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Hello Guys
Just bought my Desire - but it was pre-installed with the 2.2, is there any easy solution for rooting this?
Downgrade then use unrevoked
Hi Numsefis,
you need to downgrade your phones HBOOT. Read this: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745903
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okay.. that's great, but hoped that there would be an easier solution, for the HBOOT 0,92.. But i'll root it and install new firmware... Will you prefer the OpenDesire or Stock ROM?
you will loose your ROM and all settings. The .zip contains a Stock 2.1 ROM. After the downgrade you need to unrevoke and flash a new one.
I'm using this: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
very nice, will it be possible to make a backup with the HTC function before root, and then restore when rooted?
What's the Radio package for?
The Backup only stores personal Data. Your ROM will be gone. After unrevoking your phone you will have the Nandroid BackUp.
Basically, the radio rom is the firmware that runs the phone, wireless and blutooth portions of the phone. Newer versions are likly to improve performance or fix bugs.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687464
OK thanks....
Then i root the phone, install 2,2 then make a nandroid backup when the phone is configured... And also install the radio fix...
Hopefully i can get paid apps in my market
downgrade -> unrevoke -> radio -> rom -> enjoy
Check your private messages and/or read this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749551
ps: sry for double post
Thx alot for the info, but my phone was running HBOOT 0,92, so i think it's okay
from my link
Q. What is the difference between HBOOT 0.83 and 0.92?
A. 0.92 is installed if you apply the official OTA froyo update. If you care about rooting and custom ROMs, you want to avoid the OTA update currently.
Q. How do I downgrade to HBOOT 0.80?
A. Don't - there is no reason to. If you want to root or use a custom ROM or debrand there is no need to. If you have an SLCD screen, the current method for downgrading will break your screen.
Q. Can I debrand my phone with HBOOT 0.83?
A. Yes. If your software version is 1.21.405.2 or lower (for example, branded O2 phones), you can simply use this RUU with a goldcard to debrand and install stock 1.21.405.2. You can then upgrade to OTA froyo if you wish to. This RUU will also flash your HBOOT to 0.83.
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can't get unrevoked to find my phone.... :S
have you installed the USB Driver like the html document says?
Yep, got it working, the guide i read, missed a step, that the ADB driver should be installed under Restore....
Now i got my phone rooted, and installed the Market fix... BUT i can't see that the market is unlocked for all programs???
Hey Guys,
im getting a Desire through Telstra tonight, and the first thing i want to do is debrand the thing.
I have read up on some things but still a little confused, can someone point me in the right direction, of 1 how to unlock the phone, root it and the best ROM to install on it.
Much Appreciated
Ok i think i know what im doing now.
One thing though, i just want a normal rom to put on it, just debranded, can anyone recommend me something?
I dont really want custom roms etc
Look in the sticky in rom section, shows the stock roms available. Then you can upgrade to stock 2.2
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Ok so if i use this rom
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe
Which are not rooted do i still need to root the device etc or can i just use this rom and it will update and remove the telstra stuff?
And is this the latest normal 2.2 Rom?
You need to root to debrand, then put the stock Rom on
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Ok no worries ill do that, but is the rom i posted the correct Stock 2.2 Rom i would use in AUS? for the Desire?
Just remember having a goldcard always inserted, while debranding and OTA updating.
I was gunna do this method, no goldcard needed.
http://myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-root-your-desire-easily-method-2
But do i only have to have the goldcard inserted while updating and rooting, then i can remove it?
Widge86 said:
I was gunna do this method, no goldcard needed.
http://myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-root-your-desire-easily-method-2
But do i only have to have the goldcard inserted while updating and rooting, then i can remove it?
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HI there,
I used the unrevoked method and this provides "root" and ClockworkMod Recovery. I then initially downloaded [ROM-FroYo] Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM (16/07 v1.0c | OpenDesire Team) link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726300
The above rom is very much like the standard HTC sense ROM but without the Tel$tra bloatware. Have a good search on xda though as there have been a number of roms (sense like) been released since this one.
I have since moved on to [ROM-FROYO AOSP] OpenDesire v3.6.1 (720P | 2.6.34.5 SVS KERNEL | 1305mhz) (26/08). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712615
This rom is a "vanilla" (plain) version of the android OS and is half the size of the sense ROM, and is clean and fast, but you lose the "sense" interface and the HTC FM radio.
Everything else camera, wi-fi, GPS, phone, etc works perfectly from me.
BTW, all this is on a Tel$ta Desire (A8183) that is 3 months old. I have had no probs at all.
Hope this helps
Thats awesome info great so ill use the guide i posted to Root the device then i can install any ROM i wont, i think ill use the original 2.2 Rom that i posted earlier in the thread
to confirm even if i want to use a stock HTC RUU rom from the Stock Rom page i still have to Root my device?
Widge86 said:
to confirm even if i want to use a stock HTC RUU rom from the Stock Rom page i still have to Root my device?
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It would be pointless rooting before applying an RUU, as it's not necessary and the flash process will remove root anyway.
That RUU you pointed to will break a Desire with an SLCD screen, so be warned.
Ok so i should just use a hacked rom thats based on the normal one, how do i find out if the phone i have is SLCD?
You can still use an official ROM. Read this for lots of info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749551
WOW now im even more confused i used to be able to hack my old HTC Touch Pro easily lol.
Ok so i have to hope my Telstra delivered phone is still AMOLED, then i wont have any dramas, to be honest im not much into running a custom rom, id rather just get rid of the telstra crap thats going to be on the phone, but i also do not want to brick it or break the screen in the process.
So if i just use one of the RUU updates in your post you linked me too it doesnt matter if its AMOLED or SLCD i can update to it without rooting?
Ill get the phone first work out if i have SLCD or not, then go from there.
I wont Froyo on my phone and no telstra stuff so i can make a goldcard and update, or if i have a AMOLED phone use the Rooting tool and update to any rooted ROM correct?
You can debrand on any type of screen using the correct RUU. You can root both types too.
If you root you cannot run an official ROM, but you can run something almost exactly the same.
Which Froyo Rom (rooted) would be the closest to stock?
To Confirm if i have an AMOLED phone i can just update a Stock Non Branded ROM without rooting? By placing the update.zip on the phone and updating using recovery mode?
Widge86 said:
Which Froyo Rom (rooted) would be the closest to stock?
To Confirm if i have an AMOLED phone i can just update a Stock Non Branded ROM without rooting? By placing the update.zip on the phone and updating using recovery mode?
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hi widge
just go with the flow, unbrand it, root it and play with all the roms, your gonna love it. try em all and see what u like best. I am on nextsense rom 7 at the mo and waiting for the kitchen to open again so i can do some cooking. Tried opendesire a while back and it was pretty mint, may take a lokk at it again myself.
You can't switch to an unbranded rom by using update.zip files, you use an RUU to flash the phone, which requires a goldcard.
To install custom roms you root and install them as zip files in recovery.
You can do both on an SLCD or AMOLED screen, but with an SLCD screen you have to be more careful which RUU you use.
Hi,
I have a stock DHD, which has 2.2 via OTA.
I have gone through a lot of forums articles here on xda but am still not sure about the below points:
1) I know that Visionary would not work on my phone unless i downgrade. But I am confused, wouldn't downgrading remove all the fixes and enhancements which came in 2.2.1 over 2.1 android??
2) Is there any other clean and tested way to root my phone apart from Visionary, which does not need me to downgrade?
3) Apart from the Visionary way, is there any existing way to temproot my phone?
You're downgrading firmware to a rootable one, you're not going back to 2.1, basically you're still on froyo 2.2. Basically you can't root without downgrading, there is no other way.
If you're planning on running custom roms then you can just flash roms with 2.3 or 2.2.1
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Yes, downgrading will put you back to software version 1.32, but if you have software version 1.72 or above you will not be able to get root access to your phone.
As soon as you have downgraded, gained permanent root, and optionally gained s-off or eng s-off you will be able to install custom roms of your choice with the newest leaked softare ex Gingerbread.
By my knowledge its no other way to root your DHD, but to follow the very good treads in the developer section.
But the downgrade bit is only a temporary state that you need to do before you install a custom ROM with all the newest features.
But then this means, the there would be no way to keep a backup(nandorid) etc. of my stock/untouched state
If something goes wrong, I would be without a backup of my undisturbed original state.
As far as I know you need temproot to downgrade, but that is in basic shell so you're still not able to make a nandroid backup...
dear fellow G2 users,
seek your patience & expertise to guide me on unrooting (i think i rooted?) my Desire Z, & reverting to my original ROM. have tried search Google & XDA, but got no clues where to pick up.
basically, my "rooting" involves installing the Superuser.apk (if you call that rooting). ROM is still original, & the only non-official stuff i installed was ClockModRecovery.
purpose to unroot is for my phone to receive the official HTC update.
would very much appreciate if the community here can point me in the right direction or guide me step-by-step.
thank you in advance.
What method did you do to gain root? If you want try one of the custom roms? There is rooted roms that are updated to current and are close if not fully stock jus difference they have root privilages
I don't think you are rooted. If rooting is as easy as installing Superuser.apk we won't be hearing about phones that are unrootable.
Install 'Root Checker' from Market to verify if you're indeed rooted, which I doubt considering the steps you've taken to root.
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I don't think you are rooted. If rooting is as easy as installing Superuser.apk we won't be hearing about phones that are unrootable.
Install 'Root Checker' from Market to verify if you're indeed rooted, which I doubt considering the steps you've taken to root.
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Yeah, pretty sure your not rooted if that's all you have done
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
thanks fer the replies! much appreciate.
ok the root checker works both ways:
1) if i grant Root Checker access under Superuser.apk to verify if i'm rooted, it says yes i'm rooted.
2) if i deny Superuser access, it says not rooted.
how do i proceed on from here?
thanks fer your patience once again!
So you just installed superuser, and then you where able to grant superuser permissions and flash a rom with clockworks? Did you buy your phone used by any chance? Cuz it boggles my mind how you could do that without a proper rooting
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
hey there delirious,
i got it as a used phone with superuser installed by the previous owner. but that's about what he did.
the rom is still original, neither custom nor modified.
the clockwork is just the clockworkrecovery only.
Well if you never rooted in the regular way, then it just doesn't seem possible that you have root. If you where to uninstall cloockworks and superuser than your phone should be the same as before you installed them. You could do a factory reset after uninstallng, then do a root check. After all that, you can feel same updating. Unless you have removed some system files. But I don't think you can do that without s-off
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
But you should double check with the seller, just to make sure he didn't do anything else
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
Edit: what does your phone say when you boot into recovery?
i tried factory reset, the superuser still exists, so do the clockworkrecovery. this is what is preventing me from receiving the official updates.
it says clockworkmod recovery?
Okay, you have to be rooted some way. Talk to the seller and see what he did. And in recovery, do you have s-off, or s-on?
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
The more I think about this the more it seems your phone has had the visionary app's perm root option used on it. I have to stress that this app is not the most stable when it comes to perm root, and there has been lots of phones bricked from it, that might be why the seller neglectedto meantion it. I used it back when I first rooted and your phone sounds just like mine was. Superuser permissions but no s-off.
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
ok i screwed up & did a dumb move.
i followed this guide: www[dot]addictivetips[dot]com/mobile/how-to-unroot-t-mobile-g2-htc-desire-z-complete-guide/
it installs the stock_rom half & says failed due to file error.
upon reboot, it shows the T-Mobile G2 logo & stock Android.
where can i find the official stock ROM for Desire Z Asia?
i found this webbie: shipped-roms[dot]com/index[dot]php?category=android&model=Vision
but not sure which is the rom to pick.
alternatively, since i'm pretty much stuck in T-mobile now, could you guide me through on flashing one of the custom ROMs instead? or stock rom, whichever is easier.
much appreciate!
I need to know if you have s-off before I will try to walk you through any rom flashing
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
Oh, and I have no clue where to find the desire z Asia stock rom.sorry
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
no worries, you are willing to guide me through custom rom flashing that's good enough =D
ok using the T-mobile G2 bootloader, it brings me to this. first line:
Vision PVT Ship S-Off
Hboot-0.85.0005
Microp-0425
Radio-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-Boot
will this help to tell you if i have S-OFF?
Yes, s-off means everything! It also means whoever sold you the phone lied to you... but that's okay, rooted phones are better but anyways, what kind of rom do you want to install? Take a look through the development section for the g2/desirez to get a idea of what's available. I would personally recommend cyanogenmod7. But it's personal preference really.
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
xxkidxx said:
where can i find the official stock ROM for Desire Z Asia?
i found this webbie: shipped-roms[dot]com/index[dot]php?category=android&model=Vision
but not sure which is the rom to pick.
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Pick the one that says "Asia", then HK = Hong Kong, TW = Taiwan, India = you can figure that out. Other Asian countries is WWE (worldwide English). As far as the version, 1.34, 1.82, etc. The higher numbers are more recent. But anything above 1.34 is not rootable.
But if you flash any of the official ROMs, you will lose root. ROM versions 1.34 or lower can be re-rooted.
If you only intent is to get the Gingerbread OTA, I'd say don't bother going back to stock. The OTA will be posted here when its released. And probably in a pre-rooted form soon after.
If you want a custom ROM, it depends on what you are looking for interface-wise (Sense, AOSP, MIUI), Froyo vs. Gingerbread, etc.
If you want a custom ROM similar to stock Sense, then Virtuous is the way to go. Its based on the Sense Froyo 1.85 ROM, but rooted, overclocked to 1 GHz (with other options available), and a few other cool options. But mostly stock beyond that.
thanks Delirious and redpoint for your valued inputs!
redpoint: ah, didn't know stock rom has so much limitations nowadays. wanted the original ROM so that i can update my phone. since can't root now, might as well go fer custom.
Delirious: sure, i go with Cyanogen. kindly walk me through it. much appreciate!
a problem i noted though with the T-Mobile G2 (it was originally a Desire Z), i can't access my 3G or Wi-Fi. so downloading apps are out of the question.
i do have clockworkmod already installed if that helps, but its not the latest version.
just an update, i managed to switch back to Desire Z using someone's Nandroid backup.
its still rooted, thought can you tell me how to check for the s-off thingy?
so i think i'm all set for flashing to Cyanogen (i think).
Hello, I am a noob, i dont want to be a noob, but i am one anyway, so be kind and answer my noob questions
( and yes i did tried to find the answers and no i didn't find them.. )
1. after rooting with unrevoked - ( default sttings - no touching )
what ROM whould i have?
the same Stock HTC Sense Froyo - Android 2.2 + ROOT (superuser, busybox..)
or a Stock Android 2.2 rom?
1.1 and could i install apps2sd+ on that rooted system?
1.2 or i would be without any rom, and i would need to install one from the SD from Recovery ( the default one after enrevoked - Clockwork )
( i'm planning on this one)
1.3. if i do have some rom installed after unrevooked: what do i get from that Rom i wish to download from XDA that i dont get in the Rom after enrevoked?
anywhere i look for the anser to that i cant find a difinative answer for that..
2. what is the recommended methon to create an ext3/4 partition and what is the max or recommended partition size for Desire (i have 16GB low-class sandisk SD, but i dont mind waitng)
well the answers ARE out there (yes they are) but here you go again:
1.1) after gaining root with unrevoked you will simply have a stock HTC rom with root access (and a custom recovery - clockworkmod)
1.2) you cannot apply A2SD+ to this ROM you will have right after rooting, what you can do is to download a pre-rooted Stock ROM (same as one you have now) with A2SD+ implemented. however it would be stupid, custom roms are faster, better in performance and in battery life so go for them)
1.3) i guess the answer is the same as for the 1.2nd Q
2) best method is to use Gparted Live CD (it is a bootable CD) download it and burn to a CD then boot it up @ pc. mount USB storage in recovery on the phone, plug it in PC and format your sd.
for a2sd+ FAT32 and after a 1GB EXT3/4 (ext4 is better, dont use more than 1GB it may cause trouble, and 1GB is looots of space)
for data2ext or other there should be a recommended partition layout that will make them work as good as they can in your ROM's thread.
also as you are a new user i do recommend going S-OFF (is as easy as rooting, seriously - CD method) then appling a custom hboot and running an InsertCoin ROM CM7 - with custom hboot it will be super fast and you will get lots of space.
when doing S-OFF remember to be either on stock rooted rom or on oxygen rom.
Thanks for the answer, for now i'm planning on the Stock pre-rooted one with a2sd+.
that's because i'm looking for a rom with:
1. Sense ( Froyo sense since the GingerB sensation sense needs S-OFF..)
2. a2sd+ ( Max optimal size for the partition )
2. Minimal add-on apps on the Rom.
3. Minimal removed apps ( maybe with ability to manualy remove a system app but i dont know if that again requires S-OFF )
4. maybe a gingerbread style shutdown\wakeup ( CRT Style ) animation?
i allready searched the pinned topics for a Rom like that and all i found is the pre-rooted stock..
i dont want to be deviating from the Stock sense with too many changes, and on the other hand i do want to be able to make some changes to the rom.
the rom i currently wish to use has Undervolt -100mv and it says it's for support with the kernel of the RUU, but if it's a pre rooted why isnt it allready supporing the RUU..?
and in that Rom's page there is a recommended Radio img, but i Dont have to change to it right..? ( It's only recommended NOT required.. )
anyway my RUU+Radio is:
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe
Nearly all GB ROM's will work fine with S-ON (Stock HBOOT), dunno where did you get this info.
Example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038195]
k3lcior said:
Nearly all GB ROM's will work fine with S-ON (Stock HBOOT), dunno where did you get this info.
Example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038195]
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got that info from my local android fans forum, which also didnt gave me difinative answer yet..
Then now you know - you dont need S-OFF for Gingerbread A2SD ROM's.
As for number 2.
Use g-parted to make the partitions, there is a video guide in the desire dev forums, its on of the stickys. I would post a link, but I'm not at my pc . You don't really want to go over the 1GB for the ext partition, any thing bigger starts to slow down the ROM
I had a feeling that the GB roms did need a new radio, or at least some if them do. But the ROM should tell you if that is the case.
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in both the Roms i now intresten in it says 'Recommended' Radio, and since i'm a Noob user i do not have premission to post at the dev forums and ask on the Rom's topic.
one of them is acually the radio i ahve now, but the LeeDroid one Recommends a deffrent one and again from the info i gathered from my local forum for android 2.3 with Sense i HAVE to change the radio, is that true \ false?
is Recommended = Required || OR || Recommended != Required..
<@LeeDrOiD-> matched radio is generally a good idea - iRC channel...
you never MUST change radio
it is only recommended, do it if you encounter problems with connectivity after flashing a rom (reception, wi-fi etc)
however i think you MUST have a radio from 2.2 (froyo) roms at least
if you rooted while on 2.2 you should be ok, if you were on 2.1 while rooting try updating the radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054435
Awesome rom ... try it Don't need s-off
Flash radio from first page also ...
3. Minimal removed apps ( maybe with ability to manualy remove a system app but i dont know if that again requires S-OFF ) - System app remover is an option
why in LeeDroid's rom and and the last submitted rom, there's undervolt?
why does the Rom needs to be undervolt and how does that effect the preformance&stability of the system?
Also What is the best method for saving space ( a2sd+ \ data2whatever \ ...? )
ROMs dont need undervolting, they dont need anything...
undervolting is set up in kernel, and it means the processor will work under smaller voltage which leads to better battery life but generally it compromises stability. however they wouldnt set it to a value that would cause trouble, so this is just an info for geeks so that they know that by default the kernel provided with rom undervolts the cpu (some may not like that, as they want for example best performance - overclocking rather than undervolting)
Thanks alot guys, you really helped me!
hopefully the rooting would go as smooth as butter,
i havn't dicided on a rom yet, since all the ones you sent in this thread are looking great!
Just try all of them and decide yourself.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I also wouldn't recommend that you do the S-Off until you've played with rom's and decided that you really must try a CM7 hboot rom or something. There's plenty can be done with S-On and it gives a degree of safety against bricking the phone. I speak from experience. I did however recover mine in the end after much learning but I really wouldn't go S-Off unless / until you understand the dangers associated with it and the somewhat limited benefits to those who know little of Linux or the Android OS.