Hi All,
Anyone know of any news whether we will be getting a ROM Upgrade or a HTC Sense update for the Desire at all?
Thanks
read on a thread somewhere in here that it is coming to desires in december.
Or u could always flash hd rom. Sense hd i mean
Patience my friend, it's coming in December
Aye December, my guess is it will be included with Gingerbread update.
Yay! Thanks guys, I love this board so much. Maybe it sounds odd, but I hate flashing ROMs rather than using the stock ones. Just feels dirty
Awaiting December.
what have you guys been smoking there will be no gingerbread or sence update i can guarantee you that
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what have you guys been smoking there will be no gingerbread or sence update i can guarantee you that
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You're base for your comment?
(Not sure about Gingerbread though...don't know where that rumour came from)
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You're base for your comment?
(Not sure about Gingerbread though...don't know where that rumour came from)
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experience.... first of all the desire is nearly a year old, waaay to old for htc support in my experience. secondly, htc want us to buy new handsets not keep our old ones, it makes no sence updating old hardware. and finally, the htc legend is only a few months older than our desire and they dont even have froyo yet, so you give me an example of htc supporting year old hardware with new software updates and i will rescind my comments
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experience.... first of all the desire is nearly a year old, waaay to old for htc support in my experience. secondly, htc want us to buy new handsets not keep our old ones, it makes no sence updating old hardware. and finally, the htc legend is only a few months older than our desire and they dont even have froyo yet, so you give me an example of htc supporting year old hardware with new software updates and i will rescind my comments
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What you say is true, of course hTC would want us to buy the Desire HD & Z, but the Desire is less than 7 months old (announced in April, realeased in May/ June), not 1 year old, that means nearly all Desire users are still bound by their contracts. If hTC was to abandon the Desire, how would their customers feel? that hTC keeps on pushing out new models but leaving the older models to wither & die? I think not...
but only time would tell
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What you say is true, of course hTC would want us to buy the Desire HD & Z, but the Desire is less than 7 months old (announced in April, realeased in May/ June), not 1 year old, that means nearly all Desire users are still bound by their contracts. If hTC was to abandon the Desire, how would their customers feel? that hTC keeps on pushing out new models but leaving the older models to wither & die? I think not...
but only time would tell
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good point were all second guessing htc anyway, only they know what devices there going to continue to support
If the new Sense doesn't come to Desire do you think it'd be possible to at least get HTC's offline Maps app - like they have with other features?
I bought a Hero when it came - so I know all about HTC not supporting devices. The first update I got for that phone came in June (Eclair).
And the thing about that update was that it came in two packages. It was a ****ty update I didn't use.
It's a fact that HTC doesn't support their own devices. When it comes to the Desire, I'm hoping they won't **** on us again, it's not outdated yet.
Or maybe it is to HTC - Still. I'm going to have this phone for another 9 months so it'd be nice with at least one official update.
HTC - "We make new phones for you.
Get rid of the old one, seriously."
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experience.... first of all the desire is nearly a year old, waaay to old for htc support in my experience.
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Nothing makes me angry than ignorance. This is ignorance of the highest order. The iPhone 3G was released in July 2008 and it's still getting firmware updates. The Desire is barely 7 months old.
Grrrrr!
IamMartin said:
Nothing makes me angry than ignorance. This is ignorance of the highest order. The iPhone 3G was released in July 2008 and it's still getting firmware updates. The Desire is barely 7 months old.
Grrrrr!
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The iPhone is an iPhone.
The iPhone was not made by HTC
Apple makes the iPhone
HTC and Apple are not the same
Apple/iPhone - supported.
HTC/Any device - unsupported.
It's not ignorance. It's basic knowledge. HTC doesn't continue supporting devices. Apple might. HTC doesn't.
Then again, that's one of the reasons XDA exists.
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Nothing makes me angry than ignorance. This is ignorance of the highest order. The iPhone 3G was released in July 2008 and it's still getting firmware updates. The Desire is barely 7 months old.
Grrrrr!
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dont call me ignorant, instead educate yourself, the reason even 2g iphones still get firmware updates is so apple can keep the tyrannic grip on what software they use!!! htc dont use this method, and after owning maybe 10 htc devices in the last 10 years, i think i can speak with experience.
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You're base for your comment?
(Not sure about Gingerbread though...don't know where that rumour came from)
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Wasn't really trying to start a rumor. Just that gingerbread is expected from Google 4th quarter and new sense expected December made sense to me that HTC would wait and give one last update together.
i seriously hope that's the case, but it seems unlikely and I think It'll be up to XDA to get gingerbread onto the Desire...
It makes me kinda sad to read this. I know it's true and yet I always hope HTC changes their game plan and just support older devices.
I know they want ppl to buy their new devices but why would you buy a HTC you can only use for roughly a half year and then get outdated software.
Why not choose for a Samsung Galaxy S? mayB they have better support for their devices (just an example).
but I hope we all get proven wrong!!
There is a reason because HTC is going to upgrade our Desires. I think HTC want to boost the htcsense.com portal and for this, new sense is required, and what hardware can use new sense? Only Desire. So it’s a way to get a lot of users without waiting the sales of Z and HD
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There is a reason because HTC is going to upgrade our Desires. I think HTC want to boost the htcsense.com portal and for this, new sense is required, and what hardware can use new sense? Only Desire. So it’s a way to get a lot of users without waiting the sales of Z and HD
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no, older phones can also support HTCSense, this can be proven as they announced that all future HTC Android devices will support HTCSense (both Entry level [eg.wildfire type] and Enterprise level [eg. Desire type]). but HTC are holding them off entry level phones as they are stingy and want us to buy more phones from them.
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Does anybody know if HTC have got in plans to update Sense to the same level as it is on Desire HD? Some of the functions are so handy. I would just love to have them on my handset.
yes, desire will be the only one that will get an update. maybe in time desire hd hits the market
Are you just speculating or is that confirmed?
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yes, desire will be the only one that will get an update. maybe in time desire hd hits the market
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thats absolute rubish, htc never updates its ui, for older devices .......
AndroHero said:
thats absolute rubish, htc never updates its ui, for older devices .......
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In fact they do. Just remember the Diamond2 or the TouchPro2 which both got WinMob 6.5 and Sense 2.5... but im pretty sure (just a feeling) that they wont deliver the new Sense to the Desire....
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In fact they do. Just remember the Diamond2 or the TouchPro2 which both got WinMob 6.5 and Sense 2.5... but im pretty sure (just a feeling) that they wont deliver the new Sense to the Desire....
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no they didnt, they go winmo 6.5 but only got sence 2.1, sence 2.5 is exclusive to the HD2
unless htc have said so themselves, i really doubt they would go through the time and effort to update one of their older devices.
don't get me wrong i'd love it if they did, but from experience, i really doubt it.
"Older devices"?? I got my desire 3 months ago, a top of the line phone, a flagship. A trully want to belive that they are going to update the desire, but i cant say for sure if they do. But i hope.....
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Anyone know when the Desire is considered an older device? I'm sure it'll continue to be manufactured and sold for a while now - not everyone wants a big phone or a keyboard. Am assuming a new Desire replacement won't be out until next spring.
actually your wrong here, i'm glad someone brought it up so i looked it up
HTC did upgrade both the diamond 2 and touchpro2 to sense 2.5
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=2&dl_id=912
http://www.jayceooi.com/2010/03/20/download-rom-version-2-53-405-5-upgrade-for-htc-touch-diamond2/\
i wish htc did the same for my diamond 1, i wanted the topaz TouchFLO so badly but it never happened (officially and it was very hard for the community to port)
waw this makes me hopeful if we keep nagging about it we will get it, especially since they don't offer desire 2 yet (3.7 without keyboard) i want a stock new sense experience on my desire, i don't like heavily customized roms
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Anyone know when the Desire is considered an older device? I'm sure it'll continue to be manufactured and sold for a while now - not everyone wants a big phone or a keyboard. Am assuming a new Desire replacement won't be out until next spring.
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no they didnt, they go winmo 6.5 but only got sence 2.1, sence 2.5 is exclusive to the HD2
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Ups your right. My girlfriends diamond2 i had here recently, was equipped with a custom ROM. Nevermind...
Diamond 2 did receive the HD2 sense officially, look it up
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actually your wrong here, i'm glad someone brought it up so i looked it up
HTC did upgrade both the diamond 2 and touchpro2 to sense 2.5
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=2&dl_id=912
http://www.jayceooi.com/2010/03/20/download-rom-version-2-53-405-5-upgrade-for-htc-touch-diamond2/\
i wish htc did the same for my diamond 1, i wanted the topaz TouchFLO so badly but it never happened (officially and it was very hard for the community to port)
waw this makes me hopeful if we keep nagging about it we will get it, especially since they don't offer desire 2 yet (3.7 without keyboard) i want a stock new sense experience on my desire, i don't like heavily customized roms
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right when the topaz came out it had touchflo 3d 2.1 after the update they got sence 2.1 ........ sence 2.5 is the one where you can put the big shortcuts on the homescreen, neither the diamond 2 or touch pro 2 has that officially
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its considered an older fone when a new fone with a better cpu comes out lol
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right when the topaz came out it had touchflo 3d 2.1 after the update they got sence 2.1 ........ sence 2.5 is the one where you can put the big shortcuts on the homescreen, neither the diamond 2 or touch pro 2 has that officially
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did you even check the link....update 2.53 gives you sense 2.5
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did you even check the link....update 2.53 gives you sense 2.5
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i just did it now you are right smart arse
yes, from experience the desire is now considered as an old phone, and if you think otherwise then you haven't been with HTC for long enough to know better.
when i bought the HTC HD2 i was really happy with it, updates were coming from everywhere. then, the desire was released, end of updates for the HD2.
the desire has been out for about 6 months now, several newer devices have been released the desire itself has been updated into 2 new handsets, and many more are yet to come, how long will htc support the desire?
google the HTC glacier, planned to have dual-core processors/gingerbread etc and is due in about 3 months, htc have more things to deal with than the desire.
don't think for a second i don't like the desire, i've had it for 6 months and i love it, best phone i've ever used and will continue using it for the next year, but many people know that htc aren't too good support wise and it wouldn't surprise me if we see the support for our beloved device stop.
i was as skeptical and i was sure we won't get it, especially still burned from diamond days
but having learned today diamond 2 and touchpro 2 did actually receive the HD2 sense, i'm really surprised i think we should give it a chance
HD2 was outdated software wise maybe because windows mobile 6 reached the end of its life? and we still don't know maybe it will receive windows 7
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yes, from experience the desire is now considered as an old phone, and if you think otherwise then you haven't been with HTC for long enough to know better.
when i bought the HTC HD2 i was really happy with it, updates were coming from everywhere. then, the desire was released, end of updates for the HD2.
the desire has been out for about 6 months now, several newer devices have been released the desire itself has been updated into 2 new handsets, and many more are yet to come, how long will htc support the desire?
google the HTC glacier, planned to have dual-core processors/gingerbread etc and is due in about 3 months, htc have more things to deal with than the desire.
don't think for a second i don't like the desire, i've had it for 6 months and i love it, best phone i've ever used and will continue using it for the next year, but many people know that htc aren't too good support wise and it wouldn't surprise me if we see the support for our beloved device stop.
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the htc glacier is going to be t-mobile only tho isnt it? aparantly htc and t-mobile have been working on it under the name project sapphire
Hi
Does anyone know if android 2.3 is arriving on the HTC Desire?
if it does when?
-Frederik Thorsted
Within next few weeks, , hopefully before x-mas
Thank you very much
Maybe sooner if someone does a quick port of the sdk emulator image
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Maybe sooner if someone does a quick port of the sdk emulator image
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Sources will be most likely released before a "quick port" of sdk emulator image.
will it be an official update?
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Within next few weeks, , hopefully before x-mas
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Gingerbread ROM will be released within two weeks for the Nexus One..I'm sure that someone of our fine devs will port it to the Desire..But so far HTC made no announcements regarding an official Gingerbread update for us.. Anyway, -my beloved developers ( )- some guys have uploaded some gingerbread stuff ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863317 ) but I dont really know what this is..Will we get a custom ginger anytime soon?
so we still dont know if desire will get gingerbread officially from HTC??
unfortunately the desire won't recieve the official release...market reason...
And where did you get this information? Unless you can provide a source nothing is definite yet
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unfortunately the desire won't recieve the official release...market reason...
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bit of a bold statement.
seeing as the nexus 1 and nexus s cpu speed is the same spec i see no reason why HTC will not upgrade at some point the 3 desire phones as these are there flagships. by not upgrading the standard desire they risk losing people who must have '2.3' to another brand. My view is in early 2011 they will roll this update out to all 3 and also bring the standard desire up to the HD and Z in sense terms. i believe they held this off for marketing reasons. Juts my view mind.
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bit of a bold statement.
seeing as the nexus 1 and nexus s cpu speed is the same spec i see no reason why HTC will not upgrade at some point the 3 desire phones as these are there flagships. by not upgrading the standard desire they risk losing people who must have '2.3' to another brand. My view is in early 2011 they will roll this update out to all 3 and also bring the standard desire up to the HD and Z in sense terms. i believe they held this off for marketing reasons. Juts my view mind.
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My thoughts exactly, if not, someone will eventually port .
Yes.. My feeling is that the desire will get the new Sense along with Gingerbread release.
Well.. even if they dont release it officially for Desire, they will have to release it anyway for the Z/HD and our mods can port it in no time. Our Desires dont have the hardware limitation (especially internal storage with A2SD/D2SD). Then we desire users can flash those roms and show the finger to HTC...
We have the mods... they are our gods!!
Market reason?
With the 2 years warranty there must be not only assistance in case of broken phone, but also the confirmation of continous upgrading with new software, bugfix until the 2 years are passed and 'til the phone risk not to support th upgrading.
This should be the real 2 year warranty so much declared in the instructions and things like that
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bit of a bold statement.
seeing as the nexus 1 and nexus s cpu speed is the same spec i see no reason why HTC will not upgrade at some point the 3 desire phones as these are there flagships. by not upgrading the standard desire they risk losing people who must have '2.3' to another brand. My view is in early 2011 they will roll this update out to all 3 and also bring the standard desire up to the HD and Z in sense terms. i believe they held this off for marketing reasons. Juts my view mind.
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according to an article I read on pocketnow, HTC comes out with 2.3 in March of 2011.
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And where did you get this information? Unless you can provide a source nothing is definite yet
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my dad is the managaer of HTC italia company...he told me that...but he wasn't sure...but i hope it wll release it!!!
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my dad is the managaer of HTC italia company...he told me that...but he wasn't sure...but i hope it wll release it!!!
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Daniele De Grandis
Country Manager, Italy
HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
He has no child.
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alwayslearning said:
according to an article I read on pocketnow, HTC comes out with 2.3 in March of 2011.
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I hope it comes out before
well, there's still hope: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...d-android-2-3-update--913929?src=rss&attr=all
and for the "quick port", it indeed came quick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863884
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i'm joking guy...come on sorry hihi...however i hope that gingerbread will be official on our Desires too!
http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc-romania/gingerbread-pentru-htc-desire/223475751011104
They say that HTC Desire memory doesn't support Sense and 2.3. As usual, the smart guys around here proved that it does work
It doesn't have the memory for it, we know that. The Devs have proved it can run it but only using EXT partitions on the SD card which Google won't use as the average user won't know how to make one
Quote:
"Our teams of engineers have worked hard in recent months to update the Gingerbread HTC HTC Desire without compromising Sense experience that you have grown accustomed to our phones. However, we are sorry but we must assume that there is enough memory to allow portability and storage Gingerbread experience on HTC HTC Sense Desire. We are very sorry for the disappointment that this news will cause many of you."
So... They say it will stick on froyo or update with old sense?
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So its true ...
On a lighter note...
XDA Desire DEVS RULE, you know who you are snq-, NeoPhYte.x360, RCTeam, BaadNwz, CoolExe and anybody body else i cant think of now.
I would rather spend my money on you guys because you offer way better support.
Wow, that really sucks!
Here's the announcement in English
facebook.com/notes/htc-uk/desire-and-gingerbread-update/225607660802056
Sorry for the borked link, not enough posts yet. Perhaps I lurk too much?
http://facebook.com/notes/htc-uk/desire-and-gingerbread-update/225607660802056
link for you.
thanks murdi
So HTC say that the phone can't run Gingerbread and Sense - but the leaked one did...?
so why not leave the old sense on and update the phone - or better yet - update it to the latest version of Froyo and fix the bugs with the HTC mail etc. so that it can work with Hotmail EAS...
little things would be nicer than squat... even though I'm not going to use it
Well, this is my first and last htc device.
I totally don't care... Sense UI sucks, CyanogenMod, MIUI & AdamG are the best
this is bull**** guys!!
the wildifre S has the same amount of memory and runs gingerbread and sense 2.1 and even with the 3.0 lockscreen!!!! their just as lazy as ****
I am so f.... mad right now, was waiting for this f.... gingerbread and now he wont come... I wont buy HTC phone anymore just becouse this tease. And I am going to tell all my friends not to buy any of their products anymore.
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Well, this is my first and last htc device.
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That's a shame - I do like HTC's phones and the only thing that let this phone down was the low internal memory situation, and their excuse for this too.
I'd buy another but i'd be a little cautious about it next time.
My Blackstone/Touch HD is still working very well, and that hasn't had any updates for ages but it looks like a NAND image may be coming soon for it which will spring some life into it again...
So the Desire is far from dead as the dev's here can perform miracles sometimes...
still plan on keeping my phone for the remainder of this year at least with the hopes that the custom roms keep me going!
Wow, a lot of fickle people on this forum...
Guys, we were never guaranteed updates from HTC at any point. The fact we got FroYo was because it was the top line device at the time. You can't compare the Wildfire S to the Desire. The Desire is over a year old, the Wildfire is less than a month old - of course it'll get a new version.
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Wow, a lot of fickle people on this forum...
Guys, we were never guaranteed updates from HTC at any point. The fact we got FroYo was because it was the top line device at the time. You can't compare the Wildfire S to the Desire. The Desire is over a year old, the Wildfire is less than a month old - of course it'll get a new version.
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but then its bull**** if they say its the 'memory', just say ITS TOO OLD TO UPDATE! .
just be honest HTC!!!! dont come with lies!
I know no one guaranteed the update..and also don't care so much because the are the custom roms..
But anyway nothing good in htc for me..That just my opnion
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but then its bull**** if they say its the 'memory', just say ITS TOO OLD TO UPDATE! .
just be honest HTC!!!! dont come with lies!
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absolutely agreed! It's a shame...
I mentioned before that the Google I/O stated that manufacturers should put the latest version on phones if the hardware can cope - if that applies here then that is a great get-out-clause for not upgrading the desire..
although - we do know that HTC worked on it - see leaked rom.
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I mentioned before that the Google I/O stated that manufacturers should put the latest version on phones if the hardware can cope - if that applies here then that is a great get-out-clause for not upgrading the desire..
although - we do know that HTC worked on it - see leaked rom.
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their just to lazy man!!
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... but don't forget; when desire came to the market (April 2010) it came with v2.1 eclair, then abt 4 months later, upgraded to 2.2 froyo whereas SE-X10 came with 1.6 (donut) almost at the same time with the desire and upgraded to eclair in November or December 2010, on the other side, Samsung Galaxy-S came with eclair in summer 2010, upgraded to froyo just two or three months ago (know that it will receive GB too soon).. shortly I cannot blame or judge HTC with that; when I decided to buy my Desire, it was the best choice to date (April 2010). Now the only way to root and step into the cooked rom world.
Cheers!
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Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student
No. It almost didn't get Gingerbread.
but the desire got gingerbread, look here: htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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but the desire got gingerbread, look here: htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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He said almost. The desire HD isn't getting it, and that's the next Gen of the desire. Case closed
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Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student
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And it has hardware specs superior to Desire, not to mention 15 times larger internal memory.
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And it has hardware specs superior to Desire, not to mention 15 times larger internal memory.
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Also known as: Lazy corporations not caring about the customers. F*ck HTC, bad build quality, not keeping phones up-to-date, only good thing is their customer service which fixed my phone every time no questions asked. Next phone will be Samsung.
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Also known as: Lazy corporations not caring about the customers. F*ck HTC, bad build quality, not keeping phones up-to-date, only good thing is their customer service which fixed my phone every time no questions asked. Next phone will be Samsung.
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You think HTC is bad build quality? Whenever I hold a SGS2 in my hand, ive got the feeling im holding a worthless piece of plastic. I still have a few months to think about the new phone im goinna pick, but I think I will miss Sense too much once I choose a non htc phone.
No, as the others already said, there wont be an original ICS-ROM for the Desire.
And the user "stankyou" meant by saying "No. It almost didn't get Gingerbread." that the stock Gingerbread ROM on Desire is just a light version of GB.
And yeah, its really a evidence of incapacity of HTC to not support a not even 2 years old flagship (at the time it was launched) smartphone. But Samsung and most of the other Android smartphones producers are quite the same unfortunately. Only Sony (Ericsson) showed way more effort in the last few months.
And for me HTC really lost the lead in technology a bit and some people are also saying that the devices of HTC suffer the loss of manufacture quality. My next Phone will probably be a Samsung even though the quality of the covers isnt the best.
There are several ICS Roms in development - but these are all stock.
I'd imagine once HTC Roms with ICS start getting out in the wild, somebody will probably try and port them to the Desire.
Considering the limited hardware, I wouldn't hold out too much hope for them being any good though.
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Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student
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Wrong. Samsung isn't releasing ICS for the original Galaxy S. They might be releasing a 'value pack'.
And im100% sure that the original Desire won't get ICS officially.
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Yeah, really bad move from HTC! :/
yeah, you pay good money for a device with good spec and you expect, because of the spec you would get more updates other than just JB, poor move HTC
It's not that I'm disappointed by the amount of updates, it's more that the updates HTC gave us constantly broke things. One of the first Updates added a new bootloader which broke the compactiblity of CM10, the update to 3.20.XXX.3 added a new touch driver which broke compactiblity to touch in recovery (at least if you still want to be able to use mass storage/adb) and the 4.2.2 update broke our wifi in october and htc still didn't bother to deliver a fix after almost half a year! I would have prefered when they had just made a single update from 4.0 to 4.2 and even keeped sense 4 as long as they had delived a fully working rom.
An other problem of htc are their kernel source releases: they always wait till the end of the 90-days-period after the rom-update before they release it, even though they definitly had it since the release of the rom update. Take an example at samsung: they haven't updated the note 3 to 4.4yet but the kernel source is already there!
I will never, ever again buy another HTC or Tegra phone.
Vote with your wallet, and don't buy HTC again. I certainly won't.
I think all phone manufacturers should keep phones updated for 2 years minimum as that is how long most phone contracts are for.
In the EU they are already covered by a 2 year warranty, i would expect the update issue to be forced in this region for the same reason.
Here is hoping any way
It is funny that for example LG will upgrade some low end devices to 4.4,a HTC wont upgrade One X and One X+ and they still have decent hardware and very nice display...shame on you HTC
I made my views pretty clear. HTC won't listen, if they do, it'll be a half ar**d support like the desire, desire HD...etc etc. Next time i'm just getting a google nexus phone outright and a 30 day rolling contract. Bye Bye HTC, hope you either learn or sink
The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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Rotten Ross said:
The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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What are the features on Kitkat that we don't have on 4.2.2 Sense 5 ?
I had the Frustration of updates when i was on desire z 2.2 and the upgrade to 2.3 (download manager and the toggle buttons) was extremely late in my country
but since hox started 4.1 i have not found Google adding any thing revolutionary that make a lot of difference to the device experience
I have been using HTC because of the build and the design of devices, only thing i hate about how htc handled hox is the brokern wifi on the current build, it has been disappointing
Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.
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Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.
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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.
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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.
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Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
Cheers
Yep waste of space thread, if you want kit kat flash one of the 2 variants posted in this section.
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Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
Cheers
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well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.
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well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.
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Why do you look for a side to put a blame on? You're still using the word "support" for upgrading a sofware to an upper version, but let stay in terms, if we're looking for "ethical", this does NOT mean support. I can get many things as your opinion, but this is NOT. HTC does still support One X, it is not upgrading the software to another major version, that is it. Don't wanna look annoying but I am a software and management consultant and make lots of Support and Maintenance agreements, what you want is not support.
Well, you want an ethical solution.. In Turkey One X was still sold I think ended about 4-5 months ago, and with 3 year contracts. It is also sold for a long time, may be not in Western countries or in Oceania, but deciding just for those countries is not legal right? So, how long the upgrade process should last then? till 2016? 2017? This has no ethical solution. You used the key word, most. This is the best way to measure the economic point of view Would you like to make a market analysis to find out when the One X is sold most? Would you choose a specific month of a year? This is a dead-end bro, believe me.
Again, don't wanna look annoying, but then get a crapsung, you do know they do update their phones further, that is clear from Sensation/S2.
This is how HTC makes their market strategy and you might say that it is clear that ther strategy is not working, but most of experts beliece upgrades are not the main reason for this.
Anyways, I don't wanna "troll" in the topic where people write their opinions, just wanted to share mine.
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But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4
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But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4
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But then are we looking for an ethical solution, if we choose the start point as global release? I may have bought my phone as soon as it is released in my country and it could have been December 2012, and I might have gotten it with a three year contract. Who has the blame for my situation then? And the two is years is something just we made up since "most" of the users get the phone in two-year contracts and the warranty is for two years.
One last update.. But we still haven't reached May 2014, and till then Google might release a 4.5? Wouldn't we want it then?
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The only way we can change things regarding updates is to try to evoke a law where the minimal update timeframe is set
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Well that´s another Problem with all the phone brands who build Android phones.
The updates take much too long to get released for the phones.
If I would follow your logic we still should get Android Kit Kat since it was released in November. A better example would be 4.3 which was released for Nexus phones 2 months before 4.2 was released for HOX(+).
It effectively means we got 2 big Android revisions (4.1 + 4.2) which means 1 year of support but it was only stretched from April 2012 (official release) to July/August 2013 (last update)
And just for your interest. It doesn´t matter how long the carrier contracts run or when it was released in YOUR country. It´s about unbranded devices which are officially released. Carrier branded phones shouldn´t be bought anymore and/or the consumer shouldn´t choose them anymore to make clear that the way carriers are working isn´t consumer friendly but that´s a whole different point