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[Q] Help / Advice needed PLEASE..

Hi, I am new to the andriod platform an i have just got a HTC Desire with Virgin Mobile, PLEASE BE GENTLE.....
It does not seem to be sim locked as i have tried an Orange sim in the phone and it works.
I have seen a Desire with Froyo on it and want to upgrade my phone.
After trying all the guides on various forums i still cannot upgrade and VM is not offering the update OTA.
when trying the Goldcard method I get error wrong bootloader, when trying with the OTA named update.zip using recovery it also throws up an error and exits.
What i have done now is rooted the phone using unrevoked3 method which has worked.
i want to have a stock 2.2 phone, not bothered about keeping the root, if i put the OTA update.zip on the sd card (or goldcard as i have created one) and flash using the clockworkmod recovery which is now on my phone will this work or should i update the radio first and will i be able to get OTA updates in future ???
my desire is:
Firmware 2.1-update1
Baseband version 32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2
Software number 1.23.351.1
Bootloader 0.80.0000
when it boots it has the VM logo but apart from that there is no other branding on the phone.
Obviously i dont want to brick the phone, i have done lots of reading and i am still unsure of how i can get my phone updated.
Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help....

Your phone is rooted?
Simply download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
Which is a rooted but everything else is the same as stock 2.2. That way you'll have the option to use custom roms etc.
If you need step by step instructions to flashing as the guide on that page isn't so detailed let me know.

SavageCore said:
Your phone is rooted?
Simply download: h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
Which is a rooted but everything else is the same as stock 2.2. That way you'll have the option to use custom roms etc.
If you need step by step instructions to flashing as the guide on that page isn't so detailed let me know.
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Thanks for the reply , if i keep root i was thinking of trying this rom
h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726300
i take it since my desire is rooted and i am on boot 0.80.000 i will just need to flash radio first , then flash the rom??
will it matter that my desire is possibly classed as branded and has the operators custom firmware on looking at the software number???
do i just rename the radio to update.zip and put on sd card and flash with clockworkmod , then do the same with the rom ???
should i use the goldcard when doing the above or will any sd card be ok??
thanks again for the advice....

Update....
Took the plunge and installed radio 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 and then the Rooted Official HTC Android 2.2 (FroYo) ROM [Market issue fixed].
All went well but the phone was running slow.
Did a factory reset and wipe in clockworkmod and reinstalled the rom.
restored my apps using mybackup , got contacts back off google account and all is good now.

I'm gonna root my phone now BUT....

hi guys, as mentioned i am interested in rooting my desire.... below are some details of my desire and questions
- i bought a 2nd hand desire ( i suspect its rooted before *forgot to check* cos it has the superuser icon
- its running the bravo PVT4 S-on currently. Hboot 0.93.0001 Aug 12 2010
- current version: Froyo WWE 2.13.707.2 (suspected the user has applied OTA update) release 274424, baseband version 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2
-------heres comes my question------
rooting should be simple (from what i read using unrevoked)
i will be using unrevoked and creating a goldcard just incase...i will read the rest up.
1) how to remove the superuser icon when i unroot?
2) considering this has the OTA update can i use the official RUU and unroot without issues?
3) will my apps be there after i root?
4) how abt if i restore using rom manager wif the backup i create once after i root, will the apps be there?
PS i am totally new to android and its my first android phone and i dun wanna brick it....i also believe there are alot of nice people here as i have been here since the Touch HD days

1 & 2. You can only unroot by flashing the stock RUU, and I'm pretty sure the one you're on doesn't exist. You can try the .1 RUU on Shipped-ROMs but don't know if it'll work
3. Yes
4. Yes

EddyOS said:
1 & 2. You can only unroot by flashing the stock RUU, and I'm pretty sure the one you're on doesn't exist. You can try the .1 RUU on Shipped-ROMs but don't know if it'll work
3. Yes
4. Yes
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thanks for replying....
yup, the current one has no official RUU cos i believe its the OTA update
the RUU i can find is 2.13.707.1 (and afew differences) now my concern is if i wanna unroot using this RUU will it work or will it have any complications?
(take note that i am rooting on 2.13.707.2, and some differences in some other numbers)

any help?
thanks

Unless I am mistaken your phone is already rooted. The only way to have the superuser app is if you are rooted.

It should work but I dont think anyone will be able to 'guarantee' it!
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Why not return it to stock WWE version by using RRU and start from there?
You will need a goldcard and probably for it not to be SIM-locked.
Z.

[Q] ROM identification

hello,
i bought HTC Desire A8181 (from carphonewarehouse, UK), it came with 2.1-update 1, now it is 2.2 (2.29.405.5). i want to play with custom ROM. the following questions came to my mind. if I want to go back to untouched ROM? [i have not flashed my fone with custom ROM yet, but I want to. I want to understand the options. its a precautionary step I am taking]
1. how do I identify the RUU number for HTC A8181?
2. what is signed RUU?
3. if rooted with unrevoked3 but not flashed custom ROM can i receive HTC OTA updates?
5. what really changes when i root with unrevoked3?
sorry if my quarries sounds stupid, i am new to android, and learning the way of android.
tanx a lot

RUU = ROM Upgrade Utility
You match it to the version on your phone (2.29.405.5) - simple!!
Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbb7m2b4t5jejhm
Or here:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Keep it safe
Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up

mir.nazu said:
hello,
i bought HTC Desire A8181 (from carphonewarehouse, UK), it came with 2.1-update 1, now it is 2.2 (2.29.405.5). i want to play with custom ROM. the following questions came to my mind. if I want to go back to untouched ROM? [i have not flashed my fone with custom ROM yet, but I want to. I want to understand the options. its a precautionary step I am taking]
1. how do I identify the RUU number for HTC A8181?
2. what is signed RUU?
3. if rooted with unrevoked3 but not flashed custom ROM can i receive HTC OTA updates?
5. what really changes when i root with unrevoked3?
sorry if my quarries sounds stupid, i am new to android, and learning the way of android.
tanx a lot
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1) An RUU doesn't have a 'number' I am aware of, generally they are region or network provider specific. So being in England I would use the stock O2, Vodafone, Orange etc, RUU, or use any non-specific WWE (World Wide English) RUU.
2) A signed RUU is one that hasn't been modified and will run on any stock phone, the phone will only let you install a non modified RUU by default, I believe. (My definition maybe a little off here)
3) If you have changed nothing on the phone from stock, you can still recieve OTA updates, yes. Installing a custom ROM will stop you being able to use the OTA update feature.
5, lol) And to quote binary visions from AndroidForums
Rooting it doesn't fundamentally change the phone (it only provides the ability to fundamentally change the phone)
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Essentially it's just an app in the app drawer than enables you to have administrative control over your phone. If you never use a program that requires 'root' access as it's known, It'll do nothing. If a program requires 'root' access, it'll just give you the ability to run it. Kinda like a school that locks the Control Panel on Windows from the school kids, stopping them from changing screen resolution and messing about with the PC.

EddyOS said:
RUU = ROM Upgrade Utility
You match it to the version on your phone (2.29.405.5) - simple!!
Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbb7m2b4t5jejhm
Or here:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Keep it safe
Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up
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Eddy, is this ruu rootable ? what hboot does it give you, please ? can it be s-offed with alpharev 1.8 ?

1. Yes
2. HBOOT 0.93
3. Yes

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thanks EddyOS and Kalavere.
I m feeling a bit confidant now.
but......................................
what is the meaning
[Kalavere] "If you have changed nothing on the phone from stock, you can still recieve OTA updates" (no custom rom)
and
[EddyOS] "Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up"
another stupid question - if i install any custom rom will it change IMEI no?
if i install RUU after, will it change IMEI no. (will any device specific number change)?
tanxa lot

IMEI can't be changed as it's hardcoded onto the phone
Once rooted it's not recommended to accept an OTA update, it'll remove root but not be 100% unrooted and cause more issues than it's worth so don't do it

[Q] Newbiee rooting query

Hi,
I have a stock DHD, which has 2.2 via OTA.
I have gone through a lot of forums articles here on xda but am still not sure about the below points:
1) I know that Visionary would not work on my phone unless i downgrade. But I am confused, wouldn't downgrading remove all the fixes and enhancements which came in 2.2.1 over 2.1 android??
2) Is there any other clean and tested way to root my phone apart from Visionary, which does not need me to downgrade?
3) Apart from the Visionary way, is there any existing way to temproot my phone?

You're downgrading firmware to a rootable one, you're not going back to 2.1, basically you're still on froyo 2.2. Basically you can't root without downgrading, there is no other way.
If you're planning on running custom roms then you can just flash roms with 2.3 or 2.2.1
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Yes, downgrading will put you back to software version 1.32, but if you have software version 1.72 or above you will not be able to get root access to your phone.
As soon as you have downgraded, gained permanent root, and optionally gained s-off or eng s-off you will be able to install custom roms of your choice with the newest leaked softare ex Gingerbread.
By my knowledge its no other way to root your DHD, but to follow the very good treads in the developer section.
But the downgrade bit is only a temporary state that you need to do before you install a custom ROM with all the newest features.

But then this means, the there would be no way to keep a backup(nandorid) etc. of my stock/untouched state
If something goes wrong, I would be without a backup of my undisturbed original state.

As far as I know you need temproot to downgrade, but that is in basic shell so you're still not able to make a nandroid backup...

[Q] Wrong CID with wrong software number > unable to update

Hello XDA community,
I have the following problem. I bought an unbranded HTC Desire HD but when the Gingerbread update was released and I did not receive it and got curious what was going on.
Using CID Getter, I found out that the CID of my phone is T-MOB101 whereas it should be HTC_001 on an unbranded phone. The software information on my phone is as follows:
Android: 2.2.1
Software number: 1.72.405.3
Using the search function in this forum, I found out that the T-MOB101 CID only exists with the software number 1.32. As far as I know this means that the phone I bought was a branded phone which was overwritten with another stock rom with the software version 1.72. That means I can wait until kingdom comes regarding the Gingerbread update.
I'd really like to update to Gingerbread and fix my phone in this respect. Having conducted some research, I found out that (1) changing the CID requires to downgrade to 1.32 because I'd need to root the phone and that is not possible with 1.72. If I wanted to back up my phone, e.g. with Titanium Backup, (2) I'd need to root it as well and, thus, downgrade to 1.32. Also, if I wanted to backup my current ROM with ROM Manager, I'd need the required privilidges and root and, therefore before, downgrade the phone.
If I have to go through this trouble, I think, I could install a custom rom as well (e.g. Virtuous Unity as I'd like to have Sense 3.0). I've found out that I always have to downgrade no matter which option I choose because I need to be able to root the phone and, apparently, that's not possible with 1.72. - Is all of the above concluded correctly?
In fact, I'd just like to install a custom rom with sense 3.0 now and be able to flash back to the stock rom, just in case I'd ever need to meet the requirements for warranty, and backup the files I need to backup (except for data which I can synchronize from the Google server, of course).
Does anyone have an optimal procedure of solution at hand? - I'd be very grateful. - Thank you very much in advance.
Cheers,
B-Ball

ok...if you say you're phone is branded you need to create a goldcard first to downgrade and i believe it already exists a thread for downgrading...just do a search

Well, I am not sure if you can still call my phone a "branded" one due to the above facts. I assume it was branded and then an unbranded stock rom with the software version 1.72 was installed but the CID was not changed.
However, do you think there is a way for me to be able to install a custom rom with sense 3.0 and be able to flash back to a strock rom at a later point if I have to downgrade first in order to get root rights?

Yes you will have to downgrade first to be able to get root rights and change the CID.
To get back to stock you have to use a RUU. These are official HTC utilities that wipe out all the changes (just about) that you made to your phone and make it stock. There is a thread somewhere for these. I think in Development.

Ev1dence said:
Well, I am not sure if you can still call my phone a "branded" one due to the above facts. I assume it was branded and then an unbranded stock rom with the software version 1.72 was installed but the CID was not changed.
However, do you think there is a way for me to be able to install a custom rom with sense 3.0 and be able to flash back to a strock rom at a later point if I have to downgrade first in order to get root rights?
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You need the official RUU to go back to stock and if you want to change the CID you still need to root your device