Alright. So I have been using the Temp root version of Visionary for a while. I was wondering though, does anyone know if the perm root works on the regular Desire, namely the Telstra Desire?
Just use unrevoked, it definitely works on desire...
Whiterin said:
Alright. So I have been using the Temp root version of Visionary for a while. I was wondering though, does anyone know if the perm root works on the regular Desire, namely the Telstra Desire?
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VISIONary is for the G2 not desire
AndroHero said:
VISIONary is for the G2 not desire
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It works with many devices. The temp root works fine... I just don't want to risk the perm root without knowing if it works or not.
Please it doesn't... as the developer(paul) already stated nandlocked phones will not be supportet for permroot.
mortenmhp said:
Please it doesn't... as the developer(paul) already stated nandlocked phones will not be supportet for permroot.
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So your saying that nobody that owns a G2 in america has rooted their phone because of the nandlocked issue?
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Thanks to Paul O'Brien @ Modaco, we now have permaroot via his VISIONary+ app, which for some reason was removed from the Market. See his changelog and download site below:
http://android.modaco.com/content/t...350/10-nov-r12-test-visionary-one-click-root/
It's so exciting watching this stuff come alive!
allen099 said:
Thanks to Paul O'Brien @ Modaco, we now have permaroot via his VISIONary+ app, which for some reason was removed from the Market. See his changelog and download site below:
http://android.modaco.com/content/t...350/10-nov-r12-test-visionary-one-click-root/
It's so exciting watching this stuff come alive!
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Reading the thread it doesn't appear that permroot works for MT4G, or is it just inconsistent?
my permaroot works just fine i even battery pulled twice today just to test that it really did stick. no problems so far either
aznpr1de808 said:
my permaroot works just fine i even battery pulled twice today just to test that it really did stick. no problems so far either
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Is that using visionary+ or my guide? BTW, What's up from a flying tiger!
It is unfortunate Google is shutting down non-malicious useful tools like this (they also remove a rooter I had used on my N! - easy root). Unless they are being threatened by legal action from HTC or others - they should stay out of the fray.
I did not delete VISIONary for this reason 9in case i had to do a factory reset and re-root). Now, the new version with perm root will make having to do it again much easier.
I hope the below is not really what it looks like (from the download link):
11/10/2010 2:43:25 PM Detected: Exploit.Linux.Lotoor.g Firefox http://pepsi.romraid.com/files/paul/com.modaco.visionaryplus.r12.apk/assets/ratc
Oh well - shut off my antivirus and downloaded file onto the SD card.
Installed it and tested it. I had gone the s=off route yesterday, so I un-rooted it (apps needing root would then not work), re-rooted it, temp and permanent. It rebootedagain, and apps that need root work OK again (it was not set to root on boot-up). App looks pretty good.
Can some more people comment on if r12 is working for MT4G permroot? And do we still have to do the other steps manually to turn S-off?
I was able to get it to work for me. I was temprooted and then applied permaroot. I haven't done S-Off yet, but I don't see a reason to do that yet anyhow.
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Is that using visionary+ or my guide? BTW, What's up from a flying tiger!
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I can confirm.. I uninstalled VISIONary after a temproot and then the permroot attempt and ran quickboot and I actually got su..
VISIONary r12 permroots the Touch.. Yes..
Now @gankin just needs to mod the latest kernel bits for this.. but otherwise.. just like that it works..
allen099 said:
I was able to get it to work for me. I was temprooted and then applied permaroot. I haven't done S-Off yet, but I don't see a reason to do that yet anyhow.
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Do we need to uninstall the Visionary app from the Market before we install the v12?
I seem to be having problems after I temp root my phone I go and press the permaroot button and nothing happens
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Anyone try permaroot with pre ota (2.2 not 2.2.1). I have no success by any means, need the damn ota...
I tried to permroot but failed...temproot worked just fine.
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Ok I was able to permroot mine you must be quick when you click permroot to press allow superuser permision.
I have a few questions not about the other options in the new visionary r12:
To be able to load custom ROMS etc which options do we need in visionary+ I assume we need the rw option, but what is the other option to run visionary.sh after root?
Also do we need to turn S-off? Just trying to get everything ready waiting on the recovery app.
So in the same way that the manual way wouldn't perm root my phone, neither does visionary r12. It just doesn't stick, period.
RealityDesign said:
So in the same way that the manual way wouldn't perm root my phone, neither does visionary r12. It just doesn't stick, period.
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When I did the manual way, I wasn't permrooted when I booted back up, I had to run visionary (the temporary one) one more time and rebooted and then I was permrooted.
itmustbejj said:
When I did the manual way, I wasn't permrooted when I booted back up, I had to run visionary (the temporary one) one more time and rebooted and then I was permrooted.
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So it's the same app but different options (temp root/perm root) correct?
And the manual method is required to get S-OFF so that we can flash a custom recovery, yes?
Just recapping to make sure I understand.
Phateless said:
So it's the same app but different options (temp root/perm root) correct?
And the manual method is required to get S-OFF so that we can flash a custom recovery, yes?
Just recapping to make sure I understand.
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Thats what I'm gathering..
From what I've read, even if we do achieve perm root with the app, we will still need to manually turn s-off to flash a custom recovery (and have it stick).
So my question is, does the permroot option (within visionary) even do anything for us MT4G guys? If we still need to go the manual ABD route to turn s-off, is the permroot option within Visionary just a short cut in the process to achieve s-off?
Everything seemed clear on what I was planning to do till the permaroot option lol
I tried this earlier and it is not a true root, s is still on after doing everything. If you still have to do other steps whats the point of visionary? Lol.
Has anyone actually gotten a true perm root with visionary with s=off? How did you do it?
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Arcadia310 said:
I tried this earlier and it is not a true root, s is still on after doing everything. If you still have to do other steps whats the point of visionary? Lol.
Has anyone actually gotten a true perm root with visionary with s=off? How did you do it?
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To get s=off you have to use the manual method.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
grankin01 said:
To get s=off you have to use the manual method.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
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IMHO, if people have to use tools like Visionary because they don't understand how to do it manually - they shouldn't root their phones. Visionary is a shortcut, not a substitute for knowledge. ADB is a must-have as well. I can't wait to see all cries for help once people start soft-bricking their phones because they cant read directions, don't know how to access ADB or, in general, don't know a singel linux command.
G1 forums were fairly decent until 1-click root was introduced and made it accessible for idiots to mod without having a slightest clue. I have a feeling MT4G forums are heading that way too.
Let the fun begin...
Sup guys just got my G2 and I'm set to perm root it. Just a quick question though,
with all the different guides and the wiki which is the most thorough and safest?
I'm not new to android or rooting. I've owned and rooted a G1, N1, and a MT3GS.
So I don't necessarily need a noob guide. Which method do you say is the best?
Definetly the rage method. Visionary is quite dangerous and a lot of people ended up semi-bricking their phones. Not sure about this gfree a lot of people are talking about is.... just go with rage aka the method in the wiki.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.
Use the Wiki. The Wiki uses the rage exploit for temp root, then gfree to lock in that root (permanent) and to get full radio S-OFF, SuperCID and SIM unlock.
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steviewevie said:
Use the Wiki. The Wiki uses the rage exploit for temp root, then gfree to lock in that root (permanent) and to get full radio S-OFF, SuperCID and SIM unlock.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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+1
The wiki had great instructions and worked like a charm (albeit I'd already let the OTA install so I had to revert that first )
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Use the Wiki. The Wiki uses the rage exploit for temp root, then gfree to lock in that root (permanent) and to get full radio S-OFF, SuperCID and SIM unlock.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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I feel like this is going to be the stupidest question but is the "wiki" you refer to the xda-developerscom/wiki?
Meaning refer to the HTC Vision section, and once inside the "Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD" guide?
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I feel like this is going to be the stupidest question but is the "wiki" you refer to the xda-developerscom/wiki?
Meaning refer to the HTC Vision section, and once inside the "Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD" guide?
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Yep, exactly - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
zkid2010 said:
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The wiki had great instructions and worked like a charm (albeit I'd already let the OTA install so I had to revert that first )
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Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)
pawel_podgorski said:
Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)
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If your worried about Gingerbread its already been ported over to this phone, there are several builds already out, and CM7 Nightly builds have just started up, matter of fact im running Gingerbread right now.
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Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)
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"official" updates from tmobile or any other service provider or the hardware vendor... are DANGEROUS. They may make it difficult/impossible to reroot.
Note that despite htc/tmobile having NOT provider a 2.3 image for vision, you can, nevertheless, use 2.3 on vision. Community is faster than OEM.
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Is that meen -follwing wiki method You won't get Oficial Update (like gingerbread if ever show up)
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No, what he is saying is that you still get the OTA updates. But you will likely need to re-root if you install them.
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No, what he is saying is that you still get the OTA updates. But you will likely need to re-root if you install them.
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I thought that you couldn't even receive the via an OTA. And if you did, the Clockwork Recovery would block them from installing, right?
I have perm rooted many G2's and for some reason i can't seem to get s-off on my wife's new G2. I have done the same process for about 2 hours last night and no luck. any suggestions?
Not to be rude but how is anyone gonna help you when you provided zero details on what happened, what method you used, what the exact error is, etc...
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...you used Visionary, didn't you?
Sent from a Western Union telegram.
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Not to be rude but how is anyone gonna help you when you provided zero details on what happened, what method you used, what the exact error is, etc...
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you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
Crazy4G1 said:
you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
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Use gfree. That will work.
Crazy4G1 said:
you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
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I would advice to use gfree but if you want a quick method of prem rooting/S-Off use unforgivens method. I personally been using unforgivens method and I haven't had any issues. Remember Visionary just helps you gain temporary root access. (Note) Don't ever press the prem root button because you can brick your phone. You need s-off before pressing it.
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Crazy4G1 said:
you're right my bad. i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
that method and used z4root and also visionary when that didn't work. I even tried the unlockr method to no avail. all the commands are done exactly and like i said i've done this on many G2's i just don't know what is so special about this one. Thanks in advanced.
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Just follow the guide in the wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Your new replacement phone probly has an updated firmware that you need to downgrade first. There are plenty of guides to help you with that. For more help here you need to tell us what firmware you got now and what step doest work. Can you get temp root with visionary?
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Hello i want to root my HTC DZ so i can install a costom rom, but i'm not excactly sure if i have to downgrade my phone.
the phones build number is 182.405.1
Can i instal costom roms on my phone and what is the best app to use for rooting my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
have fun!
So i have to downgrade first since i have version 1.82 ?
Also i've read many articles and i came across something called VISIONary+ Can i root with this app or will i just screw up my phone?
well so far Q&A?
johrie91 said:
So i have to downgrade first since i have version 1.82 ?
Also i've read many articles and i came across something called VISIONary+ Can i root with this app or will i just screw up my phone?
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yes, you are required to downgrade as only 1.34 is rootable at the moment.
you'll get 15 different opinions regarding whether or not visionary is safe, but the general consensus is that it is okay to use to obtain temp root, but very risky to try and perma-root with it.
oke i started downgrading but i'm getting an error "Main version is older update failed" what did i do wrong?
EDIT: Nvm what i did wrong was the usb setting it should be Charge only
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so did you get it to work just fine after downgrading ?
Using visionary is harmless. I constantly use it to root and unroot my g2. The method you may have come across could be slightly different than what I read so I would say compare similar facts between the two. I got my rooting info from here: http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/ . Theunlockr has video tutorials posted as well as text tutorial. So using this method should help majorly.
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Using visionary is harmless. I constantly use it to root and unroot my g2. The method you may have come across could be slightly different than what I read so I would say compare similar facts between the two. I got my rooting info from here: http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/ . Theunlockr has video tutorials posted as well as text tutorial. So using this method should help majorly.
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does visionary still temp root htc desire z 1.82.. ? wouldnt work for me when i last tried )=
Hello I own a dinc and just used revoked 3.22 and got a successful root. It didnt delete any of my data and my s is on.....can anyone tell me if my phone is safe....
Does your phone not work or ?
You have Superuser installed and you confirmed it's rooted?
spage624 said:
Hello I own a dinc and just used revoked 3.22 and got a successful root. It didnt delete any of my data and my s is on.....can anyone tell me if my phone is safe....
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If the question is, "if its safe?" Then my answer would be, "Ya, most likely..."
Now if you want a phone with S-Off, follow this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
Yeah everything is fine i just was a little surprised because I have read all of the internet that 2.3.4 wasn't rootable yet
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Yeah everything is fine i just was a little surprised because I have read all of the internet that 2.3.4 wasn't rootable yet
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It is rootable but harder to get s-off. In order to get s-off on 2.3.4 you need to downgrade with a fairly technical process and then use unrevoked.
What does the s-off allow?
spage624 said:
What does the s-off allow?
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http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
spage624 said:
Hello I own a dinc and just used revoked 3.22 and got a successful root. It didnt delete any of my data and my s is on.....can anyone tell me if my phone is safe....
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Can you tell us how you did it? Just like normal root and used revoked 3.22? No errors or anything in revoked?
How did you do it?
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Can you tell us how you did it? Just like normal root and used revoked 3.22? No errors or anything in revoked?
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lolreconlol said:
How did you do it?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400