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[Q] Clockworkmod Recovery system will not install/start

Hi!
i've got a big problem with my HTC Desire Device. I flashed Ginger Villain 0.6 (or so) some days/weeks ago and updated to 0.8 some days ago but forgot to wipe data&cache. Today I tried to start the clockworkmod recoverysystem to restore my nandroid backup from Ginger Villain 0.6 (because of a note stored in "note everything" which wasn't working anymore after the update to Ginger Villain 0.8.
When i try to start the recovery system, i only get a red exclamation picture. I did a factory reset and then ROM Manager was gone and I wasn't able to reinstall it through market. I managed to install ROM Manager trough a manually downloaded .apk file. When I start the ROM Manager and install the Recovery system, everything goes fine but (i choose my device, get the message that ROM Manager where granted root priviliges) but when i try again to start into the recovery system i get the red exclamation mark again. I also tried to run unrevoked3 again, it pushes the recovery system and then it says that it cant get root (firmware too new?) anyway i have root privileges, it seems that error message doesn't matter.
any advice?
thank you

do you have s-off, you could try reflashing the clockworkmod recovery from fastboot
someone else reported clockworkmod just randomly dissapeering and it was the same rom too :/
hope theres not a bug
if you dont have s-off then the only thing i think you can do is reinstall an RUU, Re-root it and then restore the nandroid

Thanks for your reply. Whats s-off? How do i reflash the ruu? With the original exe from htc website?

just realised something, you mention rom manager quite alot
have you tried accessing recovery via hboot?
voldown+power then select recovery via volume rocker and select with power button.
what version of hboot are you on? did you use unrevoked to root the device or an older method?

Yes i tried accessing recovery via hboot, its v 0.80 i think. I rooted my device with an older method than unrevoked, but i dont remember how

I verified my hboot version: 0.80

ahh ok this makes sense now
you used fake flash to get to recovery
your latest rom does not like fake flash boot from rom manager ive seen this before)
so basically you need to do the following
download this file
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5684959/stuff/recovery-clockwork-2.5.0.7-bravo.zip
rename it to update.zip
place it on the root of your sdcard
boot to recovery using voldown + power (then select recovery with vol down and press power)
when you get to the screen with the exclamation hold vol up and press power.
you will be greeted with the blue engineering recovery
select apply update.zip and it should take you to clockwork mod where you can restor/backup what you need
you problem is that rom manager doesnt like the new build and because youve not used the original root method for so long you have forgotten
you can find someone with the same problem here
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/253957-rom-manager-problems.html

any luck!!!!

Hi! That sounds very good but i haven't had time yet to try these steps, i'll report back soon.

Flashing Cyanogenmod problem?

Hey guys, just rooted my phone today, and tried to flash Cyanogenmod 6.1.1 through ROM Manager, after it finish downloading, my phones reboot to a screen with a phone and a ! mark, did I do something wrong or do i just have to wait? Sorry for this noob question.

Zacky32 said:
Hey guys, just rooted my phone today, and tried to flash Cyanogenmod 6.1.1 through ROM Manager, after it finish downloading, my phones reboot to a screen with a phone and a ! mark, did I do something wrong or do i just have to wait? Sorry for this noob question.
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You still have the stock recovery installed. DId you try to install ClockWorkMod Recovery yet? If yes, you did try to install CWM recovery already it means it didn't stick , sometimes you have to do it a couple of times before it sticks (and I'm talking about ClockworkMod recovery). If you have not installed ClockWorkMod recovery yet , first download Rom Manager from the market ( I see you already have it) , then open it , go into menu/settings and select erase recovery, then go back to the main page of rom manager and select FLash ClockworkMod recovery, a sub menu will pop up with your model phone on it, select it, after it is finish select reboot into recovery, if you still see the ! mark it means it didn't stick, pull the battery and reinstall it, then go back into rom manager and flash recovery again, sometime it take a couple of tries before it sticks. Once it sticks and you reboot into recovery and you see CWM recovery 2.5.1.3 screen, then you can go back into rom manager and flash your custom rom or you can do it from the recovery screen as long as you have the custom rom on the root of your sdcard.
Remember you need S-off for it to work, it will not work with temp root.

Mine is not temp root mine is perm root and isit a must to have S-OFF? Cause mine is still S-ON maybe thats the problem?

Zacky32 said:
Mine is not temp root mine is perm root and isit a must to have S-OFF? Cause mine is still S-ON maybe thats the problem?
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Yes, and yes. S-ON would allow you to manually enter Clockwork Recovery by getting to the recovery menu you're currently seeing, and then flashing it using the "install update.zip" method. I wouldn't worry about going through all of that though. Just do the S-OFF, and then Flash Recovery from ROM Manager and you'll be set.

Zacky32 said:
Mine is not temp root mine is perm root and isit a must to have S-OFF? Cause mine is still S-ON maybe thats the problem?
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If you still have S-on you are not perm rooted. You must have S-off to flash a custom rom and a custom recovery.

Alright thanks guys finally did S-OFF and it works. THANKS!!

Ok i got it working but now my touch buttons are not working, help please?

Zacky32 said:
Ok i got it working but now my touch buttons are not working, help please?
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You have to find the proper key patch for your version of the Desire Z and apply it.
Sent from my HTC Vision

How do I find the key patch?
EDIT: Got it working.

[Q] How do i update the radio?

Hello XDA.
I've tried to update my radio in CWM with install .zip thing, but it doesn't really work (i think, not sure how to test it). I've tried a lot of guides and they say "go to hboot menu -> bootloader -> recovery and a red triangle should be on the screen" but i only get the Alpharev Joker? Help please!

Go into recovery
Choose install zip from sd
Choose zip from sd
Confirm
Reboot
You can check your radio version under 'about phone' in the settings.

NamedNothing said:
Hello XDA.
I've tried to update my radio in CWM with install .zip thing, but it doesn't really work (i think, not sure how to test it). I've tried a lot of guides and they say "go to hboot menu -> bootloader -> recovery and a red triangle should be on the screen" but i only get the Alpharev Joker? Help please!
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Are you s-off/have a custom hboot? If yes, make you do not have a hboot which partition size is smaller than 40 mb. Otherwise you cannot lfash radio via recovery, you have to do it via fastboot.

NamedNothing said:
Hello XDA.
I've tried to update my radio in CWM with install .zip thing, but it doesn't really work (i think, not sure how to test it). I've tried a lot of guides and they say "go to hboot menu -> bootloader -> recovery and a red triangle should be on the screen" but i only get the Alpharev Joker? Help please!
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try this
or flash via fastboot with:
'fastboot flash radio radio.img'

NamedNothing said:
Hello XDA.
I've tried to update my radio in CWM with install .zip thing, but it doesn't really work (i think, not sure how to test it). I've tried a lot of guides and they say "go to hboot menu -> bootloader -> recovery and a red triangle should be on the screen" but i only get the Alpharev Joker? Help please!
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You can test by looking in the "about phone" menu and seeing whether your radio ("baseband") version has changed. But as others have said, if you've changed your hboot and shrunk your cache partition you must not try flashing a radio via recovery. But as long as you've not done that you should be OK, though you can use fastboot anyway.
Those guides you are looking at are seriously out of date! Anyone who rooted using unrevoked (i.e. since about August 2010) will have a custom recovery permanently installed, so will not see the red triangle (which is the original HTC recovery). Anyone who still has that should IMO replace it with a proper custom recovery, which being S-Off you can do using fastboot if you need to.
If you have a custom recovery installed you get into it by selecting recovery from the hboot menu, not bootloader.

The easiest way to change the radio through AndroidFlasher
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794638

Problem with Clockworkmod

Hi guys i hope that someone can help me!
I have a problem with ClockworkMod 3.2.0.0 because when I go into recovery from hboot ClockworkMod opens but when I select "install zip from sd card" only the background remains with the hat and I do not select the files in the sd.
Even when I select "power down" the phone is switched on and still remains on the screen with the hat.

How about pressing power button when on the hat icon and then pressing trackpad . Try them and you will know.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

I had not thought!! Thanks very much mate!!

Hello guys!
I have exactly the opposite problem.
I rooted and s-off my phone following these instructions:
baert.ulyssis.be/ 2010/ 10/ 13/ wildpuzzle-rom-for-htc-wildfire/
(sorry for spaces, but the forum doesn't allow me to psot the link otherwise).
Then I installed SuperUser and then ROM Manager, in order to flash a new ROM. Then ROM-Manager "told" that my CWM Recovery 3.0.0.6 was incompatible or something like that and it should automatically download and flash Recovery 2.5.0.7. I allowed it to download the new Recovery and proceeded with installing my ROM (WildPuzzleROM_2.2.1 v0.8) successfully.
Every time I needed to access Recovery 2.5.0.7, I just open ROM-Manager and chose "Reboot into Recovery", and it always rebooted into Recovery 2.5.0.7. But today I tried to access Recovery by rebooting and holding down volume button. And it loaded Recovery 3.0.0.6. I turned off the phone, re-opened it, went to ROM-Manager and chose again "Reboot into Recovery" and it loaded Recovery 2.5.0.7.
So apparently my phone has two versions of Recovery. It loads version 3.0.0.6 when I reboot with the volume button and it loads version 2.5.0.7 through ROM-Manager. And I need ONLY Recovery 2.5.0.7, because the other version crashes (error message: "Amend Scripting is deprecated by Google in Cupcake...etc etc") every time I tried to flash new ROMs and I read somewhere in the forums that this happens because of the 3.x version of Recovery.
So here comes my question: How do I remove Recovery 3.0.0.6 and keep ONLY 2.5.0.7 ?
Thank you all very much, beforehand!

You can do so by using fastboot to manualy flash the old recovery using the command "fastboot flash recovery <path to recovery>recovery.img". If you do not now how to use fastboot, you have to search the forum a bit (can't give you any links as I'm using the xda app).
But for your problem: it is all normal. ROM Manager launches indeed some kind of temporary recovery, which is stored on your sdcard.
But you better rethink about downgrading your recovery: there is a reason why people we are now on v4 of clockworkmod some bugs are fixed (for example, now you can charge your phone when its off - isn't possible with any version of CWM lower then v3) and the menu is better, with more and handy options. The only reason why we keep using the old CWM is because of its ability to flash "old" zipfiles.
So in my opion, it is not worthet to downgrade CWM. You gain much more with the new one, and it is really no effort to flash your "old" zip files with the use of ROM Manager.
Erwin

ErwinP said:
But you better rethink about downgrading your recovery: there is a reason why people we are now on v4 of clockworkmod some bugs are fixed (for example, now you can charge your phone when its off - isn't possible with any version of CWM lower then v3) and the menu is better, with more and handy options. The only reason why we keep using the old CWM is because of its ability to flash "old" zipfiles.
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Obviously you were right on the part that I should actually upgrade my CWM Recovery instead of downgrading it. And the main reason for this, proved to be that my former version had a charging bug. If I charged the phone while switched off, it wouldn't switch on, unless I removed the battery.
Anyway, I followed your advise and flashed Clockwork 4.0.1.4.110720. But the charging problem was still there, so I tried several versions of CWM, till I finally found that for my case Clockworkmod Recovery v3.2.0.0 was the best option.
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Device: HTC Wildfire (Buzz PVT SHIP S-OFF HBOOT 6.01.1022)
ROM: WildPuzzleROM 2.2.1 v0.8
Recovery: Clockworkmod Recovery v3.2.0.0

[Q] [S] Clockworkmod Recovery

I downgraded from 2.3.4 to 2.2, unlocked bootloader, and rooted with unrevoked 3.32 and no matter what I do, Clockworkmod Recovery won't install. I tried with unrevoked, using command prompt, and through rom manager. Its unlocked with s-off.
With unrevoked, I tried installing clockwork 5.0.2.0 and when i start clockwork, i just get the clockwork logo.
using command prompt, I get the FAILED remote access:denied
and rom manager replies with unable to get permissions box.
...Please help

chick3n564 said:
I downgraded from 2.3.4 to 2.2, unlocked bootloader, and rooted with unrevoked 3.32 and no matter what I do, Clockworkmod Recovery won't install. I tried with unrevoked, using command prompt, and through rom manager. Its unlocked with s-off.
With unrevoked, I tried installing clockwork 5.0.2.0 and when i start clockwork, i just get the clockwork logo.
using command prompt, I get the FAILED remote access:denied
and rom manager replies with unable to get permissions box.
...Please help
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Fastboot flash the recovery.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

chick3n564 said:
I downgraded from 2.3.4 to 2.2, unlocked bootloader, and rooted with unrevoked 3.32 and no matter what I do, Clockworkmod Recovery won't install. I tried with unrevoked, using command prompt, and through rom manager. Its unlocked with s-off.
With unrevoked, I tried installing clockwork 5.0.2.0 and when i start clockwork, i just get the clockwork logo.
using command prompt, I get the FAILED remote access:denied
and rom manager replies with unable to get permissions box.
...Please help
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Sounds like you probably aren't rooted but you also should try using unrevoked 3.22 rather than 3.32. Below is a section from a guide I posted for rooting your inc.(that is if you were unable to flash recovery.img) hope it helps
nschiwy said:
Step 2: Flash Clockwork Recovery to your phone
You now need to download a few more files and place them somewhere that will be easy to find.
Unrevoked 3.22 from Mediafire – NOTE: if this link ever becomes broken, you must use version 3.22, 3.32 will NOT work.
Clockwork 5.0.2.0 from PvilleComp.com – make sure you use clockwork 5.0.2.0 with md5: e8ac35ddc1c37000bb0852d1f380b5bb
Next, run unrevoked 3.22, as an administrator if you can. And click file>Custom Recovery… and select the .img file which is inside the Clockwork 5.0.2.0 .zip that you downloaded, you may need to extract the folder first.
Next you can plug in your phone and select charge only and then go to Settings>Applications>development> and enable debugging.
Unrevoked should now recognize your phone and bring up a warning dialogue. Click ok and Unrevoked will run and flash Clockwork 5.0.2.0 to your phone. Do not touch your phone until you see a terminal-like screen on your phone in all blue text on a black background.
you can navigate clockwork using the scroll button at the bottom of your droid incredible to navigate and center-click for “enter”.
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I also had issues using unrevoked and had to do it manually... Good luck

Hi guys,
I'm really new to the HTC Incredible..coming from the Motorola Photon.....finally rooted, downgraded, and installed CWM, but I still get the black screen when selecting options, ie., advanced, backup and restore...tried using ROM Manager and was able to do a back up..I'm a little confused here. Which is the working version of CWM? Thanks so much in advance!
K
EDIT: Sorry failed to mention that I am on CWM version 5.0.2.0
Thanks again!

KTT16 said:
Hi guys,
I'm really new to the HTC Incredible..coming from the Motorola Photon.....finally rooted, downgraded, and installed CWM, but I still get the black screen when selecting options, ie., advanced, backup and restore...tried using ROM Manager and was able to do a back up..I'm a little confused here. Which is the working version of CWM? Thanks so much in advance!
K
EDIT: Sorry failed to mention that I am on CWM version 5.0.2.0
Thanks again!
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Double check that's your version of CWM, which should work. Your symptoms are standard for an older version of CWM on a SLCD screen. To be safe, go into ROM Manager, advanced options, and check erase recovery. Then reflash CWM 5.0.2.0.

Thanks for the suggestion..it didn't work. I flashed older CWMs and AmonRa but I still get the black screen with CWM logo. Thinking of:
- Fastboot erase recovery
- push recovery image
- then reflash CWM through ROM Manager?
Thoughts? Thanks again for the help!
K

Wait, black screen with CWM logo? That means you're in it, but pressed the power button at the main menu. Try pressing the power button once to get out of that when you see the logo.

Yeah..It seems like I can't select the options in the menu though I can toggle through. Its weird...even flashing the other cwm versions does the same thing.
SOLVED: Didn't realize you were supposed to use the trackpad to select..I kept pressing power...(that's how it is done on MoPho). Thanks for your help!
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium

KTT16 said:
Yeah..It seems like I can't select the options in the menu though I can toggle through. Its weird...even flashing the other cwm versions does the same thing.
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
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Hmmm... By selecting the options you wouldn't be pressing the power button, would you? Have you tried pressing the OJ to select instead?

Yeah that little trackpad was the way to select..I was pressing power...so used to that..LOL