Have you read this terrible notice from engadget.com?
Android still has horrible text messaging bugs that'll get you fired, busted, or otherwise embarrassed
By Chris Ziegler posted Dec 31st 2010 1:12PM
Pardon us if the headline is a little sensational, but this is one that we've personally experienced -- and it's not pretty. For at least the last couple versions, Android has been plagued with a couple extremely serious bugs in its text messaging subsystem that can ultimately end up causing you to text the wrong contact -- even contacts that you've never texted before. There appear to be a few failure modes; the one we definitely experience on the Gingerbread-powered Nexus S involves being routed to the wrong thread when you tap it either in the Notifications list or the master thread list in the Messaging application, so if you don't notice, you'll end up firing a message to the wrong person.
More seriously, though, there's also an open issue in Android's bug tracking system -- inexplicably marked "medium" priority -- where sent text messages can appear to be in the correct thread and still end up being sent to another contact altogether. In other words, unless you pull up the Message Details screen after the fact, you might not even know the grievous act you've committed until your boss, significant other, or best friend -- make that former best friend -- texts you back. There seem to have been some attempts on Google's part over the year to fix it; we can't confirm that it still happens in 2.3, but for what it's worth, the issue hasn't been marked resolved in Google Code... and it was opened some six months ago.
This is akin to an alarm clock that occasionally won't go off (we've been there) or a car that randomly won't let you turn the steering wheel -- you simply cannot have a phone that you can't trust to communicate with the right people. It's a deal-breaker. We're pretty shocked that these issues weren't tied up and blasted to all affected phones as an over-the-air patch months ago, but whatever the reason, we'd like to see Google, manufacturers, and carriers drop every other Android update they're working on and make sure this is completely resolved immediately.
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Never had any issue with this...
Maybe, it happens only on the default Google sms app not the HTC one.
I've often sent 2 - 3000 text messeges a month with two diffrent devices over the last 18 months and never had this problem. on the otherhand engadget are known for chatting sensationalist rubbish, only to have to apologise later in an editorial.
Fightspit said:
Maybe, it happens only on the default Google sms app not the HTC one.
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I have experienced this with the HTC messaging one. When I individually texted "Happy new year!!" to everyone, the bug happened twice and it actually sent to someone else.
AndroHero said:
I've often sent 2 - 3000 text messeges a month with two diffrent devices over the last 18 months and never had this problem. on the otherhand engadget are known for chatting sensationalist rubbish, only to have to apologise later in an editorial.
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is not sensationalism, is an actual big ugly bug.
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is not sensationalism, is an actual big ugly bug.
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If it's a bug, then why have I not encountered it since owning this phone for 7 months?
It could be a stock Android problem as already mentioned (HTC Sense ROMs have a different messaging application).
I found a post in the discuss thread where a guy explain how to reproduce this *bug*:
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If anyone is interested, evidently "Darth Mo" has been able to replicate it - found in ACentral Forums - entire post follows;
"It's not user error, or at least it's a combination of user technique and a possible design. It has to do with how the stock messaging app interacts with the Android system notification.
I recreated it this way. Open a text, but only from the notification bar. You will be taken directly to the conversation from that contact. Now, just hit the home button to get back to the home screen. Repeat this four times to let the open conversations build up. We'll call the earliest contact 1, the next 2, etc. for this example. Let's say you converse with these contacts over some time so that messages occur in this chronological order (opened from the notification menu if possible) : 1, you, 2, you, 3, you, 4, you, 1, 3, you, 3.
Now, you've read the message from contact 3, but quickly hit the back button because you need to send a message to contact 4. So you're back at the conversation list and select conversation 4. You compose and send your message and off you go. But, what can actually happen is that your message went to contact 1 because there is a bug that when you use the back button, it will take you to the conversation screen and when you select one, it will take you to the conversation with the last "unreplied" message received before the last conversation you didn't reply to, regardless of the one you actually select from the list. It's easy to miss that it took you to the wrong conversation as the on screen info can take a beat to update and it looks like you've select the right conversation. The kicker is the conversation list does highlight the one you meant to select, but will take you to that other conversation. It's as if it's saying, "Hey, I know you want to go to that one, but you opened this message and jumped out of it without replying. Maybe you didn't see it."
It's pretty easy for people to not have seen this for a few reasons:
1. You open messages directly from the messaging app
2. You close out every conversation using the back button and don't let them build up on top of each other
3. Messages can come in such a sequence that the conditions are never correct
4. It has actually happened, only the last "unreplied" message was from the conversation you actually intended to enter
I was able to create reliably using my Google voice number to send myself text and watched it bounce around conversations seemingly randomly. It was only when I looked at the times of each message with no replies that I saw what it was doing actually had order to it.
About 30 minutes of experimentation to figure it out, but I had to know how this was happening as I could see it leading to an egregious error later. Now to explain it to HTC..."
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i've never had this either - i use handcent
Since a few minutes ago, the issue is considered critical instead of of medium:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9392#c794
Are kiddin me?
I dont send any sms for a while , this is a very big issue !
It never happened to me but , this is a realy really big bug!
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If it's a bug, then why have I not encountered it since owning this phone for 7 months?
It could be a stock Android problem as already mentioned (HTC Sense ROMs have a different messaging application).
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why havent you encountered it? i have no frikking clue and i dont care.
fortunately now it is a critical bug.
btw, i just care about android stock problems, im not using that sense stuff.
I quite often get messages which are meant for other people from someone who has a samsung galaxy (seems that's it's a copy of the message, rather than it being sent to the wrong sender).
I don't text as much, so less prone to the error.
happened to me on stock Android. Never on HTC Sense or mod
I have actually had this bug... but it reported the message had gone to the wrong person, but the correct person replied so I assumed it was reporting it wrong.... only happened twice.
on stock rom unrooted desire
I'm using a stock ROM & native SMS. I get this bug quite a few times.
I'm working in a very loud environment, so I send & receive lots & lots of text messages.
I notice that when i have lots of threaded messages, the SMS starts to slow down & sooner or later the bug will cause me send a text to the wrong recipient.
I'm quite careful of what I'm sending now.
HTC & they told me to reset the phone.
It hasn't been fun for me since I have to reset the phone once a month because my threaded sms buildup very quickly...
I'll update to 2.29.405.5 to see if this fixes anything.
Guys,
Is the 'wrong' person who receives the message someone in your phonebook or a total stranger. If it'd someone you don't know... how does your phone pick that number up? Randomly?
I had my Desire since April, and never had this issue. I open texts from notification bar and have sent them frequently.
I've had a G1, Magic, Milestone and now a Desire and I've never experienced this at all.
I don't think this bug is very common... I've never experienced it myself and none of my android friends have either...
Just some evil forces trying to make the Android OS look bad. Not our fault they couldn't resist taking a bite of that apple so screw them!
Overblown sensationalism AKA typical journalism. It's a bug but seldom a problem encountered by users, or XDA-Dev would've been flooded with such problem threads long before such publicity sites noticed. Just me personally having switched between over a dozen ROMs/kernels and their versions since March with over 60 average text out per day since and not one occurrence means it isn't anything but rare. I rely on SMS very much daily.
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It would seem that there are an awful lot of new threads on the subject, perhaps we could concentrate all the issues that we have with it (no matter which flavour) in one thread, can be this one or another, I don't mind but I think it should be done, would tidy things up a little.
Anyway, reason for starting this one is to try and collate all of the issues that we have with it, you never know, people in the right places may listen, but then again, pigs might fly, but it's the thought that counts! lol.
Generally
I like the update, I like using Sense 2.5 with the new twitter tab and the new programme buttons on the home screen, Facebook seems a little more integrated and I like that fact you have to dig a little deeper to get to WM.
However;
Home Screen
Weather animation is slow and laggy if;
a) You have more than 3 programmes added or;
b) More that one contact added
However, if the clock is minimised and all programme tabs visible, the animations are as good ad the demo and weather tab. Very annoying!!!!
Contacts
I like the new People shortcuts, but the fluidity of scrolling is rubbish, it's very jerky.
Open a contact and then tap edit, way too slow to open up and edit, perhaps 3-4 seconds. In real time, that's not a lot, but it is when using a phone. Then tap save, WTF! this takes even longer and it would appear to be even worse when you link your profile to FB, it's to the point of being painful.
This is just as bad if you tap on Menu and the edit.
Update and Events
Well, installed the 'hotfix' for FB Albums; guess what? It doesn't work, I still cannot seen any pictures in any album. I even wiped the ROM and started completeyl fresh to see if that was causing issues, but nope, still doesn't work.
I'm not overly happy that adding people to my favourites adds notes to each person and addes them to the HTC Favourites Group. We never needed that with Sense 2.1 so why now?
I thought that perhaps the issues I have with the Contacts is because I have over 700. Nope, doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference how many or few you have, still get the same issues.
Messaging
I like the HTC SMS Client, it's starting to grow on me..... just. However,
When replying to a sms in landscape with the keyboard exposed, tap the menu softkey and then try and use the keyboard up and down arrows. Gues what, you cant! Very annoying.
I also cannot see how I can add the little pop up that tells me the sms has been sent. Now I know that most people on here don't like that, but I did, maybe I'm wired.
I also don't like it that the delivery report forms part of the treaded message as opposed to being separate - maybe that's mee being too fussy.
Calendar
I like the calendar it looks cleaner although the one big annoyance is the agenda view. No matter if I tap on the event from the home page or from the sliding menu at the bottom, the agenda view taks a good 5 seconds to load - outrageous! lol.
Twitter tab
Again, I like the twitter tab but, on a few occaisions, without any prior warning, all tweets disappear!?! hhmmmmm
Settings tab
For me, the Sound & Display menu is a little slow at showing but it's not too bad.
Other Issues
SOD - (Standby of Death) Only ever experienced this once and have no idea what caused it.
Radio 4.49.25.91 - Sometimes, when I travel through a bad signal area, the radio with not 'refresh' it's self and run through the signal search loop, it just sits there and sits there with the exclamation mark until I manually turn the radio off and back on again. Never had this issue with 4.49.25.17.
Finally, to ensure that the issues highlighted above were not due to remnants of previous ROM files hanging behind ofter flashing, I ran Task29 on the device to ensure that the ROM storage was clear and cleaned of any rubbish and freshly installed 2.07.401.1.
After all that, I genuinely do like this ROM and I guess these are just annoying niggles but you can only take so much. Am I going to revert back to WM 6.5 with Sense 2.1, only time will tell.
Agree with pretty much all you have said. Specifically
1 important to concentrate all all issues with this ROM in one thread
2 these are some key other threads on XDA that I think are relevant with issues from this ROM, at least can be referred to from here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648510
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631563
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634536
3 SOD is the biggest issue for me. Happens frequently during the day. HTC want me to send the device for repair, but I do not believe this to be a hardware issue. Phone has functioned perfectly since new in May 2009, SOD has only arisen on moving to this March 18th ROM
4 HTC posting data in our Contacts : terrible. This was certainly the cause of lock ups I had when first installing the ROM as that data got more and more corrupted.
5 I cannot get Facebook auto update working. I have about 1,000 contacts, about 50 of them synced to Facebook
6 Twitter does not fully update for me
7 Overall, when it works, I think Sense 2.5 is very good. I haven't had any issues with the SMS client which I think is a very good improvement over 2.1
8 as it stands, phone is unusable. I cannot rely on it for people to contact me as it is often SOD. A phone that people can't ring? That's not progress
9 Facebook albums - doesn't work, have never been able to get this working. Link to patch on HTC Europe website is broken, do HTC know?
Come on HTC, accept that you have an issue, agree to investigate and fix it.
Am in the UK, unlocked, unbranded phone, I use O2.
Calendar
The slowness in the Agenda seems to be negatively influenced by having all-day, and/or recurring appointments.
One thing I noticed is that when editing a single occurrence of an recurring appointment, you can change the time, but not the date of the occurrence (which is possible in the default client).
Messaging
Although I like the messaging app, it takes an awful long time to load one thread. Why didn't they implement this the same way as the default client (limited number of messages shown, with a link to "older messages")?
Other issues
Memory usage is ok after a soft reset (around 50%), but after a day of use it easily reaches 75-80%, even with all programs closed.
ridolfo said:
Calendar
The slowness in the Agenda seems to be negatively influenced by having all-day, and/or recurring appointments.
One thing I noticed is that when editing a single occurrence of an recurring appointment, you can change the time, but not the date of the occurrence (which is possible in the default client).
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I concur with that. That's going to be a bit of a problem for me as I have several re-ocurring appointments.
I have issues with the new rom also.
I have the same issues you have. In addition my speakerphone function doesn't work most of the time. I have to turn it of and back on again and sometimes even redial.
Regards,
Rob
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I have issues with the new rom also.
I have the same issues you have. In addition my speakerphone function doesn't work most of the time. I have to turn it of and back on again and sometimes even redial.
Regards,
Rob
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I've not tried the speakerphone issue yet, will have a go later.
another issue, file activity like installing apps or copying files is unacceptable slow.
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another issue, file activity like installing apps or copying files is unacceptable slow.
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Personally, I haven't noticed any difference with previous ROM's in this respect.
Hmm. Seems after a soft reset file activity is better now.
Wow, editing favorite contacts is really slow. I added a few lines to the notes of one of my favorites, and it took literally 5 minutes to get back to the Home screen.
For me it helped reflashing the ROM; flash the Sense 2.5 ROM and then immediately flash it again. Made it slightly more responsive. Other than that, I have the same issues as you do.
Contacted HTC about it and they told me UPS should pick up the phone since it's a hardware problem... Yeah right.
For me the most annoying part is the speaker phone issue, annoying when ppl can't hear me.
I've contacted support through HTC's website. I've putted in 4 problems and got an awnser on 2.
The speaker problem is a hardware failure according to the support desk. Such a nonsens!
This ROM is broken and they should fix it!
Other issues
Memory usage is ok after a soft reset (around 50%), but after a day of use it easily reaches 75-80%, even with all programs closed.[/QUOTE]
Hy.what about Call History in Home Screen?i don't have CH
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Memory usage is ok after a soft reset (around 50%), but after a day of use it easily reaches 75-80%, even with all programs closed.
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Hy.what about Call History in Home Screen?i don't have CH[/QUOTE]
That's not really an issue; that's how the new Sense is designed. If you want it back, look for C00kie's Home Tab Mod.
what about Call History in Home Screen?i don't have CH
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You don't need Call History, just tap "Phone" and it's there.
The speaker problem is a hardware failure according to the support desk. Such a nonsens!
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They told me that as well, wanted me to ship them the phone by UPS since it was a hardware problem... even though I told them lots of others have that problem with 2.5 and that it was JUST FINE before upgrading.
Found errors and one worth to add, too.
Error - Calendar:
I've tried to insert a birthday reminder in July 20th, and set it up for "ever July 20th" but i wont listet in July, the reason is, its added in april, i think its the current Month, seems to like an variableerror or an programmingerror. Defently worth to fix.
Worth to add - General / Shortlinks:
A shortlink to settingstab/menu, its annoying to have 5 tabs to access the real options + the loading time of the differnt tabs/menus.
Optional - Found something helpful - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285366
Very worth to add - Onlinerules (maybe there is a programm that provides this):
It's annoying when i at home that, in the second i tab on the power button my w-lan and bei umtsmodule begins to initiate simultanly an internet connection, there could be some rule, w-lan before umts or something, the device got A-GPS, maybe set a home zone where the UMTS lets the w-lan the higher priority and get into the internet. But i've always use the shortcut FN+Commandcenter(rightkey) to deactivate the UMTS, because i doenst recognize that the wlan is 5 times faster.
Maybe we could all errors to the first post, for a better overview.
Since the new update, the task-manager-icon(little thing with the arrow), showing running programs and memory usage has disappeared anyone know how to get it back? I've already tried installing the HTC Task Manager 2, but it didn't help
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Since the new update, the task-manager-icon(little thing with the arrow), showing running programs and memory usage has disappeared anyone know how to get it back? I've already tried installing the HTC Task Manager 2, but it didn't help
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Find Duttys Task Manager for Leo, install and it should work, but, it cuoldnt close all apps(opera, AS,etc) so you have to check it with builtin task manager from time to time to really close them.
Edward Lowy said:
Agree with pretty much all you have said. Specifically
1 important to concentrate all all issues with this ROM in one thread
2 these are some key other threads on XDA that I think are relevant with issues from this ROM, at least can be referred to from here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648510
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631563
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634536
3 SOD is the biggest issue for me. Happens frequently during the day. HTC want me to send the device for repair, but I do not believe this to be a hardware issue. Phone has functioned perfectly since new in May 2009, SOD has only arisen on moving to this March 18th ROM
4 HTC posting data in our Contacts : terrible. This was certainly the cause of lock ups I had when first installing the ROM as that data got more and more corrupted.
5 I cannot get Facebook auto update working. I have about 1,000 contacts, about 50 of them synced to Facebook
6 Twitter does not fully update for me
7 Overall, when it works, I think Sense 2.5 is very good. I haven't had any issues with the SMS client which I think is a very good improvement over 2.1
8 as it stands, phone is unusable. I cannot rely on it for people to contact me as it is often SOD. A phone that people can't ring? That's not progress
9 Facebook albums - doesn't work, have never been able to get this working. Link to patch on HTC Europe website is broken, do HTC know?
Come on HTC, accept that you have an issue, agree to investigate and fix it.
Am in the UK, unlocked, unbranded phone, I use O2.
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Completely agree with all in the above post, especially the SOD which is completely random on my device which is only 3 weeks old (bought from clove and shipped with the latest official HTC ROM) I have been naggin my boss to buy me a tp2 for months as my tytn2 was becoming unreliable and now i find the tp2 even worse, even though im a die hard HTC fan i fear i might have to consider sending the device back and getting a blackberry as this is totally unacceptable for a business tool. Have also reported the issue to HTC to which i got a reply of "try a hard reset" which isnt very good when the device was only 4days old at the time.
Tony
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Completely agree with all in the above post, especially the SOD which is completely random on my device which is only 3 weeks old (bought from clove and shipped with the latest official HTC ROM) I have been naggin my boss to buy me a tp2 for months as my tytn2 was becoming unreliable and now i find the tp2 even worse, even though im a die hard HTC fan i fear i might have to consider sending the device back and getting a blackberry as this is totally unacceptable for a business tool. Have also reported the issue to HTC to which i got a reply of "try a hard reset" which isnt very good when the device was only 4days old at the time.
Tony
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That your new phone is SOD'ing is very bad news indeed. Mine is heading back to HTC tomorrow, quite why I don't know as categorically the issues are with the March 18th ROM. Have simply lost the will to live in corresponding with HTC's "technical support".
Technical support, my arse.
Right - let us try and be constructive.
My TP2 which works flawlessly with ROM's up to March 18th
It has only ever had HTC stock ROM's
it was bought unlocked and unbranded from Clove in May 2009. I am on O2
It has a 6 Gb Micro SD card
I have never used HardSPL
I use Commontime mSuite software to link the TP2 with our Lotus Notes installation, syncing Contacts, email and calendar
even without installing any software whatsoever on top of March 18th ROM I have had SOD
Sense 2.5 places unauthorised (by me!) data in the Comments field of your contacts with details of Facebook & favourites Sense entries. This data gets appended to the Comments field in Lotus Notes and renders that field corrupted.
In the 10 months between May 2009 and March 2010, I never had a single SOD incident. Since the March 18th ROM, I would get at least 6 SOD's per day. I do not feel that I am being Sherlock Holmes by suggesting that the SOD issue is linked exclusively to the March 18th ROM.
In sheer frustration and because I actually need to use the TP2, I recently reverted to the previous ROM. No SOD's.
Anyway, all you SOD'ers out there (or is it just me), what is the precise make up of your TP2, can we find anything in common?
UPDATE: I've found a fix for this issue - AWESOME!
Just go to the Android Market and install the SMS Time Fix app by Matt Precious.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-mattprecious-smsfix-pAFq.aspx
It works perfectly, and updates the time stamp on all messages to relfect PHONE time and not network time. HINT: Make sure the "Last Resort" option is checked in the settings and offset is set to zero. This little app now makes the Evo Messages app usable. Finally...
Hope this is helpful info
So, I've been reading and experiencing several issues with SMS timestamps on the Evo 4G.
It seems there are three distinct issues with SMS timestamps on the the Evo and I believe they all have the same root cause.
Issue 1: When roaming texts are received with the wrong time stamp, offset by several hours (typically 4 or 5 hours off). This causes them to not be threaded in the conversation correctly. Very annoying.
Issue 2: When receiving SMS messages on any network (Sprint or Roaming), the time stamp is off by an hour. The result is the same as Issue 1, but a less extreme example.
Issue 3: When texting back and forth in quick succession, SMS messages are not logged in the order in which they are received, and received text messages ALWAYS appear before sent text messages if they are sent during the same minute, regardless of which one was actually sent first. This is also very annoying.
I believe the root cause is that the native Sense UI messaging app is using the timestamp of the tower of each SMS rather than using the time stored on the phone. To prove this, if you use Handcent and set it to use "phone time" and ignore the tower time, it works perfectly. The thing is that I don't want to use Handcent and I want to use the native app. Is there a setting that can be tweaked to fix this? Has anyone talked to HTC or Sprint about the issue and is a fix in the works?
For such a major problem, I am surprised more people haven't come forward. It's a pretty significant bug...
Thanks,
Matt_TX.
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I agree and its getting really annoying since it causes me to miss texts.
NM, too easy
Has anyone talked to Sprint or HTC about it? I am sure there HAS to be a fix in the works. The good news is that the native Froyo messaging app does not do this (as far as I can tell). I used a Nexus One on T-mobile and it doesn't occur. It appears to be using the phone's timestamp, as it should...
As long as HTC don't apply their "logic" (or lack thereof) over Froyo, it should be fixed soon.
I also can't believe that Sense UI stops the user from having more than one Exchange account. Android 2.1 (Eclair) does this by default. Why on earth would they remove it?
Anyway, back on topic... Please please post with your thoughts and discoveries around the SMS timestamp issue.
Thanks!
How is this related to development?
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NM, too easy
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I'm not sure what you mean by "NM, too easy". Can you explain or provide any insight. Please help if you can. For those of us with this issue, it's REALLY annoying. I apologize if the question is dumb and there is an easy fix.
I realize that some of you may not feel that it is related to development, but I disagree. For those geniuses out there that make ROM's, maybe there is some way to fix this with a setting or minor change in the Sense UI messaging app...
Additionally, there is no need to berate someone that's genuinely asking for help. It's obvious that this forum gets the most traffic, and it's obvious that the smartest "Evo User" minds are located here. I don't think there is any harm in reaching out for help, isn't that the purpose behind these forums
The samething was happening to me last night.
Sent From My HTC EVO 4G
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How is this related to development?
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Agreed. If its not happening with Handcent nor the AOSP apk, then its a direct HTC issue.
General Discussion. Also, probably not really that urgent.
./agree on all poins with OP.
I posted in Q&A about this same issues, with no replies 8(.
Anyway, I thought it was related to the modified prl that I installed. However it would do it even when I was on the stock prl.
Long story short, I called sprint and said I was having the issue. They said they were going to refresh something on their side, to wait 20 mins then power cycle the phone.
Did that and to my surprise it worked! Then yesterday I re-flashed a custom rom and the sms timestaps went all wonky. /sigh
suck it up and use handcent or chomp, they are overall better apps, just not as nice of a UI.
this has been a problem for quite some time. I've looked everywhere for a solution. This was a problem on winmo phones as well.
I switched to handcent and never looked back. Once you get it all customized, it's awesome.
davebu said:
suck it up and use handcent or chomp, they are overall better apps, just not as nice of a UI.
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look at this guy.
handcent didn't work on my froyo rom, not sure about chomp, didn't try it.
at work i always have this problem, texts are recieved 5 hours into the future, whereas the ones i send are the correct time. occasionally ones they send are the correct time so i have to scroll up and down and it is very annoying.
not a fan of handcents pop up notifications, i guess i could turn em off.
guess i'll just 'suck it up'
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this has been a problem for quite some time. I've looked everywhere for a solution. This was a problem on winmo phones as well.
I switched to handcent and never looked back. Once you get it all customized, it's awesome.
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yup, had the same problem on my old HTC Diamond with Sense/TF3d on it.
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Is it just me, or is the SMS screen a bit jerky and slow? I do have a 1000+ messages in there, but I can't imagine why it would make the scrolling so poor.
Hes got looooooooads of mates...
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Hes got looooooooads of mates...
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Actually it's almost 3 years worth of messages (transferred it from phone to phone).
Anyone else experiencing similar issues?
I had to factory reset my phone because of this a couple of days back. My contacts went blank and I could barely load the messages.
I can confirm this. Scrolling through sms is laggy and not very responsive. Even in threads with only less than 10 messages. So annoying...
Mines always been like that :-( grown to put up with it
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
doesn't froyo fix this?
If you let your message count get that high, then you're bound to encounter speed loss with the app. Try clearing your messages? Unless you need to know what happened 3 years ago?
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If you let your message count get that high, then you're bound to encounter speed loss with the app.
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Technically no. They should have dealt with performance issues with a high volume of text messages. I work within software development, and something like this would most certainly raise a red flag.
Hey sorry to raise a thread from the dead.
My Messages app now runs extremely slowly - can take 5-10 seconds to load an SMS thread and sometimes lags when i'm typing a reply.
Sounds like other people have experienced similar issues. Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this? It's almost certainly down to having a large number of messages in the thread (over 3,500 from this one contact for reasons i won't go into!) but surely with a modern smartphone it should be able to handle lots of text messages! My iPhone with 2 years worth of messages had no such issues.
One other issue - for no reason whatsoever it somtimes jumps me back up to the very top of the thread of texts meaning i either have to spend ages scrolling down or back up and reload it go get it to show the most recent ones. Anyone else experienced this?
I dont have any issues with lag etc but i second the jump-to-top issue.. its happening once a day for sure and im sooo sick of it! Anyone knows anything?
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So just as an update on my woes - my phone on Friday randomly wiped every single one of my text messages. I reset the phone but nothing came back.
Great.
On the plus side, messages is now running very fast. But seriously, a smartphone that can't handle lots of text messages (which are surely microscopic in file size) is just pathetic.
A person who can't be bothered to store extra messages seperatly is pathetic. There are apps to store/back up messages and if you are constantly referencing 2 year old messages you need help.
Just my opinion though.
I realise your comments aren't targeted at me but perhaps rather than just insulting someone's choices you could actually be helpeful and tell them the names of the apps you talk of.
Not even going to bother addressing the insular comments.
Search "SMS backup" on the market. There are lots and lots of apps. "Backup to gmail" is one I saw that looks good. I personally don't news or use any backup solution for SMS.
Hey everyone, I`ve noticed a terrible flaw in WP7 and maybe I`ve overlooked a way to overcome it.
The problem is that sms conversations that have become really long, create a huge lag in terms of scrolling, typing and pressing the send button. In Android and iPhone, they have that option where you can 'click to view previous messages' but in WP7, it seems to display all the messages no matter what which is probably what creates the huge lag.
Anyway to fix this?
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Hey everyone, I`ve noticed a terrible flaw in WP7 and maybe I`ve overlooked a way to overcome it.
The problem is that sms conversations that have become really long, create a huge lag in terms of scrolling, typing and pressing the send button. In Android and iPhone, they have that option where you can 'click to view previous messages' but in WP7, it seems to display all the messages no matter what which is probably what creates the huge lag.
Anyway to fix this?
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How many messages do you mean by saying "really long"?
The conversation with my girlfriend has a few hundred messages since I bought the Omnia7 but I cannot see any kind of lag.
skycamefalling said:
How many messages do you mean by saying "really long"?
The conversation with my girlfriend has a few hundred messages since I bought the Omnia7 but I cannot see any kind of lag.
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Hmm..I'd say somewhere around 2000 texts? It's really bothering me... I feel like I'm texting on my iphone 3g lol.
Ill probably record a video to show what I'm experiencing in a few days after my exams.
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Hmm..I'd say somewhere around 2000 texts? It's really bothering me... I feel like I'm texting on my iphone 3g lol.
Ill probably record a video to show what I'm experiencing in a few days after my exams.
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ive noticed the same thing! they should do like they did on windows mobile when you scroll up you gotta press a button to load the next few cause theres no point loading every single text cause it can cause majorr lag
I had the same problem too. The only way to fix it is to delete the conversation.
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Strange, i just came on here to see if others had the same problem. It happens here too. A "see more" button would be great.
silvertonesx24 said:
Strange, i just came on here to see if others had the same problem. It happens here too. A "see more" button would be great.
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this is definitely a feature i would like to see!
Wish they add it in next update.
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My wp7 lags on messaging too after 1000 messages so slow
Darn, I was hoping it was just me and that i could fix it.
I really don't want to delete the conversation... guess I'll just have to live with it. I'm surprised they didn't implement the show more button like android/iPhone does it.
You should be deleting conversations that start to creep up into the 1k range.. I remember on android if i reached 1k in a thread; I wasn't able to delete it, it was so large that the os would choke..
So moral of the story, dont keep long threads..
Really??? You need that many texts???
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Hmm..I'd say somewhere around 2000 texts? It's really bothering me... I feel like I'm texting on my iphone 3g lol.
Ill probably record a video to show what I'm experiencing in a few days after my exams.
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Any phone would do that. Blackberries do it, Androids do it, and iPhones do it as well. It's time to set a reasonable threshold for cached texts. It lags for the same reason the XDA Forum list lags a lot of browsers...
Microsoft really needs to add Text Backup to the Devices Site, like MyPhone had...
Dunno why you'd want 2k text cached, though (everyone says in case they need to look up information from an earlier text, lol...).
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You should be deleting conversations that start to creep up into the 1k range.. I remember on android if i reached 1k in a thread; I wasn't able to delete it, it was so large that the os would choke..
So moral of the story, dont keep long threads..
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I have several 1600-2200 message conversations. I haven't delete an sms since december of last year. there is no need in deleting them. fix the problem, move on.
smsbackup is great.
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Dunno why you'd want 2k text cached, though (everyone says in case they need to look up information from an earlier text, lol...).
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This.
Sure, some of those texts may well include important information but, and be honest, would you ever be able to find that one message out of 2000 when you actually needed it?
I'll admit, I don't text much these days as most everyone I used to text now owns a smartphone - I tend to email or IM. If I email all messages are stored in the cloud (Exchange, Hotmail, GMail etc etc) and easily searchable (I do wish WP7's email client would include server-search though) and if I get a piece of very important information thru IM I'll copy it into OneNote - which, again, lives in the cloud and is fully searchable.
Honestly, if there is any vital information within a text you need to "look back upon to read" then you're seriously handling your information in a horrible, horrible manner. I would think most people would use e-mail for this type of thing, or store it better. Once texts in any OS reach a certain point, it takes a disgustingly long amount of time to look back at any level due to he sheer amount of texts... I delete messages once a month.
This is honestly a no win situation for Microsoft... If they put a load more button, then people complain the way they did back in the Sense days where they wanted it loaded entirely. I like the load feature, it allows to uninterrupted view for a reasonable amount of texts...
If you're a psychopath who decides to store 5 billion texts, you can't blame anybody but yourself, and you honestly aren't normal.
Yes me too. I didnt erase my sms since i bought this Mozart and i dont see lag at all up to now.
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Honestly, if there is any vital information within a text you need to "look back upon to read" then you're seriously handling your information in a horrible, horrible manner. I would think most people would use e-mail for this type of thing, or store it better. Once texts in any OS reach a certain point, it takes a disgustingly long amount of time to look back at any level due to he sheer amount of texts... I delete messages once a month.
This is honestly a no win situation for Microsoft... If they put a load more button, then people complain the way they did back in the Sense days where they wanted it loaded entirely. I like the load feature, it allows to uninterrupted view for a reasonable amount of texts...
If you're a psychopath who decides to store 5 billion texts, you can't blame anybody but yourself, and you honestly aren't normal.
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then it should load like 100-200 texts and when you scroll back when you reach the end it should automatically load 100 more before you get to the end
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then it should load like 100-200 texts and when you scroll back when you reach the end it should automatically load 100 more before you get to the end
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I promise somebody would find a problem with this... Like I said, I honestly don't mind because I don't keep thousands of texts, and I send a healthy amount a month... But I don't let them collect for a year like some users...
As far as the lag, I haven't seen it, I'm guessing because I keep it at a reasonable amount...
FiyaFleye said:
Honestly, if there is any vital information within a text you need to "look back upon to read" then you're seriously handling your information in a horrible, horrible manner. I would think most people would use e-mail for this type of thing, or store it better. Once texts in any OS reach a certain point, it takes a disgustingly long amount of time to look back at any level due to he sheer amount of texts... I delete messages once a month.
This is honestly a no win situation for Microsoft... If they put a load more button, then people complain the way they did back in the Sense days where they wanted it loaded entirely. I like the load feature, it allows to uninterrupted view for a reasonable amount of texts...
If you're a psychopath who decides to store 5 billion texts, you can't blame anybody but yourself, and you honestly aren't normal.
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Its not vital to me, but sometimes you want to keep the texts from someone special, or someone who isn't around anymore. I would delete them, but I do not like deleting anything knowing that I'll NEVER get it back if I wanted. With the iPhone, I backed up the SMS database file iTunes backed up and then deleted the texts from the phone. That's all I needed.
Howdy,
Before I upgraded to CyanogenMod 9.0, I would get a Google Voice message notification for a text message. I'd go into the web version of Google Voice, answer the text and then after a bit, the notification would go away on my phone.
Now switched to CM9 and the notification doesn't go away unless I answer the text on my phone or clear it out on the phone.
I've tried GummyNex and CM9 and they both do it.
Has anyone else seen this? I've done the thing where I've uninstalled GV, did the *73, deleted all the Verizon VMs and the reinstalled GV but it still does it.
Don't think its related to your ROM as I'm having the exact same issue on stock 4.0.4 and have always been on stock. Seems to have started a couple weeks ago....
Been pulling my hair out trying to figure out what's going on and was about to start a thread myself asking if anyone else had the issue. Thought I was just crazy at first, but I know for a fact this is not how the app acted before. I've tried changing all kinds of things for my browser use of voice.google.com, deleted/re-installed the app, and nothing works.
I'll be texting using just the browser for a bit and look at my phone and I'll have a notification for "25 Google Voice Messages" or whatever. They never clear. I notice that when opening the GV app to the thread I'm texting in, it hasn't synced in the background, and takes a few seconds for the messages I had sent to show up in the thread. It seems as though Google Voice isn't getting background sync anymore.
Aww man So it was just highly coincidental that it happened around the same time I switched over to a different rom.
It's surprisingly frustrating for such a little thing. I just use it so much that it forces me to check the phone and clear it manually to make sure I don't *actually* have a new message when I'm using both my phone and the web app.
Argh.
Yeah - nothing I've found has fixed the issue.
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Aww man So it was just highly coincidental that it happened around the same time I switched over to a different rom.
It's surprisingly frustrating for such a little thing. I just use it so much that it forces me to check the phone and clear it manually to make sure I don't *actually* have a new message when I'm using both my phone and the web app.
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Yes I think it's actually a coincidence as I said I've been on stock and it all of a sudden stopped working as it was. This is just really weird because there's been no update to the app or anything.
It's extra frustrating because Google Voice is my primary #, so I'm doing about 99.9% of my texting with it, and really enjoy being able to use voice.google.com. Dealing with clearing GV notifications every time I pick my phone up is very lame.
I don't believe I'm experiencing this, gv on GSM nexus, stock 4.0.4 rooted. Straight talk tmo mvno
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I don't currently have this with my yakju 4.0.4 OTA stock ROM, but I have seen it before on this phone and every other phone I've owned across stock & custom ROMs. Fairly confident it's a problem with the app itself
@crachel - are you on cdma or gsm?
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Fairly confident it's a problem with the app itself
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What could it be though? I've done everything short of a factory reset. Nothing about the app itself or the settings I used changed and it started happening out of nowhere.
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@crachel - are you on cdma or gsm?
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GSM
martonikaj said:
What could it be though? I've done everything short of a factory reset. Nothing about the app itself or the settings I used changed and it started happening out of nowhere.
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I don't know.. I agree though that the problem just comes and goes, which is odd. Just a couple weeks ago they weren't clearing for me, but right now it's working fine. I remember thinking that's it's ridiculous this happens on stock firmware
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I don't know.. I agree though that the problem just comes and goes, which is odd. Just a couple weeks ago they weren't clearing for me, but right now it's working fine. I remember thinking that's it's ridiculous this happens on stock firmware
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Even moreso ridiculous if this is a known issue and they haven't addressed it even with these several early 2012 updates to the GV app, which made it a lot better overall in UI and UX. I just don't see how it can come and go with no changes whatsoever to your settings.
Mine definitely does the same thing... I thought it used to clear them for me, but I wasn't sure, and figured I was just thinking of how Google Talk clears the messages.
Not a huge deal to me, but it would definitely be nice if they would fix this. Our best bet is to make a post on the help forums with a bunch of posts in it.
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Mine definitely does the same thing... I thought it used to clear them for me, but I wasn't sure, and figured I was just thinking of how Google Talk clears the messages.
Not a huge deal to me, but it would definitely be nice if they would fix this. Our best bet is to make a post on the help forums with a bunch of posts in it.
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If I get some time I'll put up a bug report on Google Groups/Google Code.
Edit: Nevermind! Someone's on it already from February: https://code.google.com/p/android/i...on&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
I'd appreciate if you're having this issue to star and comment there (as well as here).
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If I get some time I'll put up a bug report on Google Groups/Google Code.
Edit: Nevermind! Someone's on it already from February: https://code.google.com/p/android/i...on&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
I'd appreciate if you're having this issue to star and comment there (as well as here).
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Thanks for the link!
If anyone has a chance, they should make a post in the Google Voice forums here (I'll try to do it later when I have a chance if no-one else gets to it): http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!categories/voice/using-google-voice-on-a-mobile-device. I heard that Google Engineers do monitor / read these sometimes, so if we all post in a thread there is a chance it will get read / fixed.
I really wish there was a better way to get stuff like this fixed.
Bit late to the party. Just wanted to chime in that in my experience I don't think I've ever seen the GV notification clear itself after checking the web interface on my computer.
I've been using android for a year now and have gone through 3 phones and the asus transformer tablet. My current phone is running a CM9 based rom, but still it doesn't clear these notifications.
Man, I'd love it if it did.
Note: I think that if you use the GV widget, you will see that the notification on the widget DOES clear after checking the web interface (or at least it did in GB because I just tested this on my current phone and widget doesn't clear it either). I suppose this means that GV is pushing the "read" status of an sms to our phones. The notification on the notification bar, however, still persists despite this.
EDIT: Given my last test on my current phone, it looks like the widget doesn't clear the notification like it used to on GB. It looks like it is, in fact, a syncing issue.
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Bit late to the party. Just wanted to chime in that in my experience I don't think I've ever seen the GV notification clear itself after checking the web interface on my computer.
I've been using android for a year now and have gone through 3 phones and the asus transformer tablet. My current phone is running a CM9 based rom, but still it doesn't clear these notifications.
Man, I'd love it if it did.
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I can confirm that it actually did used to clear when viewed on another device, and this is the intended action. It should work exactly like an IMAP e-mail account (say, the GMail app). If you view a message on the device or in a web browser, it is cleared as read on the other. Google Voice used to do the same, and stopped doing so randomly. It's completely a backend problem.
Really wish they would fix this. Still happening on JB. Very annoying for those of us who text from the web all day.
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Really wish they would fix this. Still happening on JB. Very annoying for those of us who text from the web all day.
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Still a problem, go over to the google group link posted above and star the issue to (hopefully) increase it's priority and visibility:
https://code.google.com/p/android/i...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=25301