Long Island. It feels like 56k dialup. I don't know how Sprint can legally sell data plans on Long Island. It's soooo bad and it's only getting worse. The tower upgrades did NOTHING.
I really don't want to spend hours on the phone trying to convince 10 different reps to waive the ETF. I'm thinking of just paying the $350 ETF, selling the phone on ebay, and switch to AT&T or Verizon. At least their data works here.
What's the alternative? Keep spending $90/month for a data plan that I can't use? Absolutely ridiculous.
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Seriously .....rant to sprint we can't do anything, hope you feel better bro
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I picked my nose. I should start a thread about it.

tokuzumi said:
I take it there is a good back-story with this? I'm not up on my politics in this forum, so you will have to forgive me...
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Swamp Goblin is a dev who happens to be looking for an E4GT so he can start working on new ROM goodness for our phones. He's been looking on Craigslist and ebay but don't think he's had any real success yet. There's a thread that explains it all if you want to contact him.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572184
Also I think sextape (again not an inside joke) might be looking for one, but don't quote me on that.

I would go to At&t before Verizon. You know At&t is a union company. If my family didn't work for Sprint that is where i would go. At least you know their employees get treated better.
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[Q] After your contract is up...will you be staying on Sprint??

My Contract is up in January. And I don't believe i'm staying with Sprint. I pay only $82 with my employee discount and I like the whole "Unlimited" but I feel as if with the whole slow data and never getting a chance to experience "4G", on my Epic 4G, I may change to T-Mobile or its MVNO "Simple Mobile"
What about you guys?
Edit: I believe I posted this in the wrong section if it fits in the General Discussion threads can someone move it their or if it's fine here then ok lol. Just don't want people flaming me

Phantomg93 said:
My Contract is up in January. And I don't believe i'm staying with Sprint. I pay only $82 with my employee discount and I like the whole "Unlimited" but I feel as if with the whole slow data and never getting a chance to experience "4G", on my Epic 4G, I may change to T-Mobile or its MVNO "Simple Mobile"
What about you guys?
Edit: I believe I posted this in the wrong section if it fits in the General Discussion threads can someone move it their or if it's fine here then ok lol. Just don't want people flaming me
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Its a question but at the same time its more of a discussion to talk about so I think its fine here, but honestly if I change cariers id be paying 200 +, and right now I'm at 196 for 3 lines, with tep for every line, and 1400 shared mins.
And I don't care for 4g I don't rely on it. If I need **** done that fast I have it done before I'm on the road. And wherever I go 3g doesn't take so long so I'm good and if it is so what I'm saving money
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Its a question but at the same time its more of a discussion to talk about so I think its fine here, but honestly if I change cariers id be paying 200 +, and right now I'm at 196 for 3 lines, with tep for every line, and 1400 shared mins.
And I don't care for 4g I don't rely on it. If I need **** done that fast I have it done before I'm on the road. And wherever I go 3g doesn't take so long so I'm good and if it is so what I'm saving money
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Yeah I see in your situation staying seems the good option and I don't need 4G either but I wish I could personally see how fast it is compared to 3G you know. And where I live I don't get that great signal nor speeds. I always feel like im on edge with my usual 200kbps down lol

Phantomg93 said:
the whole slow data
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Have you considered getting the Sprint AIRAVE ? You could get it for free if you're speeds are terrible (as wth the rest of us) http://now.sprint.com/airave/?id16=airave

Jbluna said:
Have you considered getting the Sprint AIRAVE ? You could get it for free if you're speeds are terrible (as wth the rest of us) http://now.sprint.com/airave/?id16=airave
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Had no idea they even had that. But if my data outside around my area sucks, would this change anything really?

Phantomg93 said:
Had no idea they even had that. But if my data outside around my area sucks, would this change anything really?
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Nope only works in your house lol I have one its works through out my entire house and my house is pretty big. I would recommend it if your signal sucks at home.
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CrfEpic4g said:
Nope only works in your house lol I have one its works through out my entire house and my house is pretty big. I would recommend it if your signal sucks at home.
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Oh neh my signal inside is actually the same outside as well, except in the basement of course. I honestly can say i've probably seen my Epic hit 1.5mbps down less than 10 times since 5months ago when I downloaded the speedtest app. It's a fun app

Honestly by the time that Jan rolls around i'm sure youll have a different opionion of Sprint.
I'm one of the biggest Sprint haters there are (i've had them since my original SERO plan though, but i also keep my T-Mobile line as well - both have their ups and downs)
to be honest, Sprint has been getting a lot better lately (it seems like they just flipped something here in Phoenix about two weeks ago), as i went from .2 down to 1.2Mbps down pretty much everywhere i go, and the whole WiMax "4G" thing, just get an LTE phone and you'll get way better "4G" than the epic could ever handle anyway.
Some people are randomly reporting 4G LTE on their Evo LTE phones and i've seen results as high as 42Mbps posted around, so that's what i'd be looking forward too if i were you

yes

I love sprint. verizon may be faster, but sprint is way cheaper unless you get some kind of discount with verizon. I don't need blazing fast speeds, my wifi takes care of that!

I was THIS close to ditching Sprint. Even called and put in a request to cancel, opened service with T-Mobile, bought an HTC One S... but T-Mobile's coverage just wasn't good enough. Undid everything (the Sprint cancellation hadn't gone through yet), returned the One S, canceled T-Mobile.
I am out of contract but my wife is still under contract until September. At that point we will move on to another carrier. The thing about Sprint is despite their offering more for the same cost as the other carriers, they also don't have any option of paying less to get less-inclusive service. Say I want to save money by ditching the texting plan and using Google Voice instead, or maybe I don't need 1500 minutes and I'd rather save some dosh by reducing that number. Those are options on the other carriers but not Sprint.
Not that Sprint is a bad price for what you get, but you can save $20-$50/mo on the other carriers. That combined with the slow data has me wanting to move elsewhere. Wish T-Mobile had worked out because they're by far the cheapest, but now it's looking like Verizon. Only problem with them is their love of locked down Motorola phones. But their LTE coverage is awesome, they have LTE at my parents' house (where I get 1 bar on Sprint and no coverage at all on T-Mobile).

Mama Luigi said:
I was THIS close to ditching Sprint. Even called and put in a request to cancel, opened service with T-Mobile, bought an HTC One S... but T-Mobile's coverage just wasn't good enough. Undid everything (the Sprint cancellation hadn't gone through yet), returned the One S, canceled T-Mobile.
I am out of contract but my wife is still under contract until September. At that point we will move on to another carrier. The thing about Sprint is despite their offering more for the same cost as the other carriers, they also don't have any option of paying less to get less-inclusive service. Say I want to save money by ditching the texting plan and using Google Voice instead, or maybe I don't need 1500 minutes and I'd rather save some dosh by reducing that number. Those are options on the other carriers but not Sprint.
Not that Sprint is a bad price for what you get, but you can save $20-$50/mo on the other carriers. That combined with the slow data has me wanting to move elsewhere. Wish T-Mobile had worked out because they're by far the cheapest, but now it's looking like Verizon. Only problem with them is their love of locked down Motorola phones. But their LTE coverage is awesome, they have LTE at my parents' house (where I get 1 bar on Sprint and no coverage at all on T-Mobile).
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Your not very great at making decisions before you pursue them do you?
I mean you just dont go and sign up with another carrier and buying a phone without knowing how their service is, etc... and you hadn't even completed the cancelation process with sprint.
And you too can lower your plan by shared minutes and other things...
Dude you have the choice of 700,1400, or 2.... or unlimited shared minutes.
And at my grandparents place its the same 1 bar but who cares it still works decent and uh did we forget about WiFi? haha.
Coverage isn't the ultimate ground breaking deal factor into choosing a carrier, yes its a factor but if its decent its fine by most people's standard it is.
And No matter who i go to besides Sprint my bill with 3 lines and everything unlimited except shared minutes is above 200+ and i have a 20%+ discount depending on the carrier.

XxLostSoulxX said:
Your not very great at making decisions before you pursue them do you?
I mean you just dont go and sign up with another carrier and buying a phone without knowing how their service is, etc... and you hadn't even completed the cancelation process with sprint.
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I was trying it out. My contract is up (my wife's isn't) so I figured why not give T-Mobile a shot. If I like them I'll leave Sprint. If not, that's why there's a 14-day grace period. Loved the phone of course. The coverage just wasn't quite there. I specifically chose this past weekend because I was traveling a lot and I wanted to see how my service was in various places.
I knew from the outset that I would be roaming with T-Mobile most of the time. They don't have native coverage in central and eastern Wisconsin. I can deal with it, but the thing is once my wife's contract is up with Sprint she's going to hop on whatever provider I have, and she didn't want to be stuck on T-Mobile. So that's why I got rid of it.
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And you too can lower your plan by shared minutes and other things...
Dude you have the choice of 700,1400, or 2.... or unlimited shared minutes.
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I'm already on Sprint's lowest minute plan and I can't go any lower. 1500 shared minutes on a family plan is about 1000 more than we use each month. Not saying more minutes is a bad thing, just that I can't save any money by dropping to a lower plan.
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And at my grandparents place its the same 1 bar but who cares it still works decent and uh did we forget about WiFi? haha.
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Yeah my in-laws and parents both have wifi, so of course everything works at their houses. Then again, I feel that if I'm paying over $100 every month for phone service, I should have a phone that works everywhere. Beyond that, I'd rather have a decent smartphone with coverage than an awesome one without.
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Coverage isn't the ultimate ground breaking deal factor into choosing a carrier, yes its a factor but if its decent its fine by most people's standard it is.
And No matter who i go to besides Sprint my bill with 3 lines and everything unlimited except shared minutes is above 200+ and i have a 20%+ discount depending on the carrier.
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Yes, that's the exact issue, and the whole purpose of my post. For people who want unlimited everything, Sprint is probably the cheapest option. If you want every line to be a smartphone, it's also the cheapest option. If you can live with a smaller number of minutes, and are willing to use Google Voice for texting, Sprint actually becomes the most expensive.
Basically Sprint has the lowest maximum cost and the highest minimum cost. Everyone gets a premium plan whether they want it or not. If you want to save a little money, there's nothing you can do. I'm not saying Sprint is a bad carrier; it's just that they're not for everyone. For you they might be a perfect fit.

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Honestly by the time that Jan rolls around i'm sure youll have a different opionion of Sprint.
I'm one of the biggest Sprint haters there are (i've had them since my original SERO plan though, but i also keep my T-Mobile line as well - both have their ups and downs)
to be honest, Sprint has been getting a lot better lately (it seems like they just flipped something here in Phoenix about two weeks ago), as i went from .2 down to 1.2Mbps down pretty much everywhere i go, and the whole WiMax "4G" thing, just get an LTE phone and you'll get way better "4G" than the epic could ever handle anyway.
Some people are randomly reporting 4G LTE on their Evo LTE phones and i've seen results as high as 42Mbps posted around, so that's what i'd be looking forward too if i were you
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Their is no way that can be true about the 42mbps because currently no phone even on LTE can handle that much speed unless their battery dies within 6 minutes lol. And here is my reason for switching:
I like to always stay updated with phones, I usually never have a phone longer than a year without getting a new one that's just me. Coming from T-Mobile I had the easy life of simply buying a phone and switching sim cards and that's it. I never liked cdma phones because they lacked the sim card, so I never bothered buying a sprint phone because 1 I didn't know how to switch my # over to it(now I do) and etc etc it seemed like a hassle.
Another reason is although Sprint has nice phones, they honestly don't have variety compared to T-Mobile. The SG3 would be the only reason I'd stay, but I don't want to pay full price for it and I don't want to stay with my OG Epic till January. I don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee because my job has benefits with Sprint.
In all fairness, besides their unlimited plan that I love, I would stay with the Epic and hold off until January but now paying $90 a month, going to a MVNO like Simple Mobile who uses GSM and T-Mobiles service, I'd save $ and it would definitely help me out financially. So im switching just based on personal reasons and financial that's all.

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I was trying it out. My contract is up (my wife's isn't) so I figured why not give T-Mobile a shot. If I like them I'll leave Sprint. If not, that's why there's a 14-day grace period. Loved the phone of course. The coverage just wasn't quite there. I specifically chose this past weekend because I was traveling a lot and I wanted to see how my service was in various places.
I knew from the outset that I would be roaming with T-Mobile most of the time. They don't have native coverage in central and eastern Wisconsin. I can deal with it, but the thing is once my wife's contract is up with Sprint she's going to hop on whatever provider I have, and she didn't want to be stuck on T-Mobile. So that's why I got rid of it.
I'm already on Sprint's lowest minute plan and I can't go any lower. 1500 shared minutes on a family plan is about 1000 more than we use each month. Not saying more minutes is a bad thing, just that I can't save any money by dropping to a lower plan.
Yeah my in-laws and parents both have wifi, so of course everything works at their houses. Then again, I feel that if I'm paying over $100 every month for phone service, I should have a phone that works everywhere. Beyond that, I'd rather have a decent smartphone with coverage than an awesome one without.
Yes, that's the exact issue, and the whole purpose of my post. For people who want unlimited everything, Sprint is probably the cheapest option. If you want every line to be a smartphone, it's also the cheapest option. If you can live with a smaller number of minutes, and are willing to use Google Voice for texting, Sprint actually becomes the most expensive.
Basically Sprint has the lowest maximum cost and the highest minimum cost. Everyone gets a premium plan whether they want it or not. If you want to save a little money, there's nothing you can do. I'm not saying Sprint is a bad carrier; it's just that they're not for everyone. For you they might be a perfect fit.
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Yeah i can understand i forgot that you said yours was up and not hers but how come you dont have the same time as she does.
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Their is no way that can be true about the 42mbps because currently no phone even on LTE can handle that much speed unless their battery dies within 6 minutes lol. And here is my reason for switching:
I like to always stay updated with phones, I usually never have a phone longer than a year without getting a new one that's just me. Coming from T-Mobile I had the easy life of simply buying a phone and switching sim cards and that's it. I never liked cdma phones because they lacked the sim card, so I never bothered buying a sprint phone because 1 I didn't know how to switch my # over to it(now I do) and etc etc it seemed like a hassle.
Another reason is although Sprint has nice phones, they honestly don't have variety compared to T-Mobile. The SG3 would be the only reason I'd stay, but I don't want to pay full price for it and I don't want to stay with my OG Epic till January. I don't have to pay the Early Termination Fee because my job has benefits with Sprint.
In all fairness, besides their unlimited plan that I love, I would stay with the Epic and hold off until January but now paying $90 a month, going to a MVNO like Simple Mobile who uses GSM and T-Mobiles service, I'd save $ and it would definitely help me out financially. So im switching just based on personal reasons and financial that's all.
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And no, yes you can handle those speeds your most likely never going to hit them in real life performance but it does show its hitting it.
not 40mbps because of their coverage but here

XxLostSoulxX said:
Yeah i can understand i forgot that you said yours was up and not hers but how come you dont have the same time as she does.
And no, yes you can handle those speeds your most likely never going to hit them in real life performance but it does show its hitting it.
not 40mbps because of their coverage but here
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I didn't mean so say it like that but yes LTE can hit those speeds, but on a phone I have yet to see

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I didn't mean so say it like that but yes LTE can hit those speeds, but on a phone I have yet to see
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My video I posted shows about 20Mbps what makes you think another 20 is going to kill the battery any quicker unless its working at those speeds for a long period of time.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
My video I posted shows about 20Mbps what makes you think another 20 is going to kill the battery any quicker unless its working at those speeds for a long period of time.
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Your probably right who knows

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Your probably right who knows
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Okay here it goes last vid post but this is even back in 2011 and VZW hitting 42MBps.

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Okay here it goes last vid post but this is even back in 2011 and VZW hitting 42MBps.
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You do know that version of Speedtest never supported LTE yet right? Especially since LTE truly started rolling out around the time the version was made. So im going to say that this video isn't proof of a phone hitting those speeds rather than a simple glitch...For the Evo hell yes that looks exactly like Sprint network speeds haha...

Sprint to raise prices?

https://www.google.com/producer/edi...w4GowoAgwkRo/sprint_may_boost_plan_prices_whe
My opinion on this is, I still have a bad taste in my mouth after being screwed with 4g coverage so far, and if they do raise prices after finally getting decent 4g I may leave, because the two reasons I went with Sprint is the lower prices and the unlimited data. And I can get both of those at T-Mobile if they do raise prices. And I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that Sprint is skating on thin ice
Unless it's only a few dollars, then if the 4g is worth it I'll stay. But anything more then like a 8 dollar hike I will be mad
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yea but how can they raise prices for non lte devices? were not using their spectrum
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qubanaso said:
yea but how can they raise prices for non lte devices? were not using their spectrum
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That is true, I didn't think of that. They really couldn't unless they give us a free upgrade. Otherwise they will piss allot of people off and lose allot of business
But even so, asking for more money for a better network that should of been of better quality in the first place is pushing their luck
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i wouldnt mind some sort of extra charge as long as they improve wimax and 3g as well
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i wouldnt mind some sort of extra charge as long as they improve wimax and 3g as well
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3g yes but they aren't expanding or improving their wimax anymore, since lte is coming
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Usually when there's a rate increase, it doesn't affect existing customers until they upgrade or change their plan. Even then the rate increase doesn't always affect existing customers unless they change plans, due to grandfathering in on your existing plan. From his wording it would appear there would be no rate increase until late 2013 or early 2014 anyways, since he used the qualifying phrase "after our lte network is completed" which isn't scheduled until q4 2013. Sprints always been pretty good about grandfathering in existing customers anyways, I still have unlimited hotspots on 3 lines and its been capped at 5gb for new hotspots for over a year. I wouldn't care about a rate increase to keep unlimited data anyways, since every other carrier is capped at a Max of 10gb or throttles the piss out of your connection after 5gb(T-Mobile unlimited drops to 2mbps after 5gb and vzw and att only have 10gb plans Max and that's shared on family plans) even if my 5 lines went up $100 it would still he a better deal than any other carrier
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Usually when there's a rate increase, it doesn't affect existing customers until they upgrade or change their plan. Even then the rate increase doesn't always affect existing customers unless they change plans, due to grandfathering in on your existing plan. From his wording it would appear there would be no rate increase until late 2013 or early 2014 anyways, since he used the qualifying phrase "after our lte network is completed" which isn't scheduled until q4 2013. Sprints always been pretty good about grandfathering in existing customers anyways, I still have unlimited hotspots on 3 lines and its been capped at 5gb for new hotspots for over a year. I wouldn't care about a rate increase to keep unlimited data anyways, since every other carrier is capped at a Max of 10gb or throttles the piss out of your connection after 5gb(T-Mobile unlimited drops to 2mbps after 5gb and vzw and att only have 10gb plans Max and that's shared on family plans) even if my 5 lines went up $100 it would still he a better deal than any other carrier
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I guess your right, but T-Mobile switched to truly unlimited this month, for the same price as Sprint 450 everything data, so if they do raise prices more people will go with t mobile, unless sprints network is bad ass by then
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We are already paying the 10 extra for a non working 4g network. Anyway as soon as my contract is up, I am going prepaid.
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Hell no. They raise prices up more than $1, I'm jumping ship to T-Mo. In Miami, T-Mo is fire, and if Sprint is gonna make me pay the same as T-Mo, but with their slow network, then T-Mo it is. They only thing I don't like is their phone selection. :/ I think I'll go for an Unlocked Gnex, with a SIM, or wait for the Note II to hit. But if I can find a Razr Maxx HD for GSM once it gets out, that would be the shiznit.

F3L1XZS said:
Hell no. They raise prices up more than $1, I'm jumping ship to T-Mo. In Miami, T-Mo is fire, and if Sprint is gonna make me pay the same as T-Mo, but with their slow network, then T-Mo it is. They only thing I don't like is their phone selection. :/ I think I'll go for an Unlocked Gnex, with a SIM, or wait for the Note II to hit. But if I can find a Razr Maxx HD for GSM once it gets out, that would be the shiznit.
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they do have the s2 and s3, and pretty soon the note 2, to me those would me one of my choices, but im locked in sprint untill 2014 so i can only speculate untill then

I don't want anymore higher prices. I've been paying 10 extra dollars on 3 lines since the Evo 4G came out. I've had horrible 3G data results since 2010. The wimax speed results I get around me aren't worth bragging either.

ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
they do have the s2 and s3, and pretty soon the note 2, to me those would me one of my choices, but im locked in sprint untill 2014 so i can only speculate untill then
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Yeah, I think I'll wait for the Note II to drop, because I don't even care about screen sizes anymore, all I want is a phone with a humongous battery that will be me through the day, and doesn't bulge my pockets. (I'm looking at you, extended batteries)
But then again, you can't go wrong with a Nexus, Nexus devices are always fairly decent, and development is lightning fast with minor kinks.

F3L1XZS said:
Yeah, I think I'll wait for the Note II to drop, because I don't even care about screen sizes anymore, all I want is a phone with a humongous battery that will be me through the day, and doesn't bulge my pockets. (I'm looking at you, extended batteries)
But then again, you can't go wrong with a Nexus, Nexus devices are always fairly decent, and development is lightning fast with minor kinks.
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hopefully the next nexus is completely orgasmic super high end phone with samsungs exynos 5 processor in it with 2 gigs of ram. if that phone became reality i would seriously consider paying the etf selling my s2 and going to tmobile. All because i want data service thats worth having on a bad ass phone like that. its sad when cricket has better data speeds

Higher prices, ****ty service. Yea, Im switching to AT&T.

ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
hopefully the next nexus is completely orgasmic super high end phone with samsungs exynos 5 processor in it with 2 gigs of ram. if that phone became reality i would seriously consider paying the etf selling my s2 and going to tmobile. All because i want data service thats worth having on a bad ass phone like that. its sad when cricket has better data speeds
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I agree, the next nexus device having the above specs would be pretty orgasmic. As it is right now, though, exynos processors are always behind OMAP processors in terms of official development, which means more time between leaks, stuff breaking every five seconds, crappy battery life, the sort of things we are dealing with right now on ICS and JB. But if Google can figure it out, and also it into the next nexus, then it'll be worth every penny. Good thing is, my upgrade is right after Google I/O, so hopefully, Sprint picks it up, and when they decide to raise prices, I'll drop them, and trade the nexus for a GSM version, and pick up Tmo
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I hope they do, so that I can jump ship to tmobile with no ETF ...

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I bought the International, Unlocked N7000 Galaxy Note. The idea is to move to Straight Talk this weekend. The savings on two lines will pay for the ETF in less then 6 months. Plus I can sell the E4T for a decent price or maybe even trade it. I live in the Roseville / Sacramento area and rarely get 4G. Today it took 6 attempts to upload a picture to Facebook while in the heart of Roseville. This happens all the time. I have tried to get out of my contract since I am currently between jobs but they said "Sorry about you not having a job, but we can't let you out of the contract."

During precal the other day, my friend was playing on his brand new Tmo GS3. In that classroom, my girlfriend, and a few other friends have Sprint. All of them have iPhones, and we all have 1-2 bars fluctuating, though most of the times, they get no reception (Should've skipped out on crapple!) Meanwhile, this kid has 4 bars of service, and his data is so fast, I really wanted to cry.
Ontop of that, any Tmo phone in the Miami area has about 1-2 hours of extra battery life thanks to the badass Tmo towers in the area.
About a year ago, I had the choice of Tmo and Sprint, but I opted for Sprint because they had the better spec'd GS2 out of all the variants, and at that time, my opinion of Tmo was that it sucked balls (imagine me, this naive mother****er who had never tested either Tmo's or Sprint's speeds. Boy, I was really, really ****ing wrong about Tmo.
Right now, I'm considering selling my GS2 in a few months when the price of my etf goes down, and pay the etf with the price of the phone, and use the left overs+some extra money to buy a GS3 or a nexus or something. Or maybe I'll just wait it out till September of next year.
In any case, fingers crossed that Sprint decides to raise their prices, or change some term. I'll keep a close eye on the T&C of the bills every month, and all charges.

F3L1XZS said:
During precal the other day, my friend was playing on his brand new Tmo GS3. In that classroom, my girlfriend, and a few other friends have Sprint. All of them have iPhones, and we all have 1-2 bars fluctuating, though most of the times, they get no reception (Should've skipped out on crapple!) Meanwhile, this kid has 4 bars of service, and his data is so fast, I really wanted to cry.
Ontop of that, any Tmo phone in the Miami area has about 1-2 hours of extra battery life thanks to the badass Tmo towers in the area.
About a year ago, I had the choice of Tmo and Sprint, but I opted for Sprint because they had the better spec'd GS2 out of all the variants, and at that time, my opinion of Tmo was that it sucked balls (imagine me, this naive mother****er who had never tested either Tmo's or Sprint's speeds. Boy, I was really, really ****ing wrong about Tmo.
Right now, I'm considering selling my GS2 in a few months when the price of my etf goes down, and pay the etf with the price of the phone, and use the left overs+some extra money to buy a GS3 or a nexus or something. Or maybe I'll just wait it out till September of next year.
In any case, fingers crossed that Sprint decides to raise their prices, or change some term. I'll keep a close eye on the T&C of the bills every month, and all charges.
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I've had an iPhone 5 on sprint for a couple of days. Data was so slow and I never experienced a drop call until I got an iPhone. I think their radios are just crap....switched back to this phone immediately.
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