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I feel I should w8 will it allow apps 2sd?
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Depends how long you're willing to wait
Froyo should include A2SD, but who knows when HTC comes up with the 2.2 upgrade for Desire.
this is true...however should b fairly quick its the flag ship Android mobile can't see another 4release in conjunction with 2.2 release
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I'm waiting ;-). Everything that I need the phone to do, it does... SO no real need to update as of yet. Will probably wait for official updates as I prefer official releases (possibly less bugs etc)
Moved to General Desire Forum.
Don't see where this hooks into Development or Rom cooking.
sorry thought it was ok here
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Isn't the whole point of 2.2(FroYo) that the Android segmentation is abolished and that we would be downloading Sense UI from the market.
If this is true we should all expect 2.2 the moment it is released as it will be a generic, basic Google ROM, then we would just have to wait for HTC to update Sense for 2.2 and we would be able to download that and off we go!
I am not sure if I am correct but this is the way I understood Android to be going.
i am actually, kinda scared of rooting im not 100% sure but seen somwhere a news bout release being sometime in the summer may-june think it was
I'm of those waiting... unless I can find a quick, simple and automated way of backing up and restoring everything about my current phone fast, it 'ain't happening until I see 2.2.
Many other reasons... including too many unknowns, unsubstantiated unclears, bricking not being an option for me in these months and so forth.
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Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we all know how slow they are with those!
That is the big deal. Android 2.2 will come maybe next month, but when HTC 'come' with their update, who knows...
rovex said:
Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we all know how slow they are with those!
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The big difference here is the existence of the Nexus One, which will get an update pretty much straight away.
Since the Desire is very close hardware wise to the Nexus One, I'd hope that it wouldn't take too long to "Sensify" 2.2 and get an update out to Desire users. Failing that, if you're rooted, they'll be cooked 2.2 Nexus ROMs out for the Desire in fairly short order.
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Dave
I was waiting, but ended up rooting tonight. I reckon SetCPU alone was worth rooting for.
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I was waiting, but ended up rooting tonight. I reckon SetCPU alone was worth rooting for.
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Actually, SetCPU will have no effect when running on rooted Desires.
When I pull the sliders across, it seems to have no effect, and the green max and min frequencies remain unchanged. HTC has a driver that they implement which keeps overriding SetCPU. We need to hope they (HTC) release the Kernel source. Once this happens, there will surely be a release of a modified Kernel with SetCPU support and overclocking/undervolting (assuming the CPUs in the Desire are binned the same way as the CPUs in the Nexus, this should yield a 10% overclock and better battery life).
Problem is HTC is really slow in releasing the source, it's borderline, illegal, and very irritating.
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Actually, SetCPU will have no effect when running on rooted Desires.
When I pull the sliders across, it seems to have no effect, and the green max and min frequencies remain unchanged. HTC has a driver that they implement which keeps overriding SetCPU.
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I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but my sliders seem to work fine. The widget display claims my speeds are scaling too, and my battery life seems remarkably improved, though that could be due to running the MCR. I don't know.
[EDIT] I see what you mean about the sliders now. Battery life still seems better though?
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Isn't the whole point of 2.2(FroYo) that the Android segmentation is abolished and that we would be downloading Sense UI from the market.
If this is true we should all expect 2.2 the moment it is released as it will be a generic, basic Google ROM, then we would just have to wait for HTC to update Sense for 2.2 and we would be able to download that and off we go!
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I wouldn't have thought so. I wouldn't like to be Orange, dealing with thousands of customers who updated their phone (or had their phone automatically apply an update) and who've suddenly lost functionality/apps etc.
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I wouldn't have thought so. I wouldn't like to be Orange, dealing with thousands of customers who updated their phone (or had their phone automatically apply an update) and who've suddenly lost functionality/apps etc.
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See I thought this was the whole point of FroYo. We all get the basic Google Rom (maybe with a few service provider tweaks) then we download UI of our choice from the market.
Apart from service providers having to mess around with the Rom there's no reason why we should be waiting for months to get it. Most people in this thread seem to give the impression that we won't see 2.2 for ages while HTC upgrade Sense(I assume there's a few ex-hero users in here). This isn't true though, we'll be running 2.2 and waiting for a download of sense via the market. yeah?
Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we
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The big difference here is the existence of the Nexus One, which will get an update pretty much straight away.
Since the Desire is very close hardware wise to the Nexus One, I'd hope that it wouldn't take too long to "Sensify" 2.2 and get an update out to Desire users. Failing that, if you're rooted, they'll be cooked 2.2 Nexus ROMs out for the Desire in fairly short order.
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Dave
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the only problem with this is... nexus one is updated by GOOGLE and the desire is not.... the nexus one will be the first to get 2.2 and from there im betting other devices wont see it till acouple months later...i bet the droid will see it before the desire...sense ui jus slows down the update process..
I can't wait until Froyo gets here!!!
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the only problem with this is... nexus one is updated by GOOGLE and the desire is not.... the nexus one will be the first to get 2.2 and from there im betting other devices wont see it till acouple months later...i bet the droid will see it before the desire...sense ui jus slows down the update process..
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Can I ask why you think this? I reckon we'll get 2.2 the same time as the Nexus . If everything I've read about 2.2 is correct then Sense will just be released to the market when it's updated for us to download.
am I really wrong or the only person in this thread who understands what's going on with 2.2?
does anyone think that this will work on a rooted desire running official 2.2 rom????
I want badly! we need this.
It's only just been announced and we won't know until it has been released on the new Desire Z, Desire HD phones. I hope they update the Desire to this new sense though.
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I hope they update the Desire to this new sense though.
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Me too! This new sense has some nice new features.
Looking through HD specifications I saw that it will support .avi and .xvid video playback. Could be useful if they bring this to Desire. DLNA too.
And this HTCSense.com thing sounds nice.
Even if they can't update the sense on the Desire I am sure it wouldn't take much for HTC to make an app to read phone data, many free apps already do this so should be simple in theory.
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have you guys not learnt anything from htc yet lol i can guarante you this feature will not be officially ported to the desire. the main reason is because if htc gave there older phones all the new features, what incentive do we have to spend $500/600 on a new device
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have you guys not learnt anything from htc yet lol i can guarante you this feature will not be officially ported to the desire. the main reason is because if htc gave there older phones all the new features, what incentive do we have to spend $500/600 on a new device
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this is very true. i waited for ages on the 2.1 update for the hero until i got fed up and got a desire
You have a point, AndroHero, but on the other hand, how many Desire owners would actually switch to a Desire HD or Desire Z? I know there are some enthusiasts, but most of us will at the least wait until next year. I could understand not giving this to a model that's maybe 1-2 years old, but Desire is from this spring, so it wouldn't prevent many people from buying a new phone, and people would know that buying a HTC was a safe bet.
I'm not saying it will come to Desire, but I think it should.
I just got my desire and see no reason to upgrade to these phones at all.
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I bought Desire in April and I will probably skip Desire HD. Its nice phone, but I don't think its worth to upgrade, because I think soon we will have better phones available: with dual core processors, Android Gingerbread etc. So I will rather wait for those phones.
Hi All,
Anyone know of any news whether we will be getting a ROM Upgrade or a HTC Sense update for the Desire at all?
Thanks
read on a thread somewhere in here that it is coming to desires in december.
Or u could always flash hd rom. Sense hd i mean
Patience my friend, it's coming in December
Aye December, my guess is it will be included with Gingerbread update.
Yay! Thanks guys, I love this board so much. Maybe it sounds odd, but I hate flashing ROMs rather than using the stock ones. Just feels dirty
Awaiting December.
what have you guys been smoking there will be no gingerbread or sence update i can guarantee you that
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what have you guys been smoking there will be no gingerbread or sence update i can guarantee you that
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You're base for your comment?
(Not sure about Gingerbread though...don't know where that rumour came from)
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You're base for your comment?
(Not sure about Gingerbread though...don't know where that rumour came from)
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experience.... first of all the desire is nearly a year old, waaay to old for htc support in my experience. secondly, htc want us to buy new handsets not keep our old ones, it makes no sence updating old hardware. and finally, the htc legend is only a few months older than our desire and they dont even have froyo yet, so you give me an example of htc supporting year old hardware with new software updates and i will rescind my comments
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experience.... first of all the desire is nearly a year old, waaay to old for htc support in my experience. secondly, htc want us to buy new handsets not keep our old ones, it makes no sence updating old hardware. and finally, the htc legend is only a few months older than our desire and they dont even have froyo yet, so you give me an example of htc supporting year old hardware with new software updates and i will rescind my comments
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What you say is true, of course hTC would want us to buy the Desire HD & Z, but the Desire is less than 7 months old (announced in April, realeased in May/ June), not 1 year old, that means nearly all Desire users are still bound by their contracts. If hTC was to abandon the Desire, how would their customers feel? that hTC keeps on pushing out new models but leaving the older models to wither & die? I think not...
but only time would tell
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What you say is true, of course hTC would want us to buy the Desire HD & Z, but the Desire is less than 7 months old (announced in April, realeased in May/ June), not 1 year old, that means nearly all Desire users are still bound by their contracts. If hTC was to abandon the Desire, how would their customers feel? that hTC keeps on pushing out new models but leaving the older models to wither & die? I think not...
but only time would tell
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good point were all second guessing htc anyway, only they know what devices there going to continue to support
If the new Sense doesn't come to Desire do you think it'd be possible to at least get HTC's offline Maps app - like they have with other features?
I bought a Hero when it came - so I know all about HTC not supporting devices. The first update I got for that phone came in June (Eclair).
And the thing about that update was that it came in two packages. It was a ****ty update I didn't use.
It's a fact that HTC doesn't support their own devices. When it comes to the Desire, I'm hoping they won't **** on us again, it's not outdated yet.
Or maybe it is to HTC - Still. I'm going to have this phone for another 9 months so it'd be nice with at least one official update.
HTC - "We make new phones for you.
Get rid of the old one, seriously."
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experience.... first of all the desire is nearly a year old, waaay to old for htc support in my experience.
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Nothing makes me angry than ignorance. This is ignorance of the highest order. The iPhone 3G was released in July 2008 and it's still getting firmware updates. The Desire is barely 7 months old.
Grrrrr!
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Nothing makes me angry than ignorance. This is ignorance of the highest order. The iPhone 3G was released in July 2008 and it's still getting firmware updates. The Desire is barely 7 months old.
Grrrrr!
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The iPhone is an iPhone.
The iPhone was not made by HTC
Apple makes the iPhone
HTC and Apple are not the same
Apple/iPhone - supported.
HTC/Any device - unsupported.
It's not ignorance. It's basic knowledge. HTC doesn't continue supporting devices. Apple might. HTC doesn't.
Then again, that's one of the reasons XDA exists.
IamMartin said:
Nothing makes me angry than ignorance. This is ignorance of the highest order. The iPhone 3G was released in July 2008 and it's still getting firmware updates. The Desire is barely 7 months old.
Grrrrr!
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dont call me ignorant, instead educate yourself, the reason even 2g iphones still get firmware updates is so apple can keep the tyrannic grip on what software they use!!! htc dont use this method, and after owning maybe 10 htc devices in the last 10 years, i think i can speak with experience.
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You're base for your comment?
(Not sure about Gingerbread though...don't know where that rumour came from)
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Wasn't really trying to start a rumor. Just that gingerbread is expected from Google 4th quarter and new sense expected December made sense to me that HTC would wait and give one last update together.
i seriously hope that's the case, but it seems unlikely and I think It'll be up to XDA to get gingerbread onto the Desire...
It makes me kinda sad to read this. I know it's true and yet I always hope HTC changes their game plan and just support older devices.
I know they want ppl to buy their new devices but why would you buy a HTC you can only use for roughly a half year and then get outdated software.
Why not choose for a Samsung Galaxy S? mayB they have better support for their devices (just an example).
but I hope we all get proven wrong!!
There is a reason because HTC is going to upgrade our Desires. I think HTC want to boost the htcsense.com portal and for this, new sense is required, and what hardware can use new sense? Only Desire. So it’s a way to get a lot of users without waiting the sales of Z and HD
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There is a reason because HTC is going to upgrade our Desires. I think HTC want to boost the htcsense.com portal and for this, new sense is required, and what hardware can use new sense? Only Desire. So it’s a way to get a lot of users without waiting the sales of Z and HD
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no, older phones can also support HTCSense, this can be proven as they announced that all future HTC Android devices will support HTCSense (both Entry level [eg.wildfire type] and Enterprise level [eg. Desire type]). but HTC are holding them off entry level phones as they are stingy and want us to buy more phones from them.
Hey All,
I just called HTC and asked them flat out if they are going to support the Desire with the New HTC Sense as found on the Desire Z and HD. The guy said that they have been told that it is likely for all of the phones supporting the current HTC Sense at the moment to be upgraded as they want them on the website however it was uncertain as to any ETA.
My main suggestion or reason for why HTC would upgrade older phones is data. Seriously. As a software developer myself, we crave data in order to examine usage and everything.
Yeah.. hope you will get any response as soon as possible and share it with us.
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Sorry for creating yet another Gingerbread thread, but i thought everyone should know HTC has confirmed the release date of Gingerbread for the Desire HD, Desire Z, Desire and Incredible S
They will all receive the update by the end of June.
Sources -
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/27/htc-incredible-s-desire-hd-desire-z-and-original-desire-will-a/
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-desire...feed&utm_campaign=Feed: slashgear (SlashGear)
What does everyone think?
It is way to late period.
I posted my comment already at Engadget and not gonna repeat it here.
All i can say is that HTC sucks in software development. ( and i express myself mildly).
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It is way to late period.
I posted my comment already at Engadget and not gonna repeat it here.
All i can say is that HTC sucks in software development. ( and i express myself mildly).
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Sorry HTC suck when are the other manufacturers rolling it out
I'm happy with this. With the original desire included, it just makes it better.
Cheers from my DHD.
Samsung are the crappiest when it comes to updates LG are OK HTC are good
But if your not on a custom rom then iit sucks because the carriers will take a long time to update by adding all the bloatware
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Since it takes them time to implement a new Sense update with new versions of Android I think they're doing this on purpose so they can go up to 2.4, skipping 2.3 and releasing in June. If that's correct then I'm going to grumble but accept it, if it's still 2.3 when we get it then I'll be pretty unimpressed. The update is clearly ready if they're releasing other phones with it in the next month or so, I can't imagine what else would be holding it up.
ages away, devastated
2.3 was only made for Google phones and as HTC said the incredible s would get a 2.4 update so all the desire series devices would get 2.4
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If it just once and for all fixes the problem with wireless and wpa, it's okay with me that it takes a while
To be honest I can't be all too happy about it but I can't say I didn't see it coming given the timeframe for the new phone's release.
My guess is they'll want to use the new phones as guinea pigs to iron out any unchecked bugs before trying to port it to the older Desires.
What bugs me is that the Incredible S is supposed to replace the DHD as HTC's new flagship, yet it gives me an impression of inferiority to the DHD in a lot of key ways (including but not limited to, its' construction). Funnier still is that it'll also be coming with FroYo stock, getting the update for Gingerbread (be it 2.3 or 2.4) together with the rest of the gang.
I have the feeling that HTC's "real" new flagship hasn't been announced yet (and that it'll probably be a dual-core phone).
The real new flagship has already been leaked. Google "htc pyramid"
Sent from my super slick Android device.
Ah, yes, and a Dual-Core as well, again, it felt like it was time for the next step, and yes, if the rest of the speculations about the specs have any truth to them we're basically talking about a Behemoth of a cell phone.
I just hope this time HTC keeps it together when it comes to the battery, otherwise I can't imagine how conservative a person would have to be just to get through the day...
It sucks that we've gotta wait a while, but at least we know when we'll have it by