All other big carriers for the U.S got or is going to get a second galaxys phone but there is no news on one for sprint. Verizon=continuum. T-mobile=nexus s. AT&T=infuse. What about sprint?
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All other big carriers for the U.S got or is going to get a second galaxys phone but there is no news on one for sprint. Verizon=mesmerize. T-mobile=nexus s. AT&T=infuse. What about sprint?
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i think sprint has something else up its sleeve besides the evo shift
I doubt it, sprints slow to the punch when it comes to nw phones.
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I thought so too.so does any body have any rumors? This is probably the reason the galaxy s phones have such have bad support, they were prototypes of the real deal maybe I think kinda probably most likely. But since specs of the infuse have already come out I'm expecting the epic 2(I'm calling it that until a confirmed name us found) to have way better specs
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It would be dumb to launch another Samsung hummingbird phone at this point. Tegra 2 is clearly where the future is in Android phones and tablets, and the 40 million amazing super phones being unveiled at CES right now are evidence of this.
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It would be dumb to launch another Samsung hummingbird phone at this point. Tegra 2 is clearly where the future is in Android phones and tablets, and the 40 million amazing super phones being unveiled at CES right now are evidence of this.
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Well they're launching the infuse aren't they
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It seems like all the awesome high powered phones are going to at&t and verizon. What the hell? Why is sprint so slow with the new phones? I mean the EVO shift 4g, come on. Piece of crap. They seem to be more geared on releasing mid grade crap than getting some high end stuff out there. I just looked over engadget about some of the phones at CES and didn't see anything new being released from sprint. Did I miss anything? Did anyone else see any new high end phones coming to sprint?
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All other big carriers for the U.S got or is going to get a second galaxys phone but there is no news on one for sprint. Verizon=mesmerize. T-mobile=nexus s. AT&T=infuse. What about sprint?
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isnt mezmerize the usc varient of the galaxy S aka a fascinate renamed..
to be fair Verizon will have 3 galaxy s phones...Fascinate, Continuum, the 4g phone
and knowing sprint they wont release another top tier phone after the shift for at least 3 month >.>
Oh my bad I just keep on getting the names mixed up. Nice catch
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It would be dumb to launch another Samsung hummingbird phone at this point. Tegra 2 is clearly where the future is in Android phones and tablets, and the 40 million amazing super phones being unveiled at CES right now are evidence of this.
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This is just a continuation of Google working with different hardware manufacturers with each version of Android. HTC/Qualcom snapdragon with Nexus One and Froyo, Samsung hummingbird with Nexus S and Gingerbread, and now NVidia Tegra 2 with Honeycomb. The dual-core hummingbird can easily go toe to toe with the Tegra 2. It just wasn't Google's partner for this current iteration of android development.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/support/brochures/downloads/systemlsi/Orion.pdf
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3901/going-out-of-order-samsung-announces-orion-cortex-a9-soc
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This is just a continuation of Google working with different hardware manufacturers with each version of Android. HTC/Qualcom snapdragon with Nexus One and Froyo, Samsung hummingbird with Nexus S and Gingerbread, and now NVidia Tegra 2 with Honeycomb. The dual-core hummingbird can easily go toe to toe with the Tegra 2. It just wasn't Google's partner for this current iteration of android development.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/support/brochures/downloads/systemlsi/Orion.pdf
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3901/going-out-of-order-samsung-announces-orion-cortex-a9-soc
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Well who knows if the orion gets used at all especially after this
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/19/samsung-nabs-tegra-2-for-galaxy-tab-2-google-makes-tegra-the-ho/
Yea, I dont know what Orion is capable of, but I am pretty damn sure that Tegra 2 is awesome as hell from what I have seen.
That only shows that the Tab will be using the Tegra 2...for the cellphone they may go with Orion for it..
If I remember correctly the Orion is 32nm..while Tegra 2 is 40nm..so the Orion should be more energy efficient then and a better choice for cellphones...
If the Blackberry Playbook is using the Orion, then I am impressed. There is no indication that it IS using the Orion, but it could be. Until I see an Orion processor do what a Tegra 2 can do, I will be rooting for the Tegra 2 to come to Sprint.
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If the Blackberry Playbook is using the Orion, then I am impressed. There is no indication that it IS using the Orion, but it could be. Until I see an Orion processor do what a Tegra 2 can do, I will be rooting for the Tegra 2 to come to Sprint.
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The Orion has an ARM Mali GPU is the rumor..
According to Samsung it dishes out 267Mtri/s & 1.6Gpix/s..which seems pretty good to me :/
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The Orion has an ARM Mali GPU is the rumor..
According to Samsung it dishes out 267Mtri/s & 1.6Gpix/s..which seems pretty good to me :/
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We're gonna need benchmarks of real world applications like games to verify this. Triangles and gigapixels is not representative often real world performance.
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We're gonna need benchmarks of real world applications like games to verify this. Triangles and gigapixels is not representative often real world performance.
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We don't even have a real world performance of the Tegra 2 chip..so far only real performance we got was on 1 core and we don't even know if it was optimized or not or anything for the matter...while it may not be an indication that the Orion is better then the Tegra 2..its a good enough indication to say its at least on par...
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We don't even have a real world performance of the Tegra 2 chip..so far only real performance we got was on 1 core and we don't even know if it was optimized or not or anything for the matter...while it may not be an indication that the Orion is better then the Tegra 2..its a good enough indication to say its at least on par...
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On the contrary:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4054/first-look-viewsonic-gtablet-and-tegra-2-performance-preview/2
GPU performance is not that impressive compared to the Hummingbird, but CPU is.
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On the contrary:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4054/first-look-viewsonic-gtablet-and-tegra-2-performance-preview/2
GPU performance is not that impressive compared to the Hummingbird, but CPU is.
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The CPU scores are expected because its a Cortex A9..any Cortex A9 will always be better then a Cortex A8..still those scores are not optimizing the Hummingbird 100% and probably not optimizing the Tegra 2 either..and is using a single core..
Each CPU in the Tegra 2 also has its own GPU so you can estimate 1.6-2x the scores its getting now minimum
I think sprints next big thing will be windows 7 phones.
Related
One of these phones is not like the others, one of these phones just doesn't belong...
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/08/t-mobile-didnt-show-galaxy-s-ii-device-because-of-processor-changes/
So, is anyone else a bit concerned about the rumor that the TMo Galaxy II processor differs from the Sprint/AT&T versions? Aren't kernels build and optimized to a specific processor?
Any of you Vibrant owners with a unique GPS chip ready to plunk down a whole bunch of cash on a brand new phone and wait for Samsung/TMobile to develop and release a special version of Android each time there's a newer version released by the mothership?
...just curious.
I'll buy it...
Then sell it and use the money towards a nexus 3 purchase. Not messing with t mobile-Samsung tag team of rape like this vibrant. The development will be fairly small and most of the Ports of roms probably won't happen because the phone is so different from the international version that normally gets regular updates. Or I might try the next best thing from HTC at least they upgrade their phones even through t mobile
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Nah I'm not worried, maybe it will be 1.5ghz like the original rumors, maybe not the Exynos but a guaranteed dual.core beast. .. and it would meen access to T-Mobile fastest speeds and that's cool..
Honestly people whining about updates are just dumb, when we got froyo many devices didn't have it yet, and many devices now do not have gingerbread .. we may or may not get an "official " release but its not like we don't have functional Gingerbread now and that's something not all devices can say even on XDA ..
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Nah I'm not worried, maybe it will be 1.5ghz like the original rumors, maybe not the Exynos but a guaranteed dual.core beast. .. and it would meen access to T-Mobile fastest speeds and that's cool..
Honestly people whining about updates are just dumb, when we got froyo many devices didn't have it yet, and many devices now do not have gingerbread .. we may or may not get an "official " release but its not like we don't have functional Gingerbread now and that's something not all devices can say even on XDA ..
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True but you forget just how long it's taken for these GB builds to lose most of their bugs. I love my Sensation because it's the same identical phone that's used all around the world so if one of them gets a new OS update it will work flawlessly. If this Hercules is not like the others then I'd bet anything that the dev community will be very thin (even thinner than the vibrant community). Phones these days are only as good as the chefs that cook for them. Just something to think about. Instead of having the same GS2 all around the world every carrier gets a slightly modified version making it a pain in the ass to flash roms between them all.
i will not buy it if it has a qualcomm instead of exynos.
This is interesting!
Kies Air: Samsung’s Kies software has been used in the past to update Samsung phones since before Android, but it got abandoned slightly for the Over The Air promises made with Android. When a device doesn’t get an update in a timely manner, the blame machine gets pointed in every which direction with incredible delays sometimes. By removing the carrier from the equation, Samsung has opted to use their own software solution to update their devices. This could possibly be a move by Samsung towards the update alliance proposed by Google at this year’s IO, but what it will do for sure is remove one less person to blame.
Here's the link to the whole article:
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/what-makes-the-galaxy-s2-worth-it-in-the-us-20110831/
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i will not buy it if it has a qualcomm instead of exynos.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/4707/usa-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-variants-announced
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Nah I'm not worried, maybe it will be 1.5ghz like the original rumors, maybe not the Exynos but a guaranteed dual.core beast. .. and it would meen access to T-Mobile fastest speeds and that's cool..
Honestly people whining about updates are just dumb, when we got froyo many devices didn't have it yet, and many devices now do not have gingerbread .. we may or may not get an "official " release but its not like we don't have functional Gingerbread now and that's something not all devices can say even on XDA ..
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1) You would rather have a device that has download capable throughput that is higher then you will get in almost every instance from a server you are requesting data from for a fraction of the time you use the device compared a significantly stronger CPU that you will be using every time you use the phone? Add to the throttling that TMobile does and that seems like a huge sacrifice.
2) Rom support aside, the point is the Vibrant was handicapped from the beginning and was never what it could have been. GB Roms are far from perfect in every instance. Yes they are functional, but no where close to what they could have been or would be with source code. There are devices far newer then ours that shipped with Froyo and received GB. The Vibrant was a Flagship device.
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no new info, it's still the same speculation.
its not gonna have a snapdragon! it will be qualcom
Coming to its processing power,the Hercules is said to be powered by Qualcomm APQ8060 chip which is a dual-core chip clocked in at 1.5GHZ.Google’s upcoming Nexus 4G also called as Samsung Nexus Prime and iPhone 5 all will be using this same processor.
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its not gonna have a snapdragon! it will be qualcom
Coming to its processing power,the Hercules is said to be powered by Qualcomm APQ8060 chip which is a dual-core chip clocked in at 1.5GHZ.Google’s upcoming Nexus 4G also called as Samsung Nexus Prime and iPhone 5 all will be using this same processor.
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qualcomm makes snapdragon, so even if its not labeled as such, its essentially the same thing...certainly different from exynos and tegra
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its not gonna have a snapdragon! it will be qualcom
Coming to its processing power,the Hercules is said to be powered by Qualcomm APQ8060 chip which is a dual-core chip clocked in at 1.5GHZ.Google’s upcoming Nexus 4G also called as Samsung Nexus Prime and iPhone 5 all will be using this same processor.
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The apq8060 is a snapdragon s3 chip dude. Look at theQualcomm website
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I had hopes for this phone but qualcomm really sucks the phones just feel like a overclocked single core Exynos feels like dual core would have preferred tegra if not Exynos but well see how phone performs
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yep, the instant I saw that this is coming with a snapdragon instead of the exynos is the instant I decided to wait for the Droid Prime.
I prefer the Hummingbird, and I prefer the Exynos. It's not the I dislike the Snapdragon, but I certainly believe the Exynos is superior for my needs than either the Tegra 2 or the Snapdragon.
if we get the other processore its basicly a samsung version of sensation with bigger screen and touch wiz faster internet?
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its not gonna have a snapdragon! it will be qualcom
Coming to its processing power,the Hercules is said to be powered by Qualcomm APQ8060 chip which is a dual-core chip clocked in at 1.5GHZ.Google’s upcoming Nexus 4G also called as Samsung Nexus Prime and iPhone 5 all will be using this same processor.
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It's the same CPU that's in a Touchpad, and it's similar to the one that's in the Sensation. It's still a snapdragon dude.
Get the international version of galaxy s2. You problem will go away. I believe international version works on T-Mobile network too.
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Get the international version of galaxy s2. You problem will go away. I believe international version works on T-Mobile network too.
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No, international version works only with ATT 3G.
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if we get the other processore its basicly a samsung version of sensation with bigger screen and touch wiz faster internet?
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bigger and much better screen. But otherwise, yes basically.
Well this snap dragon processor is going to suck. battery wise and long wait no speed boast. i mean 1.2 maybe 1.5 and it wont be to bad. the way i see it is i dont need faster internet when my browser is still slow. only way to speed the browser up is faster cpu and gpu or better optimization. since android is on tons of different setup that leaves us with only one option cpu and gpu need to be better. give me samsung processor thank you
So t-mobile just released the galaxy S 2.. I still have the original vibrant.. is it worth it the upgrade?? i can get it for $250
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So t-mobile just released the galaxy S 2.. I still have the original vibrant.. is it worth it the upgrade?? i can get it for $250
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I've owned a Vibrant, and in a word, YES.
It is the best upgrade I've ever done. You will notice a difference.
The t-mobile sgs2 is nothing like the international sgs2, its more like the htc sensation, same soc.
Aka slower and no international roms will work on it.
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best phone ever
even faster than stock SGS2 on stock ROM
CM7 is just around the corner, and then we havr ice cream
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So t-mobile just released the galaxy S 2.. I still have the original vibrant.. is it worth it the upgrade?? i can get it for $250
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Are we going to have a section for this phone? When does that usually happen when a phone is being released?
veyka said:
The t-mobile sgs2 is nothing like the international sgs2, its more like the htc sensation, same soc.
Aka slower and no international roms will work on it.
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Based on what ? the benches that have leaked show it faster, so I do not understand the comment.
But in a word, it is worth the upgrade
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So t-mobile just released the galaxy S 2.. I still have the original vibrant.. is it worth it the upgrade?? i can get it for $250
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HELL YES it's worth the upgrade. Mine should be here tomorrow.
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Based on what ? the benches that have leaked show it faster, so I do not understand the comment.
But in a word, it is worth the upgrade
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True story...androidcentral did a hands on and said that there were no noticable differences between the phones. I am not a fan of benchmarks, but it did score higher in a side by side comparison as well.
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True story...androidcentral did a hands on and said that there were no noticable differences between the phones. I am not a fan of benchmarks, but it did score higher in a side by side comparison as well.
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Exynos Chipset is much smoother when it comes to GPU performance. Hence, why the Tmobile version sucks.
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Exynos Chipset is much smoother when it comes to GPU performance. Hence, why the Tmobile version sucks.
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"The phone is snappy as hell, like we expect a Galaxy S II to be. All doubt about the Snapdragon processor needs to be put to rest, because you would never know the internals are different between this one and the rest. We'll have to see how it handles games and video, but I'm expecting no issues at all."
Quoted from androidcentral HANDS ON review.
But I really did love your educated point of view. You should really become a professional blogger with your infinite knowledge and well made points.
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"The phone is snappy as hell, like we expect a Galaxy S II to be. All doubt about the Snapdragon processor needs to be put to rest, because you would never know the internals are different between this one and the rest. We'll have to see how it handles games and video, but I'm expecting no issues at all."
Quoted from androidcentral HANDS ON review.
But I really did love your educated point of view. You should really become a professional blogger with your infinite knowledge and well made points.
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i just sold my sensation and my g2x and jumped to this phone. trust me when i say i never had any issues with 3d games on the sensation. and i don't expect to have any reason to believe i will have any issues on the SGSII from t-mobile. especially once the devs roll up their sleeves and tweak everything.
lowandbehold said:
"The phone is snappy as hell, like we expect a Galaxy S II to be. All doubt about the Snapdragon processor needs to be put to rest, because you would never know the internals are different between this one and the rest. We'll have to see how it handles games and video, but I'm expecting no issues at all."
Quoted from androidcentral HANDS ON review.
But I really did love your educated point of view. You should really become a professional blogger with your infinite knowledge and well made points.
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LMAO!
can't win dead biased comments
and it's not just 1 review, there are well over 5 well known phone sites with the positive review as well for the SGS2 Hercules
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luckyduck69 said:
i just sold my sensation and my g2x and jumped to this phone. trust me when i say i never had any issues with 3d games on the sensation. and i don't expect to have any reason to believe i will have any issues on the SGSII from t-mobile. especially once the devs roll up their sleeves and tweak everything.
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I don't understand why you even did any of that....The Snapdragon S3 is in the Sensation/EVO3D, but is now in the TMO SGSII, you basically got the same phone again but was ripped off...The S3 in the SGSII+maze4G are OC'd to 1.5GHz, this can be done on Sensation, making the SGSII the same as AMAZE, excluding the AMOLED and WVGA....The Sensation has qHD+SLCD which are inferior, but not worth the selling of the G2X+Sensation for a SGSII. The Normal SGSII's Exynos is @1.2GHz and reaches the S3 @1.5GHz....IF you OC the Exynos it will exceed the S3 overall....Now the Exynos's GPU is more advanced than the Adreno 220, Samsung produces better GPUs, while Qualcomm makes better CPUs on their SoCs. And Qualcomm specializes in better floating point scores, just try Linpack, calculations are faster with Qual. Sorry about this messy post, was rushing.
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I don't understand why you even did any of that....The Snapdragon S3 is in the Sensation/EVO3D, but is now in the TMO SGSII, you basically got the same phone again but was ripped off...The S3 in the SGSII+maze4G are OC'd to 1.5GHz, this can be done on Sensation, making the SGSII the same as AMAZE, excluding the AMOLED and WVGA....The Sensation has qHD+SLCD which are inferior, but not worth the selling of the G2X+Sensation for a SGSII. The Normal SGSII's Exynos is @1.2GHz and reaches the S3 @1.5GHz....IF you OC the Exynos it will exceed the S3 overall....Now the Exynos's GPU is more advanced than the Adreno 220, Samsung produces better GPUs, while Qualcomm makes better CPUs on their SoCs. And Qualcomm specializes in better floating point scores, just try Linpack, calculations are faster with Qual. Sorry about this messy post, was rushing.
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i got the G2x for free. then sold it for 150. i got the sensation for free. then sold it for 350. prior to both of these phones i had the Vibrant and Galaxy S 4G. i miss the lightweight and slender feel that the sensation could not give me. the g2x is an nvidia chipset. nvidia desktop video cards have been running hot in the recent past and the G2x was plagued by the same issue. that sucker could fry some eggs when i pushed it. so basically i'm gaining the feel and bright screen that i've missed and making 500 bucks on two items i paid nothing for. make sense?
The T-Mobile version doesn' suck.
Personally, I'm excited to upgrade my SGS4g to the SGSII
And OP, if you need to ask... lol Jk, but honestly you should slap yourself for even needing to ask...
1Ghz Single Core vs 1.5GHz Dual Core
3g Vs 4g (With T-mo's most powerful radio yet rated 42mbps - actual PEAK speeds are touted as 22mbps with averages from 8-12)
Do I need to keep going or are you convinced yet?
ok convinced... i only qualify for partial upgrade online its a $350 will this be the same price at a retailer? and do retailer have it already?
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ok convinced... i only qualify for partial upgrade online its a $350 will this be the same price at a retailer? and do retailer have it already?
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This phone is definitively a beat, but $350 is a little bit pricey for me. I don't know what you think, but if i was you (early update), i will buy this phone from craigslist/ebay rather than from tmobile. You probably pay around $400-$450, or might get it under $400 if you are lucky. Of course,you pay a little bit more , but you dont have to stick with tmobile for another 2 years. I'll only buy phones from tmobile + 2 year contract if i get fully discount price.
I'll be getting this Wednesday if everything works out right and I can buy it in the store. Finally free of this Nexus S!!
retailers have it already??
Since it's release date on October 10, I've been debating on whether or not I should get this over the Amaze 4g and after 4 days, I decided that the galaxy s 2 is the best choice for me. Now after watching some videos of the original galaxy s 2, I want to know what things were left out in terms of processing power. All I know is that it uses the snapdragon s3 processor which runs on an a8 cortex as opposed to the a9 in the exynos processor. I know that speed is one of the things that the exynos has over snapdragon and also the fact that it's asynchronous as opposed to qualcomm running one core at a time (correct me if I'm wrong here, not savy on processors). The biggest things I know I will use on this phone is Internet, photos, media, and some gaming here and there. On YouTube I saw the original galaxy s 2 capable of running an N64 emulator with virtually no lag, though I don't know if sound was included, and the same goes for the psx emulator. I also saw how it was able to play multiple video formats (including 1080p mkv files) with no issues whatsoever. I want to know if the snapdragon processor would still be capable of running emulators at similar speeds and still have support for multiple video formats even though it's not as fast as the exynos processor. Help is definitely appreciated.
P.S. This was typed on an iPod so sorry if there are any typos and grammar mistakes.
The Qualcomm chip is asynchronous.
Right now, I don't know how much Samsung did to fine-tune the system to accommodate the hardware differences....but like you said, the Qualcomm chip is A8 and the Exynos is A9.
That speaks for itself.
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The Qualcomm chip is asynchronous.
Right now, I don't know how much Samsung did to fine-tune the system to accommodate the hardware differences....but like you said, the Qualcomm chip is A8 and the Exynos is A9.
That speaks for itself.
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I have no idea in the difference care to enlighten me or post a link?
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I have no idea in the difference care to enlighten me or post a link?
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Essentially, the Qualcomm chip is running on an older architecture relative to the Exynos, which is typically why the Exynos outperforms the Qualcomm even at lower clockspeeds. I'm guessing T-Mobile needed the SGS2 to be on par with with its siblings thus the higher clockspeeds (1.5ghz) to accommodate the older architecture.
The iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S if I'm not mistaken are also running chips that are based on the A9 architectures.
There is a difference when using the original SGS2 with the T-Mobile version...but it's not too drastic. What the CPU makes up in lack of speed, the big screen more than makes up for it.
I'm quite new to this forum, therefore I can't post external links yet. However, perform a google search for "How Samsung's chip change-up affects the T-Mobile Galaxy S II" the first link is an interesting article.
The normal clockspeed for this processor is 1.5GHz
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I'm quite new to this forum, therefore I can't post external links yet. However, perform a google search for "How Samsung's chip change-up affects the T-Mobile Galaxy S II" the first link is an interesting article.
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What I took away from that article is that they went Snapdragon in order to use another modem chip to be able to do 42Mbps. The sacrifice is graphics performance.
Hmm, it plays my HD movie great. Not sure I will ever play a first person shooter on it...
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i was about to point out the same
the Qualcomm CPU stock speed is 1.5 Ghz, the same CPU on HTC Sense was actually under clocked to 1.2 Ghz
so the new HTC Amaze is using the CPU at is normal speed like on our phone
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What I took away from that article is that they went Snapdragon in order to use another modem chip to be able to do 42Mbps. The sacrifice is graphics performance.
Hmm, it plays my HD movie great. Not sure I will ever play a first person shooter on it...
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It also sacrifices general OS performance, at least in its current state. Looks like Samsung did no optimization on this guy for the qcom SoC. As it currently stands, I find it more laggy than my (admittedly) highly optimized Epic (single core). Hopefully things will improve with devs, etc.
I had the original and was using it on att gophone,
and sold it to get this. I needed to be on a contract and Tmobile was my only option so I got this
User interface was faster and smoother, apps opened and closed in the blink of an eye
games also ran with no lag whatsoever
Screen is bigger, no hardware buttons, and faster data is a plus for me
Tmobile is very spotty in my area tho
Sometimes I feel like I should have stayed
This phone has been behaving differently
The user interface is nearly as smooth and some of my favorite games lag
(Dragon fly, modern combat 2)
Still a great phone but these 2 Arras are disappointing for me
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Krooked22 said:
I had the original stay.
User interface was faster and smoother, apps opened and closed in the blink of an eye
games also ran with no lag whatsoever
This phone has been behaving differently
The user interface is nearly as smooth and some of my favorite games lag
(Dragon fly, modern combat 2)
Still a great phone but these 2 Arras are disappointing for me
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To be clear, gaming performance will never be as good on this platform. The GPU is severely weaker than the exynos models. What remains to be seen is if the rest of the OS can be optimized though.
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To be clear, gaming performance will never be as good on this platform. The GPU is severely weaker than the exynos models. What remains to be seen is if the rest of the OS can be optimized though.
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The OS definitely can be a little more optimized for this processor. This phone isn't a slouch though.
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The OS definitely can be a little more optimized for this processor. This phone isn't a slouch though.
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It is a slouch relatively speaking, to the people who forked out full retail for this phone.
I might get this phone, if and only if, FULL hardware acceleration is not announced on the Prime, even then, I shall hunt it for free via retentions.
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It is a slouch relatively speaking, to the people who forked out full retail for this phone.
I might get this phone, if and only if, FULL hardware acceleration is not announced on the Prime, even then, I shall hunt it for free via retentions.
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I am one of the people who forked out full retail. I can take a picture of my receipt to prove. We nit pick at every single phone that comes out. Trust me when I say this phone isn't a slouch. Yes it stutters once in a blue, but its fast and pretty smooth. All we need is an official update from Samsung to fix the issue or get a few custom roms. I've owned literally every smartphone that came out for T-Mobile this year and the previous years and I can honestly say this happens to be the fastest, even with the slight stutter it gets every now and then. It's just a slight software issue. I believe that this processor is capable of getting the job done.
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this is my third phone this year and im done .nothing to complain about if i start worrying about milliseconds then i would never buy another phone again because the galaxy s3 will be a few milliseconds faster than this one and so on and on. i made a promise to myself that im done till the end of nex year
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this is my third phone this year and im done .nothing to complain about if i start worrying about milliseconds then i would never buy another phone again because the galaxy s3 will be a few milliseconds faster than this one and so on and on. i made a promise to myself that im done till the end of nex year
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Lol. I don't think your done. I think we all say this same thing. I bet I'll probably see you over at the Nexus Prime forum. I really love this phone and would like to say I'm done for the year too, but I think what makes some of us go for the next best thing is A. its the next best thing and B. we realize that our dev community gets smaller whenever the next best thing comes out so we want to be back in the loop of things. I'M JUST A PHONE SLUT!
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II've owned literally every smartphone that came out for T-Mobile this year and the previous years and I can honestly say this happens to be the fastest, even with the slight stutter it gets every now and then. It's just a slight software issue. I believe that this processor is capable of getting the job done.
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I also paid full retail (pending Prime announcement), but I can tell you that my highly optimized Epic is smoother than this phone is right now in day-to-day use. Now, hopefully that means that there is a lot of room for improvement as this chip is theoretically faster and dual-core, but it is an open question of whether that promise will be realized.
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I also paid full retail (pending Prime announcement), but I can tell you that my highly optimized Epic is smoother than this phone is right now in day-to-day use. Now, hopefully that means that there is a lot of room for improvement as this chip is theoretically faster and dual-core, but it is an open question of whether that promise will be realized.
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We will be rewarded by both Samsung and the devs soon.
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Lol. I don't think your done. I think we all say this same thing. I bet I'll probably see you over at the Nexus Prime forum. I really love this phone and would like to say I'm done for the year too, but I think what makes some of us go for the next best thing is A. its the next best thing and B. we realize that our dev community gets smaller whenever the next best thing comes out so we want to be back in the loop of things. I'M JUST A PHONE SLUT!
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This ^
This processor is the same one used in the now defunct HP touchpad. People have successfully overclocked their touchpads to 1.7ghz with minimal to no additional drain on battery but a noticeable speed boost. I imagine our phones will react much the same way
The Galaxy S III has been outclassed in the performance department by the iPhone 5. Everything is faster on it with the new Cortex-A15 processor by it. I am not sure how the international GS3 does against it overclocked. But it's probably safe to say the new iPhone is the most powerful LTE device on the market at this moment. Although it's not likely, it would be nice of the Galaxy S IV used the Exynos 5450.
The iPhone's hardware improvements alone won't make me switch because it's still an iPhone that runs iOS but I hope Samsung turns up the heat in response.
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Yeah, ok.
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Why? This is about the Galaxy S III and its brand. There's nothing wrong with discussing how it handles against other phones on the market.
The iphone 5 benchmarks were false (unless you were talking about other benchmarks).
From Adam outler on Google Plus:
CNET posted a bogus report on benchmarks. I had problems believing that a dual core from apple would be faster than every Android device so I decided to go to the source. Turns out the Galaxy S3 and the Nexus7 both score higher benchmarks than the iPhone 5.
You can see here for yourself. IPhone scores 1590, Galaxy S3 scores 1766. These are the benchmarks mentioned in the article below.
Android benchmarks: URL blocked, from primatelabs
iPhone benchmarks: URL blocked, from primatelabs
CNET's blatantly misreported benchmark review : URL blocked from CNET "iphone-5-benchmarks-surface-performance-doubles"
Went to AT&T today looking at the 5 with my wife I must say but I hate admitting it the speed is insane on lte did a speed teat in store and it got 51 up 20 down ran it with my s3 got 45 up 18 down.
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Went to AT&T today looking at the 5 with my wife I must say but I hate admitting it the speed is insane on lte did a speed teat in store and it got 51 up 20 down ran it with my s3 got 45 up 18 down.
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It would need alot more than that to get me to deal with all it's other shortcomings.
Who gives a rats ass about the fastest phone? People who are power hungry on specs slightly bug me. The S4 processor with the current GPU play everything flawlessly. Who cares that the ifail 5 has a better processor. Its a common fact that as soon as a new product is released, its outclassed by the time you change underwear at night. Pretty soon were all going to holding quad core/12 MP/1080p display beasts and then god will descend from the heavens and scoop us all us.... or a nuclear strike will occur and we will all be turned into dust.
Let apple have their glory because Samsung did when this phone was announced.
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The Galaxy S III has been outclassed in the performance department by the iPhone 5. Everything is faster on it with the new Cortex-A15 processor by it. I am not sure how the international GS3 does against it overclocked. But it's probably safe to say the new iPhone is the most powerful LTE device on the market at this moment. Although it's not likely, it would be nice of the Galaxy S IV used the Exynos 5450.
The iPhone's hardware improvements alone won't make me switch because it's still an iPhone that runs iOS but I hope Samsung turns up the heat in response.
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Outclassed how? A Jellybean S3 benches faster than the iPhone 5 by a healthy margin and still has a bigger screen and more RAM.
I was just posting stats that I found there is nothing that apple could ever do that would make me abandon the samsung line of android devices. I have the note tablet as well and that blows the iPad away in my opinion.
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Ok... Yeah the crap phone 5 is five months newer than my GS 3... It had better be faster, otherwise they have bigger problems in that company than i thought. Hell with a additional 5 or 6 months, it ought to be faster than it is. Guess what, when the SGS 4 comes out in another 6-8 months, it will be faster than the icrap 5... and so forth and so on... Thus is life.
In before the lock. (to bad i can't lock it)
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Ultimately stock vs stock may be faster (marginally), but we can still over clock and optimize like crazy where they can't, and this will produce significant differences in performance. It all lays with the combination of hardware and software and the ability to manipulate it... this is where android will always win, because they give us the freedom to do these things.
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The Galaxy S III has been outclassed in the performance department by the iPhone 5. Everything is faster on it with the new Cortex-A15 processor by it. I am not sure how the international GS3 does against it overclocked. But it's probably safe to say the new iPhone is the most powerful LTE device on the market at this moment. Although it's not likely, it would be nice of the Galaxy S IV used the Exynos 5450.
The iPhone's hardware improvements alone won't make me switch because it's still an iPhone that runs iOS but I hope Samsung turns up the heat in response.
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Those benchmarks that were posted by CNET were false. GG
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The only equipment in the i phone that is better is the processor. Everything else is outdated.
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The Galaxy S III has been outclassed in the performance department by the iPhone 5. Everything is faster on it with the new Cortex-A15 processor by it. I am not sure how the international GS3 does against it overclocked. But it's probably safe to say the new iPhone is the most powerful LTE device on the market at this moment. Although it's not likely, it would be nice of the Galaxy S IV used the Exynos 5450.
The iPhone's hardware improvements alone won't make me switch because it's still an iPhone that runs iOS but I hope Samsung turns up the heat in response.
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Although I hate to point it out.... Your going by false data.
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The only thing the iphone5 has that I want is the almost unbreakable screen. They did some magic on that.
Other then that the iphone would be useless for me as it doesn't do anything I need and everything it does do is sub par
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The only thing the iphone5 has that I want is the almost unbreakable screen. They did some magic on that.
Other then that the iphone would be useless for me as it doesn't do anything I need and everything it does do is sub par
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Pretty sure the only reason the screen is "almost unbreakable" is because of the solid aluminum back and sides. Unlike the iPhone 4/4S, the screen doesn't really seem to cushion any of the blow like it did on previous devices, instead being taken more by the aluminum. As we all know, Gorilla Glass (or whatever they may be using in the iP5) can handle damn near anything on the face, but an impact to the edge is where the shattering happens.
I still wouldn't want one simply because of the screen, because i simply just don't drop my phone. Never have, and doubt i will anytime soon.
Umm, OP, you do realize that the OS are different and demand different things from its hardware right? No offense but it would be stupid to compare two completely different OS that utalize different hardware. IOS is fast in the iPhone 5 because it was made to be fast on iPhone 5. Not because the hardware is fast. Its called optimization. Which iOS is for THAT hardware.
Just my two cents.
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same boring os and look as the last 5 yrs
no nfc(even though i dont care about it im sure some do)
no wireless charging
weird looking skinny screen
headphone jack on the bottom(wtf were they thinking)
constantly being scared to upgrade os cuz of waiting on jailbreak
battery life sucks
yea id say once again apple made a phone that is already behind everything else
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Umm, OP, you do realize that the OS are different and demand different things from its hardware right? No offense but it would be stupid to compare two completely different OS that utalize different hardware. IOS is fast in the iPhone 5 because it was made to be fast on iPhone 5. Not because the hardware is fast. Its called optimization. Which iOS is for THAT hardware.
Just my two cents.
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the iphone only seems fast cuz the hardware never does any work. the apps do all the work themselves. its just the way everything is coded. considering all that i still dont understand why the battery life always sucks.
I went to the apple store today as the nerd me and i family are and i waged a double double from in n out on my s3 being faster opening apps and on laodong web pages... and infront of 4 customers and 3 employees my phone won every single test on the apple store wifi network... i can say in real world uses im happy with my purchase. And my double double was delish.
im on my phone. expect terrible typos.
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I went to the apple store today as the nerd me and i family are and i waged a double double from in n out on my s3 being faster opening apps and on laodong web pages... and infront of 4 customers and 3 employees my phone won every single test on the apple store wifi network... i can say in real world uses im happy with my purchase. And my double double was delish.
im on my phone. expect terrible typos.
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what did the customers and apple geniuses have to say?
Hey guys.
See this- http://m.gsmarena.com/texas_instruments_backtracks_from_smartphones_goodbye_omap-news-4861.php
So no more OMAP chip!!!!
I wonder what next nexus will have than ??
It was developer friendly..
Let see what happens.
Good day.
This news should bring a tear to every androids mechanical eye
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Very interesting, I wander if Google will go with the Tegra chip (Same chip used in the Nexus 7) for their upcoming Nexus phone, and if this will effect the release date of the next Nexus phone.
Bummer! Was hoping to check out the 5xxx chipset.
I remember posting this rumor a few months back, sad to see it actually occur as their chips are great.
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Hmm. Ti was very friendly to the open source community. Qualcomm has their own drivers and is somewhat anti open source. The more alternatives to qualcomm chips the better.
Google showed us how great these processors are! They were the underdog of the mobile space ( and probably why we can get unlocked Nexus for $350). It was great at resource management, too - although it's hard to tell with LTE.
Open source processors are going away and that's not good. Hope this works out for TI
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Sigh. People should read. Omap is going away for tablets and smartphones. TI doesnt have anything for radios thus their chips cost more to pair with a modem and use more battery going that route.
On another note if TI drops smartphone and tablet SOC's who else uses imagination technologies GPU's. Very much looking forward to Rogue.
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This sucks next nexus should have Exynos with A15 instead of tegra 3 or S4 Architecture that would be a beast and it would have great battery life
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Although this is really sad, you guys should relax a little, this isn't the sudden deathblow for OMAP SoCs. TI didn't actually even say that it won't build SoCs anymore, it talked about "shifting its focus", thus reducing resources that go into chip development (Quote from article: "Anyway, TI will continue to support its current clients, but will significantly reduce efforts on developing new OMAP chipsets"). I agree this could mean the end of open source mobile chips from TI in the long term (technology is by all means a fast moving business), but right now it's more of a "slowing down". I just expect less new OMAP models in the next years.
And think about it, OMAP5 (5430/5432) development did progress way too far to reduce resources just now, I think this'll rather affect the OMAP5's successor. I'm absolutely sure we'll see the OMAP5 monsters in upcoming devices. TI spent too much money on that SoC to not release it now.
So there's still a lot of hope for the upcoming Nexus to have a open source SoC!
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This sucks next nexus should have Exynos with A15 instead of tegra 3 or S4 Architecture that would be a beast and it would have great battery life
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Why no S4 architecture? If it is a S4 Pro of course Did you see those benchmarks? They crush everything on the market and will also stay very competitive in the next time.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-optimus-g-benchmarks-arrive-make-quad-core-competitions-blush/
http://blog.gsmarena.com/lg-optimus-gs-adreno-320-gpu-benchmarked-rivals-get-served/
Notice that Nenamark 2 score:
The 60fps result at NenaMark 2 might suggest that there’s not much difference between the Optimus G and other quad-cores, but there’s actually more to that score. NenaMark 2 renders on-screen, which means that 60.0 fps is the highest possible result that a smartphone can get.
So the fact that the LG Optimus G got a perfect score suggests that it has more in reserve than its rivals – it was able to maintain the maximum framerate through the most intensive parts of the test, whereas others failed to do so.
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We'll have to see about battery life though, but a 28nm chip with integrated 4G radio should do very well there as well.
Maybe Google already got a contract for omap5 and that will be the last one for mobile devices?
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We already knew the next Nexus was going to have a Tegra 3 + LTE.
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This sucks next nexus should have Exynos with A15 instead of tegra 3 or S4 Architecture that would be a beast and it would have great battery life
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Devs hate Exynos, check this: http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/2012/09/23/having-a-look-at-my-magical-orb/
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Devs hate Exynos, check this: http://codeworkx.de/wordpress/2012/09/23/having-a-look-at-my-magical-orb/
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He never said he hates it he just said that its not being properly supported and that he will stick with exynos 4 galaxy S2
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He never said he hates it he just said that its not being properly supported and that he will stick with exynos 4 galaxy S2
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He does hate, I have a SGS2 and he always blamed Sammy and all that crap, some users used to call him the "angry german boy". The true is that CM9 never was fully functional in the Exynos version...
As I said, OMAP 5 is by no means affected by TI's focus shift:
http://www.gsmarena.com/clarification_ti_not_giving_up_on_its_chipsets_omap_5_on_track-news-4866.php
TI will also continue its efforts in developing the OMAP chipsets and the fifth generation, the one with Cortex-A15 cores, is on track - it's sampling today and the first consumer products it will power are expected in early 2013.
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I'm not really a fan of the Tegra chips, especially with NVidia's open source support being so awful.
Maybe Google will create their own super-awesome-Android-optimized chip? Maybe? We can dream..
But surely in the future some manufacturer will come out of the works with chips to match the OMAP's.
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Well at least they are exploring and expanding their R&D into other industries or what not. Good business move if they see their market share diminishing and looking to innovate in other areas. Thanks for sharing the story with us.
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Sigh. People should read. Omap is going away for tablets and smartphones. TI doesnt have anything for radios thus their chips cost more to pair with a modem and use more battery going that route.
On another note if TI drops smartphone and tablet SOC's who else uses imagination technologies GPU's. Very much looking forward to Rogue.
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Well Intel's latest Atom uses the PowerVR SGX545, next nexus might have an Intel processor