HBoot: .97 s-off to .76 possible? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm currently on .97 HBoot with s-off (unrevoked forever). I would like to go to .76. As I understand, I can use ADB commands via Fastboot with .76. I found myself in a situation where I needed it.
Questions: Can it be done? Is it a matter of flashing the .76 HBoot file?
What am I giving up by going back to .76?
Thanks.

Yeah you can but tread lightly. You easily screw it up. I would leave it bro...

mroneeyedboh said:
Yeah you can but tread lightly. You easily screw it up. I would leave it bro...
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From what I know, flashing is a matter of selecting the .76 HBoot file and allowing the recovery to flash. Is there some way where this can be screwed up?
I raised the original question because I know if is very difficult to downgrade 2.x HBoot back to .97 or .76, but that is a different matter.

it can be done, you just have to follow the instructions to the letter , I used Calk's 0.76 HBOOT, the one that can be flashed via recovery

miguelfp1 said:
it can be done, you just have to follow the instructions to the letter , I used Calk's 0.76 HBOOT, the one that can be flashed via recovery
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Thanks. As far as I know, it's simply booting into recovery and selecting the file to flash--correct? Is there some secret instruction that I am not aware of?
I presume you retained s-off after going back to .76? Any other ill effects?

snovvman said:
Thanks. As far as I know, it's simply booting into recovery and selecting the file to flash--correct? Is there some secret instruction that I am not aware of?
I presume you retained s-off after going back to .76? Any other ill effects?
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Yes its that easy. I've flashed 2.10 (with forever before I flashed) and was able to downgrade to .76 then upgrade back to .97. Look for a thread with a name like "new hboot got you down?"
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Rydah805 said:
Yes its that easy. I've flashed 2.10 (with forever before I flashed) and was able to downgrade to .76 then upgrade back to .97. Look for a thread with a name like "new hboot got you down?"
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Thanks. I thought going from 2.x back to pre-1.0 was difficult and risky?
More importantly, why did you go from .76 to .97? Is there something .97 offers that .76 does not?

Yeah, but you'll get stuck in a bootloader loop. Whether you do it with the zip or push via fastboot. Just re-flash your ROM after.

aph said:
Yeah, but you'll get stuck in a bootloader loop. Whether you do it with the zip or push via fastboot. Just re-flash your ROM after.
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Is it also necessary to re-flash the radio/WiMax/PRI/etc.?

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[Q] How to switch from hboot .76 to .79?? Help!

Okay so when i first made my nandroid i was on hboot .79, but i am currently on .76 (because of cm6). Now i want to restore my nandroid backup from .76 but i cant until i can get back to hboot .79 So any idea how I could do this?
can someone help me?
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edit: n/m just reread it. As long as you ran unrevoked forever you should be able to use the 3.29 RUU, just reflash your recovery afterward.
xHausx said:
edit: n/m just reread it. As long as you ran unrevoked forever you should be able to use the 3.29 RUU, just reflash your recovery afterward.
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Aw..wow is that the only way?? How would i go about doing that? Where can i get the 3.29 RUU? I used unrevoked 3.21 to root..idk if that meets the requirements....
evo4gfan said:
Aw..wow is that the only way?? How would i go about doing that? Where can i get the 3.29 RUU? I used unrevoked 3.21 to root..idk if that meets the requirements....
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The RUU can be found here: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Supersonic
As far as the Unrevoked Forever I think that you should be able to download it from the Unrevoked site and flash it. I dont know if that will still work fur sure.
But yeah, this is the only possible way to do it because RUU is the only thing that changes those things. Essientially unrooting but with forever you will still maintain root.
evo4gfan said:
Aw..wow is that the only way?? How would i go about doing that? Where can i get the 3.29 RUU? I used unrevoked 3.21 to root..idk if that meets the requirements....
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You could make up a PC36IMG.zip that would just flash the hBoot but it's safer running the RUU. Once you restore the nandroid you should be rooted again.
xHausx said:
You could make up a PC36IMG.zip that would just flash the hBoot but it's safer running the RUU. Once you restore the nandroid you should be rooted again.
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How do I make a PC36IMG.zip? Just create a file of that name? and put the hboot image in it?
evo4gfan said:
How do I make a PC36IMG.zip? Just create a file of that name? and put the hboot image in it?
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Not to be an @$$ cuz I really don't know how to do the whole PC36IMG.zip.. But honestly man, some things are worth taking the extra time to do, and this is one of those things. Run the RUU instead of flashing the hboot shortcut.. It's a lot safer then risking your phone being a useless brick.
evo4gfan said:
How do I make a PC36IMG.zip? Just create a file of that name? and put the hboot image in it?
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It has to be packaged properly for it to boot. Yellowcard is right about doing it through the RUU though, the only time I've seen anyone truly brick their evos they did it by flashing a bad hBoot downgrade. Plus the radios tie into the bootloader so it's better to do them all at once.
xHausx said:
It has to be packaged properly for it to boot. Yellowcard is right about doing it through the RUU though, the only time I've seen anyone truly brick their evos they did it by flashing a bad hBoot downgrade. Plus the radios tie into the bootloader so it's better to do them all at once.
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So would I just flash the RUU zip from my recovery?
evo4gfan said:
So would I just flash the RUU zip from my recovery?
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You'll need to do it from fastboot.
evo4gfan said:
So would I just flash the RUU zip from my recovery?
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Nope, the RUU is basically a program in a way more so a script. Hook your phone up and run the RUU... Thats really all there is to it.
is it possible to push .79 hboot via terminal emulator? Or is RUU the only way? What version would I use to do this? I cant really find anything online...

[Q] Does PC36IMG Also Contain A "Stock" Recovery?

This is a simple question that I have:
If I were to want to return to bone stock -- I mean like, fresh out of the cardboard box -- on my EVO, would using Bootloader to flash PC36IMG.zip replace EVERYTHING, including Amon-Ra's recovery image?
Just curious, and unfortunately there seems to be some FUD in some of the threads I've seen about unrooting and such.
Any knowledgeable folk have an answer?
T.I.A.
A "stock" recovery is no recovery. So if you unrooted, ran the ruu, ect, and tried to boot into recovery, you'd be met with the triangle and a ! indicating no recovery.
teh roxxorz said:
A "stock" recovery is no recovery. So if you unrooted, ran the ruu, ect, and tried to boot into recovery, you'd be met with the triangle and a ! indicating no recovery.
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Aha!!!
Follow-up Question: I'm on a Mac and the RUU's I've seen are all in .exe files. Assuming I have the latest radios, do I need an RUU or is PC36IMG sufficient?
TonyArmstrong said:
Aha!!!
Follow-up Question: I'm on a Mac and the RUU's I've seen are all in .exe files. Assuming I have the latest radios, do I need an RUU or is PC36IMG sufficient?
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PC36IMG is sufficient. Same results as RUU. Just be sure to turn your S-on before running the PC36IMG, using the Unrevoked S on tool (that is if you ever used Unrevoked forever at any point in time)
TonyArmstrong said:
Aha!!!
Follow-up Question: I'm on a Mac and the RUU's I've seen are all in .exe files. Assuming I have the latest radios, do I need an RUU or is PC36IMG sufficient?
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I don't know if when you download it, it would change to the correct extension; you could always try changing it. Either way, you're in luck.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19699565/3.70 RUU Zip.zip
A link to my dropbox of a 3.70 RUU in PC36IMG form, just put on your sdcard and flash in the bootloader.
PC3GIMG.zip is just the name of the file that hboot looks for to flash, they are all different! Some PC36IMGs have recoveries, some have radios, some have ROMs, etc... You need to be careful which one you flash, and KNOW for sure whats in it before you do because you run the risk of messing up your phone if you flash the wrong one!
k2buckley said:
PC36IMG is sufficient. Same results as RUU. Just be sure to turn your S-on before running the PC36IMG, using the Unrevoked S on tool (that is if you ever used Unrevoked forever at any point in time)
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Yep, I rooted with unrEVOked, so I'd have to do UnrEVOked S-ON first.
Thank you guys...good stuff here.
TonyArmstrong said:
Yep, I rooted with unrEVOked, so I'd have to do UnrEVOked S-ON first.
Thank you guys...good stuff here.
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Correct, then the PC36IMG and you'll be all set.
So what is the difference between an RUU and a PC36IMG.zip? My hardware 0003 evo has an 2.10 hboot and the baseband of 2.15. 00.11.19
If I want to unroot my phone back to stock out of the box what file do I need? And yes I know to do the s-on first...
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.torrented said:
So what is the difference between an RUU and a PC36IMG.zip? My hardware 0003 evo has an 2.10 hboot and the baseband of 2.15. 00.11.19
If I want to unroot my phone back to stock out of the box what file do I need? And yes I know to do the s-on first...
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The RUU (ROM Update Utility) is IN a PC36IMG.zip.
Turn S-ON back on.
Go into Bootloader.
Allow it to detect.
Update (make sure you have the correct PC36IMG.zip).
not to hi-jack the thread but say HTC/Sprint did upgrade to the EVO 4G to GB could i flash the "stock" recovery without running the ruu and wiping everything? i use stock rom but like the features Root and Amon Ra brings havent found a custom rom that like everything seems to be themed and not my style.
cdw9800 said:
not to hi-jack the thread but say HTC/Sprint did upgrade to the EVO 4G to GB could i flash the "stock" recovery without running the ruu and wiping everything? i use stock rom but like the features Root and Amon Ra brings havent found a custom rom that like everything seems to be themed and not my style.
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Again, "stock" recovery is no recovery. And if you were to upgrade, you'd have to root, and you can keep the rooted stock rom. You can flash CM7 which is basically stock android AOSP, not themed. Can always flash back if you don't like it, and everything is working.
Yeah I know about cm used it on pretty much everything g1 nexus mt4g etc I like some stuff sense have to offer over asop I always end up flashing to see the new stuff I prefer stock android but the usb transfer speed is killing me atm waiting for that to get fixed and I understand stock is recovery guess ima have to titanium backup which works but some issues thanks tho I try stuff nandroid is my bestfriend in android
teh roxxorz said:
Again, "stock" recovery is no recovery. And if you were to upgrade, you'd have to root, and you can keep the rooted stock rom. You can flash CM7 which is basically stock android AOSP, not themed. Can always flash back if you don't like it, and everything is working.
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Unrooting Revolutionary
So I have an EVO that I want to turn to STOCK...
this is some info on it:
Reolutionary
Supersonic EVT3 Ship S-OFF
HBOOT: 6.16
Radio 2.15.00.07.28
Android version 2.2
kernel version 2.6.32.15
build number 3.26.651.6
PRI version 215_003
Hardware version 0004
I have no recovery after doing the S-ON tool several times, but it keeps coming back with the Revolutionary on top and S-OFF.
How can I bring my EVO back to stock fresh out of the box?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
spinsat74 said:
So I have an EVO that I want to turn to STOCK...
this is some info on it:
Reolutionary
Supersonic EVT3 Ship S-OFF
HBOOT: 6.16
Radio 2.15.00.07.28
Android version 2.2
kernel version 2.6.32.15
build number 3.26.651.6
PRI version 215_003
Hardware version 0004
I have no recovery after doing the S-ON tool several times, but it keeps coming back with the Revolutionary on top and S-OFF.
How can I bring my EVO back to stock fresh out of the box?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Did you use unrEVOked to turn S-ON? If so, and please correct me if I'm wrong, to my understanding you can only use that method if you used unrEVOked to root originally. In which case, you may need to use a different method. Perhaps the reason for S-OFF coming back.

{Q} Very Confused. Hboot 2.10 S-on but I'm rooted?

Okay long story short...Replaced my EVO 3 months ago. Used unrevoked to root and have been on Miui for quite some time...
I want to flash the newest radio/wiimax/PRI ect but when I went into Bootloader to flash the PC36img.zip nothing happened. The bootloader finds the img file but nothing else happens. I then noticed that it says S-ON.
I'm confused. I thought in order to be rooted you have to be S-off? If that is the case how can I flash any rom I want? I also have AMON 2.3 recovery flashed as well...
Also, I would like to get to S-off so if I follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045 Will it work? Can I follow this guide with how my phone is now or do I have to unroot first? Thanks in advance.
Starzboy77 said:
Okay long story short...Replaced my EVO 3 months ago. Used unrevoked to root and have been on Miui for quite some time...
I want to flash the newest radio/wiimax/PRI ect but when I went into Bootloader to flash the PC36img.zip nothing happened. The bootloader finds the img file but nothing else happens. I then noticed that it says S-ON.
I'm confused. I thought in order to be rooted you have to be S-off? If that is the case how can I flash any rom I want? I also have AMON 2.3 recovery flashed as well...
Also, I would like to get to S-off so if I follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045 Will it work? Can I follow this guide with how my phone is now or do I have to unroot first? Thanks in advance.
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The original Unrevoked 3.1 came out and could root the EVO before they released Unrevoked Forever. I think all you need to do is go check out the Unrevoked Forever site (http://www.unrevoked.com/forever) and you should be able to S-OFF your rooted EVO so that the bootloader will be able to apply the PC36IMG.zip files.
I thought in order to be rooted you have to be S-off?
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Correct. Possibly you got unrooted by trying to flash the new ota.
tpbklake said:
The original Unrevoked 3.1 came out and could root the EVO before they released Unrevoked Forever. I think all you need to do is go check out the Unrevoked Forever site (http://www.unrevoked.com/forever) and you should be able to S-OFF your rooted EVO so that the bootloader will be able to apply the PC36IMG.zip files.
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Thank you so much! I am now S-off by running the Unrevoked Forever.Zip file. Flashing radios now. Thanks again! I assume that I'll have to flash a Sense ROM to update profile after I flash the radios?
yup.
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I have the same issue. I am fully rooted but s-on. Im guessing it happened when i flashed the latest radio update.
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Correct. Possibly you got unrooted by trying to flash the new ota.
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Wrong. S off is just the security setting. It has no correlation with being rooted. You can be rooted and still be s on like the op.
S off only enables the hboot to flash unsigned/unofficial images to the partitions. S off also allows the system to be written to while android is booted.
The unrevoked forever instructions even state you need to be rooted and have a custom recovery in order to set s off.
lovethyEVO said:
Wrong. S off is just the security setting. It has no correlation with being rooted. You can be rooted and still be s on like the op.
S off only enables the hboot to flash unsigned/unofficial images to the partitions. S off also allows the system to be written to while android is booted.
The unrevoked forever instructions even state you need to be rooted and have a custom recovery in order to set s off.
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Very good post. There is alot of misconception about this. Glad someone cleared it up

Stuck at White HTC Boot Screen, Can't get to Recovery

Hey,
I was trying to load up the new radios and when I did it my phone kept losing connections to 3G and everything so I tried to update hboot to the latest and now I can't get past the HTC EVO 4G White Screen. I can still access Hboot but I can't get to recovery.
I was loading the radios from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
I tried to install the PC36IMG from RA-supersonic 2.3 but its not giving me the instruction to install it. It reads the PC36IMG.zip in Hboot but I don't get an option asking do I want to install it.
I got the file from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Is there a way for me to get to recovery? My phone won't boot past the screen, I assume if I can get back to recovery I can wipe it and use a different ROM. Thanks
junkyardwillie said:
Hey,
I was trying to load up the new radios and when I did it my phone kept losing connections to 3G and everything so I tried to update hboot to the latest and now I can't get past the HTC EVO 4G White Screen. I can still access Hboot but I can't get to recovery.
I was loading the radios from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
I tried to install the PC36IMG from RA-supersonic 2.3 but its not giving me the instruction to install it. It reads the PC36IMG.zip in Hboot but I don't get an option asking do I want to install it.
I got the file from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
Is there a way for me to get to recovery? My phone won't boot past the screen, I assume if I can get back to recovery I can wipe it and use a different ROM. Thanks
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Are you still showing S-OFF? When you flash your hboot you also have to flash a new kernel in order for it to boot, the recovery on the other hand should still work regardless.
Its showing Supersonice EVT2-2 Ship S-ON. Does that mean I lost root?
s-on sorry man you lost root through updating your hboot there are many ways to downgrade your hboot and reroot look here ... in android development thread for htc evo
heres a link hope i helped http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883548
Thats hboot for 2.10 downgrade please tell me what version HBOOT you updated too so that i may provide a proper link if thats not your hboot
atadres said:
s-on sorry man you lost root through updating your hboot there are many ways to downgrade your hboot and reroot look here ... in android development thread for htc evo
heres a link hope i helped http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883548
Thats hboot for 2.10 downgrade please tell me what version HBOOT you updated too so that i may provide a proper link if thats not your hboot
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Thanks for the help, I'm on HBOOT-2.16.0001
So do I need to start back from the beginning. I found this link that is for Rooting with Hboot 2.16, I just want to make sure that I'm doing the right thing. The other link is to downgrade my Hboot but it says I need to be S-Off to do it. My phone can't boot past the White HTC screen right now. Is there a way to unroot through Hboot or something without the phone being loaded? Thanks again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218386
junkyardwillie said:
So do I need to start back from the beginning. I found this link that is for Rooting with Hboot 2.16, I just want to make sure that I'm doing the right thing. The other link is to downgrade my Hboot but it says I need to be S-Off to do it. My phone can't boot past the White HTC screen right now. Is there a way to unroot through Hboot or something without the phone being loaded? Thanks again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218386
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Running the latest RUU should get your phone up and running again. Then just use revolutionary again and you should be S-OFF again. Also be sure to permanently set S-OFF with unrevoked forever before flashing a new hboot.
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Running the latest RUU should get your phone up and running again. Then just use revolutionary again and you should be S-OFF again. Also be sure to permanently set S-OFF with unrevoked forever before flashing a new hboot.
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I tried flashing the deodex version of the stock ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245291.
I downloaded the file and changed the name to PC36IMG.zip. I turned on my phone to Hboot which read the file but I didn't get a message asking if I wanted to install it, the bar went for a little while and then it went to "Checking...[PC36IMG.zip]" but I don't know if it actually flashed anything. When I rebooted my phone it just went back into FastBoot. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong? It still won't let me into Recovery, it just freezes at the HTC EVO 4G screen. I haven't gotten caught in this loop before. Thanks for the help
junkyardwillie said:
I tried flashing the deodex version of the stock ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245291.
I downloaded the file and changed the name to PC36IMG.zip. I turned on my phone to Hboot which read the file but I didn't get a message asking if I wanted to install it, the bar went for a little while and then it went to "Checking...[PC36IMG.zip]" but I don't know if it actually flashed anything. When I rebooted my phone it just went back into FastBoot. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong? It still won't let me into Recovery, it just freezes at the HTC EVO 4G screen. I haven't gotten caught in this loop before. Thanks for the help
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With S-ON you'll only be able to flash PC36IMGs that have been signed by HTC, otherwise it will reject it. This one here should work for you though.
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With S-ON you'll only be able to flash PC36IMGs that have been signed by HTC, otherwise it will reject it. This one here should work for you though.
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I flashed that ROM and I got the phone back booted up. Thanks again, you all are awesome!
I didn't know u can flash unrevoked forever on top of revolutionary...learn something new everyday
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I didn't know u can flash unrevoked forever on top of revolutionary...learn something new everyday
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Ne either. Someone explain how to do that. Please.
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I am having the same exact issue on a HTC Evo View. Is Revolutionary rooted S-OFF HBOOT-6.14.5555. I tried the PC36IMG.zip file in root of sd card as well. It seems to get erased. I dont see a recovery image file for htc evo view in Rom Manager. Any suggestions. Thanks in advance.

Make LCD Incredible S-On

I have an LCD Incredible with radio version 2.15.10.07.07 and I'm trying to return it back to stock so I can sell it to a friend. I have already flashed the stock unrooted ROM (PB31IMG.zip) and it gave me back the stock recovery, I read that I should flash unrevoked-forever-son.zip via CWM but my radio isn't on the supported list and I don't want to brick the device. What should I do?
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Go here and flash the 7.28 Froyo radio http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=18 that should do the trick. This is assuming you flashed the Froyo RUU.
I flashed the Gingerbread image, I didn't use the RUU because I was having problems connecting.
I believe you can still flash the Froyo radio. If not just flash the Froyo Ruu, you can also get the PB31IMG file for it at pvillcomp.com. Then flash the 7.28 radio. If you do this, the phone should receive the OTA gingerbread update.
Thanks, that's what I figured. I just downgraded to Froyo to be on the safe side.
Edit: I just flashed the S-On zip via CWM and was curious if it would replace CWM with the stock recovery, it didn't. So now I have a phone with S-On and CWM, what should I do?
Go here, grab the stock recovery and flash it in Hboot. I'm not sure if you will have to reroot first or not. Give it a shot and let me know.
brando56894 said:
Thanks, that's what I figured. I just downgraded to Froyo to be on the safe side.
Edit: I just flashed the S-On zip via CWM and was curious if it would replace CWM with the stock recovery, it didn't. So now I have a phone with S-On and CWM, what should I do?
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You should be able to run the PB13IMGwhatver zip again and it will give you the Stock Recovery and Stock Rom.
My advice would be to run the newest Gingerbread Stock PBIMG so as to not have to downgrade, then boot, then download OTA, then run that and so on. Simply flash one PBIMG and be over with it
Hope this helps....
Yea, I figured that's probably what I could do. I downloaded the stock recovery and tried to flash it but it wouldn't go. HBoot detected it but never asked me if I wanted to apply it.
brando56894 said:
Yea, I figured that's probably what I could do. I downloaded the stock recovery and tried to flash it but it wouldn't go. HBoot detected it but never asked me if I wanted to apply it.
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Thats because your s-on now. S-off is what enables us to flash radios and custom recoveries like clockwork. You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.
cmlusco said:
Thats because your s-on now. S-off is what enables us to flash radios and custom recoveries like clockwork. You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.
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Not entirely. I've had 2 HTC heros and 3 HTC evos both with s+on straight from start and theyre all rooted with custom roms. I had an evo shift with s-on but it died on me.
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KyoceraEchoHax said:
Not entirely. I've had 2 HTC heros and 3 HTC evos both with s+on straight from start and theyre all rooted with custom roms. I had an evo shift with s-on but it died on me.
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s-off / on is not the same as root. A phone can be rooted and still be s-on. However the only way to flash an unsigned file thru hboot on the incredible is with s-off. As far as i know htc has never officialy released a signed recovery only file. So in order to get the stock recovery while s-on you would have to use a signed ruu. Thats all i was trying to say.
cmlusco said:
s-off / on is not the same as root. A phone can be rooted and still be s-on. However the only way to flash an unsigned file thru hboot on the incredible is with s-off. As far as i know htc has never officialy released a signed recovery only file. So in order to get the stock recovery while s-on you would have to use a signed ruu. Thats all i was trying to say.
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This man speaks the truth!
cmlusco said:
You need to do and ruu, either a PB31IMG.zip thru hboot, or the ruu.exe with a pc. That is the only way to get the stock recovery now that your s-on.
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This is what I tried to flash but it didn't give me any option to update it.

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